Censorship

Geez anon, I wonder what this anonymous image board's opinion will be!

>>383068423
Free of censorship, at least.

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i hate censorship

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>>383068423
i think ops looking for more of a discussion/circlejerk/echo chamber instead of a for or against it post

the question is whether he will get one or not

>>383068746
What makes you say that? I'd love to hear examples of positive censorship in video games.

>>383068746
una vela?

why not post what you really think
such as "fuck this stupid censorship"
and leave it at that
it's a stupid pointless question

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It's good if you're removing a players ability to be exceptionally toxic to other players, like Sonic's taunts in Smash or the Sorry emote in Hearthstone. Otherwise fuck it.

>>383068746
una vela pa

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>enter a club
>see this
>wat do

>>383068263
She's underage, which is a big no no in the west.

>>383068996
>>383068857
>>383068746
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y075LuOk3_k

sabe pa

>>383068563
>free of censorship

Oh yeah, post porn and see what happens

TE MEO

>>383069065
18 in the western edition.

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>>383068845
That would only be possible if we lived in a universe where Video Games existed in the 30s and the Nazis had added some vydya to their degenerate art list.

>>383068746
>>383068857
>>383068996
>>383069096
FUCK OFF BACK TO TARINGA YOU FUCKING SUBHUMANS

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>>383069425
el americANO
el chiqANO
pico pal q lee

>>383069504
el hideakiANNO

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I think it's really fucking stupid

>It's okay to show blood, gore, and other horrifying shit
>You can swear like an absolute sailor
>But so help me god if I see even the slightest bit of that girl's panties
>Big buff naked dudes are okay though

>>383069179
A thread with cp got archived this morning, anything can happen.

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>>383069425

JAJAJAJAJAJARATATATATATATAH

Me cojo a tu vieja (a la de vos que lees)

saludos

>>383069179
Worksafe board, anon. If you wanna dump your BBC folder do it on /pol/.

>>383068263
censorship is inherently bad

>>383069567
Yeah, but 4chan was fucked this morning, shitposting was rampant.

>>383068987
>toxic
KYS

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una velita porfa pa....................

>>383069313
>look here mr. judge
>yeah we changed her age
>what? she looks underage?
>and she is underage in the original release in Japan?
>no no no, she is totally uhmmm 300 years old
>I swear
>yeah looks like a child
>and she is nude in our game
>but as I said - 300 years old!!!
>no, Mr. Judge, don't ban our game
>and pls dont put me in prison

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DANDOLE MACHÍN A LA BAISA

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una vela pa

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ITT: tons of guys like in pic

>>383068263
>A flawed system driven by vocal minorities and rife with double standards?
This

Add in the fact that the figurehead vocal minorities/parasites financially sustain themselves solely by creating problems where none existed frequently by intentionally, dishonestly cherrypicking specific bits of a game to be considered out of context

plz fund my patreon to fight problematic cultures around the world who need to correct themselves to my worldview

>>383069893
>I want to live in a society where a fictional character displaying her buttocks and the sides of her bosom are a jailable offense

Wew.

>>383068263
Censorship is shit in general. If I don't like the content of a game I won't buy it and won't play it, I don't need somebody else removing shit which is supposedly offensive.

Ypu know whats funny right? We have hbo dramas giving us frontal nudity, we have Rockstar and frontal nudity of both men and women. Yet when what precious fanservice is there for Japanese games gets censored it makes wonder why Japanese devs dont take advantage of how most western devs have upped the ante and give us an unrated and uncut version of the Japanese game in the most kike way possible with topless patches. They will be herald as saviors and its not like Gamespot or IGN give a shit anymore. Beats their native land in being so strict with nudity

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>>383068263
>no ass
Nothing of value was lost, anyway.

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>>383068263

>>383068987
>toxic
What a faggot

If it's something very small like lengthening a girl's skirt a few inches is all that's needed to keep an ESRB rating low then I honestly can't bring myself to care. I perfectly understand why the devs would do it and it's not going to impact the game in any way. I'm definitely annoyed when whole features or options are removed though, like Xenoblade X's tiddy slider or FE Fates' waifu petting. Then the game becomes an inherently lesser version of its uncensored self.

>>383069590
Thats not even censorship, thats just another mess-up Grezzo made with the Majoras Mask remake

It's the case of giving a hand and losing the arm. Let them censor a shower scene and a year later they'll want the shower scene entirely removed. Also the female character in the shower scene needs to be aged up. A year later dialogue will need to be changed so the female character states that she's in a lesbian relationship.

>>383069590
I didn't see this as censorship, just a terrible attempt to make it more obvious that you can shoot those with light arrows. The design changes were awful, but I didn't get the sense that they were done to remove something potentially offensive.

>>383068263
"WAAAAAAAAAAAH I WANT TO SEE TITS BECAUSE MOM BLOCKED PORNHUB"
-/v/

>>383071279
fuck off roastie

>>383071279
>all nudity is inherently erotic and/or sexual
is this how it feels to be american

>>383070263
I was stating how it would work out right now, dumbass.

Also, just because your a pedo and want your pedo content doesn't mean everyone else is one as well.

Child porn is actually a criminal offense, if you like it or not, you degenerate sick pedo-perv.

And in some countries also drawn pedo crap is seen as the same. Otherwise you could go (and you would, fucking pedo):
>no, Mr. Judge
>no no, this isn't child porn
>it's drawn child porn
>so totally okay now, isn't it
>yes, this other drawing is actually a drawing of a child porn photo
>but you see, it's totally not child porn, because it's DRAWN

That's the fucking reason why Nintendo and others are changing up that stuff. Because they do not want to be associated with child porn + child porn laws and they also do not want their games getting banned.

They don't have a problem with sexualized content of adult womyn like Bayonetta.

>>383071279
No

>You're not allowed to see tits because that guy over there who doesn't even like video games is upset

>>383071438
so what? Is looking at naked people so much important to you that ruins games?

>>383071512
Alters the creator's vision is inherently a crime.

Imagine if in 20 years we decide that a woman's lips are too erotic and must be covered and so someone decides to pain a black strip across the lower half of the Mona Lisa's face. It's lunacy.

>>383071424
>I'm an idiot
>yeah I have a baby daughter
>let's take photos of her - nude - in the public - that's not sexual at all, so should be fine that I do that
>oops, I now got into trouble, because of a crazy society
is this how it feels to be retarded
(not a burger btw, I hate burgers probably more than you do)

>>383071683
>le bideo gays are art argoobent :D
You must consider mods heresy ,retard

>>383071683
Yeah, because all the paintings of naked women are being painted over to hide the boobs.

>>383071279
Anime tiddies are important
https://hckblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/pce5.jpg

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>>383071512
It absolutely is, anon. You got a fucking problem with that?

I'm a grown ass man with a job, a house, and bills. I work my fucking ass off to go to school and right now I'm on summer vacation. I wanna play some titty games. I wanna bring home some Senrans and some Dead or Alive, and I wanna look at some ass and jerk off. That doesn't mean I don't play good games. I just started the prime trilogy again.

But motherfucker, sometimes you just have a bad day and wanna see some titties. I think it's completely fucking retarded that you can go out and pick up super ultra motherfucker murder simulator and turn people into paste but the idea of letting me snoop up some skirts is outrageous and needs to be banned.

Go fuck off back to your high horse, cunt.

>>383071786
Everyone has naked pictures of their children in family albums and it's literally a non-issue.

What you mean by '- in the public -' I don't understand, but the anon you replied to said that nudity isn't inherrently sexual, and your example does not prove him wrong in any way.

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>>383071683
>Imagine if in 20 years the bad terrorists that were used by us 'muri-tards to keep Soviet Russia busy are now officially "bad terrorists"
pic related

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>>383071279
t. Dobson

>>383072142
wat a fag prolly never got laid ever in his whole life yur

>>383071786
based on your entire post you do seem to know how it feels to be retarded

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>>383068263
Censorship will never be needed. The thing about being human is that we have all sorts of base needs that must be satisfied. Sexual release (both normal and abnormal) and satisfaction of violent urges are important in the same way food, drink, shelter, and companionship are needed.

This scares the absolute shit out of people, especially those who have trouble dealing with the fact that life is morally gray. It's why those that start to heavily push for censorship of certain sexual depictions in fiction or violence in video games and other media are often found to indulge themselves in the real acts that those depict.

All censorship is and ever will be, is an attempt to hide from ones own humanity through projection.

>>383072136
That movie makes me think of how shitty Afghanistan in MGSV was.

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Fucking prudes.

>>383068263

I think that it's sometimes a necessary evil thanks to the differences in cultural mores between two societies with very different views on violence and sexuality.

That said, some people lose their fucking minds over the stupidest shit. People will get pissed over something as simple as Nintendo changing the Squidling's gesture when they successfully hit an enemy in MK8D.

I'll get angry over censorship which significantly alters a game (especially if it's a game I was looking forward to) but it's not worth getting pissed off if the games add an inch or two to a skirt or take out one bonus "sexy" costume from a 60+ hour JRPG.

>>383068263
Completely disagree with it. Only exception where it is acceptable by publishers/dev is if it required by law to have a game released in a country. Even then I disagree with in that scenario the fault likes with the countries laws.

>>383070495
>Wears a tight pencil skirt that will obviously show pantyline
>Decides to wear granny panties

How can some people be this dense?

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>>383072767

>>383073127
Strange, it's almost as if a fictional character made of pixels is completely transmutable in the details of their existence.

>>383073089
Hell, not just legally, but I understand it when a company is aiming for a lower rating in order to actually be sold in the big stores and widely distributed.

Nobody would bother releasing an Adult's Only game in NA because doing so would instantly kill 95% of the game's potential sales.

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>>383068263
Is no one else offended by that filter?

>shitty sprite scaling with scanlines

>>383073634
>I understand it when a company is aiming for a lower rating
When has that ever actually happened though
Even with their censorship, Xenoblade X, FE Fates and TMS #FE are all rated T
And no, girls in bikinis do not automatically give an M rating

>>383073634
AO is a shitty rating because you can't advertise freely, not because you can't sell it in most stores

>>383069063
>tfw No more a new Sparkster, Contra or Goemon proper game
FUCK

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>Say you hate censorship
>Post on a site that is very far from supporting free speech

Okay.

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Why is Kojima such a pervert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVMtdboa3bs

>>383074237
compared to most other popular websites 4chan is the capital of free speech

>>383074312
Which I think just points out how fucking awful every other site is, not how great 4chan is.

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>>383074294
he just wants to make good videogames

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censorship strong fun tbqh

>>383068263
Forced morality is terrible and most people oppose it these days.

>>383068423
Hypocritical and disjointed. This place loves to claim to like free speech but decries when others use it and asks why it is allowed. Not to mention the support for authoritarian dictators.

>>383074482
Is that the girl who drowned in a bukkake?

>>383074496
Well he's not patting her head so that's okay.

>>383074482

poor_little_white_boy.jpg

Feels pretty pointless to me that being said I don't care if there censor sexual stuff unless probably it's part of something actually meaningful.

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What really amazes me about the whole thing is that most of the people in gaming who ridiculed Jack Thompson are now applauding when games remove sexualization of women.

>>383069617
fucking gold

>>383073634
People cut shit to get lower ratings all the time. It is a common practice for almost every movie in the movie industry to be like that. If you want to make money you need something that will be accessable to more people. Rated R and M or AO won't help that.

There generally are no laws mandating content in games in the US, at least. Mostly the same for movies. Sort of like how they could have made the friday the 13th movies in all their intended gory glory, but it would have been rated X.

The only time this shit makes no sense is like with M rated games. Like when nintendo censored fatal frame.

>>383074934
Probably because Jack thompson wanted actual government enforced morality. He wanted laws governing gaming content. If a company or individual complains/edits something, that is within their right.

>>383068263
It's a retarded action devs do but every form of media is censored in some way, somewhere. It's just life, and frankly I hate censorship but it's not going to prevent me from buying something I want, even if it treats all consumers like total pussies. So long as it's not affecting the gameplay or much more importantly, the actual content of the story, I'll just suck it up and move on. Especially sex appeal, I'll just pull up some hentai or JAV I don't need that shit in every single game I play

>>383074934
And before Jack Thompson it was people shitting on RPG games like Ultima for having satanic imagery.

>>383075293
What about places like new zealand that ban games like Gal Gun?

It's terrible when it takes out important gameplay elements or alters the story and loses the initial meaning.
/v/ immediately applies censorship ideas to fanservice because that what people here complain about most of the time. Granted it's still bad, but they're makng a bigger commotion than is necessary.

>>383075443
That's not the US and has nothing to do with a discussion on an American Lawyer lobbying for changes in American law and talking to the American senate

>>383075520
Why is fanservice content less deserving of protection than other kinds of content?

>>383074934
jack thompson didnt give a single shit about sexy girls in vidya he wanted violence purged for good and turn all video games to tellytubby shit.
He also wanted the gov to regulate sales of video games and entertainment that came from japan, preferebly banning them on American soil

>>383075520
All censorship is equally bad. Removing 80 CG's and a minigame from a game because it's fanservice is bad.

People discuss that form of censorship because it;s what gets censored the most.

>>383069567
Which one exactly?

>>383075643
Shouldn't /v/ support that? All countries should ban any possible outside influence aby another country in order to keep maximum cultural fluidity

>>383075770
>to keep maximum cultural fluidity
Wut

>>383075849
extreme nationalism requires a lot of sacrifices and crazy things for national unity.

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>>383069063
>still no Goemon game

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>>383068987
>taunts and emotes are toxic

I can understand if someone is relentless in shit-talking to where it borders on obsessive autistic rage, but taunts and emotes are fine.

>>383068263
Censorship in video games, a medium that requires most people to actively buy a copy with an appropriate ESRB rating on the front and back, is fucking ridiculous.

Theoretically, a game could completely cross the line and may seem to warrant censors but in that case nothing should still be done. The ESRB, the plethora of gaming sites and reviews and common sense will warn players of the obscene content and the market will sort it all out. Let grown adults make grown adult decisions, let the contents of consumer products be decided by developers and judged by the CONSUMERS. Fuck nanny states telling us what we can or can not have in our video games.

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Censorship is never justified.

>>383075239
Every single fucking time I see this I can feel pressure up my throat, fucking Brazilians.

>>383068263
Censorship is inherently evil. Moral policing in general is. Any law meant to prohibit an individuals freedom is evil.

>>383077156
>its my freedom to see cleavage

>>383068263
to already made products?
I don't think it should happen.
The creators chose too?
up to them

Good thing everything in this thread isn't censorship, it's just companies intentionally changing their product because they think it will make for better sales in a different market.

>>383077358
>>383077358
No, its censorship. If there was a movie with a sex scene removed in some regions it would be called censorship and no one would get butt flustered over definitions like you're doing.

>>383077304
Yes, it is my choice as an individual to see it. If you prohibit me from seeing it, you have infringed on my freedom to visually ingest what I'd want. The only time your censorship could be viable is if my individual choice or action has an obvious negative impact on anothers rights, such as rape or murder or theft.

>>383077151
Meat is meat though.
Assuming the heat destroys the various germs the monkey might carry then it's perfectly safe too

>>383077358
How often does censorship actually increase sales?

>>383077518
>Yes, it is my choice as an individual to see it.
Obviously not because its not your game therefore not your decision faggot

>>383077502
It's only censorship if they are being legally forced to change it.

>>383077560
Most parents don't buy their kids games with naked women in them.

>>383068263
>>383068423
WHOA IT'S THE COOL SARCASTIC REDDITOR HOLY SHIT

>>383077304
t. Ahmed

>>383077304
>It's my freedom to see women without burkas
>It's my freedom to see guns
>It's my freedom to see weapons
>It's my freedom to see violence
>It's my freedom to hear adult language
>It's my freedom to see white men
>It's my freedom to see men
>It's my freedom to see human beings
>It's my freedom to see anything but two rectangular paddles
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

>>383069565
it's due to the more primal issues and loaded situation of sex and nudity in burger land. Basically it was always a fear of out of wedlock kids and a fear that we see a rise in single moms if nudity was abundant because you can't really prosecute sex and have a developed/adjusted society so it turns into more of just censorship. Basically they don't care about gore because it's a law that the majority of the country fears/obeys and language by itself doesn't make babies happen.

>>383077701
>they came for me
No you went to them, you went to the store bought the game

>>383077304
Why isn't it my freedom to put cleavage in my game and let other people see it if they wish?

>>383077791
Because its not your game. You don't have the ability to change any of those facets

>>383077789
>Word picking
This reveals that you're baiting and that talking to you is a waste of time. Just thought to give you that tip.

>>383077670
How often do kid's games actually have naked women in them? Besides, the ESRB exists for a reason, anon.

>>383077893
Its not word picking, you literally rattled off tons of shit you think you have validation and decision over when you clearly don't in any way shape or form

>>383068263
SNATCHED!

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>>383077846
How would it be okay if I developed a game and some fucknuts screwed around with the content post development?

This happens in almost every case of """localization""".

>>383078152
>How would it be okay if I developed a game and some fucknuts screwed around with the content post development?
Because the publisher hired a fucking localizer you fucking retard. They have a contract.

If YOU developed a game and didn't want a localizer THEN DONT FUCKING GET ONE

>>383077904
Often enough when it comes from Japan. Look at Dragon Ball. Do you think parents would let their kids watch that if they saw Bulma getting naked for Master Roshi all the time, or Goku showing off his dick?

And yes, intentionally changing your game so that it changes the ERSB rating, and thus improves sales is a real thing. Movies cut scenes to make them PG13 and increase ticket sales all the time.

Also >Implying the only games parents ever buy are E games.

>>383078263
>It's not okay but business is business
Why are you even arguing?

>>383078416
You are fucking retarded, you think that localization is something that just happens at a whim without the developer/publishers notice even though they willingly enter a contract.

Publishers go out of their way to either get a localizer or do localization themselves its not some thing that just happens without your consent you dumb fuck

>>383077556
fuck off hueposter

>>383078416
>its not ok but business is business
where did I say that?

>>383077150
Why did this need to be censored?

>>383078576
>>383078634
>It's okay for hired contractors to butcher games because business is business
You're shitheads, it's wrong and you know it.

>>383078809
>its ok for contractors

The publisher agreed to it so its ok for them. Christ you're fucking thick, do you get pissy at your neighbor for the color he had a contractor paint on his house too?

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>>383078285
>Implying the only games parents ever buy are E games

If parents are that upset over tits, then yeah, that's all they're going to be buying their kids. Problem is, Nintendo of America censors games that overprotective parents were never going to buy in the first place.

>>383069504
>>383069617
Man taringa really got low quality

>>383079036
Why don't you go get a job on their marketing team if you seem to know so much about how well their game is going to do?

>>383078115
>tfw no release of the PSP version in sight because the people translating it are some fucking lazy faggots

>>383078897
>It's fiiiine for publishers who don't care at all for essence of the product to take someone's work and have someone else butcher it when it doesn't improve sales
There's no way you actually believe this beyond a "Yeah but the developers chose to work there" standpoint, it's wrong in every way except for the fact that it's all a business.

>>383079036
In burgerland, most people don't care at all about violence, but even the slightly bit of sexual content causes people to lose their shit.

Don't forget that GTA once got boycotted not because of the constant gangland murder sprees, but because there was a scene where two fully clothed people simulated sex in the UNUSED AND NORMALLY INACCESSIBLE files stored on the disk.

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>vela posters

Have I missed something? When did they invade /v/?!

>>383079250
>muh essence
your autism

The publisher ONLY cares about making as much money, no amount of autistic "muh essence" makes them more money at all

>>383079250
>its wrong because I said so that another person makes a choice I don't like reeeeeeeeeeee

>>383079675
So censorship makes publishers MORE money?
Show me a single article or body of evidence proving this.

Censorship is okay because it makes publishers money?
Defend this.

>>383073695
Thank you.

Scanlines are alright but people forget that they should be subtle.

>>383079954
If they censor a part of their game that could drop an ESRB rating making their game more viable across more ranges

Jesus christ you really think they're just pissing money away spenting time and labor on changing these things in game for what? They have the marketing evidence that supports their predictions that will make them more money you stupid fuck. No business just makes blind decisions like that. You are so fucking stupid and naive thinking its all some mass conspiracy or ruse for some moral purpose or prose.

>>383079141
Don't be like that. All I'm saying is that it's a pretty safe bet that kids don't know niche games like Fire Emblem, Fatal Frame, and Xenoblade even exist. Censoring them is pointless.

>>383079954
If there wasn't a financial incentive to censor their own games, developers would not spend the time and money to do so.

Publishers censoring and modifying their game to fit the markets they wish to sell said title in is how the free market works. If you're against free market capitalism why are you posting on 4chan?

>>383079954
Google Hot Coffee.

>>383068263
ive gone full loop
if it being censored is whats needed for them to port if fuck it do it. at least on pc you can get patches

>>383068263

I've opposed censorship in general, even censorship of things I don't care for or don't like, for 15ish years, so I'm not a fan of it in games. I can accept it if the game would break the law somehow, but that's the only time.

Also, I just don't understand why they censored that scene. Yes, yes, naked 14 year olds, but they pretended she was 18 in the localization, so... it doesn't make any sense.

>>383080237
>If they censor a part of their game that could drop an ESRB rating making their game more viable across more ranges
Rating systems do not differ vastly, if a game is roughly T rated in Japan or Australia then covering a character's stomach for the North American release will do fuck all. It's pure, senseless butchering of the product.

The rest of your post is wishful thinking, that papa publisher has it all planned out and that their plan is right and our wants as consumers are wrong and stupid. You aren't even convincing yourself with these bad arguments.

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>it's a /lat/ subhuman thread

>>383080251
>If there wasn't a financial incentive to censor their own games, developers would not spend the time and money to do so.

Explain NoA, then. They pay their localizers to censor games that barely sell. Where is the sense in that?

>>383070948

>like Xenoblade X's tiddy slider

That one still has be flabbergasted. I've never heard of a mother bitching because her son gave a video game character huge tits. Plus, the fact that women like to manipulate female character breast size is not exactly a secret, but then the Treehouse is so out of touch they basically live in another reality.

>>383080414
How does a 14 year old incident prove that censorship makes consumers buy a video game more in 2017?

How is censorship okay because of this 14 year old censorship? How is it okay to censor adult content in products made for adults?

Pro-tip: IT'S NOT, I can google Hot coffee and you can google Witcher 3 sex scenes, the fact is that people are waking up and raw, uncensored games MAKE money. Censorship is NOT okay and it is not better and it is not more marketable.

>>383081118
>GIVE ONE EXAMPLE
>gets example
>GIVE ONE MORE RECENT EXAMPLE

Get out.

>>383071437
>A cartoon drawing and real CP are the same thing
Child Pornography law exist to protect children, correct?
If no children are being harmed, what exactly is the problem?

>>383081187
Relevancy is extremely important for this topic, you're the one who shouldn't had ever entered it if you aren't okay with obviously irrelevant factoids you've heard being waved away because they're just that IRRELEVANT.

If someone asked you to name one instance where a certified medical doctor publicly used leeches to cure illness and didn't lose their license and you thought it smart to bring up practices in the 1800s then you've added NOTHING to the conversation.

>>383081495
Leave.

@383081581
No (You) for lazy bait posters. Don't even reference my post.

@383081631
Leave.

>>383081631
Not even him, you're acting like a child now.

Isn't there another website you should be on? One that starts with R?

>>383071437

>Because they do not want to be associated with child porn + child porn laws

Haha. I'm actually involved in bringing Japanese porn to foreign shores. You have to be careful with that shit, because the laws on loli and shota shit are retarded, but I can tell you that it is legal to sell Japanese comics of little demon girls getting railed in the ass. Nothing, *nothing* in any Japanese games being brought to America are in any danger of getting tangled up in child porn laws. No, a naked minor alone does not equal child porn. They just censor it because retards like you exist that would call it child porn, and they don't want their company names and "child porn" being mentioned in the same breath.

>>383081696
Not him you fat fuck burger

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>>383071437
>They don't have a problem with sexualized content of adult womyn
Yes, they do.

>>383081797
I would had been banned from any other website because they can't handle someone actually speaking their mind and expressing themselves how they want. The fact that you even posted this asinine reply shows that you're the one who should be elsewhere.

>>383081948
Are those even the same costumes?

I mean one is obviously a Chie reference

>>383081948
There boobs look bigger in the usa version.

>>383081848
I would actually pay for my loli if there was a way.

>>383083165

They rewrote a whole chapter of the game in order to remove the swimsuits.

>>383081948
then only thing genuinely fucking shit about that image is the atrocious fucking overalls. Cause god damn is that thing ugly

>vela posters on /v/
Well, that's it. I'm out.

>>383083516

Yeah it's unfortunate. Some stuff shows up here and there and a little more may in the future, but nothing like Comic LO is ever being released in North America or Europe.

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>It-it's not about the nudity! It's about respecting an artist's vision and freedom
>*proceeds to install twenty anime mods and ruin the artist's vision*

>>383083756
all of the bottom clothes are shit

>>383068423
4chan is heavily censored. Like a dozen word filters for words don't want us to use, 4chan mods delete my posts or warn even though I didn't break any rules. I think it's funny how bad nu 4chan has gotten but people still meme muh freedom of speech website.

>>383079036
Explain the image?

>>383084185
I don't the bikini are that great either i would preferred outfit like the one in the dlc they were selling.

test

>>383084415
Prove it, you made the claim, the burden is on you.

>>383084903

They're not great, but the actually go with the idol theme at least.

>>383081948
The baffling thing here is the design feel for each outfit is different between the iterations.
For example, the tall broad has a beautiful and extravagant flowery two piecer up top, and a frumpy overall set on the bottom. The middle girl's outfit on the bottom suits the swimsuit of the blondie except for color, and I don't even know what they were thinking.

>>383084946

Shit, I'm not even that guy but I know about word filters. Just as one example, you can't even type 8ch's proper name, or its most common nickname at least not without tricks, because moot was butthurt over it. And mods are godawful, I don't know how anyone could deny that.

>>383068563
wrong-o, kid.
watch this:
there's nothing wrong with transgendered people and 4chan needs to be nicer towards them, as well as black people

>>383068423
>>383068263
/v/ loves censorship because nintendo does it
anyone who doesnt like censorship is a virgin weeb neckbeard sonynygger

>>383084946
>ignoring all the consolewar meme words that was censored during E3
you can't even say cuck during E3 becuase shitposting gets too crazy

>also ignoring all the GG threads moot banned off /v/ when it first happened

Do you consider it censorship when they change the language from Japanese to English too you fucking weeb? Different countries have different sensibilities.

>>383086216
So the west hates women?

>>383085457
>the swimsuit of the blondie except for color, and I don't even know what they were thinking.
Me neither anon they really messed up giving best girls a good outfit.

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>Check out game
>Dead android with tit out and 14/18 year old girl in shower both censored
>This still left in

There are people out there more disgusted by healthy human anatomy than a decomposing face infested with writhing maggots. Let that sink in for a moment.

>>383086287
It frowns upon sexually explicit images in games that aren't made for a mature audience. Blame ESRB for determining what's suitable for what age, not the game maker or publisher.

>>383086518
>It frowns upon sexually explicit images in games that aren't made for a mature audience.

Like?

>>383069063
Sparkster was fucking great.

>>383086653
Fire Emblem. That's one of the ones you guys were sperging out about, right? Cartoon game for ages 13+. ESRB doesn't like naked or half naked asses in games intended for 13 year olds. Nintendo either has the choice to make the game rated M and ensure an entire demographic can't buy their anime RPG without a parent, or cover up some of the anime girl's ass in a scene that no one but 4chan will notice.

>>383076032
But the USA has become a nation of multiple cultures (unless you live in flyover states).

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>>383069063
Cover my eyes out of fear that the game will show me a pornographic video

>>383069063
>Well look who finally came out of his cave.jpg

>>383073127
>METAL GEAR?

>>383068263
>file deleted

>>383086881
Since when is Fire Emblem a hit with kids?

>>383086317
>There are people out there more disgusted by healthy human anatomy than a decomposing face infested with writhing maggots.
Thats America for you. Totally fine with blood, gore and death, but you show too much skin and you'll have faggots begging for censorship.

>>383068263
>file deleted

Was that irony memeing?

comedy gold, mods. hahahaha XD

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>>383086317
DEAR


GOD.

>>383087436
I never said it was, but the 13-17 demographic must be worth something if Nintendo is willing to change the game to keep it rated T rather than M.

>>383087362
>>383087716

Holy fuck, what? Every year I think the mods can't possibly get any worse, and every year they prove me wrong.

>>383086317
That's the culture though. Sex is taboo in media like video games and movies in the west. You can show people getting shot (albeit not graphic gore) and get a PG rating in a theater or an E rating in a video game, but once you introduce sex it becomes a more 'mature' themed game.

>>383087798
it was probably just the OP being a prankster making a meta joke about censorship.
unless i'm missing something that makes it delete-worthy.

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>>383084946
see, OP

>>383087895
Makes sense, keep kids growing up idolizing the military life of combat rather than intimate relations and settling down.

>>383087947

I don't think you can delete your own images anymore.

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I'm fine with marketing telling them they need to tone it down otherwise they can't hit a particular teen rating, thats a different(jewish tactics) discussion.
And when they come for our boob sliders, I can easily mod that back in, and I'm most certainly going to pirate it.
But what really gets my goat is when it affects the story.

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who wants to play a game?

>>383088003
Again, it depends on the country. I don't make the rules. Though trying to imply that showing nudity to children at a young age will "teach them to settle down" is a bit retarded. Really I think it just comes down to the country trying to give parents a better idea of what is in the media so that they can provide their children with what they see fit. If a parent is buying their kid an M-rated game with sexual themes in it and they're ok with that, then that's on them, but I think the point is that it's not expected for a T-rated game to have explicit sexuality in it, so if a parent bought a game rated T and walked in on little Jacob jerking off to anime tiddies, she'd be pissed.

>>383088048
You literally can. The option is still there. You just have to wait more than 1 minute(i think?) and less than 10(maybe 15-20?) so there is a window.

>>383088168
>Game is developed and created with a 12-18 demographic in mind
>Can't sell the game to that demographic in one of the largest markets in the world without changing content
>Expect them to say "Whatever" and target a different demographic just so they can fap to anime asses

read a book

>>383088423

Thought they removed that option a year or two ago. Maybe it was something else or it was reverted.

>>383087769
Bikinis and a face rubbing minigame aren't enough for a M rating. Just look at Fatal Frame, the unlockable outfits were removed yet it was STILL rated M. What was the point of censoring these games, again?

>>383087947
OP here, didn't delete it. Would be tickled if a mod was trying to be meta. I mean I can post *those* chapters from berserk on /a/ without a mod getting butthurt so it's pretty strange.

>>383088664

/v/ mods are some of the more retarded ones on the site. Though occasionally an /a/ mod will do something stupid too, like that one a few years ago who started deleting any posts with pictures of little girls, even Yotsuba.

>>383088567
Nope the delete button's still there, so is the [Picture Only] option.

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>>383080237
>You are so fucking stupid and naive thinking its all some mass conspiracy or ruse for some moral purpose or prose.

>>383088634
The company themselves deciding to change the content to either
A) Potentially bring in more customers via localization (whether they're right or wrong about the increase in people)

or

B)Hit a lower age rating in a certain country.

That isn't censorship. That's a decision a company is making. There's an option there. They aren't being forced or oppressed. Nothing is being censored. If Leonardo DiVinci brought his art on tour and decided not to bring it to a country, or to alter it for the audience in that country so it appeals to more people in that local market, that is not censorship. That's an artistic design choice to broaden the number of people who view his art and have a positive reception.

It IS censorship when shit like the South Park game happens, where they literally had to delete scenes from the game or they wouldn't allow it to be sold in Australia and the EU.

That's not the same thing as them saying "you can't sell this game as is in the US and get a T rating, you're going to have to change these things to obtain that rating, or you can sell it as is as an M rated game".

The creator isn't being censored. They're making the conscious decision to alter their work to broaden their potential market.

If you can't see the difference I don't know what to tell you.

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>>383088664
I wouldn't worry about it too much

>>383083993
If I'm installing mods then I've already completed the game once without them, so stuff it.

>>383089443
believe it or not virtue signalling some political message is a better way to explain changes than saying "yeah we had change it so you underage horny faggots could actually buy it"

>>383088634
Aren't horror usually M rated?

>>383089545
>They're making the conscious decision to alter their work to broaden their potential market.

Source? From what I understand, censorship is almost always done by the localizers themselves. It's their job to make sure certain games appeal to an audience they think is out there, after all.

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>>383068263
>must be 18 years old to purchase a console
>must be 18 years old to sign up for internet service
>must be 18 years old to purchase rated "M" games

Nah. I think companies should continue to treat their customers like children.

>>383090290
Localizers are part of the company that's paying them to localize.

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>>383089726
So true.

>>383090548
Ever consider that you're not part of the market that the company wants in the west?

>>383090503
How do you know the creators are always okay with (or at least aware of) the changes, though?

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>>383068263
censorship apologists are fucking idiots

>>383090817
>Take underage pantsu quest XXII: hurt feelings edition
>Game is about collecting panties and looking at lolis naked
>QUICK HOW DO WE GET CHAD THUNDERCOCK TO BUY THIS
>Remove all panties, cover up nudity, erase all traces of sexuality
>Game sells like garbage because it was absolutely meant to be nothing but a titty game
>wh-wh-why did this happen, how could this happen to us, I don't understand

You're fucking stupid

I don't like military games, but I don't demand they be changed or not come out in the west. I just ignore them. Is that so hard for you people?

>>383090817
Who the hell is then?

>>383072343
Underrated post

>>383068263
I think censorship in anything is fucking stupid because it's usually used for babying full grown adults. It should only make sense when it comes to children's entertainment.

>inb4 some retard acts like video games are only for children to begin with
Because if that were true, we wouldn't have a rating system to begin with.

>>383090823
Because they okay the changes.. Do you think that there's no communication between Nintendo of Japan and NoA when they're localizing games? There's always final sign off and approval, in any creative industry.

And that's another thing. This isn't art. Sure we can go back and forth about what is and isn't art and that aspects of games are art, but this is a commercial product. It's essentially a toy. it's made to sell, companies are going to do what they must to sell what they can. If they want to have the most artistic integrity and not change anything, that's an option.

But to get back to your point, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're wondering about if the person or team that created the game in Japan is okay with the changes being made in the west?

The difference between art and video games is that the person that is actually developing or even most times directing the game doesn't own the piece they're creating. They're paid to do work on specific projects that the company owns. Nintendo (just to go back to this example) owns Fire Emblem. The series creator who came up with the idea, under Nintendo, likely doesn't actually own the game or any of the IP. It's nintendo's property. So when I say "the creator" I'm not referring to the person who made the game, I'm referring to the company that owns it. It's their piece. They don't need the sign off from the dev team to change things when localizing. They just need Nintendo's sign off. It's nintendo's product, and nintendo decides the changes.

>>383091029
I'm not the one that made the change my man. Your anger is misdirected. Them targeting the wrong demographic doesn't change anything. They wanted to target a different demo and it failed. That isn't censorship, it's a bad decision.

>>383091248
The people liking and retweeting I would assume. I don't know, I don't work there, but if they're making changes to suit a different demo, and the changes upset you, then you're probably likely not in that demo.

>>383068263
dislike censorship, often decides who gets my money.

>>383090823
http://kotaku.com/xenoblade-chronicles-xs-director-on-localization-change-1796157409
Click that if you want.

you retards know that in order for it to be censored you have to have censorship applied to you right? who's censoring nintendo

>>383092372
>linking directly to kotaku
What is wrong with you? How new? Archive that shit.

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>>383091551
Damn anon, that's a pretty long winded way to say "I don't".

Assuming you're this guy >>383089545 your original argument depends on the creators either being aware of the changes or willingly altering their own work. Since you can't seem to prove either, certain aspects of localization must be considered censorship.

>>383094409
>Damn anon, that's a pretty long winded way to say "I don't".
Nintendo is okay with it because it's a Nintendo game being published and released by Nintendo.

Was that short enough for you?

>>383094409
>Assuming you're this guy >>383089545 (You) your original argument depends on the creators either being aware of the changes or willingly altering their own work. Since you can't seem to prove either, certain aspects of localization must be considered censorship.
Creator = nintendo. The long-windedness came from me very clearly articulating that Nintendo is the creator of Nintendo properties. The actual coders and developers are under the Nintendo umbrella. They're basically being commissioned to make games. Their money created it. It's their creation.

>>383094556
>>383094678
So you're saying the original developers have no say when it comes to Nintendo's localization decisions?

>>383090421
>Must be 18 or older to buy a game console
>Must be 18 or older to sign up for Internet service

In what country? That's not the case in burgerland

>>383095743
I'm saying they're not the creators. They were paid to bring Nintendo's creation to life. Fire Emblem doesn't belong to the people who write the story and develop the game. Nintendo owns it.

Is miyamoto saying he didn't like the idea of Mario being next to real people in Odyssey censorship since they went forth anyway? No, because despite creating Mario, it's not his IP. It's the company's. Miyamoto doesn't own or have any right to mario.

>>383090421
>kids don't have parents

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>>383096327
>Is miyamoto saying he didn't like the idea of Mario being next to real people in Odyssey censorship since they went forth anyway?

I don't think Miyamoto is even working on Odyssey, so that's a moot point.
Regardless, so long as no content was cut or drastically altered specifically for a different region, I have no reason to complain.

You've gotten yourself into a one-sided argument and it's the reason I love threads like this. No matter how you slice it, what publishers occasionally do to games under the guise of localization is the textbook definition of censorship.

>>383098393
But they aren't being regulated is my point. The people putting out the content are making the choice to change it. That isn't the same as a regulation or law censoring your content. Nintendo i.e. the creator is behind the change. Not a government or 3rd party regulating committee. They're not having censorship imposed on them.

You don't like the changes? Fine that's 100% alright and you can complain to them about that, but it isn't censorship. They're allowed to put out the game in its original form, but are choosing not to because they want to hit a different rating in a certain region.

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>>383098794
>But they aren't being regulated is my point

They don't have to be.