Grimoire Heralds of the Winged Exemplar!?

>>383034719

>>383072627
KILL
ALL
SUBHUMAN
SAPE
SCUM

In precisely 22 hours and 53 minutes, Grimoire, the herald of pure RPG excellence, releases. IT TOOK 23 LITERAL YEARS TO MAKE (HOLY SHIT), so you know it's gonna be great! The developer is one of the last Neanderthals alive and he possesses the intelligence of five average Homo Sapiens combined. And it can be all yours for the low, low price of 40 AMERICAN DOLLARS. Let us discuss this incoming masterpiece.

so is this guy more of a tarn adams or ulillillia

>there are Homo sapiens in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>383073020
He's more of a cwc

>>383072627
GET HYPE for smashing your mouse a million fucking times to advance combat!

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>>383072901
>40 bucks for this

>>383073182
There's no market in pandering to morons. I wouldn't want to make that kind of money.

Grimoire is an elite game that is unlike anything else up on the Steam store. I defy you to find anything like it in the thousands of games listed. I defy you to find a game like it on the planet. It's not even a Wizardry clone really - it's everything Wizardry should have been but never was.

I'm not competing with Sir-Tech any more. Amongst other reasons, they went bankrupt 17 years ago.

I'm not competing with anybody. Grimoire is the pinnacle of the peak of the summit of the incline. I could probably get 99.95 from a lot of people but I don't want to limit it just to the very elect of RPG players. I made a compromise and and priced it somewhere just under current AAA titles. The truth is there is not an AAA title you could buy nowadays that deserves to crawl up on a high chair and plant a kiss in the crack of Grimoire's ass when it comes to enjoyment, immersion and wonderful escape.

I say all this with confidence because I have been playing my game 12 hours a day for two months and I can assure you there has never been anything like it in all of recorded human history. It's the greatest thing ever to emerge from that genre. The fact is, people who enjoy that genre are considering it cheap at that price. If you are not a connoisseur of the genre then why would I amend anything in it to appeal to you? It's like saying Mozart needed more cowbell.

Trust what I am saying. Those of you who played the demo and got the scent of greatness will know the full game has achieved it. For whatever it lacks it has much more in abundance.

I was just playing Kublai Cathedral to check all the logic and was almost weeping tears of joy at how wonderfully told the story of everything is in the game. I had forgotten a lot of it and it was like reading the work of someone else.

>>383073020
more of a Varg Vikernes

The game will suck you mentally into another dimension of win and excellence, no kidding. I warn unstable people against playing it at all. If it becomes that kind of obsession with the author - who should be long tired of it by now - you can imagine what elite fans RPGs will feel.

The game is special. I have supercharged it with awesomeness right down to the atomic level of every bit in the digital binary. $39.95 is very cheap once you have played the game for a short while.

>>383073260
Games that are better than grimoire
>arena
>daggerfall
>every wizardry game
>nethack
>a bowl of cold soup

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>>383073182
dat furbait tho

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>>383073260
>I could probably get 99.95 from a lot of people

>>383072627
This game is going to revolutionize the RPG genre, we are on the cusp of a new standard for a quality RPG!

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>>383073373
*Sigh* Some people just can't deal with facts.
Here you go, pal, try to keep your head from exploding.

22 hours and 46 minutes, the incline is coming.

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get ready motherfuckers

>>383073541
>Quantity = Quality

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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grimoire-heralds-of-the-winged-exemplar

>>383073541
Citation fucking needed on the playtime, and it loses or ties on every single other aspect aside from this retarded "autowalk" thing.

>>383073864
Grimoire is a quality game for distinguished monocle wearing top hat and tuxedo connoisseurs of roleplaying games. This is not another whackamole begware lowest common denominator sewer skimming bottom feeding title. I would recommend that regular Steam consumers have a doctor standing by before playing Grimoire as the shock to the system could lead to a trip to the emergency room. It's not like anything they are used to seeing up here. This is the true old skool goodness. You may think you are prepared but rest assured you probably have not seen this much awesomeness anywhere in the past 20 years.

>>383072627
mega link when?

>It's so dense it is like those 12000 page novels written out in longhand on legal paper they find in the apartments of adult retards when they die.

I cannot tell when this guy is being serious or not.

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>>383073936
Makes me laugh every time.

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>>383073182
>implying it's too high for a dungeon crawler

yet people have no issues paying 60$ for another CoD every year,really roasts those almonds doesn't it

>>383072627
Wasn't the game supposed to be releasing on Thursday night, like every other release on Steam? 7/7/2017? Why is it now 8/7/2017? Is Cleve scamming people?

I am cautiously excited about the game but I have a feeling that it is more like this.. random fantasy where every kind of creature and race and whatever has been mashed together so it resembles a psychedelic trip more than a medieval high fantasy game.

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Good night people, been a while since we had threads this fun.

Game is seriously overpriced.

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>>383074198
I have no idea what you're talking about. This all seems very cohesive to me.

>>383073260
lmao I wouldn't pay a tenner for this.

>>383073020
Terry A. Davis

Looking forward to this more than I probably should. Been craving another game like this ever since Grimrock. Shame Grimrock 2 was so horribly optimized that I couldn't even play it at lowest settings without going sub 30 FPS.

>>383074128
The game looks like a fucking game straight out of the 90's (BECAUSE IT IS BASICALLY). Expecting $40 for it is ridiculous. $20 would be a much better price point, and probably get more sales and be more profitable in the long run. Setting the price at $40 just means your competitors are going to are going to have a much easier time beating you, regardless if your game was of better quality or not.

>>383074669
Guarantee you GrimWah is gonna crash to desktop and fuck up with your computer more than Legends of Grimrock 2 ever could hope to.

>>383074090
>It's so dense it is like those 12000 page novels written out in longhand on legal paper they find in the apartments of adult retards when they die.
What?

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>>383073936
What's his problem with crows? We don't deserve that kind of treatment.

If I had to choose between spending 40 bucks on this and having to play it or having somebody steal my 40 bucks, buy 40 dollars worth of staplers and staples, and drive them all into my anus, I think I'd have a hard time deciding.

>>383074716
>>383074432
I have last veto on any price anywhere as the author.

This game will never, ever be offered anywhere for $12.95 before the year 2025. That's a promise.

I am considering an opening discount. It is highly recommended by Steam. After that, it will go to full price and stay there for the next 8 years.

I am following the development of SHELTERED and they are doing a good job adding new detail every few months. It's a very good investment.

Anybody doesn't like it is invited to spend 20 years of their own time writing a game superior to all previous Wizardry releases. Good luck, it's easy to say but hard to do. Working alone, it's impossible unless you are a Neanderthal.

>>383073541
Where's Wizardry 8?

>>383074514
I wish Cleve could patch in a Dolphin as playable race. Imagine a dolphin in plate armor wearing a spear and casting water magic. Damn that would be cool and fits every fantasy settings.

Demo was shit. Awful character creation (3 rolls for skill points, then you either go with the third or have to scrap the char, if you don't get at least 30 out of 32 - prepare to get fucked in-game), writing is complete tripe, movement makes you dizzy (try ultra-smooth to skate on butter), encounters work on the principle of "one exact type of attack works great, the rest is complete shit", battles take up to 12 turns to complete, there's a limb system, but it does jack shit and just overburdens the system further. Skill points are not distributed at the char creation screen, instead you need to select your characters, then go to stat list for each one to see whether or not they still have point left to distribute. Casters are worthless, except bard who constantly levels up his songs and in an hour learns to lull anything and everything to sleep. Characters lose vitality by guarding, which is why your casters will spend their time poking monsters with their staffs. Puny exp and gold rewards, boring maps. 4/10 tops, yet Neandronethals will defend this mess.

>>383074786
CROWPOSTERS LEAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>383074851
i bet you wacked off to the thought of that you sape. grimoire will rock your anus more than any office supplies

>>383072627
I can't figure out if the Codex is in on the joke or if they are the butt of it.

>>383074396
Comfiest thing ever.

so what does everyone feel is the definitive dungeon crawl experience? Anything akin to grimrock on steam I can pick up?

>>383075003
Lies

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Oh great... he's one of THOSE people... gamergators

>He claims he's so smart that no court would find him guilty of plagarism or theft for Sir Tech.
>Doesn't write his own DRM.

What a Sapien.

>>383073437
by "a lot of people" he means the half dozen drones on RPGcodex who suck his dick

>>383074951
REEEE and all but frankly his hate for Wiz VIII is pathetic. It's like Wiz VII was his highschool crush and Wiz VIII is the Chad who fucked her on the prom night right before his eyes.
>>383074973
I'm very surprised Dolphins are not in the game. Maybe, in a paid DLC? 25 bucks seems like a right price, and a tight release schedule of about 2025.
>>383075153
Truths.

>>383074940
Its probably going to be cracked in less then a day once someone gets too it. Then it will be the great discount of FREE.

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>>383074951
You've done it, mister

>>383075116
Wiz VI-VIII
HoMM 4-6
Eye of the Beholder 2
Lands of Lore 1-2
King's Field 1-3
Wiz IV if you're feeling frisky and by frisky, I mean "I need a game to mount me like a bitch and abuse me all night long" frisky

>>383074090
>>383074775
Seconded. What? Can I get some examples of this?

Only thing I can think of is Fallout Equestria or that book some guy wrote explaining Bloodborne.

>>383075003
You're talking about an obvious flaw in a demo that was ISSUED HALF A DECADE AGO. That was before dinosaurs roamed the Earth. It was back when men lived in mud huts and banged rocks together for an "internet."

Do you imagine I may have fixed these kinds of bugs since then?

Do ya?

THINK ABOUT IT

>>383075078
Both, at the same time. They are constantly mocking him in various states of irony, but they unironically paid 15 thousand bucks for this.

>>383074090
>IT'S SO DENSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHOLFZnFa0w

>>383075534
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4112682/1/The-Subspace-Emissary-s-Worlds-Conquest
the world's longest novel

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>>383075428
JOKE'S ON YOU, FAGGOT. YOU'RE GETTING THE INFERIOR VERSION. I WIN AGAIN HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHA

YOUR POOR SAPS CAN'T KEEP UP WITH MY NEANDERTHAL INTELLECT

>>383075772
Why are you doing this?

I have worked for two months to assure it isn't a buggy mess.

Ordinary mortals could not possibly imagine the amount of work I have done during this time to deliver a product looking as smooth as the one I have in front of me right now. Just blitz after blitz followed by retesting and verification. 50% of the time is taken doing verification. There are so many factors that are related to other factors they can cascade into unforeseen problems if not retested. As I said it is one big integrated story.

Play balancing is going to improve from widespread random testing. The game logic and behaviour is 10,000% improved over that superdemo.

>>383075772
for someone who learned C++ in 3 weeks you sure know little bout pirating xD

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uhh neanderbabs?

>>383075604
I don't. I believe the game will ship in a state much worse than this demo. I believe this will be the worst Wizardry VII fanfiction ever. Cleve lacks the self-awareness that made Wizardry great. Devs knew what they were doing. Look at IV, it's a glorified shitpost in game format.

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>>383075772
My god. Is it.... Him?

>>383075872
Because he's a jealous brainlet.

I can't wait for this shit to fail desu

if you don't support grimoire you are probably a melonhead

The fuck is "Auto-Walk"?

>>383074018
not for TREND
not for STONER

>>383076293
You pick a spot in the map you already traveled to and your party walks all the way there by itself. It's a new addition to Grimoire that is gonna revolutionize Dungeon Crawlers.

>>383074669
Grimrock 2 ran great for me. Loved the dungeons and puzzles in that game.

>>383076353
This better be bait.

Have you people seen the splashscreen of the demo? It's filled with retarded "jokes" straight from the late 80's pc dev scene. It seems that the failure to create Wizardry VIII has stunted Cleve forever.

>>383076556
Nope

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daily reminder mods have been deleting grimoire threads for a long time be ready for the whole enchilada senpai it will expose (((them))) screencap this

>>383074669
WUT. my laptop can play grimrock 2. What the hell kinda garbage are you using?

>>383076047
meant to reply to
>>383075767

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I CALL BULLSHIT

IT'S BEEN DELAYED A MILLION TIMES ALREADY, THIS IS GONNA BE YET ANOTHER DELAY

CALLING IT

>>383076734
Didn't know N.Brio was actually a KANG. Holy shit, Naughty Dog were whitewashing bastards in PS1 days.

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>>383076660
Well, since you're saying it isn't... Have a dungeon crawler with auto-walk.

It will be delayed until 20XX
In your heart you know it's true

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>>383070886
dragon quest ix

>>383073020
definitely terry davis, but of the two? ulillillia.

>>383074128
there are shitloads of wizardry clones just as good as this, if not better. fuck, half of them look and play better because they don't insist that shit menus and controls are "fun"

>>383074198
dude doesn't know shit about worldbuilding or game design. expect i wanna be the guy: the rpg.

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will it be moddable?

>>383077061
Yeah, but does it have auto-map AND auto-heal?

>>383077061
that's a different feature that allows you to place arrows on map tiles to create permanent routes for your party to follow. it's not the exact same thing as clicking on a spot and moving there.

i mean it's definitely a pretty dumb feature, but it is not present in etrian.

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pathetic neo /v/ trying to shit on it
>muh 8 characters too complicated
>$40 dollars for le indie game outrageous!
>2d graphics aged like le milk where are the actual graphics 4K™ 60fps™ ps4pro™
>le niche game won't sell as many copies as the latest corporate AAA game backed by a multimillion dollar marketing campaign.

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Grimoire is the twisted, demented result of a mad man's dream. He speaks of IQ, which anyone who knows anything about IQ tests, are biased towards certain types of intelligence and are fundamentally flawes. He proclaims himself the decedent of a dead species simply because he must be a special snowflake of some form, however being an Australian, he was most likely assaulted by an Emu or ate some bad veggiemite in his youth.

Grimoire itself is a bloated, out of date monstrosity that this man could not let go of years ago. It's filled with a ton of pointless stats, pointless magic, and pointless dialogue.

It's never going to full release, and if it does, it will only sell about 1,000 to 1,500 copies, and then we will be treated to the ravings of Cleve as he sees his dream collapse under the realization that he missed the boat 20 years ago.
Pic related, Cleve's face after release.

>>383077154
will it be toddable?

>600 hours of play possible in a single game
>244+ Maps in the game to explore!
>Turn-Based strategic combat
>144 context sensitive magic spells
>14 races, 15 professions, 50 skills
>64 intelligent NPCs with 8000+ Words in Vocabulary
>Full Sentence Communication with NPCs
>240+ monsters each with special powers and defenses
>1000+ items, Carry Containers, Global Party Inventory
>30 conditions, from Confusion to Disease & Lycanthropy
>Automapping, Autowalking, Autohealing
>Global Map Atlas With Position Marker
>Quest Journal, Hint Prompting, Help Facility, Mini-Quests
>Complex LockPicking Interfaces for Doors & Chests
>Challenging Puzzles and Rich Interactive Dungeons
>Browsable Character Library for up to 100 characters
>Up to 12 Commented Postage Stamped Savegames
>Multi-themed GUI and customizable screen layouts

>>383077209
Oh yeah? But you can ride on turtles.

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>>383077195
>>2d graphics aged like le milk where are the actual graphics 4K™ 60fps™ ps4pro™
you're right anon, dogshit 90s pc game graphics were the pinnacle of 2d.

>>383077195
>posting a game cleve hates with a burning passion while shilling grimoire

>>383077307
you'll probably be able to have more than 12 save games by saving them to a different folder on your computer (and then moving them back later if you want to load them)

>>383075516
Do you mean Might & Magic instead of Heroes of Might & Magic?

>>383077307
Some professions are complete garbage, as well as most races. Stick to humans and drow casters, take a human as the cleric since wolves suck dick even in the demo areas. Vampires are plain bad and Necromancer, the coolest most underappreciated class, is completely useless. Metalsmith? Pointless, since crafting is garbo. Thaumaturge? Pointless and plain bad stats. Pirate? EL OH FUCKING EL. It has less class variety and less interesting builds then fucking FF V, which isn't even in the same genre.

>>383077307
>All these features.
>Obviously bloated from a man who doesn't know when it's time to trim features back to make the game playable.

Cleve you doofus.

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>>383077307
>64 intelligent NPCs with 8000+ Words in Vocabulary
Oh FUCK me
>Automapping, Autowalking, Autohealing
HOOOOLY SHIT
>Browsable Character Library for up to 100 characters
OH MY GOD. OH MY FUCKING GOD.
>Up to 12 Commented Postage Stamped Savegames
YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. HUH. HUH. HUH.
>Multi-themed GUI and customizable screen layouts
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>Full Sentence Communication with NPCs
Aaaah....

>>383077537
Yeah he probably means M&M since HoMM has no dungeon crawling. 6 has the best dungeons in the series IMO they're massive, elaborate, and sometimes downright evil with spells but the game gives you tons of fun spells to deal with them. M&M games aren't pure dungeon crawls though.

I hope at least 80% of stats are completely fucking useless. That will teach the casuals.

>>383077537
Yes, sorry, I'm orgasming too hard from Grimoire demo to concentrate

>>383077695
Have you played the game or are you still basing this on a five year old demo?

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>>383077510
I like wizardry 7 AND wizardry 8

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>>383073182
>game looks worse than games released at the time he started his longass development

>>383077695
You don't know that. I'm sure based Cleve rebalanced everything for the full game. Josh Sawyer will be jealous of Cleve's balancing skills.

>>383077815
waiting for the crack

>>383077815
Demo, but I doubt he fixed any of the problems in these five years. That would require rewriting the whole skill/attribute/battle/race system and from the screenshots, it seems it stayed the same with minor visual tweaks.

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>>383077713
>Most of those features don't work as described.
>Cleve will defend them as working as HE intended and that we Homo Sapiens don't understand his genius.

Let us begin the Mad Dance!

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>600 hours
>599 hours is you wrestling with the clunky controls and interface

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21 hours and 58 minutes left, bros. How you handling the eternal wait for the greatest game ever made?

>>383078096
You're gonna be eating crow when this shit gets delayed. I'm telling you. It's happening.

>>383077938
I mean, you're not wrong, but using Metal Slug is cheating

>>383072627
Will I be screwed if I make it a party of one and wait to get party members in-game?

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>Cleve when game is on torrents within an hour or release.

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>all of these people talking about the game as if they've played it.
You guys are fucking retarded. I want summer to end.

>>383078183
I know but you gotta go big or go home

>>383078517
There is a demo that people are playing with.
http://images.indiegogo.com/file_attachments/170199/files/20131101230731-GrimoireSuperDemoV15.exe?1383372451

>>383078517
I played the superdemo and the UI was the most atrocious shit I have ever seen.

I have looked at all the stats, attributes, classes, races and items this shit has.

I have deduced that it's a shit game.

>>383078517
Play the demo, nigger, witness the shitlog that it is and only then post in this thread.

>>383078517
>as if they've played it.
there is a demo with several hours worth of content you know

>>383078517
>Shitty writing
>Shitty combat
>Shitty interface
>Atrocious graphics
Face it. The only reason why we're talking about this is because it took 23 years to make and the developer is crazy and full of bantz.

It's so dense it is like those 12000 page novels written out in longhand on legal paper they find in the apartments of adult retards when they die.

It's so dense it is as thick as jungle foliage that you need two machetes to clear a trail through.

There are wheels within wheels in Grimoire and wheels inside of those wheels. Those wheels have little wheels inside them running wheels. Grimoire is a fractal it is so dense.

Sorry, but after two months of playing my own game I have to say that Crusaders Wizardry 7 is just a pale shadow of this win and excellence. I started as an imitator but I am finishing as something else.

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>MUH $40!!!!1
*pays $50-$60 for a VN*

What did /v/ mean by this?

Corwin doesn't know what he is missing, seriously. The game is x infinity better than the version he tested.

Listen to what I was double-checking today. You're not going to believe it.

So I freed Q'Orl from the Royal Bestiary and he left to go to the Astral Plain. I also fought the cockatrice here and got the braid.

After sawing off the lock at [REDACTED] I noticed it was pretty solid gold so I spoke to one of the thieves in the woods about it. He told me something amazing - that there was a smith in Crowl who could work a piece of raw gold like that into some pretty spectacular armour. I took it back to Smithy and he told me to leave it with him, he'd see what he could do.

I went off and had some amazing adventures in a dungeon to the far west and discovered a Djinn Bottle. I got the Djinn to reveal the secret page for me and later I asked him to transport us to the Astral Plain. We met up with Q'Orl again and he gave us something very special in reward for traveling so far to see him again. We moongated back to Dominion Wilderness outside the city and I spent some time forging a recommendation letter for Shrike to see if we could join up with the Vanguard.

I went back to see Smithy, stopping at another weird cave for some excellent rewards before arriving back in Crowl. I was increasingly getting pretty fitted out, the entire party was wielding some pretty serious weapons and magic.

Smithy had made me the best armor in the game, the golden armor. Pretty pimped out at this point, plus two resurrected party members from bones and one of the Ego entities had joined us and they had gargantua stats. Was getting in shape to beat up some of the toughest monsters in the game. All this happened today just wandering around testing and double-checking various elements of gameplay.

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>>383078808
>>383078650
>>383078623

>>383078517
>but it's just a DEMO
>but it's not RELEASED
>i bet he PATCHED IT
>I don't wanna be ALONE

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>MUH $40!!!!1
*pays $50-$60 for a linear VN*

What did /v/ mean by this?

>>383078183
10,000 of years from now someone will raise their voice in the middle of a vr symphony, a handcrafted experience generated by AIs creating phantasmagorias of adventure, color, feeling, sound and play, never the same twice, for those rich enough to experience it

and they will say

"holy shit metal slug was prettier than this"

and the maestro-AI will scuffle() its algorithmic feet and admit, yeah, okay, it was

the audience will then begin sending King of Fighters stage background .gifs to eachother's retinal implants

>>383073182
Looks like a game release during the Windows 95 era, it particularly reminds me of Wizardry 7 Gold and thats not a good thing.

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>>383078950
>>383079081

>>383079001
nice try, cleaver

>>383079001
Back to Codex, neandronethal
>>383079081
That puzzles in 999 and VLR are more intelligible and interesting then in this sad excuse of a Wizardry-like

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>MUH $40!!!!1
*pays $50-$60 for a linear VN with pretend choices*

What did /v/ mean by this?

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>>383074396
>sleeping

What is this heresy?

>>383078950
>>383079081
>paying for VNs
wew

>>383078980
This is exactly the sort of thing I'd expect from an autist making a game for 23 years. I am very excited.

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>MUH $40!!!!1
*pays $50-$60 for a linear VN with zero replay value*

What did /v/ mean by this?

>>383078950
>>383079081
>>383079273
At least change what you're saying instead of just copy pasting.

>>383079403
i'm on a phone, it's hard to type entirely new posts

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>>383078517
>he doesn't know

>>383079452
>Phone Poster
opinions discarded.

>>383079452
>not using speech to text for epic shitposting

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>MUH $40!!!!1
*pays $50-$60 for a linear VN*

What did /v/ mean by this?

>>383079452
You're a cancer.
>>383079523
He paid THRICE to redo the portraits. I hope the one with a dumbass human face on top of a snake stays, I love it.

>>383077807
I tried to play M&M games, starting from Worlds of Xeen but it seems to random in this sense you need to fight every 3 seconds and also fighting mechanics involve just pressing one button. Where is the fun? I also have M&M 6 and started new game but there is this that I die to mobs as they overwhelm my party. There's literally like 50 guys killing you every 20 meters. Doesn't make much sense.

>>383079163
beautiful

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>>383079654
yeah some of em are just downright weird

>>383079001
This, not defending the neanderthal but 90% of them are critizing the game only because they don't know the genre.

>>383079932
Nice. I'm gonna roll a Snakewoman with that portrait and call her Deepthroat, because that's the only thing this bizarre creature would really be capable of.

>>383079882
M&M 3 to 5 has bases that you have to clear out to stop enemies from spawning. You can pretty much eradicate everything if you want to.

>>383079371
I don't think anyone bought that game.

>>383077307
what the fuck is a "Postage Stamped Savegame"?

I've had M&M 6 and Wizardy 8 in my backlog for ages, but I never start any of them. I'm getting the feeling that they'll become grindy and tedious as fuck after about 50 hours, and that I'll grow tired of them halway into the game or so due to this

Help me, /v/

>>383079946
I've finished Wiz IV blind before you were born, negro. Grimoire is a masturbatory fanfiction of a sad chucklefuck, deal with it.

>>383072627
maybe there was a reason it was forgotten.

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>>383079946
Literally /v/'s biggest criticism of Grimoire is that it looks too much like Wizardry

Which is HILARIOUS considering these fucking /v/aggots worship retro hipster garbage like Mega Man 9 and Mega Man 10

>>383080287
He has a wife and a son.

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>>383075442
This is the guy that called those people ugly.
Think about that for a second.
This is Evilore levels of delusion.

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>>383079163
>the audience will then begin sending King of Fighters stage background .gifs to eachother's retinal implants
goddamn right they will

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>Making a retro hipster game is only okay when WE like it
-/v/

>>383080485
Let me correct that:
He pretended to have a wife and a son for several years. He had, in fact, posted from said "son's" account. There was definitive proof that both were fake tho.
>>383080470
>>383080628
Back to Codex. Wizardry was not bloated and random battles did not take 10 turns. It also didn't have dump classes, dump races and dump stats galore just for show. It also had a sense of humor, a very good one, actually. Cleve has none of that.

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>>383080506
Why is he calling himself Neanderthal? He looks like a chubby Anglo fuck, he has literally none Neanderthal facial features. People with high amount of Neanderthal DNA generally hive massive brow ridges and big jaws.
t. someone who actually looks like a Neanderthal stereotype

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>>383080506
Do you mean this gentleman here? Oh my...

>>383074128

Pretty much this

If it's good for its genre, then it's worth 40 buckaroos

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>>383080789
>cleve doesn't have a sense of humour

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>>383080789
>It also didn't have dump classes, dump races

But you know what did?

You should play more RPGs you underaged faggot

imagine if someone makes a mod to make the ui and all the flow less retarded, it's a good drama potential

>>383073434
O M G

>>383081018
He doesn't. Did you read the in-game texts? It reads like a mix of cookie-cutter fantasy and the author having a stroke. It's also so far its own ass it turns into a Moebius strip.
>>383081039
>A game that was literally a 4/10 when it came out should be a shining beacon for future titles
Crawling in arena is goddamn awful

>>383081101
I'm sure the game is going to be very moddable once some slav figures out the map format.

>>383080470
no our biggest criticism is that it looks like shit and is child-like compared to wizardry, lacking basic QoL that everyone has come to expect of the genre. Keep up, son.

M&M IV/V, M&M VI or Wizardry 8?

>>383081612
Wiz 8 every time. Say hi to Gregor.

>>383080273
i can attest that wiz 8 is not a grind and has been an enjoyable experience despite the antiquated nature. just bought it during the sale. Give it a go

>>383075534
The most well known is probably 'In the Realms of the Unreal.' Some of the illustrations were put up in an art exhibit once, you can google them.

>>383081612
M&M 3. The UI is amazing.

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>>383081286
>>383081553
>MUH QUALITY OF LIFE!

Cringe.

Very cringe.

I bet you can't even play System Shock 1.

>>383081675
I bought it at the GoG summer sale, but /v/ claims it's grindy as fuck, so I'm a bit wary
I've also heard that about M&M 6 due to large enemy groups

>>383081771
>The Quest
Is this worth playing? I've been planning to buy it for some time

>>383081771
Oh, I can, because in System Shock, despite all the clunk, you manage one guy, not 8 of them. You're a sad pathetic neandronethal. Eat crows and die.

Facebook + /Cleveland-Mark-Blakemore-170011520055297/

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>>383081920
If you prefer solo character adventures like Fallout 1/2, as opposed to big parties like Wizardry and Might & Magic, then you'll like it.

That's why I like it.

English is just a bit rough but sensible

>>383081920
For tablets its great, but when meassured up againts the standards of PC games its mediocre. Buy it on sale.

Do I just need more stamina to not drown in the water in Aquavia?

>>383080287
Grimoire looks literally NEXXXT GEN compared to even Wizardry 7 you dick sniffer.
Go smoke a black dingus.

what did people dislike so much aboud M&MX?

>>383081920
pretty good it's like a solo character M&M

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>>383082335
>but when meassured up againts the standards of PC games

Like what outside of the old ass fuck RPGs from the 90s?

>>383082424
Yeah, but it plays worse than Wiz I

>>383081553
>our
Stopped reading there. Speak for yourself, cock smoker.

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>>383081101
I'm sure someone will remember what happened with stardew valley with the face mods

though I'm not sure if Clive is against mods in general for grimoire

Recommended DRPGs?

I've only played Etrian Odyssey games and I enjoyed those.

>>383081675
do you play on expert?

>>383082424
it looks like one of those shitty strategy games people play on normiebook

>>383082694
>I'm sure someone will remember what happened with stardew valley with the face mods

Go on

>>383082821
fb has classic 90's DRPGs?
awesome!

>>383082758
you can adjust difficulty at any time but yeah, battles are pretty easy to start with.

I made a party with bishop, gageteer, bard, ranger, valk, and samarai.

Make sure you train your bishop a ton in the monastery by casting light and resting so you can get fireball by level 5

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>THIS GRIMOIRE GAME LOOKS TERRIBLE
What RPGs have you played?
>OH YOU KNOW THE CLASSICS. WITCHER 3, FALLOUT NEW VEGAS, LEGEND OF GRIMROCK, PILLARS OF ETERNITY, SKYRIM (skyrim totally sucks despite me putting in 900 hours into it)
mfw

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>>383082884
I'm fairy certain these were made hours after release

>>383082937
>looks like
>graphics define a genre

are you a literal retard?

>>383073182
>?Snake?
So the game was written in a low level language.

>>383082694
apparently the demo you could swap portraits so i guess you will in the final version
>>383082719
ultima underworld/arx fatalis
wizardry
M&M
lands of lore
eye of the beholder
dungeon master
grimrock
anvil of dawn

>>383082694
I bet he is, after all a plabeian altering the ultimate perfection that is Grimoire is unnaceptable. Like, imagine if someone releases something like "Rebalance Mod", the guy would go nuts at the suggestion that his game is not perfect.

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>>383082719
Dungeon travelers 2
SMT: Strange Journey

>>383082424
Stil one gen behind Wizardry VIII. You know, the real one, not the one Cleve jerks off about.
>>383083221
Nice try, fag. Wizardry I-VIII, M&M 1-10, Ultimas including Underworld, Lands of Lore and Eye of the Beholder. Just admit you're a drone and let go of your dignity.

Fuck off RPG Codex. That article about PoE that went up the other day was some of the most pretentious trash I've ever fucking read.

>>383083323
I haven't said anything like this.
Go suck a bag of dicks.

>>383079882
read the pastebin in the /vr/ thread its pretty straightforward and don't pull hundreds of goblins in MM6

>>383082719
Wizardry Gaiden I II & III for Gameboy

>>383073182
style is honestly amazing

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>>383083437
>Ultimas including Underworld

The only good mainline Ultima was 8 though. You have some incredibly shit taste to be able to put up with 1-6.

Can you be a necromancer, hide behind 7000 skeletons, and ascend to lichhood? If not, shit game.

>>383083375
I also recommend Dungeon Travelers 2. The amount of content in that game is pretty staggering. Must like moe girls and fanservice though.

>>383080920
I don't know why Indie devs like whoever's making Grimoire don't just break the game up into separate pieces and charge like ~5 dollars for each piece. It won't scare people away like a 40 dollar charge would. Plus if they like it, they'll pay for more then one chunk.
I know that's what kike AAA developers like trying, but they usually provide a product that's actually worth spending 60 bucks on the whole thing at once.

>>383083628
t. TheBull94

>>383083684
Name one game where you can do this.

Please.

>>383083479
Oh yeah, they really outdid themselves this time. Fucking enforced neutral positive reviews are no longer enough, oh no. They need to suck Obsidian's dick. I hope they at least got paid for it.

>>383083684
Surprise, Necromancer is a shit class with shit spells
>>383083628
Suuuuuure, Cleve, whatever you say. Still lagging behind Wizardry VIII, aren't you? Still couldn't make not-square dungeons after 23 fucking years.

>>383083758
>>I don't know why Indie devs like whoever's making Grimoire don't just break the game up into separate pieces and charge like ~5 dollars for each piece.
>GIB DLC PLS

/v/ is always sending mixed messages

>>383083826
I don't get it.

>>383083856
HoMM2 and 3
You can become a lich in M&M7 but can't summon thousands of skeletons

ITT: neckbeard writes his first d&d game and keeps samefagging about it on /v/

Should I get into Wizardry with 7 or 8?

>>383083856
Diablo 2

>>383083898
>necromancer is a shit class with shit spells
You played a five year old demo where you couldn't progress even a fraction into the game. Stop fucking talking as if you know shit.

>>383084010
8 is better and only clevefags disagree.

>>383084010
8 is very newbie friendly, but will still screw you over. Get the speed mod.

>>383083484
>make a comment about the cartoonish and low fidelity quality of the graphics and UI
>proceeds to bulk about it being a different genre than the one I compared its' visuals too

Sure thing, bud

>>383073182
>>383082694
This is just laughable, Eye of the Beholder, with its VGA resolution and 256 color palette had better artstyle than this.

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>Game says its advancing RPGs to a new level
>Still can't rape women

???

>>383083437
And you are a dedicated shitposter who is in his 40s and posts on a Manchurian paper tiger folding board where the average age is 15.
At least Cleve spend 23 years of his life autistically making a throwback game of a dead genre.
You on the other hand have done nothing in your life to show off.

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>inb4 it's pirated to death and the developer has a massive aneurysm.

>>383084064
Necros are vamps, vamps get their stats reduced by half all day erry day. Shit race, shit class, spells with terrible accuracy and even worse mana consumption.

>>383080789
Back to neogaff sape
Cleve's son still updates his blog

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>>383083898
>Surprise, Necromancer is a shit class with shit spells

I wanted to believe.

>>383083985
Which would you recommend?

>>383084301
It's probably a late blooming class you moron. WHat spells did you even get access to in the demo? Do you actually think you got access to ALL the spells? Shut the fuck up.

> tfw sudden itch to play an old school dungeon crawler after remembering one I played in one of those 90s demo CD

it's going to be a fun weekend

>>383084264
Nice projection, Cleve. When I get money I'll actually fund a studio and find talented contractors to make a game with. With stable income of 200-300 thousand a year, I will be able to do that in a few years. It will be a small project, but miles better and on a way tighter schedule than your crap.

>>383083947
Kek are you really trying to compare AAA devs to Indie devs?
Also I'm talking about the whole game, to get people to buy it. If they see they have to pay 40 dollars for the whole thing, they're going to say no. Offer them episodes for like 5 dollars each, and they'll be more willing to spend money.
Again though we're talking about indie devs and not regular devs.

>>383084504
Wow. The irony here is astounding.

>>383081672
Everyone keeps talking about Gregor. I'm playing it for the first time now. Gregor wasn't as much of an issue as the endlessly spawning FUKCHUEG groups of bandits on the road. Seemingly random in level and size.

>>383084482
I would recommend getting both from /vr/'s HoMM general because they're both fun games. I like 2's campaign better but 3 has a great random map generator and tons of content.

>>383081612
Either start with M&M3 or 6. 3-5 are easy to go back to anyways so dont worry about that sort of thing.

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some one point me to the manual PDF for this game please.

>>383084224
congratulations, you entirely missed the point of Grimoire.

>>383084650
There is no irony here unless you understand it the way Alanis Morisette does. Unlike Cleve, I've actually worked in management and understand how to keep a schedule.

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>>383084605
It's not a pretend game with pretend choices like a Telltale title, so I don't know how you'd split an RPG into pieces

>>383083628
Ultima 7 and Underworld are legitimately good though.

>>383084860
Wizardry 7, the game Grimoire tries to ape, came out 2 years after the first EotB

>>383084504
Don't forget to keep us updated with your blog.

>>383084967
Agreed - but I like 8 more.

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>>383084650
>tfw I'm developing my own game engine

>>383084868
The way you've been acting in this thread makes you sound like an insane egomaniac who's going to lock himself in a bunker and work on a game for 23 years.

>>383085053
I'm not Cleve, so I won't

>>383075442
this guy has aspergers or this is what happens after you spend 20 years in a basement writing shitty games in c++

>>383080858
>Neanderthal stereotype
Those early proposed phenotypes are a myth. Neanderthals had Nordic features as exemplified by Cleve. Sapes are sub-saharan Africans. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans

>>383084891
All RPG's have at least a little bit of a story and main quest to them, you'd break that up into chunks. If you're really greedy have sections of the land under a paywall too.

>>383083330
it's probably c/c++ and even if it was made in asm that's not a fucking excuse for the question marks

people do shit in low level languages all the time and don't have their text all fucked up

>>383084857
Grimoire? It's not out yet, dude.

20 HOURS AND 42 MINUTES UNTIL RELEASE FOR THE GREATEST GAME THAT HAS EVER BEEN MADE. RPGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME.

>>383085136
?
I don't hold grudges and I want to make a game because I want to, not because Sir-Tech underpaid me in 1993 and I got pissed. I'm also a self-admitted cro-fagnon, nothing bad in being one.

>>383084868
>I've actually worked in management
Coming from an American - which I suppose you are, this means fuckall. You could have been the frozen patties counter at McDonald's and be called manager.
Titles in the English language mean fuckall.

Is there a list of classes/races somewhere? Google is giving me nothing.

>>383085090
Hi Terry !

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>>383085230
they have no idea our true power

>>383085291
>I don't hold grudges
well you sure seem determined to make sure people think this unreleased game is a piece of shit for someone who doesn't hold grudges.

>>383085259
How would it work for Fallout 2? Can't go to New Reno but can go to Vault City?

>>383085017
>the game Grimoire tries to ape
again, you completely missed the point.

>>383083883
I'm not even talking about the review itself, the fact that the first few paragraphs are all just the author fellating himself over how unbelievably intellectual and cultured he is made the thing fucking unbearable. I swear, half the articles on the codex are tongue in cheek and fun to read and the other half are the most pretentious pseudo-intellectual trash I've ever seen.

>>383085268
It's a very easy quick way to parse text.
Search for first question mark, locate it, read the next amount of bytes and store it in memory until you hit the next question mark.
>>383085386
I have no idea who that even is.

If this game fails the guy will off himself.
This is his life project, he isolated himself from society to develop this thing in this basement for 23 years. Massive companies with millions of dollars try all sorts of things to stop pirates and they still fail, so you bet this game will be pirated, besides being for a very niche audience Its simply destined to fail.

>>383085446
You're dealing with people who are pretend fans of Planescape Torment

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>>383085290

i was hoping it somehow leaked so i could see what this game is all about before buying it,

oh well.

>>383085314
Try fucking shipments management in metallurgy, buddy. But whatever, 4chan is not a blog.
>>383085414
The demo was awful. Every piece of information released since points to him not fixing any of the demo's problems. Kindly fuck off. Maybe the final product will be ok, but I doubt it.
>>383085427
That is the point tho. Grimoire is the child of Cleve's unhealthy desire to breed with Wiz VII and create a "better" version of Wiz VIII, completely serious up-its-own-ass one. Read his posts, the guy's insane.

>>383085572
>tfw no back of the box to read
>tfw no manual to read

JUST

>>383085427
the point is he wanted to prove he was better than the other genre defining games. If it's not, he failed

>>383085414
I haven't completely played that game, but it would be like having all non-quest related locations be extra places you have to pay for, and then you can play up to you get to junk city.

>>383085230
>Neanderthals had Nordic features
like I said, brow ridges and strong jaws
Cleve doesn't look Nordic at all, he looks like a chubby Anglo

>>383085772
>and then you can play up to you get to junk city.

Different game but I see what you're saying

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>>383085317
>Races
Human (Human)
Barrower (Dwarf)
Feyfolk (Fairy)
Naga (Snakemen)
Rhattu (Ratmen)
Aeorb (Pic related, don't ask me)
Vamphyr (Nosferatu)
Drow (Drow)
Wolfin (Wolvemen)
Saurian (Lizardmen)
Drake (Drakemen)
Leonar (Lionmen)
Durendil (Silver Surfers)
Giant (Giant)

>Classes
Warrior
Wizard
Cleric
Thaumaturge
Necromancer
Ranger
Thief
Templar
Berserker
Jester
Bard
Metalsmith
Pirate
Assassin
Sage

>>383085547
But I actually liked Planescape Torment, even if its combat was dogshit and half the party members get absolutely no development.

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>>383085716

>digital release was a mistake

>>383085879
I'm not saying there aren't real fans of Planescape Torment - I'm just saying RPGcodex would pretend to be fans of it

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>>383085872
can any race be any class or are they locked out based on their race?

>>383085872
Thanks a bunch anon. Sounds fun.
Any idea what Thaumaturges are? Games always interrupt them differently. I feel like they might be physics in this?

>>383085872
Aw yeah. I love how many cRPG's cater to folks who like lizard people.

>>383078183
he's been working on this shit for 25 years, the fact that it's anything less than immaculately polished means he's wasted his life.

>>383073260
mmm now here's some good pasta

>>383086282
Your example is a tiny resolutioned arcade game with a team of experienced sprite artists and programmers?

>>383086282
...or he's just incredibly lazy. Not to belittle him or anything, lord knows I love putting important shit off until I can't anymore.

>>383073936
why are indie gamedevs almost always psychopaths?

>>383080628
games that play like original megaman still play well
games that play like original wizardry do not

>>383081771
system shock 1's controls aren't any more complicated than they need to be. it also came out 20 years ago. this shit is coming out tomorrow and it controls like the mouse was invented a month ago.

>>383086182
I think so those are more like the recommended careers though as long as you meet the stat requirements you can switch classes I guess

>>383086425
25 years is enough time to figure out how to make a non-hideous video game. he claims to have spent increments of over 210k USD on this shitpile, maybe he should've hired literally any other artist.

I never thought this would actually release. Interested to see when reviews start coming in on steam.

Game will sell a couple thousand copies, bought by the few who actually played all those old games and still ahve time to play them between work, wife and kids. The younger crowd, interested because they tried Legend of Grimrock or maybe Wizardry 8, will ask for refunds when they realise the game is anti-progress and has the obtuse interface and controls of the games of old, in other words, is not a game that combines the "feeling" of old games with modern games, it literally is a 25 year old game.
Trading 25 years of your life to sell so little doesnt look like a good deal to me.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/cleveblakemore/de

I-is this him?

>>383089012
"""our guy"""

>>383088801
Please remember it will take 700 hours to finish the game... Getting reviews might take a while even from a professional reviewer. AND most game journalists are too stupid for this gem of a game. This is literally opportunity of a life time but this game is so intricate it's probably more like throwing pearls to swine.

>>383089481
There will be no professional reviewers doing this. He's not giving out review codes.

here's some backgroundstory:

white owl: there's a war going on! Quick, give me your moon clock to stop the war!
moon goddess: why? what's my clock got to do with anything?
white owl:don't ask, just give me the damn clock already!

...and then he kept it for himself and buried it somewhere.

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Cleve will be getting my $40 for the entertainment value he has provided over the last 6 years I've been following Grimoire alone. If I happen to get an amazing gem of a retro style blobber rpg as well, then so be it, but actively following the legendary codex thread has been worth every penny, and I'm sad it's coming to an end.

>>383084010
6 is the beginning of the Dark Savant Trilogy and is easier to get into than 7. Also 7 is fucking garbage.

>>383090007
It's not coming to an end. The shitstorm is just beginning. People criticizing his game and shitting on it and him wailing from the terrible sales + the critics + the piracy is gonna give that thread a new life of its own.

That is, of course, assuming the game is actually releasing tomorrow.

19 hours and 52 minutes left

I honestly think the game is going to sell pretty decent, coupled with the fact that the game was developed practically by one man, Cleve will probably make a pretty decent chunk of change off of it. It'll have some sustainable longevity too, considering that these games are simply not made anymore, and it's one of a kind.

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>>383090203
>it doesn't release

steam users would eat clive alive

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Why is the game creator and/or other people shilling so god damn hard? I mean the game looks pretty good and cool on it's own merits. Seeing the dev in here is making me want it less.

>>383090653
at this point valve already have copies and have done the internal tests to make sure it actually functions and isn't loaded with viruses and stuff
the release is inevitable
the prophecy has been fulfilled

>>383081286
>Did you read the in-game texts?
Okay. Here are some oracle texts.

Flannel Shirt - A nice warm shirt with a little stain on the collar. Oh, it's ruined now! Good thing you got this shirt super identified or you'd have never known.

Dead Rat - Yep, it's dead alright. Could this be considered a food group? Who could possibly chomp down on a rotten rat carcass and then say "Mmmm, mom the rat sure is choice tonight. Seconds for me!" Maybe if they were some kind of disgusting hideous monster that had missed breakfast. Even then, they probably would not be too happy about it ... they'd look at it and think, okay, it's a dead rat ... but the way things are going I might not get anything to eat at all today. I'll just bite into it hard and think ... "Fried Chicken! With the Colonel's special spices and seasoning, that's what that funny taste is!"

Hunting Shirt - This burlap shirt once belonged to a hunter who lived in the Fertile Crescent. He made his living by selling Rhattu furs as part of his unique clothing line. Needless to say, the garb never really caught on and he amassed a couple hundred thousand furs that nobody wanted to buy. One day when he was trying to restack his inventory, the furs fell over on him in a great big heap and he was suffocated with the smell of Rhattu all around him. Tragic. Just... tragic.

Moccasins - A small label on the sole of the moccasin in stamped "A.C.M.E." You were thinking it was some handcrafted natural organic shoe made by native peoples, but alas it's just another mass market assembly line product, no doubt sewn together in some sweatshop by starving Rhattu puppies who were not even employed under any kind of labor law contracts. Try to enjoy your moccasins produced from the blood of the working classes, you exploiter of rat babies!

>>383081286
Also, Cleve has explicitly mentioned on numerous occasions, just how he dislikes Bradley's purple prose, and even said, that, from a halfway point onwards, Grimoire is an explicit parody of Wiz7 and other similar games, not a retelling. Bad Bradley-isms in superdemo seem to be there for the purpose of later being mocked or deconstructed. Which, of course, doesn't absolve those texts from being Bradley-isms - and bad ones at that.

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/245410/Wizardry_6_Bane_of_the_Cosmic_Forge/

Is this any good? It comes bundled with Wiz 7 too.

>>383090993
Lol it really sounds like he was getting tired of writing descriptions for every item, and just started half assing it and joking around.

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>>383090993
I wouldn't expect a dumb sape like you to understand.

>>383091371
6 is good but you won't beat 6. 7 is sick though.

>>383083085
why does your cleric get destruction spells? do you even classes?

>>383091374
These are the best texts this game has (well, at least, the superdemo version of it), I think.
I actually really _like_ Bradley's style, it's just that Cleve sucks at imitating it.

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>>383090993
What in the actual fuck? With so much of this game being based around the text and reading, I am now definitely considering not purchasing. Holy hell it's tiring even reading 4 item descriptions...but to have to do that with everything, fuck that noise.

Gonna wait for some legitimate reviews but i'll probably buy it if it has a release discount 40 USD is a little steep and I even enjoyed the demo.

>>383091947
Also, by "Bradley's style" I mean this:

Walking through the trees, you suddenly stop.
A torrent of thought sweeps past you, dark haunted images, escaping from behind the locked confines of your own mentations.
Like a shock, your mind begins to race with the impact of all events that have brought you to this place.
Does Mankind have a destiny?
Does the Universe have a destiny?
Could it be possible to alter the Universe of all that has been before?
Or is all that can be, to remain all that is.
Who is this Dark Savant, this dark herald of change?
And what role shall you play?
Will your actions assist the approach of a new order within the universe, or hasten the onslaught of its own destruction.
And how can you be certain of the difference...
These thoughts begin to fade as quickly as they appeared, and soon your gaze returns to the forest where you stand.
Perhaps somewhere here on this new world lie the answers.
And then again, perhaps not.

The majority of texts in Grimoire's superdemo are written in the style, that really tries to be similar, but ends up being, well, just overly verbose, I guess.

>>383092437
This. Simply stating "a pair of brown shoes; perfect for wet weather (list stat modifiers here)" suffices for something like moccasins. You want to be brief and to the point, but also be able to tell people what they're actually useful for.

>>383089481
This. There will be no genuine non-sape reviews until mid-August.

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>>383092437
>sapes

>>383090993
I'm not gonna say Bradley was a 10/10 writer, Woodhead was much stronger and IV shows it. But these are some pathetic attempts to rip off Bradley's style. Dare I say, autistic.
>>383092754
The starting paragraph in the demo is the worst. In 23 years of dev work Cleve didn't manage to edit his text and change that contextually inappropriate 'long, deep nap' to 'long, deep sleep'. What a fucking chode.

>>383092437
Nah, those "funny" descriptions are pretty rare, the majority are normal, or contain explicit hints on how to solve puzzles.

That being said, there are 1000+ items in the game, right?

Each one can be identified by the oracle.

Thus providing a unique description.

Yep, 1000+ descriptions.

Also, save before using items on oracles, those oracles have limited number of uses and they don't ever recharge.

>>383092816
The "Dead rat" oracle descriptions are NOT the attempts to mimic Bradley, they are pure Cleve through and through.

The attempts to mimic Bradley are all the OTHER texts in the superdemo, the ones I didn't even bother to transcribe they are so plain and featureless.

The "Dead rat" descriptions are actually the only texts in the superdemo I've found even remotely interesting specifically because they don't try to ape Bradley.

>>383093718
>>383093087

>>383092816
To the simple sape mind perhaps. Patrician Neanderthals expect to be entertained.

>>383093831
It's a fair cop

>>383090871
Because its been in dev for 20 something years and we are mocking the guy.

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>>383091529
>Can't bring myself to play 6 to 8 and importing my party the entire way through

>>383085872
Isn't it more like

>Human (Neanderthal)
?

>>383094325
In Cleve's case it's more like Neanderthal (Sape)

>these threads all have less than a hundred dedicated (shit)posters
There's no saving Grimoire. Dead on arrival, just like Neanderthals. Dirty homos can't keep getting away with it!

>>383094002
kinda compelled to do this

>>383095151
This is actually untrue, to be honest, mate. The last Grimoire thread had 140 unique IDs by the time it was at over 500 replies.

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>>383095151
it's a miracle grimoire is even getting threads at all let along somewhat excitement towards it's release here of all places

also just found out that the aeorb's are immune to spells even when dead ;_;