>/v/ SUDDENLY hates monster hunter now What went wrong?

I don't hate MH, I'm just concerned about MHW.

MHXX localization when?

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Nintentoddles, jealous that their game is on a platform that can bring MH to it's fullest potential.

Massive backlash from Nintenbros because Capcom actually decided to progress the franchise for once, and being Nintenbros they aren't used to that.

>>383132385
Life

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>>383132483

You mean PC right?

Do nintendo fans exist that don't have a PC?

I don't, I'm happy I don't have to stare at the tiny ass screen of a 3DS anymore

>>383132671
Yes

>>383132671
>Do nintendo fans exist that don't have a PC?
Are you a moron or what? Majority of Japan doesn't own a PC, of course there are fuckloads of Nintendo fans that don't have a PC

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>>383132671
>PC
NEVER EVER

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>>383132385
You have one guess.

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It's literally just Nintendies crying because MHW won't be on their new rebranded Leapfrog tablet

>LOLOL IT'S NOT -REAL- MONHUN, ENJOY YOUR SPINOFF SONY FAGS, WE'RE GETTING THE -REAL- MH5 SWITCH EXCLUSIVE HAHAHAHA EAT SHIT
#MHXXforthewestplscapcomwebegyouplsplspls

Pic related, it's the face behind every MHW IS SHIT post

>>383132563
>progression
>casualization
pick one

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>>383132385
Picture related.

>>383132889
C O M F Y

>>383132385
It's separate groups.
>Group A spends years buying the games showing that there's interest in the west. Now there's enough interest for a more ambitious project. Cool. HOWEVER, Group A has now been given the shaft and been told they aren't even getting the new game. Not only that, but they aren't even getting a port of an older game.

>Group B hasn't even had a MH game in years and they shit on Group A out of frustration. Now Group B is being rewarded with a new game, even though they spent years shitting on the people who actually made this localisation possible.

>Group C is the idorts who win either way and don't get wrapped up in the squabbles.

I own pretty much everything, so I'll be playing Monster Hunter anyway, but I completely understand why Nintendo gamers are pissed. I remember when all my Vita "exclusives" suddenly started getting ported to PS4 and PC and when Vita owners were told we wouldn't even be getting the sequel to Gravity Rush, I was so fucking pissed. That was before I bought a PS4. I still haven't bought Gravity Rush 2 though, I just can't support that shit.

>>383132385
sony bought the game, so it shouldn´t release on the switch. That´s the reason why every thread is full of "fuck of shill", "never ever" and other console war bullshit.

As someone who never played MonHun, game looks pretty nice with the graphics will buy for pc and maybe play 4U for n3ds

>>383133409
But group A gets the game since they buy the platform MH is on, they're not brand loyalists

>>383132889
>Items

Well shit you can really refill your pots.

nintendo kids getting cucked

>>383132385
I don't but I do SUDDENLY hate you though.

>>383133043
It's not casualized dumbass, if anything XX is what you should be yelling at

I'm just upset that it isnt portable. Hunting locally with buddies is great. Of course /v/ cant comprehend this and just screams that I'm a nintenbro, even though I would be fine with it on the Vita too.

/v/ is full of Nintenniggers as to neofag is to Sonyfags.

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>>383132805

The game looks like a MH game with updated graphics and cooler areas.

The concerning things are the grappling hook and how you can just spider man your way back on a monster if it knocks you off during mount. Also the new mantles that look like you can use as an easy button, and the full heal bugs that roam around.

aside from those things the game is fine

I'm going to play MHW, and MHXX if it gets localized, and you are powerless to stop me.

If you're doing anything different, you're not really a Monster Hunter fan.

>>383133629
>It's not casualized dumbass,
Really now?
>moving while using potions and bowguns
>free traps and stuns everywhere in the environment
>free damage from environment
>can lure monsters into killing other monsters
>magic flies that guide you to your objective
I fail to see how any of these changes make the game harder.

>>383132889
What's the launcher apparatus on their arm?

>>383133837
grappling hook

>>383133552
Who knows, you might be limited to how much goes with you on a hunt. You could have like 200 potions in the item chest in town but come quest time, you've only got 10 extra, and maybe less for megas

Also potions are nerfed apparently, no more instant heal, you gotta go through the whole drink animation which is longer now to get the full heal amount, and if you cancel out of the drink by rolling you lose the rest

Can someone explain to me why being able to swap weapons while in the field is a bad thing, aside from the fact that it's something you couldn't do in previous games?

Because it seems to me less like you guys are scared of casualization, and more scared of the concept of change.

>>383132889
wonder if they're going back to pre-tri armour designs

it's because it isn't for their switch. probably should fuck right off back to neogaf and cry about it

>>383133881
>if you cancel out of the drink by rolling you lose the rest
Oh man this is bad for button mashers in a pinch like myself

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MHW is what happens when you make MH for people who don't like MH, but demand that MH caters to them.

Enjoy your cinematic visual spectacle I guess. I wanted MH to look good visually as well, but I didn't ask for this.

>>383133802
look retard who lies and likes shitty anime fighting in monster hunter

>>383132671
>Do nintendo fans exist that don't have a PC?
Yes, didn't you see how apeshit /v/ got when they started trying to emulate Wii U's version of Breath of the Wild? The whole PC + Nintendo is a cover act.

>>383132671
>implying nintedokids playing on PC, even if they by any miracle have decent one
Keep dreaming.

>>383133915
Removes punishment for bringing inadequate gear into a hunt.

>>383133915
swapping weapons is the least of the new game's problems. Most of the new stuff in this game is streamlining stuff that makes Monster Hunter the game it is. Some of the streamlining is good, but I don't think its worth it to the stuff they are ruining.

>>383132385
If they made monster hunter with MHO graphics it wouldn't be enough to cater to the west. So obviously shits been changed to appeal to them and make the game easier. 10000% this game won't go past village 5 in difficulty.

>>383134009

Talk for yourself, faggot. I've been in love with the series since FU and always wanted a modern game with open maps.

>>383132889
that looks so cozy

>you can literally heal to full with that vespoid

>>383132385
I've always hated the horrible grindfest that it was. It sucked that you had to kill the same monster 4 times, in a 20 minute fight each time, just to get a single new piece of armor, depending on your luck.

I hope by "westernizing" it, they cut back the grind. Significantly. I'm actually crossing my fingers and hoping that Worlds is way better in that regard.

>>383134089
Nothing I said was a lie. Present a proper counter-argument or get lost.

mantles were the only concerning thing I saw from the gameplay video.
>need a break?
here, throw on this camo mantle.
>monster has wind effect?
here throw on this other mantle
>tremors?
yup, have another mantle!

>>383134175
MHX already cut the grind back a lot, you want it to be even less than that?
Do you even want to play the game at all or are you cool with getting only 100 hours out of it?

>>383134175
>wanting to casualize a game
Fucking neo-/v/

>>383134093
Most of that was falseflaggers from both ends though, same for most of the threads here. There are some concerns and improvements about the game, but it's mostly drowned in stupid false-flag console wars.

>>383134175
but that takes away the rewarding feeling.

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>>383132385

>>383134175
i feel rewarded that after a few kills i cut my kill times to under 10 minutes even if i don't get certain parts. if you're not learning the fights and improving every hunt you're doing it wrong

>>383133802
>magic flies that guide you to your objective
Why is this bad, but a magic drink that guides you to your objective good?

Prehunt is currently not fun or interesting in any way. You either know where the spawn is and run straight there, chug a psychoserum and run straight there, or just wander around aimlessly until you run into the monster. What makes that better than having a tool to build up a waypoint over time, to at least cut the wandering to a minimum.

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>>383134195
>need a break?
leave the area or farcast
>monster has wind effect?
>tremors?
You probably need to craft them the same way you'd craft armor with those skills

>>383134265
Also legitimate concerns of how this game will sell in its primary market on a much smaller install base.

>>383134175
>taking twenty ((((20)))) full minutes against any single monster
You even have the option of being carried by people who like the game enough to get better at it yet you still complain.

>>383134310
This is embarrassing.

>>383132671
Nope. Can't have a PC because emulating Nintendo games would be literally stealing from Miyamoto's bank account.

>>383132671
I fucking hate you roaches so much.
>haha we nintenbros can play something on PC and it will be better than the ps4 / xbox 1 version!
You can fuck right off. Guess fucking what. I can play it without owning a underpowered tablet and can still play the one single game your tablet has without owning any console. Stop leeching of other platforms and bringing them up to your defense whenever you feel like it. PC is not your father that you can bring up whenever some other kid is about to beat you up.

>>383134175
>implying they won't make the desire sensor ever stronger

>>383134245
>Praying for RNG is "hardcore"
Yeah man it's so tough when you run Rathalos 10,000 times hoping to get a plate. Casuals can't imagine the time I spent chopping off tails and then immediately quitting, over and over. It's simply too hardcore for them

People whinging about MHW arent really fans of monhun, and probably had 4U or Generations as their first. World is basically the MonHun concept as a whole taken to the extremes. Seriously go fucking read MH Illustrations, living ecosystems, smart usage of prep time and tactics, virually everything people are whining about that's new in this game was once thought of but dropped for the original very first game in its concept stages. MHW is basically as close to the original ideas for the game as it gets.

>>383134117
Oh no, i'll have to abandon (which resets everything to before the start) and geta diferent weapon, what harsh punishment!

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>>383134449
The only people concerned with Japanese sales are salty Nintendildos who WANT it to fail so they can get the last laugh. The rest of us just want a fun game, and hope it does well. We're not thoroughly analyzing the Japanase market.

>>383134380
Or you could, I dunno, add a proper tracking system to the game.

Tracking a monster? Look for its footprints, signs of a struggle, bent/broken trees and foliage, etc.

>>383134089
You realise there's more "anime" gameplay in worlds right?
On top of that they're both easier to use and not optional.

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>not only can you walk around while healing AND roll out of the animation to dodge incoming attacks in MHW, there are Giant Vigorwasps flying around the map that you can use to instantly heal back up on top
>you can ALSO resupply at the camp and fast travel to it anytime

A bit over the top maybe?

It's console wars faggotry and the hip newfag thing to do is be disingenuous
Worlds looks every bit the same as Online and Frontier
It got rid of nothing that made 4 and X/XX shitty

>>383133409

>leaving out the group that legitimately concerned about casual changes and is idort

not everything is MUH CONSOLE WARS faggot. some of us have a ps4/pc and a Switch and think MHW looks like garbage after watch a gorillion hours gameplay.

>>383134597
That's what you do, dude. The bugs are a visualization of environmental traces left by the monster.

>lets just pretend that sonybros didnt lose their shit when sony lost the brand

Why are you guys like this?

>>383132480
>concern posting
Fuck off already, nobody is falling for this shit.

>>383134597
That's literally what you do in MHW.

>>383134406
>You probably need to craft them the same way you'd craft armor with those skills
The difference being that it was difficult to get them all at once son.

>>383134591
wow only 2m views? and ~1% of those people bothered to thumbs up it? game is doomed. capcom paying for views on their videos lmao

>>383132385
>DmFUCKYOU comes out
>vee suddenly haets dmc guise!1!

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>>383134496
This.

Anyone with a decent PC isn't buying Nintendo consoles in the first place considering you can emulate them all.

>>383132385
I know I was disapointed by X
So I plan to get the PS4 game. Too bad it isn't on switch, I get bored at work.

>>383134676
Too bad the "visualization" is fucking in your face and way too prominent.
Why did the sfx for the scout flies have to be this fucking big and all over the screen? Reduce it by 80% please

>>383134729
>>383134676
>The bugs are a visualization of environmental traces left by the monster.
No, the bugs are a guide for every brainded retard to follow.

Fuck off with your defense of that shit.

>>383134334
>>383134302
>>383134245
>People think the RNG god deciding to praise you is "rewarding"
Nah fuck off. RNG is and always will be the sign of bad game design.

>>383133787

>no true scotsman

you realize that people in the generals had to take fucking idort purity tests just to be able to criticize MHW and they STILL got shitposted that they were just assmad nintenbros.

>>383134775
But the map icon for playing as a prowler or drinking a psychoserum is perfect, don't change a thing, Capcom!!!!!

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>>383134751
>An angry Sony fan actually took the time to edit the original.

>>383134496
That's an interesting way to act superior over being too poor to have a second-hand console for exclusives PC doesn't have.

>>383134837
That's been the original all along you retard.

>>383134775
But you can still follow a monsters tracks and marking without using the bugs at all. It's a far better system than drinking a psychoserum or throwing a paintball whenever necessary.

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>>383134310
THIS CAN'T BE REAL

>>383133915

dedication doesn't mean shit. see also the removal of the separation between blade and gun armor. yes i know there are damage differences still but that is between WEAPONS rather than weapon types. why the fuck am i taking more damage for carrying a SnS rather than a GS?

>>383134615
Incorrect

>>383134864
>haha, look at this faggot, he's too poor to buy literal shit, what an idiot.

>Game looks like casualized shit aimed at the western lowest common denominator
>Game is described as casualized shit aimed at the western lowest common denominator
>Game has the gameplay of casualized shit aimed at the western lowest common denominator

Hey guys, I'm no expert but I think this game might be casualized shit aimed at the western lowest common denominator

>>383134837
It's not surprising really. They always do that.
Remember when the term "neo-/v/" cropped up because the board was infested with Sonygro to which they retaliated with Nintendogaf?

>>383133962

>most people on /v/ don't own a switch

keep driving that narrative anon

>>383134903
>without using the bugs at all.
[citation needed]

>>383134496
>league babby getting mad he doesn't own a Nintendo platform and can't even emulate when everyone else does

>>383133915
>aside from the fact that it's something you couldn't do in previous games?
that's exactly it for these idiots
JUST RELEASE WHATEVER MONSTER HUNTER I PERSONALLY STARTED WITH AGAIN REEEEEEEEE

>>383134967
Why are consoleshits so embarrassing?

>>383134864
>can play the only worthwhile exclusive on the entire system for free on PC
>"you're just poor"
You are just retarded.

>>383132889
that looks like online hunts will last 30 minutes minimum.

>>383133915
There's nothing wrong with it. The only complains you see are autistically inconsequential ones

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>>383134904
Oh, it's real alright.

>>383134794
>RNG is and always will be the sign of bad game design.
So, almost every RPG ever created?
for it's RNG damages instead of hitting the same exact number everytime.
also, the RNG loots

>>383134160

>if i say i was a fan since an older game than Tri that means my opinion is law

buster_internet_lies.jpg

>>383135042
Must have first hand experience on how it feels

>>383134160
Do you even own FU?

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>>383133915
>franchise previously monopolised by Nintendo
>players are scared of change
Really updates your firmware.

>>383135042
>As a Nintendo user,

sure thing

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>>383134967
Keep trying to revise the narrative you fag. Too bad there's evidence in your way.

>>383134990
There's this thing called using your eyes and tracking based on your skill.

>>383132385
It's a weeb game.

>Easy as fuck to stun the monster and lead it into traps
>Traps do massive damage and can stun the monster for 12 seconds
>Can heal while moving
>Can apply stealth that makes you able to avoid the monster completely.
>Weapon hits seem to do meh damage
>Vigorwasps fully heal
>Monsters fight each other; totally ignoring you.
>Can stop a failed mount using a grapple
>Can paralyze with the slinger.

It's shit. Unless I see a proper fight, All I saw was a really fucking casual Monster Hunter designed for morons.

>>383132385
It always pretty niche in the west.

Speaking of which, what's a good one to play? I've heard they're pretty iterative so there's no point playing release order, but I'm still interested.

>>383135149
I fail to see how cherrypicking proves your point.

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>>383135120
Are all THESE falseflaggers too?

i havent played the game since FU and the one after that on psp that was in japanese only. do i get to have an opinion on world?

>>383135119
And before that they were on sony consoles, and the games were still fine when they switched to nintendo consoles.

Change is not scary. Monster Hunter has been changing and evolving drastically since the very first sequel. Stop being a massive baby and at least wait until the game has more than one hunt shown before you call it ruined, reactionary faggot.

>>383134175
>20 minute fights
Maybe some of the obnoxious flagship fights, most normal hunts take 5~ minutes.
I also never got the grind complaint since there basically no reason to fucking grind anything untill halfway through high rank, and most people who bitch about the "grind" probably never even saw a rathian a majority of early sets can be earned in under 3 fights, and like 5% of the sets require some faggy 5% drop jewel or plate a majority of "grind" comes from players trying to overgear two zones early because they need to kill something in three minutes instead of five.

>>383135184
That's what happens when a franchise is stuck with Nintendo's market research for years.

>>383135120
>If you say something that doesn't fit my extremely narrow worldview, it's not because I'm wrong, it's because you're lying
Life must be easy when you can delude yourself in this way every time you say something dumb.

>>383133802
That's not casualization, that's making it work and play like an actual video game

>>383133409
Which group made the first game for Group A possible?

>>383135210
FU
3U
4U
XX

you can try 1 but it's incredibly unpolished.

>>383135261
>game comes to sony
>gets casualized and turns cinematic
>blame nintendo for it
????

>>383132385
I'm buying the shit out of this.

>>383135310
Cheers, buddy. I'll give them a look.

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>>383135214
>I-Its just cherrypicking

>>383134751
At least they actually contribute to the industry and creators unlike parasites like PCers who steal brand new games.

>>383135220
That's kind of how falseflagging works anon.

>>383135367
Nintendo hasn't contributed anyhting worthwhile in over a decade.

>>383135290
proof right here that sonyroaches aren't MH fans at all and only care because it's on the ps4 now

fucking cancer

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>>383134904
Have another.

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>>383135331
MH vet here. Casualisation began with Nintendo games and only got worse with each release. What we're seeing now is the culmination of years of pandering to neo-Hunters raised on 3DS games.

>>383135413
>get btfo
>n-no i-it's just s-sonyr-roaches s-s-swear
You're laughably pathetic

Years of supporting Monster Hunter series on the Nintendo 3DS and event bought the Switch for MHXX I'm rewarded of being stabbed in the back by Capcom with MHW that won't even come to Switch.

After MHXX on Switch I will not support future MH titles anymore, no way I'm gonna shell out money for a shitty PS4 or XBone or get a gayman PC

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>>383135439
Is this a picture for 3DS users?

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>>383135439
>1498848311267m.jpg
>m
can't read shit dumb phoneposter

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>>383135398
Sure thing buddy.

>>383135220
Aside from those shitty screencaps, Sonybros love to falseflag as nitentoddlers as a way to try and feel superior, there isn't anything new in that pic anon.

>>383135359
What does that have to do with anything?
It's one of the biggest things to happen with Megaman since 9 and 10. If I remember right between then it was just a bunch of canceled games and Xover.

You are literally cherrypicking

>>383135554
I can read it just fine.

>See one heavily choreographed hunt against the game's equivalent of Velocidrome
>A bunch of teenagers who don't even play MH are now utterly and completely certain that MHW will be the worst game ever made

I wish I could leave this board. I wish I could just talk about Monster Hunter without a bunch of console warriors flipping out on each other about how this is the best or worst MH ever because it's on my console of choice.

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10 years of Frontier!

>>383135449
At least Nintendo MH games are still MH.
Now it's Uncharted. Enjoy.

>>383135556
he wasn't wrong. it's not a sony exclusive. whats your point here?

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>>383135556
>liar will never eat his own shit

>>383135629
Monster Hunter will not be worth a damn until it comes out on the Neo Geo like a real game.

>>383135556
You didn't even post anything that implicates Nintendo fans here.

Does anybody still play Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate?

>acting like there was any actual thought to tracking monsters in the past games

Like I can get most of the other concerns, but people are pretending that monsters didn't already have preset spawn locations that you instantly ran too as soon as the map loaded. Even the monsters that switched to a different location a few moments after the mission started only went to preset locations, so at most it was a matter of checking Area X first and then running to Area Y if they weren't there. There was no skill required for it at all, and like others keep pointing out if you really couldn't find them for whatever reason psychoserums were a thing.

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>>383135592
I'm pretty sure there's enough evidence ITT to show most of the shitposting is coming from salty Nintendofaggots, not people actually concerned with the game.

>>383135713
Occasionally.
I've been playing more 3U lately because a my hunting buddy picked it up on Wii U recently.

>>383135754
I already said this here
>>383134380


and basically their answer was "the particle effect is too big so it's casual" (>>383134768)


Don't bother trying to interact with these people. They don't even know what they're actually upset about.

>>383134794
Some form of RNG is present in almost every game. You should should shut the fuck up, you clearly have no idea what you're speaking of.

Everything shown about MHW so far has left me incredibly worried. Dumbing down staple series mechanics in order to appeal to a new market is major red flag

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>>383135754
People complain about the busywork of tracking down the monster while in the same breath complaining that you now don't have to use up an inventory slot and gather materials for paintballs.
I'm convinced a large portion of the complaints are just people being babies that some things are different.

>>383135682
really?

>>383135556
>>383135439
>>383135220
>>383135042
>>383134310

Next time you faggots try to deflect again and again, I'm going to repost these to remind everyone that it's just you cunts being salty, and shifting the blame onto others. Go fuck yourself.

>>383134591
Or maybe they're concerned because it could adversely affect the future of the franchise?

And lets be real here plenty of Sony ponies only care about Monster Hunter for console war points.

>>383135769
>I'm pretty sure there's enough evidence ITT to show most of the shitposting is coming from salty Nintendofaggots,
Such as?

>people in this thread RIGHT NOW unironically believe that world is casualized shit and will flop

It's what the series needed and its going to be huge. A couple autists whining on the internet doesn't change that.

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>>383135647
>At least Nintendo MH games are still MH.
They were less and less MH with each iteration. Need I remind you about Styles? Hunter Arts? All that superfluous, flashy, forced "innovation" shit began and peaked with the Nintendo-directed games. What we're seeing now is only an extension of that.
>b-b-b-b-b-but it's coming out on a Sony console!!!!11
And? The "developments" that led up to this were made as a result of being contractually stuck with Nintendo. It's not some kind of huge revolution brought on by associating with Sony. It's the natural development of a franchise was made to pander to casuals for years.

>>383133431
hurr sony paid for a game to be on xbone hurr durr

>>383135713
Me and my bros still do, we also ocasionally still play 3P and 3U, they didn't liked that much generations and they prefer to play XX later in future anyway.

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>>383135951
No, not really. Fuck you.

Not pictured here are my digital copy of 4U and my pirated version of FU.

>>383132671
Exactly. You can even see it in the replies to this post; lots of people referencing some vague group who MUST only use Nintendo -- none of them actually from this group themselves.
>>383134496
>I can play it without owning a underpowered tablet and can still play the one single game your tablet has without owning any console
No you can't.

>>383135985
Well we know it's casualized, we just don't know for sure it will flop. Good chance, though.

>>383135951
>adversely affect the future of an incredibly niche game in the West

They want the Dark Souls audience

>>383135917
You don't really understand the concept of both falseflagging and being a legitimate fan do you.
And if you hadn't noticed that post was directed specifically at the last cap you posted.

>>383135871
I don't have a problem with the scoutflies mechanically but I have to agree that the effect is a bit intrusive. If they toned down the density and glare I'd be totally fine with them.

>>383133409
I'm an idort, but I'm worried about the casual changes, just like >>383134667 said.

>>383134979
Narrative? I think you're looking into my post too much lol

>>383132671
Most do, otherwise they wouldn't have bought shitty Nintendo consoles that get better emulators 2-3 years after those consoles come out.

>>383135769
yeah because believing a bunch of anonymous posts in the internet is enough proof for you

whatever rolls with you buddy, sounds like you're more angry with then shitting on your fanbase rather than anything.

>>383135359

Japan hour was among the best things to ever happen to /v/, and you somehow see it in a negative light because it was for a console you chose to hate.

I really don't know what to feel except pity.

>>383136081
>Well we know it's casualized
no, we don't, shifts in mechanics don't mean casualization

>>383135897
Combat looks exactly the same with new moves.
Hunt, carve, create is the only part of MH that truly matters and it's still there in the same form.

>>383136073
Do you self identify as a Sony pony, anon?

>>383135282
a u t i s m

>>383135449
It literally started with FU though.

>>383136092
They're gonna get it. Western gamers hated MH because it had no lock-on, weapons were slow, and there were no HP bars. All things which Dark Souls graciously reversed.

Now that MH has lock-on and weapons that swing like they're made of paper, we need only await the reveal of HP display, et voila. The Dark Souls audience is going to jizz themselves.

>>383136098
I'm pretty sure the faggot with a Zelda pic on his twitter account isn't a falseflag you dumb motherfucker.

>>383136190
What is being able to sprint while drinking a potion? Not to mention being able to roll out of it.

the only MH game worth playing is FU

>>383134927
Wait, they got rid of armour types? What the fuck? Why?

>>383136190
>shifts in mechanics don't mean casualization
You have seen the gameplay haven't you?
The monster can damage itself with the environment how is that not casualised?

>>383134698

t. corporate drone

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>all these salty nintendildos

Damn, this is funny as fuck.

>>383136329
>FUckers

>>383136276
>Now that MH has lock-on
This meme is like 8 years old now.

My question is why do you guys seem to think all the easy mode stuff will be in every hunt?

Why do you think the tutorial hunt is going to have the same number of environmental tools as the hardest hunts in the game? It's like seeing someone hunt Great Jaggi and then declare that Furious Rajang is also casual because of how easy Jaggi was.

>>383132483
You mean EPIC CINEMATIC ACTION?

Might as well fucking wait for God Eater 3 and Toukiden 3, they aren't great but they aren't shitty Western wannabe trash either.

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I just want monster hunter on a handheld.

Capcom killed the Vita and now it wants to kill the switch.

Why are you guys doing this?

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>>383136186
It's called Japan time you stupid asshole, and you Reddit shits turned it to shit. I've gone from liking Nintendo from 25 years of growing up with them, to outright hating them, and their fanbase cause of retards like you.

Kys.

>>383136092
That audience is smaller than the MH one, though.

>>383136291
You might want to look at his twitter.

>>383136214
except the hunt part was made easier...

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The pinnacle of Monster Hunter core gameplay

>>383136382
Fuck. Has it really been that long?

>>383136319
>sprint
I swear the speed gets faster with you shitposters every time you mention it.
>roll out of it
Which cuts your health recovery short.

>>383136418
You are weak. You deserve everything you get.

>>383136486
B-but a grappling hook!

>>383136486
what is this retarded bullshit, some XX thing?

>>383136464
prove it.
You've seen the equivalent of a Jaggi fight in a fucking E3 presentation where they always give the player baby-mode so they don't fuck up the show.

>>383136002
>Need I remind you about Styles? Hunter Arts? All that superfluous, flashy, forced "innovation" shit began and peaked with the Nintendo-directed games

Literally ONE FUCKING SPIN-OFF GAME THAT ISN'T MAINLINE, ARE YOU RETARDED OR SOMETHING? GEN ISN'T MH5 YOU SHITBRAIN

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>>383132889
HOLY FUCK IT LOOKS SO GOOD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN HARDLY WAIT

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>>383136436
Ok.

Anything else?

>>383136417
If they are trying to kill handhelds then why is Monster Hunter XX on the Switch in Japan?

>>383136214
>item consumption while moving
>fast travel with no cost
>no more separate armor sets for Blademasters and Gunners
>Gunners can move while shooting
The finely crafted balance of the series is getting ruined just to attract casuals to the series. Fuck you for defending this trash

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>>383132385
I actually like God Eater more, but I've also only played Monster Hunter 4 before.

>>383136497
6 but close enough.

Because the series is shifting platforms after gaining notoriety these last few years. Personally I don't see what the problem is. Capcom has never committed to one platform for long before moving Monster Hunter somewhere else, it's what they've always done. Hell for all we know their side team could be working on a Switch version of World the same way Portable 3rd was to Tri before G/Ultimate came out. Personally I think that'd be the way to go if World proves successful.

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>>383136418
>stopped playing games you've liked for 25 years because some people annoyed you on the internet
Now this is autism.

>>383136486
its treason, then

>>383136627
That's going to be the last game they make on the switch.

they're going full home console now

>>383136363
>Mfw FUfag and salty
>Called a Nintenbro because apparently people don't actually like Monster Hunter and are apparently glad to have Horizon Monster: Zero Hunter Dawn

>>383136580
it has been stated multiple times in here...

>full heal bugs
>changing gear whenever you want
>mantles that give you skills
>grappling hook to insta-remount
>several landscape traps to aid you in killing
>other monsters to aid you in killing

idk why you can't see this yourself?

>>383134093
this so much

nintenniggers are fucking cancer with their nintendo+pc bullshit

>>383136498
>I swear the speed gets faster with you shitposters every time you mention it.
Well it was faster than walking, not a good response by the way.
>Which cuts your health recovery short.
That makes it okay? In previous games drinking at the wrong time is a cart, now you can just roll out of it until you get the chance.

>>383136526
Yes, the grappling hook is broken because it allows you to quickly remount with little effort.
Arts at the very least require timing and a charge and aren't the best damage dealers.

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>>383136645
>item consumption while moving
Movement and flexing limitations only existed because of the ability to just fuck off to a different area.
http://gematsu.com/2017/06/monster-hunter-world-item-use-moving-base-camps-change-equipment-details

>fast travel with no cost
>no cost
How do you know it doesn't work like farcaster?

>no more separate armor sets for Blademasters and Gunners
[citation needed]

>Gunners can move while shooting
With limited special shot types.
Neck yourself inbred.

>>383136214
>Combat looks exactly the same with new moves
>exactly the same
>with new moves
Pick one.

>>383136645
>things are changing therefore casual

> Game has been reusing assets and is basically unchanged since the PS2.
> Finally something new happens with the series.
> People start bawling uncontrollably.

>>383136780
Sonybro, leave

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>>383136563
The last bastion of pure Monster Hunting for the true, supportive and concerned Monster Hunter fans

>>383135449
>Casualisation began with Nintendo games
Someone didn't play Portable 3rd, a PSP Monster Hunter that casualized further what Tri already casualized. Hell if anything TriU and 4/U actually brought difficulty back.

>>383132385
THEY TOOK THE COOKING MUSIC OUT OF THE GAEM

>>383134178
shut fuck up I won you lost you don't get play that card I do you lied i'm just calling you out retard now shut fuck up and leave you don't get to talk you lost that right subhuman

>>383136792
I will pick exactly the same with new moves. The feeling of weight, timing, and animation locks remains exactly as it did. New moves are not enough to change the entire concept of the game's combat.

>>383133881
>Who knows, you might be limited to how much goes with you on a hunt
That doesn't sound casual enough for MHW.

>>383136580
>You've seen the equivalent of a Jaggi fight
You mean barroth

>>383136862
>what Tri already casualized
And Tri was made for which console?

>>383136418
>It's called Japan time you stupid asshole, and you Reddit shits turned it to shit
Whoops. You're right. Somehow mixed up japan time and korean hour in my head (RIP, pre-S1 LoL)

Also Japan time has nothing to do with e3 reveal spam. If anything, it evolved into 4AM pudding threads.

>>383132563
Could someone actually explain what progress is being made? So they replaced all the loading zones with hallways, who gives a shit?

>>383136836
>X was anime bullshit
>World is westernized shit

Well, time to leave Monster Hunter for a few years, maybe I'll go try out some of the clones.

>>383136737
>full heal bugs
We don't know how plentiful they'll be or if they'll even show up every hunt
>changing gear whenever you want
We don't know if fast travel is limited a la farcaster
>mantles that give you skills
We hardly know anything about skills. Notice in the new gameplay video that the hunter's chestpiece had "level 1 attack up", meaning the whole system has been reworked
>grappling hook to insta-remount
May be limited to 1 per mount and mounting itself may be more difficult, we don't know
>several landscape traps to aid you in killing
And? That's cool as shit. Who says the same traps will be available every hunt or that the monster will be in an area anywhere near them?
>other monsters to aid you in killing
See above.

New tools != Easier gameplay.

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>>383136486
looks like horse shit... it's why I play gun / magic / projectile based classes -- to avoid the garbage mash fest

>>383132385
As soon as a franchise is ported to PC it goes to shit.

I mean just look at Dark Souls or Bayonetta.

>>383136986
>who gives a shit?
Everyone not gaming on a toaster with outdated hardware.

>>383136792
GRRR WHY DID THEY ADD CHARGING AND A SLAP ATTACK TO THE GS MONSTER HUNTER IS RUINED

>>383136831
PC master race, sorry.

Who /only played the sony titles and scared to jump in/?
There must be so many new monsters and mechanics that I don't know, any game I'd pick up now (mhw or nintendo's) will feel like a completely different game from those I played. Yet I kinda miss it.

>>383136648
To be fair, GE and MH have very different style of gameplay and only share the fact of both being hunting games more than anything.

But yeah i tend to prefer GE more, I still love both series, MH is still amazing to play with bros but since Generations my drive to play the game in the series has been too low, not even MHW seems that exciting for me, i probably going to play it because it looks like a new interesting approach more than anything.

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>>383136806
nintenbros arent people

>>383137113
don't be a wimp. get in and hunt monsters. get better by playing, pussy.

>>383136862
I wouldn't call Tri casualised seeing as Barroth was a major casual filter. P3rd fucked him over since though.

Where does the "Nintendo casualized Monster Hunter" meme come from?

4U's endgame is fucking ridiculous to the point that the Japanese players were butthurt.

And Generations has those shitty Deviants that are unfun to fight due to basically shitting out attacks like mad in multiple directions that are way harder than anything from Gen 1 and 2.

Did Plesioth's hitboxes being slightly nerfed really anger people that much?

>>383136708
In japan top kek. 500k sales max in japan.

>>383137081
A N3DS could run the hallways no problem. I really don't see how making half the game LE EPIC CHASE SCENE through a hallway is going to improve the gameplay.

>>383137182
The spin off game for anniversary of the series had unbalanced poorly thought moves in a pve game. Casual as shit.

>>383137182
Basically it started happening since Worlds was revealed.

>>383132385

Is this 3U on CEMU?

>>383137182
From the trailers and E3 demo

>>383137006
>something that helps you kill a monster doesn't mean it's making the game easier!
wat

also, you can just run to your camp and change gear if farcasters are limited.

>>383136889
New moves such as jumping and grappling hook? Those totally change the flow of battle from previous games. You're going to approach a battle differently if you know you can grapple out of the way if something goes wrong or jump over for an overhead attack if it corners you. You don't have to think about placement anymore.

Not worrying about placement is made even more evident by the fact that you can run and gun with the HBG now. It's got huge power, but the drawback was always that you had to bunker down in one spot to use it. Guess that wasn't casual enough for Capcom.

>>383135897
this, was excited before and now I'm not. still gonna pirate it though to check how bad they fucked it

>>383136806
You mean

>Underwater Combat
>Mounting and Climbing
>Westernized shit like autotracking, "open world" and literally everything in the environment does the job for you so you don't need to actually hunt

Guess which one people are pissed at. Though to be fair, underwater combat is also rage inducing depending on what weapon you use.

>>383137175
Tri had significantly reduced average HP pools over previous entries and monsters saw replacements that were overall slower and simpler, such as Bnhabra replacing Vespoid and Jaggi replacing the Dromes.
Still a great game though

>>383137059
Tbh I thought everyone loved the Bayonetta PC port?

>>383137203
Well yeah. XX already sold almost 2mil there on 3DS.

>>383133802
>>moving while using potions
How many times do people have to explain that without gated zones, easy heal isn't an option anymore. Something a lot of players did on multiple big monster fights.

You faggots dont even realize that the reason for this change is literally to pander to the jap mh audiences style of play.

Also
>I fail to see how any of these changes make the game harder.
>QoL improvements now determine difficulty
??? Nigga difficulty in MH has and always will be determined by the monsters first and foremost.
Why do I get the impression that all the people complaining are those who never really played MH past village quests...

>>383137329
>jumping is a new move
You're not a monster hunter fan. Leave and don't come back.

>>383137312
So basically

>Monster Hunter "veterans" haven't played a game in years and are praising a game purely based on what console it's on

Gotcha

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>>383137287
>A N3DS could run the hallways no problem.
I'm sure it could shitposter-kun. I'm sure it could...

>>383137317
>something that helps you kill a monster doesn't mean it's making the game easier!
wat
What if monsters have more health to compensate?
Just use your brain for 2 fucking seconds and realize that it's okay to not know.

>>383137182
People think that because brave and adept make it easier to survive it's now ez as fuck, yet any shit player using these tools will still time out on a lvl 10 or super, even if they happen to never cart. People forget that surviving is only half of being good.

>>383137428
Deja Vu! I've been to this place before!

>>383137168
Well I don't see negative backlash that pokemon has towards new monster entries, so I guess they're still fun? But all that jumping around and water battle still put me off.

How many monsters is this going to have? Have they said?

>>383137329
What if you're not in an area with grapple points or grappling is limited in a manner like wystones and you can't use it right now?

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>>383132385
>rathalos set against zinogre

>>383137419
>easy heal isn't an option anymore.
You realise you could stay in the same area and still heal fairly easily right?
This is just unnecessary casualization.

>>383136945
I can't really call what Tri does as casualization though. Hitboxes are tighter which isn't a bad thing by any means, in Tri you could still fuck up felyne kitchen and get health and stamina debuffs, also the new monsters weren't slouches either from Barroth's constant charging and tail whips to Barioth's Nargacuga based speed. Now comes P3rd for the PSP, Low Rank monsters are actually dumber than they were in Tri and had movesets gimped and now you never had to worry about debuffs because of the hot springs always boosted your health and stamina and drinks always guaranteed skills.

>>383137345
>autotracking
You mean like fucking paintballs?
>B-but you do it before you find the monster!
The alternative was memorized spawn points on a tiny map, real fuckin invigorating.

>>383137525
>But all that jumping around and water battle still put me off.
Water battles aren't in the series anymore, and jumping is easy. quit being a faggot and slay monsters or fuck off.

>>383132385

Multiplatform

>>383135367
Be quiet. You don't know shit.

>>383137526
Nah, we know only of the three from the video. I guess Rathian is also a given.

>>383137560
Shut up and stop talking about mechanics I haven't seen! I saw a grappling hook and so I KNOW the game is literally a fisher price baby game now!!!!

>>383137458
>What if monsters have more health to compensate?
Then it becomes a damage sponge. I hope you didn't think that Gog was hard because it had a fuck ton of health too.

>>383137426
>le no true Scotsman fallacy
Jumping is a new move for the regular build. There are no arts or styles in this game as far as I'm aware. The aerial style in MHX nerfed your overall damage in exchange for maneuverability because they understood that both together would make the battles too easy. Here, you just have both anyways.

>>383137560
Guess that could be fine, though I didn't see a recharge meter. It also doesn't address the maneuverability stuff I just mentioned above.

>>383132480
Capcom said they are never bringing it over.

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>>383137287
I'm sure Monster Hunter World could run on the Switch, anon sure it could... just like Batman: Arkham Knight on the Wii U.

>>383137458
>get aided by a random monster that shows up
lolnope that didnt make the game easier!
>get aided by a random trap on the map
lol still didnt make the game any easier! know why? because the monsters have more health to compensate for these things!

holy shit kill yourself

>>383137748
>Then it becomes a damage sponge
4U must've been your first MH game.

>>383137748
>Then it becomes a damage sponge
>There's no middleground between "muh ideal vision of every monster having perfect health in the last MH I played" and "WORLD IS GUARANTEED TO HAVE TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE"
I'm not responding to you anymore

>>383137784
>Jumping came with arts
You are not a Monster Hunter fan. Leave and don't come back.

Why do Sony fans like cinematic experiences so much?

Why do they not like playing games themselves instead of just watching things happen?

>>383137809
I mean if Monster Hunter XX works at a playable 30fps the who knows

>>383137809
Do you genuinely believe that World is doing anything graphically or technologically impressive?

>>383137784
>It also doesn't address the maneuverability stuff I just mentioned above.
You mean the HBG thing? It's a limited special shot-type and from the new gameplay vid it doesn't seem to do a whole lot of damage. It's probably meant for situations where you want to keep putting out damage but are absolutely unable to sit in place.

>>383137357
>Dromes in FU only bite and jump and die in two minutes
>Jaggi has tail whips, hip checks, multi bites and an actual rage mode
>Bnahabra on top of their ability to stun players can also debuff their defense which can be seen worse than stun in some cases becuase it can happen off screen
>somehow this is slower and simpler
I wouldn't be to sure about that.

>>383137816
>Setting up a trap where the monster is
hardcore
>knowing the location of an environmental trap and leading the monster to it
casual

What exactly is the metric for you guys? Is anything even marginally different from your first MH casual?

>>383135648
>>383135664
it's not a sony exclusive but the anon in question should still drink their piss or something for being a cocky shit

>>383137876
How fucking dumb are you saying that it's westernized? Have you played Lost Planet 2? Is it shit because it's "westernized"?
Dumb niggers and nintentoddlers I swear

>>383137835
So what you're saying is that for some reason hunting for longer than you should makes a monster hard.
Your average Worlds defender everyone.

>>383132385
It was never good though. Haha.

>>383132385
>What went wrong?
First off, /v/ hates any change whatsoever. Secondly, the MH fanbase hates any change whatsoever. They just want more monsters, armor etc without much changes.

That said, changes like open world, stealth(actual hunting) and moving while consuming have been asked around the fan circles since PSP times.

Well tbf, I played those games since the very first game and I honestly dont care what they do with the game at this point. I'm gonna buy it anyway and its probably gonna be good, with its own pros and cons, just like the rest of the franchise.
But its clear that they needed a drastic change after X. Because it perfectly showed that the franchise has become too stale.

>>383137946
They both still attack slow as molasses compared to their counterparts. I don't really have a problem with them, just noting that they're pretty ass easy to handle because they hardly do shit.

>>383137981
You're arguing off an inherently wrong metric it's almost like you don't know what you're talking about

>>383137973
Look at all upcoming ps4 games
>spiderman
cinematic qte
>god of war
now cinematic
>days gone
cinematic zombie game
>uncharted lesbian edition
you know it
>tlou 2
same thing

all upcoming ps4 games are the same thing
and now they make MHW in that style as well.

>>383137892
You have no idea what a straight port is versus an enhanced port do you.

>>383138085
Does cinematic mean "graphics from after 2007"?

>>383137873
I said arts and styles together because they were introduced together. I know it was only the aerial style that allowed you to jump, and I even mentioned that in my post. It's embarrassing to see you trying to do anything to avoid possibly admitting you're wrong, or even compromising to some degree.

>>383137927
No, I meant being able to jump while still being able to do full damage, whereas the aerial style in MHX nerfed your overall damage in return for maneuverability. That's kind of reassuring knowing that moving around with a HBG is just a damage nerfed ammo type, though.

>>383132385
Monster Hunter is just a shitty dark souls clone that makes you grind shit loads, garbage game series, can't even make up anything original

>>383138085
>all upcoming ps4 games are the same thing
Only western ones and I don't give a fuck about them
>and now they make MHW in that style as well
Keep telling yourself that, autist

>>383137816
>What exactly is the metric for you guys? Is anything even marginally different from your first MH casual?
Yes, that's exactly like this.
I wanted a monster hunter with all the old stuff intact and new stuff, monsters, areas and weapons to play with, with LE EPIC GRAPHICS on big screen.
Was that too much to ask?

>>383137909
i'ts doing the no saturation of call of duty games no color in a jungle full of green shit.Why is it all brown-gray.

>>383137963
why not just give you the option of carrying around infinite deadfall or shock traps then if they don't make the game easier?

>>383138123
>Jumping came with styles
You are not a Monster Hunter fan. Leave and don't come back.

>>383138116
Go rewatch sony's e3
then you'll understand what it means

>>383137963
>Setting up a trap where the monster is abs either having the right set to place it quickly or putting it down a distance from the monster ensuring you won't get hit while doing it
>hardcore
>>knowing the location of an environmental trap and leading the monster to it for it to crash into itself
>casual
You might want to add the rest anon.

>>383138184
Jumping from the ground, yes. Not off of a ledge.

>>383138182
Effectively the same as having a trap palico.

>>383138031
>and moving while consuming have been asked around the fan circles since PSP times.
NUH UH I'VE BEEN PLAYING SINCE THE FIRST EVER MONSTER HUNTER (TRI) AND EVERYONE TOLD ME IT WAS ALWAYS PERFECT AND WAS SHIT IF IT CHANGED EVERYONE THINKS LIKE THAT JUST ASK SLASH VEE

>>383132480
>MHXX localization when?

gbatemp about 3 or 4 months ago

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MHW will end up being too easy and too focused on the visual spectacle and environmental interaction.

Remember my words next year when you play this game and you'll know I was right.

>>383134105
Hi. I'm right here, you know.

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>>383138224
>Jumping from the ground, yes.

>>383138123
>aerial style was the first instance of jumping
How many games have you played exactly?

>>383138085
But MHW is multiplat

>>383138337
And what will you do if you're wrong?

Will you admit that you were wrong, or will you convince yourself that it's terrible to satisfy your fragile ego?

>>383138350
But for all weapon types, you retard. That's a part of that weapon's moveset. The trailer shows the player jumping up with a GS.

>>383138123
>No, I meant being able to jump while still being able to do full damage
Not sure what you mean by that. Again I imagine the grapple hook is limited in some way so I don't image you can just use it as a get out of jail free card all the time.

>>383138069
They're the first monsters you fight in both games, they're not really deemed as threats unless it's your first time ever playing Monster Hunter. They really only exist to give you armor for when you face your first big monster like Kut-Ku or Qurupeco in Tri's case. Still I wouldn't really call the Jaggi family slouches in comparison to the Dromes, especially where Wroggi and Baggi are concerned.

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>>383132385
What "happened" is consolewar faggots. As much as people here hate shills, complete and undying loyalty to a specific brands is quite common around here.

>>383138394
Buy the game and enjoy it of course.
But I'm rarely ever wrong.

>>383138394
>And what will you do if you're wrong?
At this point is that even a possibility?

>>383138409
It showed the player kicking off a wall, and jumping off a ledge. Both things that you've been able to do, with the GS, for several games, without arts or styles.

>>383138105
Of course I do. Monster Hunter XX is an enhanced port of Monster Hunter X (or generations) on the 3DS, so obviously that means a higher resolution. Either way it's still a "who knows"

>>383138409
>The trailer shows the player jumping up with a GS.
Post timestamp because everytime I saw him go for a mount he went off a ledge or a wall.

>>383138337
I know you're probably right, anyway. I don't have to wait until next year.

>>383138394
Personally, if I'm wrong, then yes I'll buy it.

>>383138394
I'm literally never wrong.

>>383138239
Yeah cause the palico totaly will put it 100% each time in an area that you want or at all in high rank or g rank where it dies so only hunters can.

>>383138460
Ironically keeping MH to a single platform would stop this.

>>383138436
>especially where Wroggi and Baggi are concerned.
>He hasn't fought G-rank Baggi
YOU'RE
TOO
SLOW

>>383138409
That's an addition to aerial style in mhxx.

>>383138570
What else can you tell me about high and G rank in MHW? You seem to have the inside scoop, guy.

You're not just talking out of your ass and extrapolating about hunts we've never, ever seen, right?

>Mfw sonybro
>Always played Mon Hunt on PSP
>Angry as fuck that Mon Hunt went to 3DS
>See this trailer
>Zero hype

It looks so damn casualised it hurts. I didn't ask for this. I asked for Monster Hunter not Touokien 3. Anyone who enjoys this are either casual fuckbois or underage shitposters.

>>383138584
Yes I have. Several times. I love seeing my health get chipped to death because G Rank Great Baggi won't stop fucking biting.

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>>383137909
No.

But the Switch couldn't handle it anyway.