This is why we need diversity in gaming.

>>383109534
by diversity do you mean stronk independent black woman with afro?

>>383109534
>I hate white people

There's room for that racist behavior here, bigot.

>>383109534
I'm totally fine with brown/women protagonists if they're well written
because the majority of those white guys aren't

Fuck, Marry, Kill thread

>>383109534
It's almost like the people that make the games want the characters to look like the

Mind blowing eh?

>>383109846
>I'm totally fine with brown/women protagonists if they're well written
So essentially none of them? western devs use these character's "diversity" as their primary characteristic and forego any interesting traits with them hence why they're generally mary sues

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>>383109534
>I'll fight for diversity by being racist! That'll work!

>>383110369
Fuck Shepard, Kill Nathan Drake, Marry Chris Redfield

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>>383110439
Not always a good thing.

>>383109534
We need diversity, but we dont need black monkeys in videogames.

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But then all of the black characters end up looking the same. There's only so much you can do when designing a realistic human.

>>383110369
Fuck Frank West,
Marry Michael De Santa and get him away from Los Santos
Kill Isaac Clarke; I mean he's suffered enough

>>383110369
Fuck Shepard, Marry Snake, Kill Joel

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>>383109534
>yfw "more diversity" exclusively means more blacks

>Majority of gamers are 18-32, single, white, with a large amount of disposable income
>People continue to act surprised about 20-30yr old white male protags, with a bit of stubble or a short beard, who are likely American because many people watch American movies
>Also surprised that we continue to see horrible DLC practices and slot-machine type microtransactions due to 'whale' customers, who have all this disposable income to sink into their favourite vidya
>Further surprised by how popular TnA is to all these straight male gamers

I'm not complaining, I like being pandered to. I'll still play who the fuck ever if they're cool or characterized well. New Lara for instance doesn't fuck about and kills dudes constantly, acts like a proper no-nonsense survivor in Rise compared to the pansy-ass she was in the first reboot.

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>>383109534
So when are we getting it?

>>383110780
Exactly. We should go back to stylized humans, animals, robots, and whatever else

>>383109534
Can you name them all /v/? Are you a TRUE gaymer?

>>383109534
Not enough blonds

>>383109534
All game protagonists should be create-a-character.

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>>383109534
They're all so dreamy!

>>383109534
>game made by 99% white males has a white male protagonist
>this is somehow viewed as racist
If you want diversity, make your own game you. Trying to control what someone else does with their own project to suit your wants and needs is disgusting

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>>383109534
>white people make white games

Why is neogaf so stupid? Can someone explain this to me?

>>383109534
kill yourself OP
videogames need to be videogames
end of the story

>>383112031
Whenever I see reaction images like this, I imagine an ugly, sloppy, unkempt neckbeard behind the post.

>>383112178
Nobody views it as racist, you insecure little faggot. It's just that others take note of this and genuinely want to add some variation for multiple reasons. You don't have to have white people to have a non-white protagonist.

Why is Shepard made for fucking?

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>>383109534
Why did this person pick Alex Denton instead of Adam Jensen for this "generic white males in vidya" pic?

>>383112420
>have to *hate

>>383110369
Kill ALL straight white cis males NOW

>>383109534
Some different hair colors would be nice.

>>383111042
All black casts and all female casts are hella diverse.

The white race is the most diverse one we have more than one hair and eye color and many face shapes no other races compare. You can hardly tell an indian from a mexican

racist against blonds

>>383112420
But anon, they do. Haven't you seen the ridiculous amounts of tumblr posts that bleed into real world media about how racist the game industry is for having a majority of white, male protagonists?
I couldn't give less of a shit what the protagonist looks like, that's the point here. Caring so much about the race of a protagonist is racist in itself, but we already knew that those crying out about this are incredibly racist towards white people.

>others take note of this and genuinely want to add some variation
The thing is that those calling for the variation are not the people who buy games, they just want something to complain about. We've seen this happen time and time again. Catering to the SJW crowd who don't actually play or purchase games simply to appease them never equals more sales because they are not the majority audience by a long shot.

>fragile white males coming out the wordwork

lmao

>>383109534

We don't "need" anything in vidya beyond good vidya.

>>383109534
This represents the average (((white))) american.

>>383109534
If people want diversity in games they should make their own games wich represents their demographic instead of being egoistical pieces of shit and forcing others to acommodate them.

>>383109534
Don't tell us, tell the ultra timid investors who won't fund anything but "man with gun in green/grey and brown color pallet" games anymore

>>383109534
What's wrong with that picture?

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>>383109534

>product represents the overwhelming majority of it's consumers

>>383109534
They could chuck an actual white person with brown/blonde hair and white skin in for once, instead of all these jews.

>>383112894
Most of them in the op clearly aren't jews

>>383109534
>oh no one of the characters in a call of duty game was a white male
lol

>>383113137
Not him but Joel and snake are the only ones there i would comfortably say dont look jewish.

Lol I love how the GTA 5 dude is in there when one of the main characters is black

At least OP didn't call them well-known, I barely managed to half guess who like 7 of them are, and I am pretty sure I guessed a lot wrong

>>383109534
Go back to neogaf you fucking idiot, video games just need to be video games.

>>383113241
The ones you think are jews are probably just irish if the nose is throwing you off

>>383112287
Silly anon, I'm really a cute girl (male)!

:3

>>383109534

>basically not a single blonde dude

WTF

>>383109534
That's probably the biggest cherry-picking list i've seen.
Almost 100% was intended to be a troll.
>Ride to Hell protag
>Watch Dogs protag is fucking Irish, a minority
>they all at least have different face structure/hair/beard etc.
>meanwhile current "diversity" is an older black woman with afro and big earrings
You can seriously fuck off with this bullshit post.
Not to mention white male is the biggest audience for games, no matter you hard you people from Reddit and NeoGAF try to deny.

>>383113506
Im irish and no they dont look irish, not even remotely black irish.

>>383109534
>>383110369
Fuck 1st and 2nd row
Kill 3rd and 4th row
Marry 5th and 6th row

>>383109534
T. Neo gaf fag

Fine, chuck a few blondes in games then so we know its genuinely that you're bored of the same and not just that you hate white people.

>>383109534
replacing any of those with a nigger or a woman won't fix shitty writing and character design
there is less than a handful of characters on that list that are good

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>>383109534
>>383111042

>>383109534
We need more little girls

>>383109534
Stop playing games with male leads, problem solved.

And you do realize that the majority of gamers are white dudes and that they refuse to play as anything they can't identify with for the most part so this is why all main characters are bland white guys.

>>383111042
Where are the Asian, Hispanic , and middle eastern protagonist

>>383110369
>fuck Chris, Nathan, and Joel
>marry Big Boss
>kill OP

>>383113809
this never happens

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>>383113990
Someone post the collage to BTFO this shill

>>383114084
im not a shill you fag i'm just saying that pic never happens. doesn't mean i disagree with it

>>383112690
The ones running the 711 are Indian...the ones robbing the 711 are Mexican.

FUCK

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Reminder that /pol/ crowd suffers from eyesight condition which makes them see black people as horrifying monsters. So you may guess how it shocks and pains them when developers add black people to games.
Every game should have an option for negrophobic people to turn black characters into white one.

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>>383113990
Here's your (you) you wanted so badly

>>383112776
>But anon, they do. Haven't you seen the ridiculous amounts of tumblr posts that bleed into real world media about how racist the game industry is for having a majority of white, male protagonists?
So, because Tumblrtards exist, as a small minority in the grand scheme of things I'll remind you, diversity and genuine call for it can't?
>I couldn't give less of a shit what the protagonist looks like, that's the point here. Caring so much about the race of a protagonist is racist in itself, but we already knew that those crying out about this are incredibly racist towards white people.
That's bullshit. You guys can't accept the fact that a character can be arbitrarily a PoC just as whites can without there being some kind of hidden agenda to bring down the white man? This is a mentality that attempts to secure whites as the dominant face in media. It's "do what has always been the norm or you're actually the racist!" Nobody has had to justify white characters in the history of vidya, why does one require an explanation to appease you for having a PoC? That's fucked thinking, man. Are there tards who do it simply out of fear of SJW backlash? Sure! But to equate any attempt at diversity as opposition to whites is incredibly childish and defensive. Nobody questions the motives behind having Character X as a white man, but hoops need to jumped through in order to soothe the rage you guys have at the sight of a brown character
>The thing is that those calling for the variation are not the people who buy games, they just want something to complain about. We've seen this happen time and time again. Catering to the SJW crowd who don't actually play or purchase games simply to appease them never equals more sales because they are not the majority audience by a long shot
I'm black, I've always played games, and it's nice to see someone who looks like me sometime in my fav hobby. What's the problem with that? This is literally just a case of boogeyman syndrome.

>>383114258
I mean she is ugly as fuck not to mention a shitty villain

>>383114214
Its a collection of major films reviewers all praising an all black film cast for diversity.

>>383114389
Anon it's ok to be gay, but you shouldn't give comments on women appearance then

>>383114426
i specifically meant the german, russian, icelander, spaniard, norweigian etc etc being all in one game/movie/show etc never happening but yes the all black casts being "diverse" part does actually happen

>>383114258
Her issue isnt being black or female in itself, she was just an awful addition to the game. A villain who you are forced to lose to, who is more unlikeable than the main villain and then who just says bye at the end and you never get to beat. Its just frustrating like someone slapping you in the face and then running away.

>>383114446
Yes not finding a masculine female attractive is gay

>>383114312
Games are usually made by white men by white male teams in white countries. No-one here would think twice if an african studio with african men produced games with entirely african male protags. Aren't you embarrassed you have to ask us to make your culture for you.

>>383113903
Nobody (Americans) don't want to be play as filthy Japs, illegal immigrants or terrorists.

Itd be cool if they used this diversity business to make a new NBA street game

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>>383111042
>>383113809

>mfw /pol/ is spamming /v/ again

>>383114596
Which is saying something because Rafe is also a shit villain

>>383109534
Needs more blonde characters

>>383109534
>This is why we need diversity in gaming.
>someone spent all this time to make the point that predominantly white cultures make media predominantly about themselves

And then you wonder why sjws are the butt of jokes. You wouldn't dare say this to the Chinese or Japanese.
>there's too much whitey!
Racist piece of shit. How does this shit fly?

>>383114745
*made for white men

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>>383114596
Yep and if she was white male /v/ would sing odes how it's the most badass character ever and literally did nothing wrong

>>383114758
Rafe wasnt really a villain, he put in all the work, legal operations and even hired the drakes but then because they had brotherly emotions and rafe was rich they were entitled to kill his staff and steal his treasure.

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>>383109534
i will leave this here so these threads will not need to be created anymore

>>383114824
Nah Rafe was also shit

>>383114757
Do you see anyone spamming this thread with posts about how we need to go 1488 and gas the Jews?

>>383114824
you can kill him and he goes down easy

>>383114824
Really no.

>>383109534
what we need is to let people make the games they want to make. you dont tell a chef how to cook food, or a painter how to paint. dont like it? dont play it

>>383114824
but letho is a badass and he did do nothin wrong

>>383114946
I just don't see why he didn't hire Nathan again

>>383115065
> Telling the authoritarian left to let people do what they want and expecting anything other than lip service

They dont want to play as black people in games. They want YOU to have to play as more black people in games.

>>383115119
It was pretty obvious nathan would just run away with the treasure at the end but more accurately just bad writing.

>>383115065
Video game companies want to expand their audiences, which now predominantly consist of 30 something white males for AAA games. If they won't do this, video game will degenerate in same way anime did, where you can't just mention that you watch japanese cartoons in public anymore because everyone will think you are pedo who watches cartoons about tentacles raping little girls.

>>383114824

But you get to murder the fuck out of Letho.

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Just look at all this diversity.

>>383115371
It would really help with in game justification for using water as map boundaries.

>>383115065
Those are pretty shitty examples considering you do in fact tell chefs what/how to cook and painters what/how to paint typically. How often do you go into a restaurant and say "gimme whatever senpai you're the chef" or contract a painter and say "just fuck my wall up with a mural or whatever it's not my business?"

>>383115294
Definitely terrible writing

>>383115298
Watching anime is more acceptable than ever in the states though?

>>383115842
Sounds true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6kQiFw2co8

>>383114952
What is this? Sensible rationale? About video games? Get this shit out of here!

>>383114745
What?

Firstly, this isn't a matter of culture, it's just people putting the characters they want in a fucking game. You, and people like you, are the ones making it a more grandiose issue of race, just like your Tumblr counterparts.

Secondly, are you implying that any material created by someone must be representative of said persons race? Like there has never been an author who depicted a protagonist as anything other than his or her's own race. Do you not realize how stupid you sound? What makes video game developers any different? Not everything is a racial competition, some people genuinely enjoy exploring different backgrounds and perspectives. Hell, some just do it arbitrarily, that's been the case with all these white vidya protags since forever. Who are you to berate anyone over it?

Maybe you should just admit that you're a supremacist and stop being a pussy about it. It's very obvious.

>>383109534
Wow it's as if the main people who play video games are white dudes.

>>383114757
The ones you replied to are literally true, though. Back 2 reddit.

>>383114952
So now the generic look is considered offensive. All I ever see from all this nonsense are people being racist while desperately trying not to be racist.

>>383116087
Not him but I'm guessing he means that since most western games are made by white men that a white male mc will most likely be the default

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>>383116117
>white dudes

>>383116087
As a white male I would -never- create something with a non-white protag, I can't imagine how much I'd get shit on for not doing the protag's culture justice or something. Damned if you do etc.

>>383116393
Yeah, I get that. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a white creator making his protagonist white, I'm just defending the act of a white creator DARING to include people of color.

>>383116596
You're overreacting. Don't let this stupid tug of war with alt-right assholes here and tumblrtards with vidya misguide you. It's never that serious. You don't have to have a degree in African-American studies to depict a black person in media. You're pretty much fine as long as you don't make him a fucking minstrel character. It's nothing new. People do it all the time. You guys really need to get out more and step out of your comfort zones.

>>383117032
The black girl isn't even Mary Jane. You've been brainwashed here, you dolt.

>>383117032
Why was this deleted?

>>383110369
fuck aiden and jason
marry ethan and snake
kill michael, shepard, and issac

dunno know the rest besides from frank, joel, that other dude from heavy rain, and the dude from just cause

>>383117657
Cause he realized he's a fool.

>>383117297
I guess it's really because they usually hamfist these characters in the game but it's usually with women and LGBT characters. In a game like Sleeping Dogs it makes sense for the main character to be Asian but in a game like Mafia making the character black is kind of weird. Also now that I think about it games are diverse because there are a shit ton of Asian characters

>>383111363
so that's what diversity looks like

>>383117736
Kek

>>383116087
> culture
> race
> culture
> race
> ad hominem

Wew lad. This was a car crash.

Most of these faces are easily distinguishable and memorable.

>>383111363

Are any of those even a playable character?

>>383109534
>had to cherrypick so hard that you had to include several characters from the same game and even some obscure side characters

Pathetic.

>>383118092
Nice rebuttal. Easier to slink back in the shadows without exposing yourself as more of a fool this way.

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>>383109534
what a shit bait OP
you put the same characters multiple times, sometimes even next to eachother you retarded faggot

>>383109534
>Chris Redfield
>Same game as Sheva who was a black female primary protag
>"This is why we need diversity in gaming."
Fuck off

>>383118698
I wasnt remotely who you were arguing with, i just thought id share the headache received when reading your incoherent mess of a post.

>>383118729

you may actually be retarded

>>383118801
My post is fine. All I did was address the stupid shit that the anon I replied to brought up. He's the idiot who made culture and race an issue. Your quarrel is with him, retard.

Regardless, why not clarify what your issues are? Or are you just providing some quick and easy support for a fellow idiot?

>>383114824
>you get to kill Letho at the end or let him go
>he never considers you an enemy and even spares your life
>he actually saves Triss at the end for you if you don't do it yourself
Letho did nothing wrong. He is much cooler than that black cunt.

>>383109534
>no Niko
I'm impressed. Usually clueless idiots put him on despite him being an immigrant.

>>383119018
He didnt mention culture at all, he made a reasonable point that a class of people making games for the same class of people in the nation of that class are right to make their characters that class.

Just the same as noone would care if an chinese studio churned out chinese protags.

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More diversity in terms of stuff like settings themes would be good.

If, say, instead of having a black or mexican, or gay people shoehorned in, we actually had a game about african myhology, or set in the aztec empire, or explored actual themes about society's expectations of sexuality, that would be cool.

But SJW's don't want that, they just want to shove minorities poorly without changing anything else and wash their hands of the matter and circlejerk over how progressive they are being. Pic related

>>383110439
Moreso, being mostly white men they cannot create realistic non-white experience, so they do not disrespect people of other ethnicities by making half-assed attempts at it.

>>383120168
Of course they can, unless you're suggesting that there are inalienable differences between the races and as such racism is valid.

>>383120467
Anon's saying that it's a huge can of worms for a white guy to try to represent a different race/culture

>>383119420
>He didnt mention culture at all
>"Aren't you embarrassed you have to ask us to make your culture for you?"

>he made a reasonable point that a class of people making games for the same class of people in the nation of that class are right to make their characters that class.
It isn't a matter of right or wrong. Sure, there's nothing wrong with an Australian making a game full of Aussies. There's also nothing wrong with said Australian including aboriginals, lesbians, or germans. You seem to have a very immature and racist attitude about something as trivial as vidya. Like the other anon, you seem to take this as a 'tribal issue'. Thing is, not everyone sees it like that and think nothing of a white including non-whites. Fine if you do, fine if you don't. I don't get your confusion on this. Nobody is demanding or obligating anyone to include anything, and if they do, they should be treated as an idiot just as you.

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>>383119705

That's because it's not about making something good. It's about destroying things people care about.

They don't want the *baby*, they just want to make sure no one else gets it.

https://en.wikipedia.orgwikiJudgment_of_Solomon

>>383110369
fuck max payne
marry frank woods
kill chris

>>383118092
You're obvious just mad because your fellow racist got told.

Why should we care what niggers think?

>>383114757
>Pipboy

>>383119420
>he made a reasonable point
Lol
>that a class of people making games for the same class of people in the nation of that class are right to make their characters that class.
I'm sorry, so are you trying to say that if a white dev makes a game, he's making it for whites? You're a fucking retard, son.

>>383109534

the fuck? You take The Punisher out of there! Just 'cause he had like one game more than 10 years ago doesn't mean shit. He is first and foremost a comic book character and therefore doesn't belong in this thread.

It's white genocide my fellow kekbros!! How do we send a message to these nukikecuckkeksjwwomen?!! Shadilay brothers

>>383120654
Culture was mentioned in an entirely different manner to your use, entirely different.

This whole thread is about people demanding things from white studios in white nations. What is tribal is minorities identifying with their ancestry rather than the nation that let them in to the extent they need the white majority to represent them in games.

>>383121301
We don't buy their shitty forced diversity games.

>>383121229
> games developers in white nations
> majority of population is white
> target audience overwhelmingly white
> not making games for whites

This is a hard one

>>383121353
But how do we do something outside our basements? I have le crippling anxiety so somebody else has to 1488

>>383109534
I can name like 6 of them. Am I a casual?

>>383121428
Did you not read his post? Baiting fucking atrociously if you dont even adapt it to responses, jesus christ.

>>383121428
Cry ourselves to sleep every night because IT WAS HER TURN

BLONALD "TWO SCOOPS" DRUMPH IS NOT MY PRESIDENT

>>383109534
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>>383114258

>>383121694
wtf I love ANTIFA now

I remember when /v/ constantly complained about the gruff space marine look when new games were announced. Why are you guys now complaining about variety?

>>383114824
>

>>383121621
Bro he replied to a bait post you know, lmao

>>383121694
The original pic was dumb as hell but for the life of me i don't know what you're trying to convey.

>>383114258
If the girl looked like the one on the right I would buy the game right now.

>>383109534

Correct.

The Video Game industry is the most racist and sexist entertainment medium by far.

We need more diverse representation taken into consideration during development. More visibility for LGBTQ and Minority Ethnic groups. This is 2017.

>>383121787
> two options are space marine or black woman
Wew lad

>>383109534
Unironicallly jewish media influence would never allow an actual white blonde male to be a protagonist so this is as far as they can go whilst still appealling to the market.

>>383121628
t. """"""crippling social anxiety""""""

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>>383121851
The original pic was made for fun, some retard butthurt try to change a caricature in a /pol/ argument with "altright imbecil" and bait screencap no sense.

>>383122139
Not him but im a doctor who follows /pol/. You cant breed a climate where you lose everything for speaking out "unacceptable views" and so your only vocal opponents are down and outs, and then claim that only losers oppose you.

Well you can but it's hilariously wrong. I'll just keep being silent and donating to causes.

>>383122173
/pol/ here

that would actually be a far more interesting character design then the exact same "70s blacksploitation sassy afro nigress" copy and pasted over and over again.

>>383119420
>class
>class
>class
Also, talk about a car crash of a post...

>>383121306
>Culture was mentioned in an entirely different manner to your use, entirely different.
How so? He said it in regard of representation in vidya, that's what we're discussing, no? Feels like you're really stretching to make points for the sake of saving face here.

>This whole thread is about people demanding things from white studios in white nations.
Well, you're talking to me, and I've said nothing about that advocated for it. You're obviously festering with anger from deeper seated issues you have. Don't project your butthurt onto me. I've said nothing of the sorts.
>What is tribal is minorities identifying with their ancestry rather than the nation that let them in to the extent they need the white majority to represent them in games
Yeah, this is obviously about more than video games for you. Nobody is audaciously 'demanding' representation but SJW. At the same time, there's nothing wrong with wanting more diversity or supplying it. You can do this without declaring war on white representation, that's the point I'm making. You honestly sound like an old racist white grandpa lecturing kids in his armchair right now. Gather more context before posting next time you run to the aid of one of your little buddies.

>>383109534
Why the fuck do I need diversity? The largest consumer market for games are hetero sexual white males between 14 and 35 years old, women and gays are only maybe 1% of the whole consumer market in terms of games, blacks maybe a little bit more but even then way less than 10%.

I don't need fucking diversity for the sake of diversity, I need good games with well written plots.

>>383122389
I mean did you really not get anything there? Ill let you try again, honestly.

>>383121412
Maybe devs make video games simply for people who play video games? Why are you injecting race into something so simple?

>>383122393

That is simply not true.

There should be an even split of male and female characters in video games, that is true representation.

We also need to give visibility to LGBTQ and ethnic groups.

It's called being progressive.

>>383122292
>doctor
Not with that grammar you're not. Any person worth his salt and is in med school would definitely not spend his time on 4chan.
and I see you got triggered by the crippling social anxiety. Did it hit too close to home perhaps? :3

>>383122393
Well blacks play NBA and FIFA depending on country, both games have according representation. Blacks in the wider gaming market will be much less than 10%.

No-one here complains about the NBA cover being 3 africans, yet its not ok with white games for white people.

>>383122484
You've made zero points. All you've done is complain about minorities, grandpa. Why are you so confused? Did you not take your medicine?

>>383122602
Umm, no, sweetie. Would you like to try again? It's okay, take your time.

>>383110369
Fuck and marry top left guy
Kill everything else

>>383122517
A white dev, making a game for a white market in a white country would default make white characters even without appeal to the financial sense. To make ethnic characters would be such a jarring step that that is what is introducing race issues to the scene.

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>>383109534

>>383109534
Also why season 2 of The Wire is the best. I simply cannot relate to the plight of ooga boogas.

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The argument for diversity is that it allows non-whites to identify with games/media more easily.

So why should I support it?

The fact is, all other things being equal, I identify far more with a white character than I do a non-white character.

What's in it for me to support non-whites in this sense? That's right. Nothing. Same as mass immigration.

>>383122173
How's your eggs are doing, /pol/?

>>383122557
Because i put 'and' after a comma? Thats acceptable, only high school teaches otherwise, read a book.

Plus you dont just grow out of 4chan. Im married and /fit/ but still phone posting most of my downtime.

>>383121787
Those aren't gruff space marines. They're white guys with a weathered, handsome look.

It's actually good design. Asides from Nathan Drake, those types of white characters don't look necessarily -too- handsome or too outlandish, so I can relate to them very easily, as well as respect them as they're genuinely masculine characters.

>>383109534
Where are all the red head male protagonists?

>>383122780
Your punctuation and grammar are awful, doctor.

>>383122602
I quite literally meant you response didnt really fit, you didnt understand any of the points. I wasnt having a go.

Like saying reptition of using class to abstract out the argument was akin to me demonstrating your muddling of terms to obfuscate your argument at the start.

>>383122637
Ah, I see you don't have any more gas in the tank and this is your silly way of conceding yet preserving pride. Not like you've said anything substantial to the topic at hand anyways.

Off with you now. Lick your wounds to /pol/ another day, son.

there is no le sjw bogeyman, video game companies know their target audience and they want to provoke these people. talking about a game, even in bad light, gives it exposure and exposure is good for any product.

>>383122835
They aren't at all but regardless it wont shock you that none of that has a bearing on my job.

>>383109534
nope

>>383122780
>he doesn't even know the error
Read a book.
Also, you clearly are doing something wrong if you're still here. Even moot left.

>>383122758
You are /pol/, you bring /pol/ with shitty politics argument when is not necessary, stay butthurt for a pic made for fun.

>>383122842
Nothing incoherent about what I've said. Have you humored the possibility that you're just simply confused? I mean that genuinely.

>>383122723
I'm pretty sure that most nignogs prefer to play as white characters as well. ESPECIALLY when it fits the setting.

If the game is set during medival times and you're playing a Knight. How would being a nignog make sense?

The problem isn't diversity. It's the forced diversity that we're seeing. Blacks just shoved in wherever possible.

>>383122904
Forget about that idiot, if his opinion is that upper middle class professional acceptability is what determines the veracity of an idea, then it makes no sense by definition. Consider the difference between what an upper middle class German in the 1930s believed and an upper middle class Russian in the 1960s believed to what an upper middle class American in the 2010s believes.

It's just an appeal to the status quo.

>>383122863
>there is no le sjw bogeyman, video game companies know their target audience
i love kikes

>>383123046
knowing who you are making your products for is essential for any company to survive. do you honestly think that the marketing team wouldn't know about reddit, 4chan or any other website containing edgy teenagers?

>>383122980
Yeah, there are occasions where non-white characters make sense, contextually I mean.

What you're referring to is the contrived approach of making everything a pick-and-mix multiracial united colors of benetton ad, even in some analog for middle ages Europe. It's jarring. I'd say the same thing if you were playing a wuxia game which is obviously an analog for Ancient China, and every second and third silk-robe wearing, goatee stroking characters were white and black for some bizarre reason.

Even in modern day America and Western Europe, self-segregation is a matter of course. Look at people's friendship groups after they pass 25.

>>383122951
/pol/ is unironically one of the best news sources still around and /fit/ is good fun. It's a useful website.

But dont worry, i hope making up fictitious grammar errors makes you somehow feel adequate?

>>383110542
>>383109829
How the fuck is this racist? OP literally just posted a bunch of game protagonists that look similar. I love how all of you stupid faglings cry about your racism when someone asks "hey can we not Nathan Drake clone #573" when you have retards like >>383110767 being actually racist

>>383122978
You just mimicked an argument but in doing so demonstrated you had no idea what the criticism was about.

>>383123180
You realize shouting racist around here is just embarrassing?

>>383112913
>>383112178

And yet people are making their own games.

The games you autismos are screeching about being "SJW" because all the characters don't look and act like the ones in OP's image.

>>383123134

devs and marketers aren't profit-maximizing robots, they are people with values and political beliefs that inform their work

>>383123173
If you blend out all the racist stuff at least half of the things that posted on pol are actual news, so yeah, if you have other news sites open /pol/ is not the worst one.

>>383123173
>/pol/ is one of the best news sources
I'm surprised you became a doctor before reaching 18 years of age.

>>383123000
>his opinion is that
Stop putting words in my mouth. I was just ragging on the doctor for his poor English.

>>383123273
And yet you're not calling out the fragile manchildren who were crying it in the first place.

It's almost like I'm right or something.

>neo /v/
>i hate how games are all gray and boring looking, but i'll defend them having characters who all look exactly the same

>>383123171
>Even in modern day America and Western Europe, self-segregation is a matter of course. Look at people's friendship groups after they pass 25
Got a source to back that up or you just projecting

>>383123173
>/pol/ is unironically one of the best news sources still around
How is a board that's known for making fake images to rile people up and indoctrinate them one of the best new sources around? How can /pol/ whine and cry about fake news stories then turn around and do the exact same thing?

>>383123337
Exactly and by committee they put in a lot of work finding the truth behind the news. You get quick at avoiding the conspiracies and meme posts. Its now where i go first after i hear of a big event.

>>383123379
Yet you still haven't put forward what he said wrong, which was nothing. Very curious and bitter.

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But the men in OPs collab are pretty diverse. If it's supposed to imply that they're all "white men who look the same", it would still be wrong because most of those men are clearly not *white*. Also, I don't know most of those games, but that collab also includes Alex Denton from Deus Ex: Invisible War, and you can choose the main character from man or woman.

>>383109534
>20% of these look like short-haired Vinny but without the hat

>>383123407
> fragile manchildren
Oops you outed yourself!

>>383123460
>Got a source to back that up or you just projecting

It's in a book about the sociology of college life called "No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal" by Espenshade, as you can tell for the title, Espenshade is a liberal and for him this self-segregation is a negative.

Some other sources, about neighborhood demographics:

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2015/06/its-mostly-white-people-who-prefer-to-live-in-segregated-neighborhoods/396887/

And about friendship groups again:

www.econ.ucla.edu/lboustan/research_pdfs/research13_handbook.pdf

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>>383112178
>>383112913
who says it's racist? diversity doesn't always mean it has to do with race.
it can simply mean diversity in art direction
pic unrelated

>>383123317
yes, they are individuals. but they want to maximize profits for the company they're working for. they keep their individual self out of the worklife because any controversy could hurt the company.

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>>383123503
>imageboard has memes and meme pictures

No way?!

Not everybody believes everything they see online, stop projecting. /pol/ards know when something is joke news and when it's for real.

>>383123503
>>383123510
It's not that there isnt a huge amount of junk. It's that its the only place there wont be a limit or censorship to whats reported. If there's information to be found it will be found there so long as you put in the work.

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>>383123460
>He actually believes white people don't have an in-group preference like everyone else does

Do you even leave your house?

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>>383123704
Bullshit. Most of the redditor newfags on your board fall under pic related. You idiots will believe anything as long as it justifies your narrative. I'd say you're just a gullible and shitty as liberals on reddit but I'd get that shitty strawman MSpaint image thrown at me in place of an actual argument.

>>383123435
srs bznz FPS taking place in the modern world are likely to have these characters, and it makes sense

>>383118971
don't blame him for getting people who look exactly the same confused

>>383123829
Back to /jp/ nigger. Fuck Touhou.

>>383123565
Are you illiterate? Do I really need to point out the obvious?
>awful sentence structure
>seemingly hasn't heard of an apostrophe
>uses single and double quotes interchangeably
>commas in random places where periods or semicolons should be
>no commas where there should be a pause

>>383123818
Can't you tell from his post that he's most likely a nigger? Clearly his "gang" has one white guy and that's why he doesn't believe you.

Go to any fucking city and you will see the colours matching most of the time. Whites with whites, asians with asians, etc.

>>383123843
>srs bznz FPS taking place in the modern world are likely to have these characters, and it makes sense
why does it need to be that way? i'd prefer a faceless protagonist like Master Chief over this

>>383109534
So why? I don't see a reason here.

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>>383114258
You bodyshaming bro?

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This place is turning more tumblr every single day.

>>383123937
Too bad, they replaced Master Chief with an AYO HOL UP character anyway.

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>>383122980
This. Everybody loves characters like CJ from San Andreas because he's a cool character and fits in the setting. What people don't like is the shoehorned token negro characters hip hopping in the background for the sake of """representation""". It's phony and fake.

>>383123818
>>383123902
Being white, my best friends are chinese and white and my girlfriend is black. Maybe y'all are just racist, projecting shitheads?

>>383114446
Heterosexual black man here. That chick is fugly. She looks like a man.

>>383124014
I want black gf too. But here in Russia there is no blacks at all.

>>383124014
>Maybe y'all are just racist, projecting shitheads

Yeah sure thing, hypocrite. Just because you're mentally ill doesn't mean the average person is. I'd bet money that his black girlfriend doesn't become his black wife and he's just getting his rocks off.

>>383124014
So you're arguments is you have a fetish for monkeys? Dude, most people don't like fucking animals. Hard to believe. Yes, I know.

>>383124014
>Maybe y'all are just racist

If having an in-group preference is racism, then the entire world is racist.

You're fighting against one of the most normal instincts among mankind: Birds of a feather flocking together.

>>383123886
None relevant to his first post. Bravo. Talk about being this insecure.

>>383124203
>>383124116
>>383124014
WHO'S BAITING WHO!?

>>383124014
lol notice how it's only whites who get tarred with this brush for preferring their own.

It's perfectly acceptable for asians and blacks to form their own social bubbles. It's almost expected for asians. Praise Fu Manchu etc.

>>383124014
Holy kek. This explains a lot. Too fucking ugly to get a white girlfriend. Autistic enough to have a chinese best friend.

>>383123843
>srs bznz FPS taking place in the modern world are likely to have these characters, and it makes sense
you forget these worlds are fictional, they can have anything

>>383124235
Literally all relevant to his first post. You are retarded.

>>383124280
are you replying to the poster or replying to liberals using that poster as a proxy because you feel you can't express yourself anywhere else

>>383124330
Give the breakdown then because currently you look like a fucking imbecile.

I recently saw some tumblr post about how Borderlands 2 is the best game ever because of the diverse cast of characters and representation of minorities. It made a long list describing how good it was to see black homos and lesbians, and how it was amazing that the game even had overweight characters that didn't make them comic reliefs for their fat bodies.

All that shit, but not a single word about the gameplay itself. I'm sure the game plays just fine, but that post about -best game ever- didn't mention a single word about the gameplay.

You could wave a stick in front of this audience and they would enjoy it as long as you claim that the stick is a transsexual.

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>>383124294
>Too fucking ugly to get a white girlfriend. Autistic enough to have a chinese best friend.

too spot on

>>383124370
i say the game does get points for being diverse
but not diverse because different representation
but diverse for it's art style standing out among other AAAs

>>383124306
Why would you play as a ballerina in the last of us?

>>383124452
Cell shading is just a crutch for bad developers.

>>383124464
why not?

>>383124464
Ballerinas are a hangover from the patriarchy when women were expected to be dainty and graceful.

But dont worry, in The Last Of Us 2, ellie will be doing her own dancing up and down on some kang cock.

HOL UP

WEEEEEEEEEEE
WUZ MUTHAFUCKING KINGZ N SHIIIEEEETTT MA NIGGA
WEEEEEEEE
KANGZ N SHIIIEEEETTT HOO
WEEEEEHHEEEEEE
HOPE YOUS READY FO THA NEX EPISODE HEYEYHEYEY

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>game with white male protagonist flops
>probably just a shitty game
>game with non-white non-male protagonist flops
>evidence of racism and sexism in gaming

White men make the best characters because nobody goes allahu akbar or full media shitstorm about sexism when white men are shown in bad light. Hell, you can make a male character as shitty person as possible, and it would be just fine as long as he's a enjoyable character.

>>383124492
Klonoa 2 is a great game though.

>>383124492
gearbox is shit, but nothing is wrong with cel shading
it certainly leads to more unique art styles then striving to be realistic
JSR, BoTW, Borderlands, etc
all cel-shaded, all different

>>383124464
>why would you be something creative in a video game

I dunno anon

desu I love playing as super tough independent male protagonists (female)

>>383124369
>awful sentence structure
>You cant breed a climate where you lose everything for speaking out "unacceptable views" and so your only vocal opponents are down and outs, and then claim that only losers oppose you.

>seemingly hasn't heard of an apostrophe
>"im" "cant"

>uses single and double quotes interchangeably
>speaking out "unacceptable views"
>Because i put 'and' after a comma?

>commas in random places where periods or semicolons should be
>...so your only vocal opponents are down and outs, and then claim that only losers oppose you.

>no commas where there should be a pause
>Not him but im a doctor who follows /pol/.

Retard.

>>383109534
There's literally nothing wrong with this. Maybe if you're racist towards white people?

>>383124362
Funny how 4chan's resident libtards suddenly stop supporting liberal groupthink and policy when it becomes convenient, even though the DNC has routinely made overtures to things like intersectionality.

It's just a last ditch effort by idiots defending liberalism.

>>383124659
Yes but its only done by developers who know they dont have the capability to make realistic lighting and textures. See: gearbox, arcane, the darkness 2.

>>383124692
>There's literally nothing wrong with this. Maybe if you're racist towards white people?
>not the smartest race
>not the strongest race
>all the greatest inventors in the white race are gone and the current generation clings on to their success instead of creating their own
name one reason why white people deserve to be saved

You know I wouldn't mind more diverse characters in games but have it done right. Without a political agenda and hopefully not even making a big deal of it. Why is that so hard to ask for?

>>383124614
This is pretty true

>Play a game featuring a girl protagonist
>She is smart, strong and independent and always right
>She is able to fight several men bigger then her at hand to hand combat and win
>No real flaws

Is this what women actually want in games? Cause it's fucking miserable

>>383114258
You can color it white and it is still dumb looking. Same with the new OW hero. Make him white. Doesnt change the fact that the design is extremely boring.

>>383123297
I like how you were never responded to after this. It's like they knew they had no more opposition to throw and just gave up.

>>383124664
> No order to criticisms
> Doesnt stick to one post like explicitly asked
> Most are subjective complaints and not pointing out grammatical errors.

Thanks for playing

>>383124661
Well what i'm saying is the problem isn't the characters we play as, but the problem is the games we play.

>>383124771
creativity cam come from limitations
which is why it's always a shame when companies who have all the money in the world create uninspired drek

>>383114227

Precisely

>>383114258
Nadine is like the perfect example of a really badly written female character

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what are some games where i can play as a FEEEEEEEEEMALE with a most beautiful body?

>>383124790
Whites are the strongest race physically though.

>>383122676
This is it
>>383122723
>The argument for diversity is that it allows non-whites to identify with games/media more easily.
And a big [citation needed] for this claim.
Why do you need to "identify" with game characters?
Why would changing their race be the difference between identifying with them and not?
Why should companies do it?

>>383124370
sjw isnt interested in games
games are just basis for claim of their shitty equalism.

>>383124790
>saved
>deserve
>deserve
>deserve
>implying

>>383124929
umm no sweetie

>>383122723
>The argument for diversity is that it allows non-whites to identify with games/media more easily.
what about diversity in art direction?

>>383124790
Because they're people too you idiot

>>383125039
since when were morals important to anyone, especially whites

>>383109534
White male is the largest group in the gaming audience.

What are the problem with the image?

>>383109534
I like white men but they have a small dick, that's right fellas i'm a girl gamer and i post on /v/

>>383125005

Yes, and smartest.

>>383125006
What about you just put some fucking blacks in your game is it really that hard? God this thread is annoying. It makes no difference and makes a big difference to a lot of people TOTALLY left out so far.

>>383123503
>How can /pol/ whine and cry about fake news stories then turn around and do the exact same thing?
/pol/ isn't a multi-billion dollar news organization with White House press credentials

>>383111363
The BGaE2 girl is actually hot thou, she can stay.

>>383111042
This game is going to be shit, no one bought the first one anyways.

>>383125167
This

>>383125086
No one deserves anything.People will get what they take, and have what they secure.

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>playing a game about burly muhreen shooting aliens and terrorists
>in middle of firefight there's suddenly a cutscene
>one of the marines steps forward and says "I'm a homosexual", and then steps back
>cutscene ends, and it's back to the firefight
>mfw

Is this what people want?

>>383125208
But blacks deserve more gibs.

>>383123503
its funny

>>383125110
TITS OR GTFO!

>>383124370
>I recently saw some tumblr post about how Borderlands 2 is the best game ever because of the diverse cast of characters and representation of minorities. It made a long list describing how good it was to see black homos and lesbians, and how it was amazing that the game even had overweight characters that didn't make them comic reliefs for their fat bodies.
...Did it? I don't remember any of that. I remember the forced gay English cripple who just had to throw in he was gay for no reason whatsoever but otherwise everyone was just normal.

>>383125269
"sorry my face is tired"

>>383123503

Nobody goes on /pol/ with the pretense that what's being posted is "news'.

But since the MSM has been 100% compromised, there are are least some threads on /pol/ that contain actual information, between all the interracial pornography and "POL BTFO" threads.

>>383124614
Guybrush is a pretty competent character tho, a recurring theme in Monkey Island is the people around Guybrush taking advantage of him and screwing him up. That said he still has real human flaws. MI is a very intriguing series, I always manage to find parallels with MGS for some reason.

>>383114824
Consider the following:
> you can actually FIGHT Letho both times and win
> you can choose how to seal his fate
> you can identify with his motives and understand him.
> he's not even the bad guy and all the people he killed are oppressing monarchs.
> he also saved your love interest

Letho is just a good character. He could come from The Witcher School of the Shariah for all I care.

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>>383118729

>>383125463
I think Guybrush is a great character, he's the kind of doofus we all are, but he's like that full time. The point is still that if Guybrush was a woman, she would be hailed as sexist writing.

>>383124926

literally 13yo chubby boy tits

Let's all think for a moment. Do any of you really care about this? Does it really matter?

Uh since most people don't try to kill me everyday. Most people are inherently good. I'm tired of you morons making things worse and blaming THE WHITE MAN for all of our shitty personal failures. How about instead of being a faggot who believes in an boogie man you take some responsibility and control over your shit lives. You didn't even need to deal with actual racism. You can talk about racial oppression when you get sprayed with a goddamn firehose for just sitting in an restaurant.

>>383124790
>all the greatest inventors in the white race are gone and the current generation clings on to their success instead of creating their own
Nigger technology is advancing like never before. Just because you only hear the names of Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Musk doesn't mean white inventors aren't creating marvelous new shit constantly.

Why can't any of you on the opposite side of the fence see that this is about having fun? More diversity in games makes them more accessible and fun for people that have always played these games but could enjoy them more if they saw themselves in some of the characters, like I dunno most white gamers do with a majority of the games they play? How is this bad? We're just letting everyone have their opportunity to have fun.

we have no problem if only black and yellow have died out.

>>383125652
>>383125086

>>383111363
>let's throw a nigress in with a fro, that's pretty diverse!

>>383114824
Its still a woman overpowering a man.If a black man was the villain of uncharted, and he wrecked nathan's shit no one would care.

>>383125167
It was a nice little video game but I'm definitely not buying this sequel because it's infested with political bullshit.

>>383125667
Because fun is being drained. Games are seen as a platform for lecturing now, especially incorrect damaging moral lecturing. All sexuality is removed from games, i cant remember the last game i played with an even passingly attractive female lead.

Interesting and unique stories are suppressed and shut down because they dont agree with the zeitgeist dictated by anita and the like.

Gaming is just worse now. It needs some soul again.

>>383125634
It's really not a big deal, but these supposedly thick skinned anons get triggered at the very idea of their videogames being changed or tampered with in any way. They could give a fuck about if the game is good or not structurally, just make sure the main characters look the same, i.e white and there are no issues.

>>383109534
If your character is a white male you can do anything you want with him. Make him a coward, sociopath, overall a terrible person etc. Do that with a woman or a minority and you get shit on for being racist and misogynist and whatever.

>>383125634
Good question. Why do leftists care about it? Answering this question turns you into a conservative.

>>383109534
>primary videogame demographic is straight white males
>most video games pander to straight white males
Really fires my neurons.

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>>383125667
People play vidya for the adventure and challenge, not to be preached about social justice issues.

>>383125667
>More diversity in games makes them more accessible and fun for people that have always played these games but could enjoy them more if they saw themselves in some of the characters

That's not why random niggerfaggots are being shoved in incredibly out of way places into games.

It's because certain (((people))) are treating video games as another vector for their shitty SJW propaganda, which directly deteriorates the quality of said game.

The issue isn't including "minorities" in games. There have always been "minorities" in games. It's pushing shitty "minority" characters into games because of a political agenda which is the problem.

>>383109534
alan wake
booker
nathan drake
jack from bioshock
guy from last of us
guy from gta V
punisher
guy from one of the shitty western silent hill games
max payne
snake
shepard

wew i dont recognize any of the other guys

>>383121621
BRAISE KEK

>>383125910
Then, argue about that bigger issue. Barking up this particular tree as a platform to despite politics in gaming is retarded and counter intuitive. You will always be in the wrong, you will always come across as racist, bigoted and conservative.

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>>383125667
>More diversity in games makes them more accessible
[Citation needed]
>and fun
[Citation needed]
>for people that have always played these games but could enjoy them more if they saw themselves in some of the characters
[Citation needed]
>like I dunno most white gamers do
[Citation needed]
>with a majority of the games they play?
[Citation needed]

/v/ isn't buying your leftist bullshit.

>>383126195
Your response summarised everything wrong with leftist involvement with games.

>>383112468
Adam jensen is moslem.

goodlooking is a justice
why should i use ugly characters?
i always dont want to see nigger James bond nor to money James bond.

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>>383126258

>>383121004
>pipboy

88/88 b8it.

Almost like games are a product, and companies do what makes them the most money. White males don't offend anyone but the most sensitive of SJWs, and those people don't buy vidya anyways.

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>>383126258

>>383126227
>Needs citations on fun levels for a billion dollar hobby that is only continuing to grow.
When the fuck did you grow into such a bitter faggot?

>>383126431
not an argument, nigger

>>383114258
Both still look like a nigger to me that a problem.

>>383109534
if white men with brown hair stopped buying video games, there would be no video games

>>383126431
>"Oh shit I don't have a single fact to back up my lies, I better call him a faggot!"

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It's funny that the OP's picture was made in old-/v/, but nu-/v/ will completely deny that we were once disliking those boring standard protagonists, rather believing that /v/ always was muh SJWs.

>>383110524
It's not like they take any effort in writing any good white/male.

>>383126431
Its growing due to f2p, more computer access, kids growing up with games and phone games. Actual core gaming isnt really growing.

>>383126060

I will never not chuckle at Hype Train.

>>383126431
"More diversity in games makes them more fun."
That's the claim you're disingenuously trying to defend.
Go ahead now, little leftist shitstain. Provide some evidence.

>>383126675
t. hasnt read the thread

>>383126258
Chinese anon please reveal me your secret traderoutes I want to buy low sell high

>>383109534
Jack from bioshock isn't even a fucking human being, he doesn't have a race

>diversity just means more blacks

that's the opposite of diversity actually

>>383114040
his game is still trash though

the medieval star citizen