FF XII HD

>>383111052
me on right

>>383111052


which is why it looks perfectly fine.

It's a remaster, not a remake.

>>383111052

They added several things, but the only things I can remember off the top of my head are 8x speed (doesn't matter for emulation) and being able to switch between two classes.

>>383111052
Me on the left

>>383111052


any footage of the female party members

>>383111338
>yfw 8x speed is still slower than emulation
That's kind of hardcore thinking about it.

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>>383111310

But they changed it so that you can have two jobs per character and altered some other things.

does that make it a remakester?

>>383111310
>>383111737
It's 3.0 of the game with modified visuals(looks worse to me).

It's got worse gameplay than the IZJS version though, it's way too easy.

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>>383111812
>it's way too easy.
It's not out yet.

>>383111958
They've doubled the speed from the IZJS which already broke the game's difficulty AND given you double the jobs.

>>383112271
How does increased speed mean lower difficulty by any means?

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>>383112271
If your idea of difficulty is how tedious it is to grind levels, then yes, doubling the speed DOES make it easier, and the only thing double jobs means is that you're less restricted, which by all means, is a lot fucking better than having half of the game's skills completely unavailable to you no matter what, not to mention it encourages further creativity in character builds. This is fucking ridiculous, I can't waste my time on this when the new Castlevania series comes out in a minute.

>>383112338
You don't feel like you're grinding and get overlevelled basically instantly.

>>383112526
Doubling the doubled speed and making every character twice as good. The gameplay isn't even fun at this point.

>>383112595
Tedium does not equate to difficulty.

>>383112701
Why are you being a faggot? You know what I'm talking about.

>>383112732
Why are you being a retard? Making the game faster does not make it easier, just less tedious.

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>>383112732
>>383112849

>tfw your mom and dad are fighting

>>383112849
You're a fucking idiot you can't even read. You grind infinitely more than you would normally when you're playing at ultra speed without even realizing. The game instantly becomes easier. Plus you have double the jobs.

Conversation over, nigger.

>>383112595
>>383112732

The issue with this is if you're that worried about the game becoming trivial, just play fucking weak mode. A play through of that is legitimately a lot of fun if you like the game a lot. This strikes me as reminiscent of people saying gambits make it so you don't have to play the game. The option to not grind is still there so just don't, it's single player and someone elses experience effects you in no way.

>>383113034
>You grind infinitely more than you would normally when you're playing at ultra speed without even realizing
Or you could not be a complete bitch faggot and just play the game normally instead of stopping to grind at every turn.

>>383111052
That shitty nu-male font for dialogue is fucking terrible.

>people in comments saying its nothin but resolution bump, meanwhile they added new shaders to all character models, and even enchanced Fran's butt, also remixed ost

this is going to be bomb, because XII is one of the most underrated games in the series, it comepletety recks anything they made post 2006

>>383111052
Multiclassing is the reason to play Zodiac Age over IZJS now that we know that it's a thing. Also I'm curious as to how the stats of everything have been tweaked again.

is this game good? ive never played it

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>>383113306
IZJS always had a save editor so not really. There's no reason to play the Zodiac Age.

>>383113367

>enjoyable ost
>comfy grinding
>story that isnt about teens fighting satan
>probably best looking ps2 to have ever come out

>>383113367
not really, it's okay

>>383113454
>story that isnt about teens fighting satan
what did he mean by this post?
>probably best looking ps2 to have ever come out
eh....

>>383113454

not to mention the game is actually enjoyable to explore.

>>383111052
If the game was actually fun to lay they wouldn't have added a speed up mode. The speed up mode is essentially them admitting that the game is boring.

Truth be told I've never not had to manually select stuff despite gambiting as hard as I could. XII just sort of shifts the inputting work into the party menu since you can swap equipment and characters on the go.

>>383113529

>FFVII, VIII, IX, XIII, XV

all these games had shitty anime tier casts
no faggots from those games come close to Balthier or Basch

also Vaan is lame, but he stfu most of the time, he's more a player insert than anything else.
before the time of costum characters being the norm

>>383113292

>and even enchanced Fran's butt

Your claims seem suspect. I'm going to need proof.

>>383113569
The speed toggle is for grinding, and you can beat the game without grinding. You don't need to grind unless you're going after endgame bonus stuff like Subterra or Behemoth King or whatever and suck at jrpgs like me.

>>383113569
There are plenty of enjoyable games that I enjoy more with speed up even if it isn't necessary, particularly on repeat playthroughs.

>>383113529
Is there a better looking PS2 game? When emulated I can't even really think of any competition for it, game's gorgeous.

>>383113448

Unless you don't want to bother shutting the game off, opening a save editor, changes classes and skills every time you want to do it. It's even more tedious if you play on an actual PS2.

>>383113649

gambit system is the double edged sword if XII. on one hand you can rely on it on the harder bosses of the game, but it makes grinding a numbing blur, which i dont mind because of the sweet ass soundtrack.

I'd much rather have that than 'auto-battle' on XIII

>>383113791
>Balthier or Basch
both are literally anime tier faggots like the rest of them. let me guess you're just attracted to their gay as fuck clothing. vaan has more lines of dialogue than both of them too stop making shit up you faggot.

>>383113869
it's not really gorgeous to me, the character faces are the only thing that really holds up I think.

>>383113454

>story that isnt about teens fighting satan

You left out the part about the story just disappearing for long stretches, only showing up to tell you to go to an ancient temple for an artifact or some shit.

>>383113969
You don't have to shut the game off just reload a save.
>clear one job
>activate another
So hard. You can also have a totally custom party, Zodiac Age is a joke, until it gets PC mods anyway.

>>383113367

It gets a lot more praise now than it used to. Part of the reason is probably because it's nostalgic to people who were kids when it came out. In 2006 it received a lot of hate. There are worse Final Fantasy games, but there are better ones as well.

FFXII aged like fine wine so I'm glad they didn't try to do an overhaul like that god awful FFX port

>>383113791
>agreeing that X and XII have the best protagonist casts

I fuck with you

Larsa has a better butt than anyone on OP

>>383114175
They did overhaul it, it looks pretty damn different. It's just not as bad as FFX thankfully.

>>383114128

I said tedious, not hard. I don't know why people on 4chan think these words are synonymous. And what about licenses? Do you mean to tell me that you can simply switch a job and all of the abilities you want are activated? No, you'll have to activate them yourself, which will get really old if you switch jobs a lot in a playthrough.

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>>383111052
>Taking emulation into consideration

>>383114142

>like XII
>must be a kid

I actually thought it was decent at the time, not worth the long wait because it was in development for like 6 years.

However, with the XIII trilogy and XV, this game suddenly opened my eyes to what the game was trying to archive. and after a few years in hindsight, it became one of my favorite FFs. fuck XIII, that's the true cancer of the series.

also faggots hated XII on release mainly because of VAAAAAN XD

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>>383114295
Why wouldn't you? Most fans have emulated it and won't buy this game.

>>383114184

X had strong cast because of how diverse it was, it wins by default.

>>383114415

I emulated this game 2 years ago, however I'm definitely getting this

>new ost
>revamped shaders
>menus actually in HD
>uncompressed voice audio
>uncompressed textures
>double jobs babeh

enough reason for me

>>383114526
Added not revamped shaders, FF12 didn't have such things. And the textures are changed not uncompressed, and the voice audio is still compressed to hell and back.

OST should be good but buying a game to listen to music you can download is dumb.

>>383114050
The story disappears right as you reach Mt. Bur-Omisace. It was already thinning out a bit but that's when it just isn't there anymore. I think that's as far as the devs got before the production fell apart. They obviously had the key points up to the ending thought out so the game has an ending, but after the Bergan bossfight there isn't anything at all until Archades. No bossfights, no unique scenarios, no cutscenes, no new characters, nothing. It's a tragedy.

>>383114324

>must be a kid

>Part of the reason

Reading comprehension, mate. Yes, a lot of hate was directed towards Vaan, but a large portion of it was also directed toward gambits (which was a bunch of bullshit, you could ignore gambits), the fact that the story started out strong and then got significantly weaker, often times feeling like it wasn't even there, and the license board.

anyone know the frame rate? seems to still be 30

>>383114639
>and the voice audio is still compressed to hell and back
Didn't that get debunked?

>>383114885
30

>>383114929
No.

>>383112271
>The game is easy because I tripled the speed and grinded a hundred levels.

>>383115150
>>383114292
>he's still replying after being shamed

What's with that double image effect during cutscenes? Anyone else notice that?

I always thought it was the PS2 emulator being buggy, but it's there in the console version as well.

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>>383114415
>Most fans have emulated it and won't buy this game.

>>383114128
Tip: Zodiac age is not coming out for PC. Not a single official source has said so, and all teasers/trailers have been branded with the PS4 logo, ONLY.

>>383115221

>Everyone's blasting your stupid arguments out of the water
>"Haha, I won and they can't accept it."

Whatever helps you sleep, kiddo.

>>383115391

Not that guy, and unlike him I don't care if people buy the Zodiac Age, but I'll be surprised if it doesn't at least makes its way to PC eventually, same with FF XV. S-E has been porting and re-porting a lot of FF games to PC in recent years, so I don't see why they'd stop now.

>>383115280
It's true, it's been true for every remaster.

>>383115391
Just like every other FF right.

>>383115651
Right, like 5 years later, when interest is null.

>>383111052
The remaster looks better all around. Don't even trip dawg, PC is getting this within a year, so keep any hardware related bias up your ass where it belongs.

>>383115741
Well at least you agree with me. And they all sell great on PC so what basis do you have about null interest?

>>383115809
Not him but I agree that it looks bad. They washed out the colors for some reason.

>>383115741

More like 1-2 years. Many of the games getting ported came out years before SE cared about PC again. If you look at the more recent games, like Lightning Returns, the span between console and PC release is shorter.

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>>383115651
>It's true, it's been true for every remaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqj810EY9Q
>literally exactly the same as pcsx2
I'll stick to emulation.

>>383111812
>looks worse to me
So you're blind.

>>383116202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoIle4JfA4o
Wrong link

>>383116262
It does look worse.

>>383116202

>PCfag only cares about graphics.

Gee, what a shocker.

>>383114929
The only misinfo campaign was from fanbpys saying the voices were fixed, but they were never broken you just didn't like it. And you still won't like it.

>>383116428
>console cucks only care about achievements
How autistic.

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>>383116428
>not caring about graphics when the whole point of a remaster is to revamp the graphics

>>383116564

I care more about new features. I could not give less of a shit about graphics if I tried.

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both are from youtube, ignore the compression shit.

why did they change the colors so much?

>>383112595
>You don't feel like you're grinding
How is this bad?

Anyone here has done a NLB/LLG challenge for FFXII?

I won't do it again, but I really love the game. Regardless if emulation is the better option or not, I wanna support this remaster at least.

>>383116808
>looking for new features
>in a remaster
Then you want a remake

Man the culling is really jarring

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I have a theory about the games launch

>Tidus faggot
>Cloud Cock Suckers
>Squall anal lovers
>didnt like this style
>first wave of jaded consumers hate the game
>games circulate into the system, friends borrow and family gfts
>suddenly people who played post launch loved the game

get ready for a fucking good game faggots, thats all

>>383113034
You say this like you're forced to use their options.

>>383118735
why are you saying all this as if you're only allowed to like one final fantasy game

>>383116351
you need new eyes

What jobs should you pick? Does it even matter really?

Beside esper tiles, characters can't effect each other's boards right?

Also how is the having two jobs going to work? Do you just get to switch between them freely? Or do you get both at the same time?

>>383120607
Oh yeah and is the spear meme fixed in this version of the game or is not using spears still a waste?

>people unironically liked final auto-attack XII
LOL

>>383114665

imagine the long time spent on this was to add in the cut content rather than the remastering of the ost

>>383111812
Zodiac was already too easy. Compared to the massive difficulty difference between the original and Zodiac this isn't likely to be much.

Just red pill me on this.
I've spent maybe a thousand hours overall in this game, last time I played it was emulating it in 4k.

>>383115280
I will and i have played vanilla and izjs

>That shitty fucking interface that looks like Square Enix told a Chinese intern "Hey, make something ugly in 1 day and we'll give you some Ramen"

WHY?! The game had such a beautiful looking interface in the original and now it looks like something you'd see in a mobile game or something. FUCK!

>>383123413
The easyness is compared to the vanilla version, When it was announced they kinda made a comparison between TZA (incluiding the IZJS changes because it never came out west) and Vanilla

>>383125094
What exactly is the problem ?