Explain in clear terms how he did anything wrong.

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>>383134443
I must have saw this exact thread with this exact photo over 20 times, why are weebs so fucking autistic?

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>>383134526

>>383134443
Rape and abuse of kids who are supposed to be under his care. Go back to jerking off to HITLER DID NOTHING WRONG, Herr Stormer.

>>383134526
Why are you?

He appeared in a shit video game.

>>383134645
Check your brain, he's not a character from P3.

>>383134634
Yeah, this, and don't forget that he would've expelled students for standing up to him. The guy was pure scum and deserved his fate.

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He should have tried to score with Best girl instead.

>>383135358
imagine the fluffy haired babies they'd have

>>383135140
>The guy was a scum
fixed

>>383134443
He let Jamal fuck his girl.

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>>383134443
He made my gf cry.

It left her emotionally vulnerable which I exploited to make her mine. Thanks Kamoshida!

>>383134526
*seen

>>383134443
Raped a girl caused her to try and kill herself.

Why was Kamoshida arc the best in the game?
He was the one villain I wanted to see fucked up the most

>>383134443
Shiho was meant to be best girl.
Kamoshida is the most atrocious villain in all of Persona.

>most of the other girls in the school would have willingly spread their legs for him without any threats
>had to get stuck on ann which led to his downfall

His fault honestly.

>>383134610

Do you post on /r9k/?

>>383136384
Rape is primarily a power-based deviancy rather than a sexual one.

>>383136347
Because he was an asshole to you personally and you saw him around school during gameplay being an asshole.

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different ways you would bully Makoto
1. Sticking an unloaded revolver in her mouth and squeezing the trigger
2. Invite her to an expensive buffet, eat loads of food and excuse yourself to the bathroom, and leave, making her pay for everything
3. Stealing her headband and when she ask for it back you snap it in half and call it stupid
4. Write her a fake love letter and when she confronts you about it, all embarassed you laugh in her face
5. Blowing your nose on makotos hair
6. Telling Makoto you'll visit her father's grave with her on father's Day then not showing up
7. Telling her she'll never be like her sister
8. Leaking her nude photos on the phansite
9. Raping her
10. Convincing her to come with you to Shinjuku as you got her a role in a mafia movie where she is raped on camera by the Yakuza for a Jav movie

Please feel free to add to this list, thank you.

>>383136384

That's how it works.
He only wanted her because she did not want him.

>>383136494
DELETE THIS

>>383136347

He was the only villain aside from Shido that had a personal connection to you and victimized you as well as terrorizing the first two people you could consider your friends.

>>383136494
Corrupt her into a drug addicted, sexual deviant whore.

>>383136494
Slap her until she turns red

>>383136494
*beep boop*

>>383136494
Why would you bully anyone from the Phantom Thieves? Especially the tactician and brains of the crew.

>>383136820
>Slap her Thicc ass until she turns red
ftfy

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>>383136494

different ways you would bully Makoto
1. Sticking an unloaded revolver in her mouth and squeezing the trigger
2. Invite her to an expensive buffet, eat loads of food and excuse yourself to the bathroom, and leave, making her pay for everything
3. Stealing her headband and when she ask for it back you snap it in half and call it stupid
4. Write her a fake love letter and when she confronts you about it, all embarassed you laugh in her face
5. Blowing your nose on makotos hair
6. Telling Makoto you'll visit her father's grave with her on father's Day then not showing up
7. Telling her she'll never be like her sister
8. Leaking her nude photos on the phansite
9. Raping her
10. Convincing her to come with you to Shinjuku as you got her a role in a mafia movie where she is raped on camera by the Yakuza for a Jav movie
11. Corrupt her into a drug addicted, sexual deviant whore.
12. Slap her until she's red.
13. *Beep Boop*
>>383136890
Because it's really sexy

>>383136890
Because it's fun. The other members won't have the best reaction either.

>>383136494
Convince her to have cyber sex with you, print out multiple copies of the messages and pin them up around school.

>>383137231
She would probably lock herself in the school toilets and cry while ignoring phonecalls from Anne and haru. Cute!!

>>383137550
Then you barge in and take a picture of her crying

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>Makoto is in Shibuya buying books
>Sees joker outside
>'accidentally' bump into him as she leaves the store
>invite him out to get some food
>He doesn't say anything and just nods
>She feels her face burning up
>They goto the expensive sushi place at morganas suggestion
>The whole time they just sit and eat in silence
>She tries to make conversation but joker always end it with a straight yes or no answer if he even responds
>Joker suggests they pay for their meal separately cause it's look like they were dating otherwise
>Makoto feels like she's gonna cry
>He orders some sushi for the trip home for morgana
>Joker realises he left his wallet at home
>Makoto pays for their meal and morganas sushi
>200k yen
>They walk to the train station together
>She stammers about how she had a really good time and how he doesn't have to worry about paying her back
>he yawns
>Doesn't say a single word as he boards his train

god I never thought bullying makoto would be so satisfying to think about until now

>>383138005
Good, fuck that bitch

>>383136996
enjoy your change of heart

>>383139319
worst calling card ever, fuck off ryuji

>>383139367
your shadow is probably in Mementos so you don't need one faggot

>>383134443
physical abuse of his retarded male students and sexual abuse of her female students not only that but extorts the principal by threatening to quit if he doesnt get everything he desires.

>>383138005
I hate her so much but I want to fuck her so bad.

>>383138824
Yes bully her more.

>>383139319
Why tho?

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She fucked the principal, right?

>>383139776
i want to cut that strap with scissors

>>383134443
>physical and mental abuse of the students
>rape
I'm not sure if you're trying to bait or are you genuinely retarded, OP.

>>383139450
>implying
We are on 4chan, there is 75% chance that anon you respond to has Palace.

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>>383139776
Imagine tricking her into falling in love with you, taking her out to a nice dinner, then leaning in, she closes her eyes, anticipating a kiss and you just lean back and spit on that cunts face and when she opens up her eyes you and Morgana are just busting out laughing. She'll just be so confused and sad while the whole restaurant laughs at her.

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>>383136890
The only one of the Phantom Thieves that deserves bullying is Ryuji for announcing us as the Phantom Thieves wherever we go.

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Hey kids,

My name is Kamoshida., and I despise every single one of you. All of you are no life delinquents, teenagers who spend every second of their day trying to become somebody in life. You are a bunch of dumbasses. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any teenage pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun being a teenage delinquent zero because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on jap-facebook.
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. i was a Olympian star volleyball player of japan and got a gold medal for it. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also got a castle for my own pleasures, and have a personal hot teenage cumslut (She just blew me and almost killed herself from the trauma, Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: It's me and my worthless cumslut

>>383140397
Imagine him snapping one day when Makoto or Anne makes fun of him and then punching them in the face and storming off.

>>383136494
Motherfucker

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I'm kind of sad they hadn't added more demons from SMTIV to P5, some of them looked really good and it was a bit boring getting same shit for another game. I'm tempted to buy 3DS just for that game but nintendo games and consoles are incredibly expensive and rare in poland.

I'll probably get some dlc since they are on this japan sale and play ng+.

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What's going on in this threa-

>>383141030
We're abusing Mako-chan. Would you like to join in?

>>383140562
[x] Bad Beat

How would Makoto react if she was just rambling about school work and all the sudden you just slap her across the cheek and tell her to shut the fuck up?

>>383141469
She'd probably get wet/

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>>383134443
Really, the only thing he did wrong was perhaps being a little too soft on the kids. Had he been tougher on them they would have grown spines rather than whined about actually having to train. Remember, this is the man who won the gold medal for his country at the Olympics, we should trust his methods.

Dragging Makoto to mementos!
Inflicting Charm on Makoto!
Having my way with Makoto for hours!
Inflicting Forget on Makoto!
Taking my new cumdump home with no knowledge of the fun we had!
Repeating everyday!

>>383141469
She'd be surprised for a moment and then punch you back.

>>383141568
>>383141469

Honestly she probably would enjoy being beaten up, she starts fights with thugs and gangsters hoping they'd beat the shit out of her.

>>383141783
Wow that's cruel, you should let her remember it. But she wouldn't do that cause I'll slap the piss out of her again

>>383141783
Then she uses Patra on herself

I honestly don't understand why but something about Makoto just makes me wanna abuse and rape her

>>383142228
because she's in a position of authority and you want to destroy that

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>>383134443
He picked the wrong enemy

>>383141981
>Wow that's cruel, you should let her remember it.
It would be more fun to reveal it later. It's a lot more insidious to turn her body into that of a craving slut without her knowledge. It'll hit her so hard when the memories finally come flooding back.

>>383142465
this.

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Who's been writing these stories about me? Futaba?!

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>>383143146
Heh

>>383142814
Miss president is such a slut

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If you could have one of confidants as an extra party member who would you add?

I want Sojiro because he's such a cool guy and having an old guy as would be something new

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>>383143931
Hifumi obviously.

>>383140151
These jokes feel so forced, trying to recapture chocolate milk again.

>>383143931
It actually wouldn't be.See persona 2

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>>383143931
Have Sae take over after Akechi

>>383134443
Never played the game. Did he actually rape someone or is this just a meme?

>>383144176
They legitimately give me a hard on

>>383144491
He molested a girl until she jumped off a roof

>>383144552
Jeez that's rough.

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>>383134443
It's not that he did anything wrong, It was that some kids have psychology warping abilities and he was a victim to them.

His actions werent moral, but he didnt do anything wrong, he was just unfortunate.

I'm only in the 2nd Dungeon and I'm not enjoying this change of heart plot shit, I'm only really playing to see the palaces and hear the music, none of the characters are interesting and the plot of changing hearts isnt interesting me. Does it get better or should I just drop it?

>>383144615
The downside is that it makes most of the rest of the game seem tame by comparison; art plagiarism, scamming and blackmail, mistreating workers, political assassinations etc. all don't hit as hard as a guy sexually harassing schoolgirls and threatening to kick you out of school and put you on the streets

>>383144653
>His actions werent moral, but he didnt do anything wrong
You're retarded, drop the game.

>>383142014
How? She is inflicted with forget, and Joker handles the items once they leave the dungeon.

>>383144801
A shame. Japan is filled with with stuff like that. They could've easily gone even darker and make the story more interesting.

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>>383144653
Eh, I say you should just drop the game.

>>383134526
>I must have saw this exact thread with this exact photo over 20 times
>posts wojack
Is this the irony kids are all raging about these days?

>>383144653
you're a retard edgy faggot if you believe that
>Does it get better or should I just drop it?
lmao the quality dips fucking hard after the 3rd palace
if you think it's bad now? drop it

>>383145043
How would you make it even darker?

He was guilty of hazing and sexual assault.

>>383144847
>>383145140
Well if it werent for the supernatural bullshit he would've gotten away with it. It's not like he was using supernatural shit and got fucked for it. He was just a dick taking advantage of his surroundings to live a comfortable and successful life, even if it meant abusing everyone around him.

Not morally RIGHT, but beneficial to himself.

Then some teens come in with psychological superpowers to warp him into someone hes not and he's MAGICALLY A GOOD PERSON WHO WILL GIVE HIMSELF IN

And now "we're superheroes who change people's hearts, lets go find more corrupt people and change them"

>>383145083
Yeah, I probably should just drop this. I like the style and improvements to the system, but the game feels slow and repetitive and its just not interesting me with it's plot and characters enough to make me keep going.

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>>383134443
He tried to rape my gf after he raped her best friend. I had to stop him.

>>383145043
I guess from a Jap perspective some of that stuff is pretty real to them, like seniors taking advantage of their students, or being overworked nearly or actually to death, but it doesn't come off with nearly the same personal impression that the first part does.

>>383144363
As nice as that would have been, wouldn't it completely throw off a good bit of the story?

>>383145337
>everything post-Okumura
>not a clusterfuck already

>>383136607

What about Madarame and Okumura?

>>383145235
I mean, this is a persona game. Complaining about supernatural bullshit in a game that you should expect having supernatural bullshit is really retarded, if you ask me.

>>383145235
>Then some teens come in with psychological superpowers to warp him into someone hes not and he's MAGICALLY A GOOD PERSON WHO WILL GIVE HIMSELF IN
All they did was make him confess and feel remorse. If you're too much of a brainlet to understand such a simple black-and-white antagonist then this game was never for you.

What he did wrong? He could have gotten free pussy for years and years, lots of female students were willing to part their legs for him.

Instead like a total retard he abused students and got himself fucked over for it, how can you fuck up your life that hard when you are getting pussy for free?

Remember that the phantom thieves only cared because he abused Ryuji and wanted to rape Ann, had he been smarter he could have spent the rest of his career as a teacher giving creampies to the most beautiful girls in the school and no one would give a single fuck.

>>383145235
Well later on they do wonder if they're doing the right thing. They become so self obsessed with the whole idea of being super heroes that they fuck up.

>>383145559
>Remember that the phantom thieves only cared because he abused Ryuji and wanted to rape Ann
Well he also sexually assaulted a student and made her try to kill herself

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>>383136494
11. Disconnect her from the network

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>>383145419
Oh no, I don't mind supernatural bullshit but when theres justifiable reason like Saving the world so everyone including yourself dont fucking die and Saving people from being killed in a TV world cuz some madman is abusing his power to hurt people (even if its unintentional) is a better reason than "becoming warriors of society by changing the minds of people...because.....we can!"

I'm only 2 dungeons in, if theres better reason to this, tell me, otherwise, this plot sounds dull compared to past games.

I mean, these are just people abusing their positions of power and we're kids abusing our psychological superpowers to fuck with them indirectly.

....It just makes the protagonist/antagonist interaction seem cheap and hollow.

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>>383145235

>Then some teens come in with psychological superpowers to warp him into someone hes not and he's MAGICALLY A GOOD PERSON WHO WILL GIVE HIMSELF IN

Sounds like you just hate the entire premise of entire game, drop it

Also the things he did are not only "morally" wrong, they are illegall, main characters are essentially just standard superheroes for stoping him.

>>383134443
He's a rapist who used his power as a teacher to manipulate his student

Someone post that cropped Morgana and Futaba image.

You know the one.

>>383145764
No no, this is exactly what I tell you about.
This is the same shit that happens in previous game. I mean read this your own sentence
>Saving people from being killed in a TV world cuz some madman is abusing his power to hurt people (even if its unintentional) is a better reason than "becoming warriors of society by changing the minds of people...because.....we can!"

It maybe just preference thing, but holy shit man, that sounds fucking retarded. You argument are literally "I like this nonsense better than this nonsense with a bit of reality spice on it".

>>383145839
>just standard superheroes for stoping him.
Superheroes stopping average people of power, yeah.
If he was using mind control and the same psyche-warping shit, thats understandable, but these are kids who instead of dealing with the problems and outsmarting the villain, they just transform their problems into an fun RPG game to indirectly deal with it.

It doesn't feel satisfying or interesting.
Feels like we're not fighting on a level playing field but cheaply suckerpunching people of power cuz we have the superpower to.

>>383145559
He was a sadistic piece of shit. That's why he was overworking the sports teams to the point where Mishima and Shiho have visible injuries due to practice. The castle explains his whole mindset: male students are slaves and female students are sex objects (the volleyball girl statues)

>>383146145
Just like kids who deals problem by defeating shadows using their personas, right?
Oh wait, that's every persona game out there.

>>383145764

I agree to some point, later on you will discover that there is someone else abusing the app to fuck with people in the real world, we could have a battle against those people from the get go, instead we wait until the game is 99% over, dealing first with all the "shitty adults" and then only later dealing with the real problem.

I dont hate persona 5, but what they did was no more or no less than mind control, and when that door is opened only bad things can happen.

>>383146432
>we could have a battle against those people from the get go
Uh, no you don't.

>>383146140
The events of P4 were kind of a chain reaction of being able to throw someone into a TV world, that all kind of spiraled from there.

It made a bit more sense and we were trying to get to the bottom of who the hell was causing people to fall into this world only we have access to.

And it was someone else who had access, abusing their superpower.

It's supernatural garbage, but it was enticing as a story at least, even if it was scoobydoo quest 4. This is essentially fucking with normal(morally wrong) people with superpowers cuz we're gifted with powers, and my characters don't seem interesting from it.

>>383146431
They generally have to face the darker side of themselves and come to terms with it, so in a weird super fast character development, they at least face it.

And usually those strong shadows are going to murder someone or cause some kind of catastrophic destruction.

This is some teens fucking up some guy's hard work because they dont agree with his ideals. Instead of outsmarting him they use their psychological superpowers to materialise his desire and steal it so he turns himself in, without him knowing.

.....Enticing.

>>383145398
So you're idea is to muddy the waters even more?

>>383134526
>saw

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>>383146145
>average people of power
Rapist who abuses students is not a normal person and you keep omitting his wrongdoings.

And again teenagers using superpowers to fix problems of unjust society is main motive of this game. You should just stop playing because that's the whole premise.

>>383146734
>because they dont agree with his ideals.
Yeah, for good fucking reason. All of the villains in this game are so comically evil, I don't understand how anyone could honestly try to defend them.

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at least he didn't touch best waifu

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>>383147010
Only Joker touches best waifu!

>>383146734
That's the problem, you try to justify everything at P4 story to make it interesting for you yet you simply don't care about what happen in P5 and simplify it as something "lol kids solve with supernatural bullshit"

Seems to me you just doesn't have any interest of the game even from the start, and I can't helped you with that. No one can help you with that.

>>383147010
Her uncle would've ravaged her ass

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>>383146848
>Rapist who abuses students is not a normal person and you keep omitting his wrongdoings
Thats irrelevant.
He's immoral, But he wasnt doing anything literally WRONG. He was doing everything just peachy and living a comfortable life. He was only foiled by superpowers. Which he wasnt even aware of. One day he just felt guilty and then he turned himself in.

Sure, he deserved it, but it didnt feel like he actually faced it, we just fucked with his psyche.

>>383146965
Nobody's defending them. I'm saying our characters are dealing with people/situations unfairly with their powers for their own ideals.

Kamoshitda had no way of defending himself and it doesnt feel like this Artistplagarist guy is either.

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>>383147132
Well, please prove me wrong. Tell me theres a proper fucking reason we're fucking up people's days other than "They're morally unjust"

Because in 3 and 4 we were combatting Supernatural shit with our Supernatural shit because Supernatural shit was going down.

Here, we're fucking with people cuz we don't agree with them and it doesnt feel like it's telling a compelling story. It's not going a good job of making me want to know where this is going other than "phantom saviors of society fucking up shitty adults cuz its our duty"

>>383147142
>But he wasnt doing anything literally WRONG.
You're either trolling or missing the point. Either way, there's no point in trying to convince you if you think a literal rapist and abuser did nothing wrong.

>>383147142
It's impossible to have an actual discussion with the fucking /pol/-fanatics here.

>>383147142
>Kamoshitda had no way of defending himself and it doesnt feel like this Artistplagarist guy is either.
No one attacked them in the first place, why would they need to defend themselves?
They want to go to jail by their own accord anyway.

is it wrong that I don't like this guy yet fap to loli? I don't like rapists or 3DPD pedos.

Why didn't Adachi just shoot Yu in the back of the head while he was walking home one day? It's a small rural town no one would have noticed.

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Sojiro raped me...

>>383147135
>At no point during Futabas link did her uncle ever threaten to take custody of her back and fuck her every day if Sojiro didnt pay up
Strange, pretty much every girl had the threat of rape over them at some point

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>>383147402
>in trying to convince you if you think a literal rapist and abuser did nothing wrong.
> /pol/-fanatics
Please, read my post before jumping, I know he's morally unjust and he obviously deserved his punishment, but Tell me, What did he do wrong? What flaws in his plan did he have? He could get away with it all if he wanted, the only thing stopping him was Superpowered kids.

>>383147426
>They want to go to jail by their own accord anyway.
After he got fucked by Supernatural kids, with no way to combat them or even know what they were doing in his head.

He's evil, yes. But he had no flaws in his plans.

>>383145235
>he wasn't right but that doesn't mean he was wrong!

>>383143931
Mishima he was best boy and the Phantom Thieves would be nothing without him

>>383147398
>Tell me theres a proper fucking reason we're fucking up people's days other than "They're morally unjust"
For Kamoshida, saving my own ass to not get expelled.
For Madarame, saving Yusuke.
For third person, saving Makoto.
For fourth person, saving Futaba.

The reason in the first place is never to fuck those people, the reason is always to save the person that got fucked who can do anything.

>>383135358
He already has, over and over

Worst girl cucks are truly pathetic

Futaba best girl

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>>383147435
There is nothing wrong with jerking off to weird shit everyone does sometimes. They are fictinal character and the sole fact that you question your morality is a sign you're probably a good person

>>383147598
>It's a small rural town no one would have noticed
Since it's a small rural town everyone would notice and would probably be able to point out who did it since there's not even a dozen guys who have any acces to firearms.

>>383147398
>>383147791
*can't

>>383147791
>For Madarame, saving Yusuke.
Why does everyone mentally snip out the fact that Madarame murdered Yusuke's mother?

>>383147906
Because he didn't, he neglected to save her, despite being capable and aware of it

>>383147746
>Please, read my post before jumping
Then stop typing like an edgy youtube tween.

How come the only good way to increase charm is at night

>>383145413
You didn't know either of them on a personal level. Okumura in particular was one the group wasn't even sure about at all and only went with it because of pressure between fan demand, Morgana railroading them with his bitch fit, and eventually settled on it just to save Haru in the end.

>>383147791
Aye, and I can understand that, though the threat didn't feel very immediate or very threatening

Theres reason not to get expelled but saving Yusuke was kind of just "Oh, we should do that cuz" but instead of helping him face any of those real world problems, we're warping peoples heads without them fighting back.

And I can understand P4 was sort of the same beast with Yukiko and Kanji but it did legit feel like they were at risk from a supernatural force and you were the only people who could solve it.

>>383147746
That's the entire premise you fucking idiot. Certain individuals use their power and are placed in position free of consequence, while the Phantom Thieves ability to steal hearts gives them a method of stopping these people.

>>383147746
>What did he do wrong? What flaws in his plan did he have?
Well first of all, you're asking two different questions here. What he did 'wrong' should be obvious. The flaws in his plan? He didn't have much of a plan, he just was a psycho who abused students for his own pleasure. He didn't have an endgame, he just believed that because he was leading the volleyball team to great success and was extremely popular among both students and faculty, nobody would dare to question him. That's why his palace is a castle and he is the king. And yes, the only reason he is brought down is because of the metaverse. That's kind of the point: it establishes why the Thieves are the only ones who can take down certain criminals, which motivates them to keep going and move on to bigger targets.

>>383148057
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negligent_homicide

>>383147142
>He's immoral, But he wasnt doing anything literally WRONG.

He attacked someone else for his pleasure and got attacked in turn, thats all there is to it.

His students could not defend themselves from his abuse because of his position as a trusted star athlete teacher, kamoshida in turn could not defend himself from the phantom thieves because they had magical powers, and they were merciful, if it was me I would have killed him.

The same goes for madarame, his pupils could not defend themselves from him, he stole their art and blacklisted them from the artistic community, madarame in turn got fucked over by an enemy he could do nothing to defend himself against.

If anything the phantom thieves gave back to madarame and kamoshida exactly what those two were giving to others, what they did to they students were done to them in turn, it was perfectly justified and fair.

Is this about morals? As victims, ann, ryuji and yosuke had the right to attack and even kill madarame/kamoshida. Is this about power? The phantom thieves were stronger and destroyed them, might makes right.

>>383136494
Please don't bully her. She's a good girl.

>>383134443
He didn't, this mad is a national sports champion and a hero to his country. Shouldn't be brought down by petty crimes.

>>383148183
>Okumura in particular was one the group wasn't even sure about at all and only went with it because of pressure between fan demand, Morgana railroading them with his bitch fit, and eventually settled on it just to save Haru in the end.
Good job, you have basic reading comprehension and grasped why going after Okumura the way they did was portrayed as a bad idea

>>383148437
miss president is dating the criminal! I heard they've even had sex!

>>383148523
*man

>>383148335
That's not what negligent homicide is. If it was his job to look after her it would be, but it wasn't. He had zero legal responsibility to help her, only a moral one.

>>383147435
Na, I'm with you on that one. Loli is cute but people who actually do that outside fiction deserve to hang.

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>>383134443
He provoked a manlet.

>>383148213
>>383148207
>That's the entire premise
A rather shallow premise.
Does it get any more interesting past this?

Why are we allowed to abuse the Metaverse like this to fuck with peoples lives? Why are my characters okay with this?

It really feels like they're doing this just to do it for a "greater moral good" but it's not creating a compelling story and the villains dont feel compelling but some one dimensional force in the plot we're indirectly acting with.

>>383148386
>if it was me I would have killed him.
Ok, kid. I'd TOTALLY want my heroes to murder someone they deem unjust.

If I could change something about this plot, I'd at least have the phantom thieves fucking up with the people in the real world too to show how much influence they have than their psychological mental scape. Stealing Kamoshidas crown doesn't feel like its doing anything, but if the characters were framing him and exposing him, then I'd believe his "change of heart" better than just RPGing his Psyche til we "win against the psyche boss" behind his back.

This just feels indirect and uninvolved a story so far.

>>383148787
Literally the definition.

>>383148916
When will they learn?

>>383148787
She was another one of his pupils, right? I think that qualifies as a legal obligation depending on the circumstances
But this is japan so i dont know shit

>>383147642
We've been over this before, asking if you want a hot cup of joe isn't rape.

>>383148972
>Why are we allowed to abuse the Metaverse like this to fuck with peoples lives?
It's fucking magic, also your talking cat mascot said it was okay

>Why are my characters okay with this?
Because every villain is a DIDDNDU NUFFIN who is untouchable by the law, and are so blatantly evil that even when they give their sob story at the end of their arc, they're still pieces of shit.

>>383148972
>Why are we allowed to abuse the Metaverse like this to fuck with peoples lives? Why are my characters okay with this?
It's pretty fucking obvious if you actually bother to play the game: like I said before, they're the only ones who can bring down most of these people, and of course they eventually start to question if they have the authority to do what they're doing, but they keep doing it because it's ultimately good for society.

>>383148213
You said it yourself, one the things I don't like is the writers pushing this edgy narrative where school teenagers can do anything they want with fictitious powers, they are pushing youth to do stupid shit and not let actual adults handle these kind of situations, they are fucking students, for fucks sake, they need to stop playing heroes realistically.

>>383134443
Well for one thing he was a pedophile

>>383148201
>but instead of helping him face any of those real world problems, we're warping peoples heads without them fighting back.
Well realistically speaking, they can't do much.
Notice that every other confidant, the protag never done anything to their problem and only do so by taking their desires.

That's because they literally can't do anything about it. End game answer this problem anyway.

>>383149557
game is stupid as fuck

>>383149557
I'm not going to say whether or not it's bad writing. That's for you to decide. However, the game makes it clear that the villains either have all the adults turning a blind eye and their victims are too afraid to speak up, like Kamoshida and Okumura, the police are simply too incompetent/undermanned to take them down in a timely manner, or there's not enough concrete evidence to ensure a conviction without a confession.

>>383149390
I just wanted to kill a woman, steal her work and claim it as my own, take in her son so he feels indebted to me, steal his work and claim it as my own, and then cast him out with no money or jobskills necessary to survive on his own once he's reached his creative peak, like I've been doing to scores of other people for the majority of my adult life. Is that so wrong!?

>>383134443
abuse/sexual abuse = morally wrong by modern Western standards

>>383149557
>game about pseudo-super heroes
>they need to stop playing heroes realistically
I keep trying to think of some other bottom of the barrel place to compare these threads to but I'm honestly scratching my head here. Even Worldstar comments sections aren't this vapid.

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>>383149390
>Because every villain is a DIDDNDU NUFFIN who is untouchable by the law, and are so blatantly evil
And you solve these problems like humans, not by abusing psychosuperpowers to shape the way you want.

>It's pretty fucking obvious if you actually bother to play the game
I would but it's padded as fuck and none of my encounters with the plot villains and characters have felt satisfying. Feels like I'm still waiting for something real to happen.

I'm 2 dungeons in and the progress feels like a goddamn slog.

>>383149869
>Is that so wrong!?
Morally wrong and you deserve prison/even death, but if you can get away with it, then nobody can stop you and you've won life--- oh wait, bullshit psychoteam has come to stop you and now you feel guilty.

>>383136494
I would make her use frei on a nuclear reflecting enemy, so it rebounds right back at her and gives her terminal cancer
haha get pranked

>>383149557
>I don't like is the writers pushing this edgy narrative where school teenagers can do anything they want with fictitious powers
School teenager can't do anything hence they use fictitious powers, and even that gonna bite them in the future.
>they are pushing youth to do stupid shit and not let actual adults handle these kind of situations
Now you're just taking it out of your own ass.

>>383150026
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0

>>383150026
Then stop shitting up Persona 5 threads, faggot. It's clear you aren't enjoying the game, probably have no intention of completing it and just want to complain.

>>383150026
>And you solve these problems like humans, not by abusing psychosuperpowers to shape the way you want.
Because that's the point you goddamn retard, you can't do anything. This is japan, things happen like that and you can't do a damn thing.

>>383150026
The entire game is a Chaosfag playthrough. You have the right to mess with the metaverse because you have the power to.
When oppression becomes the law, chaos becomes a duty.

It's like every other chaos/ TDE ending in mainline, but scaled down to make it fit the high school scooby doo setting.

>>383136494
Firing an empty revolver in her mouth would still kill her. Look at that one 1000 ways to die episode shit's cray

>>383150026
Fucking hell you're genuinely deluded

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>>383147642
>This bitch when she kept bringing up that Boss might be abusing Futaba
I already told you cunt, he isn't. Don't you have a new lego set to buy? The fuck outta here.

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>>383150026

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>>383150175
Geez... I just wanted clarity on if the plot evolves past "psychoteam warps shitty adults minds cuz we can" Because I felt like I might be missing out on a lot but it really doesnt sound like theres any ultra superthing causing these strings of "evil adults" akin to Nametame/Adachi and the World ending shit in P3.

>>383147642
bad positioning.

>>383134443
He raped a high schooler, and beat up a bunch of kids, blackmailing them to not tell anyone.

>>383150440
Wat

>>383150431
There is but it's not until the last two palaces that you really start seeing the threads
If you don't like it just don't play it

>>383150431
>I was only pretending to be retarded

>>383150431
I've already told you that it does, but it seems you're ignoring most of my posts because you'd rather whine than actually play.

>>383148972
>Ok, kid. I'd TOTALLY want my heroes to murder someone they deem unjust.

They know for a fact that kamoshida raped ann friend until she tried killing herself, thats reason enough for murder in my country, but I guess in japan if someone rapes one of your friends, you just thank him for the favor.

>>383150391
Sae only gives her money when she gets an A on her exams.

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>>383150296
Eh, I guess that makes sense.

I guess I just don't like how lackluster the actual narrative and interactions of these "change of hearts" are.

>>383150431
It does. You shoot a false god in the head with a demon-lord's gun.

There, now stop playing the game because you were never going to stop bitching about it anyway.

>>383150712

We should add that to the Makoto bully list
>Steal her report card

>>383150431
This is what I'm afraid of. P3 and 4 make things too dumb for them that anything that resembles real life problem make the player became a retard like this anon.

Modern persona is a mistake.

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A blowjob? No! That is disgusting and demeaning to women. Don't ask me again.

>>383150743
>I guess I just don't like how lackluster the actual narrative and interactions of these "change of hearts" are.
hearing that from the guy who think P4 is more intriguing is just fucking retarded.
Why is it that people became dumber every year?

>>383150950
Please?

>>383150950
Shut up, do it.

>>383150950
Since when is having a gun to your head "asking"?

>>383150026
>And you solve these problems like humans, not by abusing psychosuperpowers to shape the way you want.
(Laughs in Japanese culture)

>>383150950
It says right on your collar you dumb cunt

>>383150834
That is pure evil. Not only would she not get her legos but Sae will think she's failing and trying to hide the evidence.

>>383150337
That gun had a blank.
Blanks are blasting primers with no projectile.

They still expel gas from the barrel at high velocity.

>>383150578
.........how many palaces are there?

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>>383150431
When you throw out a series of definitive statements about the plot of a game people are going to assume you have more than sub-basic knowledge of the goings on past the first 20%. At some point you find out everything happening is the result a god playing a game with people to see which desire is strongest: fixing current problems or recreation through destruction. Saying they they "would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids" is completely ignorant since an actual, literal deity fucking around with the natural order led to them being compelled to do it in the first place. In some cases it's even more direct than that.

>>383151261
8

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>Male teacher physically and mentally abuses students
>This is wrong
>Female teacher physically and mentally abuses students
>"lol it's ok cuz dey consented she is hot anyways wh ocares lol"

different ways you would bully Makoto
1. Sticking an unloaded revolver in her mouth and squeezing the trigger
2. Invite her to an expensive buffet, eat loads of food and excuse yourself to the bathroom, and leave, making her pay for everything
3. Stealing her headband and when she ask for it back you snap it in half and call it stupid
4. Write her a fake love letter and when she confronts you about it, all embarassed you laugh in her face
5. Blowing your nose on makotos hair
6. Telling Makoto you'll visit her father's grave with her on father's Day then not showing up
7. Telling her she'll never be like her sister
8. Leaking her nude photos on the phansite
9. Raping her
10. Convincing her to come with you to Shinjuku as you got her a role in a mafia movie where she is raped on camera by the Yakuza for a Jav movie
11. Corrupt her into a drug addicted, sexual deviant whore.
12. Slap her until she's red.
13. *Beep Boop*
14. Convince her to have cyber sex with you, print out multiple copies of the messages and pin them up around school.

>>383151320
......8....huh.


Dare I even ask how long an average playthrough is?

>>383151463
90 or so hours

>>383151463
I finished at something like 85 hours but the average is probably higher

>>383151398
It's not an abuse if the student consented.
This is kindergarden stuff, how could not get this?

>>383151496
>>383151540
Y-Yeah, I don't think I care enough

I'll just listen through the OST and leave it at that.

>>383151735
if you really aren't gonna play it through, look up spoilers on the plot and see if it had answers you wanted at least

>>383136494
I wish you could actually do this in the game.

>>383148335
Maybe. But that's not murder.

>>383147598
>firearms can only really be held by the police
>shooting someone with a firearm in a small town where the only people with guns aren't just the police, but probably the outside police

good idea

>>383148201
You're like that other shitposter, there's nothing you can DO in the real world, there is NO OUT in the real world. If you were so constrained by the real world that your life was going to be fucking OVER, but you had the power to stop it by changing someone so they aren't such a fucking asshole you wouldn't do it either? They're the only people who can stop them, in your own words, this time though the nightmare is scarier because its not supernatural, they're just real people being terrible.

>>383151890
Bad idea, he doesn't interest by the premise in the slightest. Reading up spoiler just gave him more things to ignorantly shitpost about.

>>383151398
>being such a mental invalid that you honestly can't tell the difference between the two in the context of this game

>>383152172
Not to mention that Yu generally only sticks to populated areas like the shopping district and usually has friends with him, so Adachi would have to stalk him for several days and kill him while he's fishing at night or something. Even then, Dojima would be wondering what he's been doing and put two and two together.

>>383151398
when did a female teacher physically and mentally abuse any fucking student?

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>>383151145
>it actually does

Uh-oh. Makoto is pregnant!
what would you do?
1. Take responsibility
2. Bleach your hair, delete social media and ditch town forcing her to be a single mom
3. Promise her you'll marry her if she gets an abortion, and then never speak to her again

>>383150950
Why does Makoto act so hard?

>>383152939
Number 1, do not bully robo chan

>>383152971
She secretly wants to be put in her place and be beaten and raped by criminals. That is the reason why she always starts fights with dangerous men in the story and her confidant.
>>383152939
3. Except i keep her as a sex toy

>>383152681
Meido slut. Joker is a minor, he cannot consent to what they did

Taking Makoto on a date!
Falling in love with Makoto!
Disciplining Makoto when she misbehaves!
Getting Makoto hooked on drugs!
Making Makoto financially and emotionally reliant on you!
Pimping Makoto!
Buying a house with Makoto!
Visiting Makoto at work!
Loving Makoto!

>>383152143
>Negligent homicide is a lesser included offense to first and second degree murder
Some would say that it is. A judge, for instance.

>>383153319
If anything joker was manipulating her into a relationship by knowing she secretly works as a maid

>>383152939
Take responsibility.

>>383136494
Isn't cutting off limbs bullying?

>>383134443
Depends. If you're a Muslim or Arab what he did is all legal.

>>383153574
>It was the kids fault, they tricked me into raping them!

>>383153653
Depends how and what you're cutting off

>>383134443
He got caught

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R-rape..? Me? Why is everyone saying these lewd things about me.

>>383150026
By you're logic, the phantom thieves did nothing wrong either, nobody could stop them from doing what they wanted and achieving their goals

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>>383151540
I clocked 95 hours but I was taking it slow and played with JPN audio.

I really like Hifumi but MC is Jesus so I didn't date anyone.

>>383145136
kek
He's not wrong though

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>>383153770
Saw? Dunno.

>>383154140
I too, want to turn Makoto into a paraplegic sex toy.

>>383154220
Sex? What the fuck? Are you a pervert or something?

Jesus. I was just talking about bullying a girl, not rape her or whatever your dirty mind is imagining.

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>>383151398
Uhm I don't know were you people live but sexual relations with a pupil is grounds for immediate termination and blacklisting here. Consent or not.

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>>383134443
Tried to coerce Ann into unwanted sexual relations and then raped her friend when she refused.

Is there any other place in the internet in which people defend Kamoshida?

>>383154705
/v/

>>383134443
He didn't join us plain simple

>>383154339
It's still bullying if you don't cum, it's basically a wet willy.

>>383153471
Enjoy your change of heart.

>>383153910
Oh wow, it's the real Makoto Niijima! Did you know Atlus made a video game about your exploits as a Phantom Thief?

>>383155153
Why would they do that I love my makoto

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>>383155212
I don't know anything about that I just really love cock! :3

>>383136494
Number one if by revolver you mean my dick.

>>383155534
So you can't cum at all?

>>383155628
Yeah, I have problems anon.

>>383134443
he's a chad

Kamoshida's thing was control. Like others pointed out yes he could have easily gotten pussy and a lot of the female students were into him before the whole abuse thing got out. But he saw the school as his castle and basically wanted everyone to worship him, which is why he gave anyone that challenged him even slightly a hard time. That's why he was ready to ruin Joker's life like five minutes after meeting him.

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>>383155517
Futaba, please stop using Makoto as an avatar and be honest about your desire to find a hot guy and skip straight to the H-scenes.

>>383156223
I bet she's into a lot of kinky things.

>>383156892
I bet she would sign up to positive dating and set makoto up with a blind date

>>383153928
World of STR only applies when it's in my favor.

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This is a face I want to piss on

>>383156058
I appreciate the thought that you put into this but this is the thread for role-playing and only-watched-part-of-an-LP level discussion. I, for example, was trying to have an actual discussion with someone who didn't even know who the last boss was or how they influenced the story. All that time, wasted on nothing.

>>383134443
He rape a female student and abuse some others. He also tried to expell you. It's why he's the only good villain in the entire game. P5 was a mistake

>>383134526
FPBP

>>383158890
A murderous thief, a crime lord, and a petty deity aren't as high on your list as a school bully?

>>383136494
>>383136996
>>383137958
>>383139776
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>>383147642
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>>383158405
Imagine being this butthurt over a character

>>383134526
/thread

>>383136494
>>383136996
>>383137231
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>>383137958
>>383138005
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>>383139367
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>>383138824
Wow
>>383139776
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>>383143146
Ok is this 9gag or just summer
>>383144653
Akechi is the traitor

>>383160516
>Ok is this 9gag or just summer
No just the average P5 thread for you

>>383159505
why boner

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There should be a limit to how many responses you can have in your post

>>383150431
I like P4 story better than P5 too, but Christ man you're going really overboard in your "evidence" of its "objective" superiority

>>383136494
BEEP
O
O
P

>>383161113
Oh no

>>383134443
>If i had his authority and charisma, which I clearly fucking don't, I would sexually abuse and assault minors as well.

ftfy.

>>383145839
Why isn't he calling her Sadayo?

>>383161625
She's like 20 years older than him. calling her by her first name is weird even if they're dating.

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Jesus Fucking Christ, what is this thread?

>>383134443
Rape


There, Done

>>383161916
Fuck makoto

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>>383163059
I wish

>>383163192
God I wish that were me

>>383163354
>you will never be Johanna
>Makoto will never ride you daily
Feels bad man

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I want to defile Futaba's body!

>>383159326
No, they're all terrible.

>>383164327
We know, sojiro

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>>383167086
I'm not Sojiro! And I want to give Futaba a semen enema!

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>>383167283
You'd better make her an honest woman or I'm showing up at your house with a shotgun.

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>>383145994

POWER UP!

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>>383169189
I'll make her honest for my cock!

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>>383164327
Only after marriage!
And sweet love, not defiling!

>>383169332
>383169332
lmaoooo delete this

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>>383169332
Out of all the female party members, who would be the most likely to decide a cat is fine too?

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>>383169654
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