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why are japanese games based on the middle ages so much more

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why are japanese games based on the middle ages so much more realistic than games made by americans?
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Why are weeaboos so stupid?
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murricans think Tolkien is an actual historician
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>>383122982
>someone wasted time making this image
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>>383122982
calling WoW a medieval rpg is just plain wrong.
Literally nothing about it has anything to do with a european medieval except for stormwind guards
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>>383122982
americans have no history so they have no respect for it
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white people actually prefer this kind of armor
fucking embarrassing
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>>383122982
>WoW
>Medieval
Thats some next level stupidity, please proceed to the nearest ditch and kys.
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>>383123145
White people nuked the shit out of your homeland, Takeshi.
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>>383123145
white """people"""
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>>383122982
>Souls games
>Realistic weapons
pick one
Yes, I know OP is bait
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lmao
wtf is this gay shit
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>>383122982
I do love Henry IV's coat of arms
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>>383122982
will people ever get tired of the ancient jap vs west thing? why not enjoy both? or just enjoy one of them without dragging on and on pointless arguments every single fucking day?
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>>383123291
>A FUCKING MOTORCYCLE HELMET
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>try to make souls-like game
>still manages to fuck it up by using that shitty wow style
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>>383122982
>I have played 2 video games: Dark Souls and WoW This is my conclusion
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>>383123581
how fucking stupid are you?
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>>383123696
Almost as stupid as you
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>>383123059
>murricans think Tolkien is an actual historician

The armour isn't Tolkien based. It has an actual cuirass, and pauldrons, tassets and gauntlets that would actually work. It looks like armour.

Armour from Western devs doesn't look like armour. It looks like something that an autist made out of duct tape and foam so he could go LARPing.
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>>383123291
Wow
Not a single one of those looks good
How does Blizzard do it?
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>>383123518

Eeeeeeew.
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>>383123083
its still a a euromedieval fantasy game even if things are highly exeggerated.
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>>383122982
There are tons of american games with realistic armors, you are just cherrypicking
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>>383123291

>be druid
>need armour
>waste all my money on pauldrons
>welp, that'll have to do
>die from a single arrow to the chest
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>>383123958
>There are tons of american games with realistic armors, you are just cherrypicking

Such as?
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>>383123958
>be american
>tasked with designing armor for upcoming triple A game
>make fuck huge pauldrons with bright colors
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>>383123518
Yeah, I don't know why they thought that would take. I guess they thought they would try to be unique or smash two popular things together.
I mean a big part of the series' appeal is it's gritty sense of adventure, which is sort of lost when your character has "PAULDRONS BABY!"
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>>383122982
>posts fantasy
>calls it medieval
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>>383124035
Nevermind, checked games I had in mind and they are all based in Europe.
Skyrim has some realistic looking armors thought.
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I hate this stupid WoW style so fucking much.
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>>383124350
Steel plate and some of the low-level armors look pretty good.
Unfortunately the high level armors are all WoW-tier trash fantasy armors
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When did Japan become so boring?
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>>383122982
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>>383124679
Because you keep searching the boring thing to shit on it and ignore the non boring thing, like a true /v/ you are.
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>>383122982
Finally someone brings this up, its the main reason i dont enjoy western games anymore.
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Thread is gay as fuck and the weebs are triggered more than ever
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>>383125083
You mean the non weeb getting triggered because MUH PAULDRONS right?
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>Asian """""Americans"""""

Fuck off back to /r/asianmasculinity.
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>>383125141
its FANTASY genre are you dumb or hwut?
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>>383125297
Look at what OP post you dumbest retard, he never once stated anything about fantasy, nigger.
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>>383125089
terrible designs
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>>383125354
are you implying WoW is a medieval european setting?
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>>383125289
>getting trigger over a subreddit
Typical white beta cuck.
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>>383124558
I like some of the high level armors, like Ebony mail,dragonscale, Elven and nordic carved. blades armors, they are not the most realistic but look good and not too ridiculous either in my opinion
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>>383125510
No, but the armor look dumb and unappealing.
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>>383122982
>made by actual white people

This may have been true once upon a time but these days western developers have diversity quotas to fill OP.
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>>383125510
you willing to stake your balls that it isnt?
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>>383124350
>Nevermind, checked games I had in mind and they are all based in Europe.
>Skyrim has some realistic looking armors thought.
>>383124558
>Steel plate and some of the low-level armors look pretty good.
>Unfortunately the high level armors are all WoW-tier trash fantasy armors

Oblivion was much better for practical armour that would more or less function as armour. Half or more of the armour is Skyrim is badly designed and shows that the designers don't really understand how armour is supposed to work.

Even just watching this youtube channel would help them a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9wSgyo9JTI
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>>383125570
nothing wrong with that opinion, there are many valid arguments to be made against WoWs armor design.
OP is still a faggot for calling it a medieval rpg
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>>383122982
Not all games are autistic grimdark bullshit, OP.

>>383125390
That's how the armors looked like in real life, and Chivalry aimed for more historical accuracy faggot.

>>383125534
Yeah, Bethesda's now deceased concept artist was really good.
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>>383125297
>its FANTASY genre are you dumb or hwut?

It doesn't matter. The armour is badly designed and wouldn't function if it was physical and put on a human form.

You're like someone who knows nothing about computers and thus thinks that this is a cool hacking scene and it doesn't matter if it's actually dumb since it's FANTASY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Hn1rPQouU
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>>383123518
Out of all the games that have a gay WoW tier visual design, I have found LotF to be the least disgusting.
At least the materials look good.
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wow probably has the worst armor design of all vidya. Even Oblivion is better
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>>383123323
>14
Wot
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>>383122982
Well, for a serious answer, I suspect its because the Nips do their research because they're not as familiar with the history, while Americans are more complacent in their knowledge, making things based on previous stuff they know.

I guess that only bears out if Americans are more realistic then Nips on Japanese armor and weaponry.
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>>383123078
This always makes me feel sad. I see a lot of these baiting pictures and I know somewhere out there, there's a person who has so little going on in their life that they have time to make pictures like this.

I mean the majority of /v/ already claims to prefer Japanese games, so why target the minority? What's the appeal in that?
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>>383125880
that scene you shared tries to be serious, WoWs armor design really does not.
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>>383124558
>>383125534
Dawnguard armor was the only one I liked, even the steel plate looks off to me.
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>>383125716
Oblivion's armors were also quite dull, except for the Daedric.

>>383125880
>fantasy
>wouldn't function
Did you graduate elementary school.
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armor thread?
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>>383125925
yeah, WoW is pretty much the lowest bar to beat
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>>383126061
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>>383125814
>chivalry
>historical accuracy
I can already tell you're american. Tell me about the fabled helicopter manoeuvres they used in real medieval battles, mongoloid.
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>>383126127
Plate armors are pretty shitty desu. They were vulnerable against anything that isn't sword.
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>>383122982
because you're cherrypicking
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>>383122982
>comparing high fantasy to dark fantasy and then claim the difference is because of nationality
epic bait
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>>383125656

Fable would be a better pick for UK
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>>383125517
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>>383126171
I didn't say 1:1 accuracy you autistic manchild. It's just a history themed game, not historical game.
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>>383126313
>The Asian """""American""""" and Pacific Islander """""Community""""""

LMAO
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>>383125814
That guy was was without doubt a good artist, but he's responsible for the shitty almost-steampunk weapon designs in FO3.
By the start of the war plasma and laser guns were widely adopted, mature technologies. There's no reason why they should look like fragile lab prototypes.
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>>383122982
Because spiky red glowing particle effect vomit is more alluring than superior sleek blacksmith historical design, and it grabs the attention of little kids more easily. They are the target demographic of video games, regardless of what the actual rating on the game says.
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>>383126323
>moving the goalposts
just amerifat things
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>>383122982
Oh fuck off, as if anime games aren't full of just as stupid armor designs.
Also, all the "realism" is focused into modern military shooters in America, show me a Japanese game besides Metal Gear that can get that shit right.
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>>383125517
>Tfw you aren't an Asian """"American"""" """""male"""""

feels good man
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>>383125656
Wtf I love Korea now.
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>>383122982
>Americans
>White

LMAO nice delusion muttboy.
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>>383125517
/r/asianmasculinity
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>>383126441
show me american military shooter that gets that shit right first
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FUCK I HATE WOW ART STYLE SO MUCH ITS LIKE THE EMBODIEMENT OF CANCER
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>>383126313
>Brazilian
>white
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Who ArmoredSkirts here?
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>>383125517
/r/aznidentity
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>>383126231
>anything that isn't a sword
>fighting a guy with a sword
>clad in full plate armor
>"what you gonna do with that pussy sword faggot?"
>proceeds to flip the sword around and beat me to death with the pommel

Plate was the pinnacle for it's time because it offered the best protection against unskilled peasant soldiers.
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>>383122982
>dark souls
>realistic designs
>wow
>medieval rpg
>americans
>white
>gooks
>alive
the person that made this image needs to be quartered
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>>383125517
/r/easternsunrising
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>>383125517
its simple existence is pathetic
worse than the Magic card club in high school
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>>383126601
Me.
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Name one good game by western white devs in the last 5 years. 1 (one) game. Western gaming is overrun by SJW and PC.
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>>383126306
>cuck souls
>dark fantasy
It's pretty weak compared to actual dark fantasy.

>>383126413
They did simplify the design, and the laser rifle turned out to look a lot more functional than that concept art.

>>383126427
Except I didn't. I said "~more~ historical accuracy". It's far less fantasy.
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>>383126050
>A genre wherein medieval European folklore is portrayed as a fact of time period.

Where does it say that extraneous points of articulation on armor are now no longer weak to force?
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>>383125517
Typical sexless asian male.
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>>383126725
Fallout 4.
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>>383125517
Asian men: Being cucked since 5000BC.
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>>383126313
>/pol/tard getting triggered over a video game thread
holy shit, that wow armor design must be real fucking embarrassing
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>>383126828
I said good Todd.
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>>383126725
My collection grows. thank you anon
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A better question is why Japanese go for medieval European settings and aesthetics more often than a medieval Japanese one.
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>>383125517
AMWF worst pairing.
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>>383126448
hnggggg, I am not gay, but the thought of having to bend over licking my Asian goddess' temple clean from the gank of her white stud, while he rams his thick and veiny white dick in my skankhole is extremely arousing.
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>>383126867
post the rarest pepe you have.
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>>383126859
Say whatever you want, I wasted 300 hours on that game and enjoyed every second of it.
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>>383126867
>Users/LORD/
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>>383123251
you could've posted something that wasn't supposed to look warped and ravaged by insects
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>>383126850
I'm sorry you were born a pin dicked asian cuck-boy whose only purpose is to watch female members of his family get WESTERNIZED.
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>>383126313
>>383126448
>>383126536
>>383126603
>>383126701
>>383126707
>>383126762
>>383126845
>>383126898
I can't believe an armor thread triggered /pol/ this hard
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>>383125814
>That's how the armors looked like in real life
No, it's not. Chivalry armour is pure larp armour.
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>>383126050
>>fantasy
>>wouldn't function

Yeah. The humans in the story with the exact same physical form as me and you would not be able to move in the shit they are wearing, not would it actually protect them from weapons.

You are just too ignorant to see for yourself because you do not understand the subject matter.
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>>383126938
That just means you have ridiculously low standards.
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>>383126762
>asian twats playing the traditionalist woman card to get beta cucks to support them and their kids
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>>383122982
>world of warcraft
>medieval
???
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>>383126601
>>383126721
i love these, post more
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>>383126061
>armor thread?

Buy my game. If you kill 30,000 rats and coyotes in the woods with your sword you get a flying snake.
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>>383126920
That's a tough one.
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>>383126750
>hard to be a god
How's the vidya?
I remember trying the demo and it didn't look all that bad.
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>>383126061
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>>383126256
>space marine pauldrons
>oversized weapon
>oversized high medieval shield with plate armour
nah
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>>383126975
There was a thread a few weeks ago where we exposed asian dudes creating race-bait shitposts all over 4chan from some IRC channel. I think that's what anon is referring to.

Asian American men seem really highly strung.
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>>383126945
It was an abbreviation for something that I can't remember.
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>>383127084
Nice tzeentch sorcerer
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>>383126873
Probably because everybody else does it and there are more kinds of weapons and fantasy creatures that fit in that setting. Nioh is set in japan.
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>>383126231
Plate armour is literally the most protective form of historical armour. Literally any type of armour will protect you worse.
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>>383126873
Medieval Europe just looks better.

I've been to Japan and China, it's amazing how uniform the art and architecture has been over the past 3000 years in East Asia. Just hip rooves and pagodas repeated over and over and over and over again.

Medieval Europe is way more comfy.
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>souls
>grimdark edgy "hardcore" singleplayer game
>marketed towards fedora wearing redditors who take themselves and their games too seriously
>main marketing gimmick was "look how difficult this game is! only l33t hardcore gamers can deal with this!"

>warcraft
>colorful cartoony high fantasy mmorpg
>marketed towards teenagers and general fantasy fans
>main marketing gimmick was "look how many players we have! this game is for everybody!"
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>>383126413

The idea behind the Fallout 3 plasma guns was that they were suppose to have been designed by the Enclave post war, a rushed miniaturized version of the huge clunky plasma "rifle" we see in 1 and 2.

Keep in mind that the laser rifle in 1 and 2 was made out of a converted sniper rifle too. I'm pretty sure energy weapons were always meant to be in their early stages pre-war.
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>>383127197

That is fuckin' sweet.
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>>383122982
>americans
>white
no
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>>383126873
Medieval Europe is more varied as you have every culture within Europe and their histories to work with. It's also probably more interesting for nips who are already familiar with their own folk lore.

Eastern history is also boring shit for the most part until the 19th century
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>>383122982
Yeah, I know this is bait. But let's have a quick lesson, shall we with Dark Souls armor design on the left. Mmmk?

He can't breath out that helmet, there's no visor to lift or shift from his mouth, and I highly doubt he can see. His thighs seem to be unprotected, but that could just be because of the small image. His right arm, we'll call it his sword-arm, has a pathetic piece of leather. If you're going to have something on the sword-arm, it might as well be something that can actually deflect or protect you. That leather needs to be much thicker if it's going to help you, which if it does get thicker, it might be too difficult to effectively move the sword-arm. The weapon shown would most likely be held with two hands, making the shield redundant. On top of that, because he's wearing so much plate over his body, there'd be no reason to even use a shield. Plus, if there's plate involved, the sword would be a secondary weapon, his primary would be a pole-arm of sorts.

Lastly, a lot of people seem to think that armor would be rusty, dirty, or beaten. Quite the opposite, actually. Armor, especially plate, would be expensive and you would need to maintain it for there are no freebies after the first, if you are even given one to begin with. I will say though, as much as I hate Dark Souls 3, I do enjoy how most armors have the shield arm more protected, and even have daggers carried around the waist. Nice touch.
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>>383127162
high strung? this thread is literally just making fun of the shitty wow armor western games usually have. but someone got a little too pissed off from it
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>>383122982
So many assblasted americans in this thread
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>>383125656
>No Blade: Edge of Darkness for Spain
Sad!
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Dress~
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>>383127567
they're assblasted because they know it's true
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>>383127558
>high strung?

There are Asian posters on 4chan who have been spamming AMWF couples for the past 9 years, pretty much every week on every board.

Make of that what you will. That's Taoism for you.
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Nailed it! Nothing is cooler than this.
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>>383127308
laser rifles were commercially available, even the ATF was renamed ATFL
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>>383126979
>not flashy at all
>larp

>>383126982
>subject matter
The subject matter is deliberately unrealistic, thats's the point. How far inside the spectrum are you?

>>383127007
No, I'm pretty much patrician.

>>383127129
Entirely nothing like the movies (both the 2013 and 1986 east german film). Got some good stuff, but overall mediocre.
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>>383127698
are we pretending that white guys don't do that at all? >>383126313

some anon got butthurt from a silly armor thread and some how decided that it was /pol/ related. you /pol/tards need to stay in /pol/
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>>383127612
>sargon
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>>383127746
>The subject matter is deliberately unrealistic, thats's the point. How far inside the spectrum are you?

The subject matter is armour, its design and purpose. The purpose is to fit on the human body and to protect the body from harm. It the design could do neither then it is a shitty design. Like a one legged horse that runs like the wind.
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>>383127746
>not flashy at all
>larp
This is exactly what Chivalry armour looks like.
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>>383127938
those retarded plastic weapons are so dumb
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>>383122982
hijacking this garbage thread, post armor
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>>383127993
>those retarded plastic weapons are so dumb

They look better than most Skyrim weapons.
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>>383127740
not the same anon, but I'd imagine that most of the pre-war laser/plasma rifles would've broken down by 2277 because of all the fragile and hard-to-replace tech in them, no?
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>>383128020
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>>383127861
>can't search for the historical figure without getting the youtuber as the first results

nice
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>>383127918
Tell that to bikini armor, f.am.

>>383127938
That's just due to low budget graphics.
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>>383122982
>15 year old game that relies on exaggerated art style to compensate for a lack of graphical fidelity
>5 year old game whose devs had access to hardware that can make even mundane shit look beautiful
This is like comparing original Doom to Crysis, you're fucking stupid OP.
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>>383122982
because americans are fucking retarded
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>>383128020
>>383128189
Those are just shiny dresses for sissies.
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>>383128189
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>>383126310
But then it wouldn't be funny
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Why does real life armour look so much more elegant than video game armour?
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>>383128020
>>383126061
Will participate, but all I have to contribute are mesoamerican ones
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>>383128343
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>>383128447
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>>383128335
Essential aussiekino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxlEI-kTY2I
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>>383128497
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>>383126426
>Folded one mirion times 80 meters long katana
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>Americans
>White
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>>383128368
That's a joust armour, they're heavy af and were not for use outside jousting shows.
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>>383128368
Because it was the result of hundreds of years of refinement of the marriage of form+function.
Fantasy is form first and function second or not at all on the extreme.
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>>383127107
scary
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>>383123059
>historician
anyway, what has tolkien got to do with any of this? lotr is not cartoony at all.
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>>383126598
>boobplate
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>>383122982
Pick one, /v/
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>>383128610
>>383126426
Washing pole is probably the best name for a legendary sword

It's got the least edgy name for the edgiest sword
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Blizzard and a couple of other devs just basically want to compete with warhammer over the title of the biggest pauldrons.

Black templars are the best chapter
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>>383126962
It's funny, really. The absurd paranoia 4channers have about black men with white women is actually the reality with white men and asian women.
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>>383126256
>left handed

As if game designers would ever let me have that again.
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>>383128757
51
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>>383123518
This, shit ruined this game for me and I really tried to like it.
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>>383128801
Why is he running when he's got cunts infront of him carrying shit slowly?
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>>383128757
32
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>>383128662
That's not jousting armour at all. That's field armour.

This is what jousting armour looked like
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>>383126962
>curves of a 10 year old boy
>that face
jesus
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>>383128908
He is obviously posing for the codex cover art.
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>>383128748
>plate

look again gayboy
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>>383128757
I'll have two number 9's, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45's; one with cheese, an a large soda.
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>>383128662

it's field armor you idiot
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>>383128943
unfortunate face he was pulling at the time desu
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>>383128757
This is only for specific polearms, how about this one
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>>383127432
>spiked armour
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>>383128429
Also, some explanation of terms:

- Triple alliance: The alliance of the city states of Tenochtitlan, Texcoco, and Tlacopan
- Mexica: The specific group that founded Tenochtitlan
- Aztec: Doesn't have an actual meaning because none of the natives or the spanish used the term. usually means either the entire empire (so the triple alliance + all the territory they controlled and their tributatries), the Mexica speffically.

Osprey/the author seems to be using them all interchangably here. Also, for those curious: The vest you see on the rightmost indivual here is actually armor: Ichcahuipilli. It's a composite: interwoven layers of cotton and jute, like gambeson, which is soaked in mineral rich water and left to dry, which then had mineral growth inside to make it resistant to lacerations and being pierced.

The suits the other two are wearing are called Tlahuiztli, and were made of hide, cotton, and/or leather worn over ichcahuipilli underpadding.

>>383128757
51, no contest. Edge for slicing, point for stabbing, hammer for smashing.
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>>383128932
That anon was right. It's a jousting armor, just the helmet that's locked on the armor is typical of those
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>>383128662
>>383129010
>silver and gold embroidery
>field armor
Must've been worn by some faggot prancing around the castle.
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>>383127861
Kek. epic
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>>383129101
They look ready for a pajama party.
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>>383126975
>blaming /pol/ for reddit shitposting
so...this...is...the...true...power...of...nu-/v/...
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>>383129084
>not having spiked braces for hth
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>>383123930

This fucking bait. Its a steampunk fantasy game, not any where near a euromedieval fantasy game.

The only thing medieval about the series is that they use swords and have castles. Fuck off, but a few things doesn't make it medieval.
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>>383129168
Is like YrYr Pajama fighters mixed with Mortal Kombat
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>>383127612
>>383127861
>zoe
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>>383128585
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>>383129101
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>>383128429
Imagine hurting one of those modern day Mexican subhumans who believes he is an Aztec .

Imagine torturing the motherfucker as he died.

JAJAJAJA AZTLAN JAJAJAJA MEHIIIICO! MI PAPI! I CANNO EVEN SPEAK PROPER SPANISH!!!!

Slit his throat. Fuck Chicano subhumans.
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>>383129256
>YrYr
Yu raff Yu roose ?
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>>383128910
why 32 over 34 or 36? The cross is supposed to help not get stuck
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>>383129327
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>>383129080
Halberd is the redpill - you can slash and thrust while still having range.
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>>383129358
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>>383129382
Firearm is the redpill.
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>>383122982
Because its whats "exotic" to them. Just like many westerners like highly realistic Japanese armor and weapons many Japanese like highly realistic western armor.
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>>383129462
God, the autism.
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>>383128757
51 best
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>>383128801
He's trying to jump over them
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>>383122982
Americans are massive plebs and have no culture or history, what else is new?
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Murricucks are fucking retarded. What a surprise right?
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>>383129363
Apparently the priest here is actually mixtec, not aztec, but I haven't looked into it fully

These also go into the different ranks and structure of the aztec military in a medium amount of detail, if you want clarification on what's being shown here:

http://thelastdiadoch.tumblr.com/post/121131173130/aztec-education-and-military-training
http://thelastdiadoch.tumblr.com/post/121200787615/cu%C4%81uhoc%C4%93l%C5%8Dtl-part-1-ocelotl-jaguar-warrior
http://thelastdiadoch.tumblr.com/post/121293122010/cu%C4%81uhoc%C4%93l%C5%8Dtl-part-2-cu%C4%81uhtli-eagle-warrior
http://thelastdiadoch.tumblr.com/post/122176185680/aztec-warriors-otomi-and-the-shorn-ones

I had another site that went into it but I can't find it at the moment.


>>383129339
I mean, a full 30% of mexico's population is culturally/genetically indigenous.

I'm sure there are a lot of posers who call themselves aztec even if they are purepechan or otomi or are so culturally/genetically diluted from any precolumbian group they have nothing in common, but a huge amount of them actually are pretty related to at least one precolumbian culture
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>>383126962
Fucking disgusting. I have no use for slaves. Grow a backbone or get out.
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>>383124679
Notice how all their weapons are properly proportioned and not spiky paddles.
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>>383129149
It's not uncommon at all to find this sort of thing on field armour. Certainly it was worn by the military elite, who could afford it, but it's not like it makes your armour any less protective.
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>>383129794
>I mean, a full 30% of mexico's population is culturally/genetically indigenous.

Source?

Most Mestizos are 60% European on average.

And their culture is overwhelmingly Spanish.

SHITcano anti-European subhumans are filth.

MI PAPI!!! MI SHITTY SHITCANO """""CULTURE"""""!
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>>383129327
How dif the helmet not get hit with the shrink ray?
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>>383125089
armor 1 only fucking guy with a shield
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>>383129794
"Tlaxcalan" here refers to Tlaxcala, which was a confederacy of city states that were enemies of the aztecs who the aztecs were in the process of conquering via a war of attrition when the spanish arrived. The Tlaxcalans intially beat the spanish, but spared them at the last minute to use against the aztecs.

The army that actually sieged tenochtitlan, which is the battle that most people consider/refer to as the defeat of the aztec empire, was like 95% Tlaxcaln and Tontac, not spanish.

>>383129917
I can't find the source at the moment but I read a breakdown on this litterally a few days ago.

tl;dr the official census mexico uses to track indigenous numbers is flawed because it only does it by language, so somebody genetically still like 90% native but doesn't speak nahua, for example, wouldn't be counted. I think the person cited CIA statistics for the country that did it more accurately and that's where the 30% figure comes from?

Anyways, but yeah, the spanish conquest wasn't really a complete, clean job, it was pretty patchwork and most of the actual conquerering was done by native groups being led/directed by the spanish, so there were still a lot of pockets or regions where even though to the spanish, they "owned" the territory, the actual people there and their cultural praticeses were basically unaffected and continued to this day.
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>>383125656
uh uh uh add Germany with gotic! we have mage paladin and warrior!
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>>383130361
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>>383129907
>painting session armour
>field armour
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>>383130361
>muh feathers
-faggot indio
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>>383130437
>Chicken Warrior [Elite]
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>>383130361
Mexicans are subhumans and inferior to us Greeks.
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>>383122982
Obviously the japanese have more respect for their source material
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>>383130470
It was absolutely common to have armour etched, painted, gilded, etc.

It does not make the armour any less protective so there's no reason at all to make your armour better looking.
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>>383129917
>Most Mestizos are 60% European on average
Do you have a source on that? I'm just wondering myself, because I never identified as indigenous and I agree with what you said about the culture being mostly European, but then I took a DNA test and I was like 60% indigenous 30% Spanish. It was surprising at first, because I don't really have any indian relatives, but after thinking about it it makes sense somewhat since my family descends from illiterate rural peasants.
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>>383122982
>>383122982
>>383122982

I'm gonna go ahead and state the obvious: there's realistic and unrealistic examples from both the west and the orient. Although I don't know of any AMERICAN realistic ones from the top of my head, but many European ones at least.
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Gun Knights,
Yay or nay?
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>>383129149
Having richly ornate armor on the battlefield in those times was beneficial because that meant chances were higher if your side loses, you will be taken captive and ransomed instead of being beaten to death by pissed off poorfags. Notable exceptions were French versus English, but that one went beyond pure pragmatism.
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>>383130707
YAY
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>>383128801
That's why Warhammer copying Blizzard design?
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Realistic armor can get pretty weird
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>>383125656
Switch it to God Emperor or 2000ad style armor for Britbong and its perfect.
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>>383130684
>It does not make the armour any less protective so there's no reason at all to make your armour better looking.
By that I meant: there's no reason at all to NOT make your armour better looking.
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>>383130707
Unless the armour is quarter inch thick, it won't stop shit. That's why plate armour lost it's popularity during firearm advancement.
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>>383130707
cool
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>>383128447

Hated these guys in dark souls 2.
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>>383130797
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>>383130885
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>>383125656
fucking died at the Uk one
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>>383130807
Plate armour and firearms actually coexisted for quite some time. During the second half of the 17th century plate armour gradually became less common but against early firearms it was still reasonably protective. In particular because aerodynamic bullets have not been invented yet and firearms albeit likely to penetrate armour at close ranges had much less penetrative potential at larger distances.
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>>383125934
You hold a metal hand holding a knife, what's not to like?
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>>383130609
Pay your debts.
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>>383130707
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>>383130437

>>383130542
The bird, and the dome thing you see in >>383129327 , where basically like banners you had in european warefare or roman signum, they were used for identification, coordination, and signalling.

https://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://s30556663155.mirtesen.ru/comments/42450577151/page
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>>383131080
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>>383130690
I'm not even surprised 4chan is shit now when it's full of niggers , arabs, turks, women and latin american monkeys
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>>383131316
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>>383130976
heck plate armor was expected to be impenetrable by hand held firearms for quite a significant period to the point the the origin of the term "bulletproof" refers to the act of firing a pistol into plate armor and presenting the resulting indent as proof of the armor's quality
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>>383131035
Look at those smug motherfuckers, they know they gonna win and there ain't nothing the other guys can do about it.
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>>383131035
>ma Mario, do you think we will be back home for la pizza de la mamma
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>>383124350
>Skyrim has some realistic looking armors thought.
Such as?
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>>383131494
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>>383122982
japan had middle ages, amerilard didn't, you retard.
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>>383131840
Steel armor
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>>383131840
?
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>>383132036
It literally stops there though
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>>383132036
>that
>realistic
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>>383123982
People only care about the helm and shoulders anyways, maybe the chest if it has something cool on it
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The same reason they do white women better. An actual appreciation for the culture derived from their lack of it.
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>>383123058
Ask yourself westaboo.
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>>383131840
Stormcloack and imperial armors, blades armor, Dawnguard armor, Iron armor tons of other light armor as well.
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>>383132347
the fact that dark souls literally has only one piece of armor that isn't a jrpg abomination never stopped anyone from spamming it in every thread as well though
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>>383122982
wow is as much a medieval rpg as super mario is an RTS. Look up the elder scrolls series or other similar games (witcher, shadows of mordor could fit in that list, etc)
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>>383125289
>>383126536
That's actually a decent subreddit to be honest.
Don't know why it keeps being touted as the worst shit ever.
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Who the fuck started this trend? They all look like toys
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>>383132036
awful trash
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>>383123058
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>>383126598
>war-weary thousand yard stare animu eyes

Best animu eyes
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>>383133186
>Who the fuck started this trend?
muricans
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>americans
>white
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>all these butthurt americans spamming /pol/shit after being insulted over game design
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>>383122982
>world of warcraft
>medieval rpg
are you literally fucking retarded, you gigantic fucking idiot
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>>383122982
>america
>white
lmao
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>>383127478
Noob question; what is the optimal armor for the sword arm?
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>>383122982
>Hilarious level of cherry picking
>Uses example from high fantasy mmo known for its outrageous designs and cartoon graphics

Sure now let's compare the Havels set against something from Chivalry or Mount and blade
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>>383122982
Murrica didn't exist in the middle ages and according to murrica, when murrica didn't exist, the world and written history didn't exist.
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>>383129327
>Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.png
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>>383125656
You know something is fucked up with the genre when Turks are the best on the list.
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Why is the West so shit at armor design?
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>>383134479
Canadian and turksih, respectively. Diumb murican
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>>383123895
After TBC their armor design went to shit
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>>383133186
>americans trying to make money off of a different age demographic
>choosing the age demographic thats more willing to buy useless shit.
>not appealing to the 20+ where everyones a critic and almost no one is happy with what they get

Couldn't tell ya
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>>383122982
>americans
>white
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>>383131901
I-is that priest wearing human skin?
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>>383122982
>wow
>based on the middle ages
???
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>>383123059
I do hate how western developers stick so closely to Tolkein in medieval fantasy settings and never stray TOO far. I mean they'll change some stuff up around, usually something like Orcs being misunderstood dindus who are victims of racism instead of just a race of evil monsters, but they never really change the core races of humans orcs elves dwarves, ect. (Dwarves I'm actually surprised are still a ubiquitous "race" in fantasy settings in current year, when you consider they're a real thing that exists. I mean it's not like you could get away with having black people being their own non-human fantasy race, Redguards aside.)

Like Zelda has it's own fantasy races and they're pretty different but still totally work for the setting. Why can't other people do that?
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>>383122982
lmao
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>>383128189
>>383128020
y'all my niggas
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>>383122982
>Jap games
>realistic
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>>383130707
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>>383122982
because you're retarded?
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>>383128757
50
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>>383137068
Don't insult this character design
I frequently cosplay as this character at my local community college
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I missed the part where gnomes, dwarves and orcs roamed around medieval France next to William the Conqueror and Charlemagne
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>>383136209
Game ?
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>>383138640
Exanima you ignorant frog
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>>383128757
32, it's a classic
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it's like something you'd see at a medieval museum exhibit
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This thread proved that weebtards and amerilards are stupid as fuck.
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>>383140880
>that guy who lets you know he's better than you because he doesn't have an opinion
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>>383126598
>plate armor everywhere except the chest

oh my fucking god stop this dumb shit
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>>383130797
T h i c c as fuck
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>>383132036
>realistic
>skyrim
>horned helmet
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>>383122982
>why are japanese games based on the middle ages so much more realistic than games made by americans?

To be fair, Japanese had middle ages. American's don't.
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>>383141830
the japanese chainmail still triggers me
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>>383130609
>greeks
>superior
You're the niggers of Europe.
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>>383122982
Calling the setting of World of Warcraft "medieval" is wrong and massively misleading. That's an awful comparison.
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Japanese always had a huge boner for medieval Europe. They always had a massive historic and light medieval fantasy scene.
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>>383142474
how would their feudal era which none of them were alive for, make them better at recreating a feudal era for a completely alien culture on the other side of the world that had little to no contact with them?
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>>383143336
They can understand the concept, research the subject and apply it using their own feudal age as a base (?)
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>>383125656
Korea being superior to Japan, as usual
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>>383127613
Chris is best waifu
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>>383122982
>Uses World of Warcraft as an example of a medieval setting
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>>383129327
>>383129363

>obsidian glass weapons

I JUST WANT THEM IN MAH GAEMS
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>>383136209
Ah yes. It took me 40 hours to be decent at this game.
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>ctrl+f "Darklands"
>0 result

I always knew weebs were downright disgusting casual.
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>>383131541

Even Ned Kelly used plate armor in 1880 with considerable success.
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>>383132516
Jesus Christ, at least try to be more subtle
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>>383134910
Why is a shitty Korean MMO so much better than a multibillion dollar Japanese MMO riding on the back of a popular, long spanning, multibillion dollar franchis?
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