Defend this

>>383094170

It's fragile, but a cloak may save it from hits.

Knowing that I have to farm them if I fuck up too much motivates me to put in my best effort in every boss attempt.

>>383094950
That's the same logic people use to defend soul memory.

>>383094170
Gotta say, the artist for theese things are amazing.

did nothing wrong

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>>383094170
How does it taste?

>>383096492
This tastes... like blood!

>having to grind healing items in a series with fucked up hitboxes
Great.

>>383096889
You don't have to grind them at all.
You can find an abundance of them and the max you can hold is 20.

It's really not that difficult.

The only times I have to use a lot of them are during boss fights where I make small mistakes and am not paying attention.
Shit, the rally mechanic even helps you get health back.

>>383097184
The point.
your head

>>383094170
Why is it used like a syringe when it's just a plain bottle?

>>383095628
Nah soul memory is just stupid.

>>383094170
Bloodborne is a faster game than Dark Souls, so logically the healing needs to be faster. :^)

>>383094170
Play Demon's Souls faggo.

git gud

Parryable healing a best. Sippies a shit in comparison.

I feel Iosefka should give the player more freebies until Gascoigne is down. Or the Yharnamite drop rate to be slightly higher. After that, it's a perfect system for an action game.

Shit is dropped by literally anything. Can carry 20 of these fucks at once and they're dirt cheap in the shop if you do fuck up. What's there to criticize?

>>383099519
Casuals suck at videogames

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>>383096492
You don't drink it, silly! You inject it inside you! Remember not to use the same needle too many times!

how much damage should i be doing to ludwig? this boss is pushing my shit in
Using the saw blade +10 and doing about 250 each swing not extended

>>383099757
Woah how does soft skin do that to a needle?

You actually have a reason to fight your way back to a boss instead of just sprinting past them.

Yes you can be a faggot and go find easier enemies to "farm" but you're intentionally ruining the experience for yourself that way.

>enter depth 5 rfc chalice
>slap one zombie

Bam, you now have enough souls to buy 600 vials.

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>Go level up
>Spend left over blood on Vials
>Never ever run out unless I start eating shit

Or for those in/near end game
>Do one floor in Chalice of Isz
>Gallons of the stuff
>Max all consumables

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>>383094170
Why would I defend one of the easiest games in the history of gaming franchises. Seriously each area following the "chosen hunter" and his excessively buffed weapons from assorted game locations as he fights brainless enemies has been less engaging than the last. Aside from the handholding, the game's only consistency is providing you with absolutely retarded, unchallenging mobs and allowing you to run through all of them without any combative motivation thoughout the entire game. All to make the difficult feel easy, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when From Software voted to make the game a PS4 exclusive; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody. just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for the souls series. Bloodborne might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Final Fantasy 7 in its refusal of challenge, skill and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the Dark Souls games were good though
"No!"
The enemies were easy; the bosses were unfairly hard. As I played, I noticed that every time a enemy went for an attack, he spent an unrealistic amount of time telegraphing an attack.
I began marking on the back of an envelope every second the enemy stretched his arm back. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope a several dozen times. I was incredulous. Miyazaki's mind is so governed by outdated game design philosophies that he has no other style of challenge. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Dark Souls by the same Kevin-V from Gamespot. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Bloodborne at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to play the Star Wars Jedi Knight." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play "Bloodborne" you are, in fact, trained to play Jedi Academy.

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>blood has turned everyone insane or into a monster
>insight has turned everyone into a retard or a monster
>all the old hunters are in hell or purgatory
>all the old scholars are monsters or retards
>PC consumers fuckton or blood and insight, kills the Old Ones and becomes a god himself

Bloodborne is one hell of a game.

Literally never ran out. Still not sure if I like the vial system, but the purpose was to avoid reliance on lamps, which it does accomplish.

>>383100576
could you explain what you mean by avoiding reliance on lamps?

You can't block.

>>383100006
metal is really only hardy when it's in lots of layers. needles are very thin.

>>383100436
>picking up someone else's mental illness as a mantle
get help.

>>383101327
He means you dont have to go back to refill as you do for estus in souls games

>>383094170
>get to late game
>if you somehow get hit lose more than half your health
>dump levels into VIT until 35+
>have to use at least 2-3 to get full health again
This is my experience with them.

>>383101978
They heal a percentage of max health. The point is to keep you from full healing after every love tap and get fucking good

Jesus christ /v/ is too pathetic to even play bloodbourne in the current year

>>383101942
but you can't even rest at lanterns

>>383100436
the 10 days meme is evolving nicely I see.

>>383101978
They heal a fixed percentage, like 35%.

But yeah, especially with the DLC the enemy damage just gets fucking ridiculous.

>>383099973
+10 should be fine unless you don't have the stats that your weapon scales to. I beat him with Blades of Mercy +9 and some 30+ skill.

>>383094950
>farm
>>383096889
>grind
Why do you even play videogames?

>>383104224
to have fun and play the game not farm for healing items. Why do you ask?

>>383104146
this is my first souls game so i think i screwed my build up at some point
For some reason strength doesn't make my weapon stronger, arcane does now. I think it probably has to do with the fire gem or whatever i put in my weapon i've basically been doing catchup.

>>383104426
You can just unslot the gem, you know.

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>>383104365
>to have fun

>>383104683
I'm aware, the best gems I have all seem to fall under arcane stuff though.

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>>383104426
>having so low insight that you don't even look at the numbers
Don't reproduce.

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blood transfusion was a mistake

cleanse our beastly idiocy

You can buy them? you should focus on dodging as bloodborne expects you to? the rally system exist? the extended time span rally system exist?

>>383094950
this. It certainly stopped me frog mindlessly chugging like in souls. Yeah you have less of them overall, but when you know you get a free refill you have no stress.

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>>383100436

>>383100051
>souls

>>383100436
>"No!"
Everytime

>>383094170
Please let us purchase it from Iosefka.

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How viable is this baby mid to late game? I want to Castlevania my way through the game.

>>383109720
Ds IS castlevania 3d

>>383109720
Every weapon is viable throughout the whole game. There isn't gear progression in BB, you find the weapons you like and then you invest in them.

>>383110457
>>383109720
btw excellent taste my man

>>383099757
I always find the healing animation unsettling. My hunter probably has a very purple right thigh

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>>383100051
>got back from Gamestop after acquiring your copy of the gotyay, Bloodborne™
>"Oh yes, Paleblood..."
>holup there doc, lemme just head to depth 5 dungeon now to get my blood vials

>>383094170
>t. can't be assed to learn heal parrying
Having fun with estus chuggers in DS3 scrub? :)))))))))

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>>383100436
>but it’s certainly the anti-Final Fantasy 7 in its refusal of challenge, skill and excitement
I loved FF7, but that gave me an intense kek.

>>383094170
invisible scoring mechanic

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>got the game recently
>finally beat Orphan of Kos a few minutes ago
That was a great fucking fight. One thing I don't get about the story though is, what was up with the nightmare areas? Are they actual physical places? Are they like a silent hill type thing? Characters like Maria/Gehrman/Micolash seem to be long dead in the waking world, but they're still up and around in the nightmare/dream worlds, so are they ghosts? And who the fuck was Mergo?

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>being so bad at the game you have to go out of your way to farm curatives

What i do like about the blood vials is how they're just a flat 33% health refill and there's no upgrades to how much they heal or how many you can carry. They way you can design encounters with everyone roughly having the exact same amount of healing available to them in mind as opposed to souls, which has those two variables to muck it all up.

>>383113910
They are alternate dimensions that are 'hosted' by a the mind of particular being, whether Micolash, Gehrman, or whoever. They're not ghosts, they're sustained by whatever dream/nightmare they're in. If you destroy them in the dream/nightmare, and they no longer have a body to return to in their home dimension, they will die for good. The Hunter's Dream works a bit differently because it was engineered for a different purpose than the nightmare realms.

Mergo is a baby ayylmao

>>383113910
Dreams are a different temporal state due to the old ones and the secrets discovered by insight. The hunter's dream seems to be made by the Moon Prescene to force the cycle to continue on while nightmares were made by groups of people gaining insight into differnt powers. Mergo was the baby created by the queen and Kosm, and micolash gained insight and created that nightmare, where as the old blood dlc nightmare seems to be directly related to the atrocity that happened in the fishing hamlet, maybe the rage of the peasents beckoned the old ones and created it for mad hunters? it's all very loosely connected. It's less like ghost and more like they abandoned their bodies and live "forever" within the old ones realms of dreams/nightmares

>>383097861
you obv smash it into your leg, letting the glass puncture the flesh and let the blood sink in

>>383094170
They're only a problem right at the start of a playthrough if you suck shit. Just be mildly competent and you'll be fine.

>>383106689
blood farts

>>383113910
>>383115160
>>383115398
I don't know what it is but I just despise the lack of certainty in the Soulsborne games. You can go into any given thread and see the same questions asked all the time about key plot points with a bunch of different "answers" that are mostly just theories. They often contradict in small ways or even start out-and-out fighting with each other. It's strange because I generally like JRPGs which are known for their insane leaps of logic and vagueness, yet here somehow it bothers me.

>>383097861
Good question, but who says it's a needle? He could be slamming the jar hole into his thigh and letting it leak in.

>>383094170
They make sense lorewise and that's all that matters.

>>383099973
Saw blade? You mean saw cleaver? That's the best weapon to use so just try harder I guess

Reminder that paleblood is the moon presence and the reason why Great One infants are always stillborn is because MP always sends out hunters to abort them which is why you're able to be released from the dream as soon as you kill Mergo.

>>383116213
It's too much vagueness to get a grasp on. JRPG vagueness is maybe 1 or 2 points, in reality it's very simple and doesn't have much lore built into the situations. Soulsborne games build a fuck ton of lore by dropping miniscule amounts of information, so while there is some areas of agreement, a metric fuck ton of it is guesswork. I like it just because it allows you to build your own theories, and thereby craft your own story, but if you want a narrative told at you it seems pretty half-assed

>>383116213
That's mostly only smaller things and lore for certain characters though. The big things in the games are pretty much spelled out for you. Like in Bloodborne in the DLC, they never explicitly tell you what's going on, but you can easily infer that Byrgenwerth started murdering/experimenting on villagers and likely somehow killed Kos or experimented on its body, causing the curse of the nightmare, and this was the big "secret" of the nightmare.

>>383116213
That's funny, because I love it for the same reason you hate it. I love that I always have questions, and find it fun piecing together this mosaic of lore tidbits into a cohesive structure. I also find the mythos themselves to be really cool. Fromsoft is really good at gothic horror.

>>383094170
>>383094950
In 300+ hours of BB I've never, NEVER had to farm these. Not even once. And I'm not the best player for sure.

>>383101978
I want to know why a combo from a who in the chalice dungeons can kill me.

>>383099973
Use Fire Paper.

>>383101978
>tfw armor does fucking nothing
>but it makes it easy to fashion because you don't have to worry about it

>>383116772
Because fuck you, that's why.

Nobody defends the Chalice Dungeons.

>>383094170
that's a pretty cool render

>>383116979
Armour does make a significant difference, but only if you're using Hallowed or Cainhurst or something, most everything is trash.

Estus wouldn't work with the rally system
Anyone who thinks it would is a faggot who should never get anywhere near game design or criticism

Main problem is how many you can carry. 10 would be far better.

>>383094170
Fast games need fast healing

>>383117208
The rally system is barely worth mentioning - if you use the Hunter's Axe, it's viable for like the first 3 areas. Then it's useless, and stays useless. But the time you get to the Defiled etc Chalice Dungeons it's but a dream within a dream of a mechanic.

>>383117562
I used the rally system throughout the entire game
Defiled chalice I guess is a special case because your health is so low but the chalice dungeons were the nadir of the game anyway.

>>383094170
Beverages in glass bottles taste better than in plastic bottles.

>>383117562
You do know you don't have to keep your axe in trick mode to be good at fighting yeah? forcing staggers isn't the best strategy the whole game and seals off rally, I used ludwig and it still worked. Try using the rune that extends rally time

>>383117992
That's only because they have real sugar

>>383109720
Beast Cutter is better

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Farm them ? Just buy them, they're cheap as hell. Buy 40-70 after a boss.

>>383099757
Is that why many drug addicts get diseases so easily?

>>383114598
And I hate them for this exact same reason, it means VIT is too good and there's little reasons to explore in unorthadox ways for further potential upgrades.

>>383096889
>grind

Usually when I solo a hard boss and die and run out, I just load up my backed up save from the cloud.

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>>383094170
pretty big mistake, I feel like they thought the regain system wasn't enough or something

If you think you ever have to farm these you are bellow shitters

>>383119120
That's because they pass the needle around. Picture is why they fuck up their skin and vessels.

>>383116213
Just read lovecraft, everything in Bloodborne is stolen from it.

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>>383100436
Just to clarify, I'm the real owner of these trophies.

Bloodborne is beyond easy though, I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I discovered a core mechanic is being able to summon 2 players to do anything remotely difficult for you - not that I needed to because you can just run past 99% of enemies without getting touched.

>>383119993
Summoning is as much of a core mechanic as setting a game to toddler mode is.

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Who /artbook/ here?

>>383119768
>stolen
they're not pretending they invented those themes, so they didn't 'steal' from lovecraft. lovecraftian horror is basically its own subgenre of fiction.

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>>383120084
That's not true. The concept of insight, bells and collecting madman items are revolved around making summoning a core function. Along with offering offline NPCs for you to summon just before boss battles.

That only scratches the surface though. Items that are designed to completed cheese bosses for you, health replenishes as you attack (unbelievably), locking on makes your attacks auto aim rendering accuracy a pointless commodity, spectres and notes every step of the way to literally tell and show you what to do.....I could go on.

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>niggers think estus is a better mechanic
>just run to a bonfire while sippin on sunny d

Please refill the stock once you went back to the dream.

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>>383094950
>farm

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>>383094170
Not as good as Dark Souls/2 flasks but works completely fine in conjunction with the rest of the game.

Dark Souls III has the worst healing system because of easily you can use it without punishment.
>inb4 "muh grind"
The players skill level isn't a game problem.

>>383094170
why does everyone say bloodborne is the hardest soulsborne game? I literally spammed this shit the entire game.

>inb4 why are you spamming it
nigga why not? It's not like I'm exploiting a game mechanic or some shit

>>383115812
>>383116289
The good hunter brings his own needles to inject the vial he finds. You wouldn't pick up a syringe off a dirty Yharnam street would you?

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>>383099757

>>383120963
Probably the speed of the enemies and bosses, which is faster because you can dodge faster. That or the lack of shields, maybe a lot more Souls players hide behind shields than you'd think.

>>383094170
It looks like booze. We're not defending shit, we're drinking it.

>>383116714
this
you can usually buy lots of them unless you're big on levelling or getting weapons/armor
and even if you DID have to farm, you just need to load into the very first level of the game in central yarnham and pretty much 50% of the enemies are guaranteed to drop at least a vial

>>383120963
Adjusting to the game during the first playthrough maybe. I remember bosses like Gascoigne being hard the first time.

Also things like DLC, Winter Lanterns, late level chalice dungeons, etc.

>>383121238
Not that guy but it affects the spellcasters too. bloodborne was the first soulsborne game I played that I didn't choose to use a ranged build(went beast claws). Sure I had the dodging down but I had to deprogram my fear of getting into bosses personal space and learn to parry in general

>>383094170
Usually there were ways to farm a few blood vials on the way back to the boss. Like the pigs. Ludwig has a harmless enemy that drops 5 every time

>>383116772
The chalice dungeons has some of the best enemies and bosses. I remember my first encounter with the screaming labyrinth sage. That old bitch scared the shit out of me, especially because of how fast she is.

>>383120430
why did her shirt go kaboom

>>383109720
It's really good for crowd control throughout, possibly even better than the axe for that role