why dont the make tycoon games anymore?

>>383144291
Because that would take time, effort, and talent, none of which are present in current conditions.

Atarii haven't published a good game in years.

"free" to play apps

>>383144291
They're either on mobile, or are mobile-like. """Tycoon""" games are now all those clicker things.

>>383144291
are you talking about tycoon-like games? because those still get made.

if you mean games that ended with the "tycoon" word. they still get made but for mobile now.
theyve become thing waiting games now. you build something and have to wait hours or even days for it to get completed. or speed up the build time by giving them jewgold.

File: 3149223-trailer_planetcoaster_devdiary5_20161027.jpg (189KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

189KB, 1280x720px

>>383144291
You do know Planet coaster is a thing.

>>383144291
>The roller coaster explodes

>>383146832
>$60
>less content than RCT3
>only highly rated because RCTW was a flop

>>383146832
THIS and only THIS.

This game by far and wide outperforms RCT in every regard.

>>383144291
It takes time and money.

>>383144358
>>383146832
3D modern tycoon games are objectively worse than 2D isometric counterparts. They sacrifice content and depth in return for eye candy.

Prove me wrong.

>>383144291
Because no one trademarked the name and it got flooded with crappy budget titles that no one liked (despite the idea being good).

t. someone who remembers what the Wal-Mart electronics section looked like in 2005

>>383147614
When this game first came out my local library received 2 physical copies. I had to queue for close to 100 days in order to play.

Fucking hell.

>>383147483
But the original tycoon games were made by 1 guy.

>>383147225
>>less content than RCT3

>what is steamworkshop

>>383148068
>paying lazy devs full price
Shalom!

>>383148068
>what are 3rd party mod downloads

i knew you were spoonfed as a child but jesus christ it's simply embarrassing when you've reached maturity and are still doing this m8

File: 1240390306786.jpg (14KB, 251x251px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 251x251px

>>383144291
there was this upcoming game, that I can't remember the name for, but its trailer looked super comfy
you could zoom in and out and the graphics changed from full3d to almost pixel graphics look when zoomed out

>>383148503
found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajByBJpSHrY

>>383147225
Its not 60$.
Its like 43$.

And it consonantly adds new content for free.

And the amount t of customization lets you make truly original looking parks.

>>383146832

>i7 & 1080
>25-30fps

'no'

>>383144291
because le capitalist is bad meme

File: fXvw3Q.jpg (2MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 2560x1440px

Aven colony soon.

>>383147383
Except in gameplay. Planet coaster isn't even a game at all, just a theme park sandbox engine.

>>383148745
Runs at 60FPS on my i5 970.

You sure you are not using your built in INTEL GPU by mistake.

>>383144291
Because it's pretty hard to perfect perfection.

>>383146832
No dude, you need to get SQUAD.

>>383144291
Wll there's Parkitect. It's showing promise but it is also still very much in development.

>>383147225
Nice goalpost movement there.

>>383146832
It's not a proper tycoon game
the management aspect is virtually absent

>>383147893
I got my copy in a box of cereal. Same with AoEII.

>>383146832
Granted, the creation part of is really good, but the actual tycoon part is more than lacking.

File: 1499213166186.png (3MB, 4352x2603px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 4352x2603px

>>383144291
I still can't get over that RCT1 and 2 were made in assembly, Chris Sawyer is an absolute madman. They still have a pleasing aesthetic to them to this day.

File: DREAMPORT.jpg (1MB, 5000x2546px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 5000x2546px

All we need is another RCT2 with the sandbox artistic ability of Planet Coaster.

Since Planet Coaster is not an actual game but a park painter, it cannot dethrone the king.

RCT2 can create beautiful buildings, but it is a painstaking process that requires hacking. It's the one area that RCT2 failed in, and was unable to remedy with the very lame expansions that added hundreds of set pieces that essentially are all crap.

Maybe OpenRCT2 can fix this one day, but I doubt it will ever get this far. It helps with some built in tools and ability to switch out scenery, but the building process is still fundamentally a chore, and would take a large, ground-up overhaul.

>>383150074
>All we need is another RCT2 with the sandbox artistic ability of Planet Coaster.
Then develop it.

File: 1495600064915.jpg (5KB, 265x190px) Image search: [Google]

5KB, 265x190px

>>383148720
>early access

>>383150224
Okay just let me quit my job and spend the next 10 years of my life learning code, modeling, artwork, and marketing so that I can spend the subsequent 20 years creating a game by myself.

>>383150330
Well, get on it then.

new sim tower when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWTf5lf2Ag

>>383150652
They already did - Project Highrise

>>383147612
Creating 3D models takes less effort than creating 2D sprites from every single possible angle. Retards like you really need to stop voicing their opinions about game development.

>>383150750
O SHIT!!
and the reviews look great! how did i mis thiss??!

File: yoot.gif (8KB, 160x120px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 160x120px

>>383150652
They did release a direct sequel anon in 1998, it was called Yoot Tower, you can build it in different locations

Pretty comfy

File: Project Highrise.png (842KB, 1827x863px) Image search: [Google]

842KB, 1827x863px

>>383150652
Project Highrise

Seriously people do you google.

File: 1472960663925.gif (22KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 500x500px

>>383150886
>m-muh 3d modeling while recycling someone else's ideas

>>383146832
It sucks
>Management aspect is a joke
>No mods
>Dogshit performance in bigger parks
>Not a lot of content
>Denuvo

>>383149209
Wow, they lifted the Cities: Skylines UI despite the fact that it's a fucking piece of horseshit? Bad development ideas...

>>383144291

I've never played tycoon games before but I did stumble on some videos by a guy who seems to have a boner for them. He loosely compares RollerCoaster Tycoon World and Planet Coaster, with mixed feelings for both. Definitely didn't like Tycoon World though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8vltu1xLnU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XNqJW_8z58

The biggest barrier seems to be how much development time is spent optimising the frame rate and addressing performance issues. It feels like people expect too much graphically while still wanting larger and larger spaces, so all that time is wasted addressing cosmetics instead of ironing out the design elements. Then they have to pack on tons of DLC just to make up the financial loss since they usually release with severe delays.

It's mostly the same problems that affects development for most modern games, except worse since you're pursuing a much more niche market than shooters or F2P mobile games. It's also why I'm much more forgiving when it comes to indie games that look like shit, since they might have some good ideas behind the terrible pixel graphics.

File: 1489689749651.jpg (66KB, 853x480px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 853x480px

>>383150074
>Since Planet Coaster is not an actual game but a park painter, it cannot dethrone the king.
The same thing goes for Cities Skylines (versus SC4).

>>383152881
I'm dying for an isometric SC4 successor.

Real highway mods are too much of a pain in the ass to learn. And once I get one working, it's honestly not satisfying because I spend hours upon hours drudging through outdated tutorial trying to figure it out.

>>383144291
OpenTTD

File: 2017-07-07_10-15-19.png (35KB, 630x79px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 630x79px

>>383152881
nigga

>played cities skylines
>realized it was just a traffic sim game
>went back to sc4 and never looked back

File: 61K8SFMGPQL.jpg (69KB, 427x500px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 427x500px

Zoo Tycoon

>>383150886
And you do realize that sprites are now rendered from 3d assets instead of just drawing them all by hand, right?

Of course you do.

>>383150886
>it takes less effort but isn't as good
>less effort it is
wow I think we all really know who needs to stop voicing their opinions about game development here

File: crying.jpg (182KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 900x900px

>>383144291
>>383153352
>tfw no Zoo Tycoon 3 ever
what's even the point of living

>>383147614
MALL TYCOON
SNOWBOARD PARK TYCOON
MONOPOLY TYCOON
DISTENDED ANUS TYCOON
PREHISTORIC SUPERAMOEBA TYCOON
THE GROSS CRUD THAT BUILDS UP ON YOUR MOUSE AND KEYBOARD TYCOON 3

File: zoo-tycoon-540x334.png (415KB, 540x334px) Image search: [Google]

415KB, 540x334px

>>383153496
hello daddy

>>383146832
It's a good game but it has awful performance and lacks in the management/tycoon aspect, excels at creation and letting you be creative though.

>>383153562
does that even count

>>383149545
fingers crossed but at the same time i'm expecting disappointment. I give it a year before development grinds to a halt and then a year after that it'll 'release' in a clearly unfinished state

>>383153496
>>383153562
any entry beyond the first was hot garbage

can I just have my 2d gazelles please

File: 1495071050894.jpg (55KB, 716x520px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 716x520px

>>383153067
Yeah, that's why I never liked the RHW of SC4 all that much, the videos that the creators made shows that it takes an hour to lay out an intersection. C:S had too many problems that made it really unfun.
> zoning extremely unflexible
> roads free-form but no alignment tool to make them actually parallel
> buildings completely off-scale
> barely any music
> that terrible Twitter mascot
> broken mechanic involving hospitals and cemeteries
> creators basically relied on modders entirely, resulting in a game that is incredibly poorly optimized and buggy

>>383153604
no_

>>383149672
>>383149334
these. i played planet coaster for a few days and already dropped it for rct again. it's not a tycoon game rather a sandbox with less content. also
>denuvo

>>383146832
not even a game

>>383147612
100% true.

File: d4HzjCS.jpg (25KB, 544x386px) Image search: [Google]

25KB, 544x386px

because chris sawyer the literal assembly madman stopped programming them?

I would like to see a proper sequel to Transport Tycoon Deluxe. Keep the isometric graphics, and even the midi tunes are cool for me.

Just make it more deep and not in a OTTD way, because that is just making it more like model trains while the core game is still lacking in challenge.

I think it could be done by a couple of guys wanting to make a game. Originally it was made by Chris Sawyer in Assembly and a other guy helped out with the graphics and maybe the music as well.

How hard it can be?

>>383156510
imagine what the mechanics life must be like

>>383156508

I think a major problem is that most off-the-shelf game engines are going to struggle with rendering areas after a certain size. The "solution" is just to create a custom engine that's optimised specifically for tycoon gameplay, but that's far easier said than done when you consider potential compatibility issues for different PC configurations.

>>383156781
I see your point. These games are huge when it comes to the size of the map you pretty much have to keep in control. Making a custom engine would be the way to go.

They still make it

As mobile garbage