>there are people who think this is better than Mario 64.

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hi

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>>383060407
>/v/ is wrong and has shit opinions as usual
No surprise here.
Where my BowsJr fags at?

I don't think it's better than 64 cause 64 is my favorite of the 3D mario games but the people that think 3D world/land are better than Sunshine or Galaxy or 64 are all nuts.

Best controls of any 3D Mario.

You cannot argue against this.

>>383060407
Yup.
Hoping for a HD on Switch, please Nintendo.

>>383060407
I think the aesthetics outweigh the inferior movement mechanics which is why I like it more than 64.

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>finally put yoshi in a 3d mario
>he's actually less useful than mario by himself

>>383060830
Muh triggers.

>>383060807
All other 3D Marios control better than Sunshine

>>383060407
Not better
But equal is debatable

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Sunshine is my favorite Mario game, including the 2D platformers. Theres absolutely nothing you can do about it.

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>>383060407
>There are people who will defend this

>>383060407
And I am one of them
Prove me wrong

>>383060407
it doesn't have the castle, but other than that it's more comfy

>>383060807
This. Sunshine perfected the controls.

>>383061103
Gamecube nostalgia is a mental illness.

>>383061103
>Unironically using game grumps footage
Wanna know how I know you've never played it?

B-BUT MUH BLUE COINS AND SAND BIRD!

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>>383061212
Shame about the level design though.

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>>383061528
>B-BUT FLUDD AND BLUE COINS

>>383061715
Still valid complaints. Good controls don't mean shit when the levels don't complement them.

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>>383061715
>20 Shines locked behind Blue Coins
>Literally impossible without a guide to get some of the ones in Noki Bay and Pianta Village without
Come on, NO ONE defends Blue Coins in Sunshine.

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here's your last level bro
sorry its just a flat area with few mushrooms

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There are times the camera feels fine and times when I want to strangle whoever OK'd it.

Speaking of, who the hell OK'd the diving mechanics?

It actually lets you control the camera, so yes, it's better.

>>383061103
Neat, now use Vinny's footage.

>>383061934
>BUT MUH VOICE ACTING AND RED COIN STAGES AND WORSE FINAL BOSS FIGHT IN ANY 3D MARIO GAME TO DATE

>>383060956
Yoshi was always useless.

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>have to get watermelon from point A to point B between a fuckton of the flipper enemies who can't die and will flip/pop the watermelon
>if the watermelon is ever "pressured" in any way it will get popped
>Watermelon will get popped from the lightest nudge against a poll
Defend this.

>>383062650
I think that Shine is most people's least favorite. I like Sunshine and even I hate that mission.

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>>383062650
Defended.

>>383062650
"get good"
jsut bump the watermelon really hard so it flies past the second level and onto the beach and your fine as long as you don't have pariknsons and knock it into the water. I unironically like the watermelon level besides out the watermelon had fucking weird collision with the amphitheater and would bug out and telport through the pole.

>>383060407
Neither of them are very good. Crash was a far better platformer

>>383060407
>plebs on /v/ hate sunshine
sunshine was so fucking good it just shows the taste of the retards who are on this board

>>383062535
in mario world he can fly, spit fire, give mario an extra hit, allow mario to jump higher

in mario sunhsine he just falls into water and dissolves

2D Mario is better than 3D Mario anyway

mario 64 - 3 awesome unique bowser levels

mario sunhsine - 1 bowser level where you need to control a boat with fludd

>>383062930
If you dive into the melon it'll pop.

t. just played this level today.

>>383060807
That's nearly all it has going for it, though. The controls (and nice water effects) are wasted on shitty levels like Pinna Park and Noki Bay

>>383061263
I blame Dolphin and the emumemers for that. Definitely a cancer.

>There are people who defend the poison river
>There are people who defend Corona Mountain

Jesus christ worst 3D Mario. kill yourselves sunshinefags.

>>383060407
Flud becomes a fucking chore halfway through it.

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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>383063279
>Just run back across the railing and hover to get any red coins you missed
>Use FLUDD carefully to guide the boat

SAY IT WITH ME

WORST 3D MARIO

Sunshine levels are bigger than I gave them credit for. I guess just the fact you can see the entire course at once makes them seem smaller.

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THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

There are no bad 3D Marios

>>383063226
Gelato Beach is hands down the worst level, it's just three horizontal planes and has objectively the worst missions. There are TWO (2) that involve actual emphasis on platforming, the rest is a Wiggler battle, killing the Cataquacks, another recycled El Piantissimo level, Red Coin mission (underwater one might I add) and the infamous watermelon.

Who approved of this stage?

>>383060679
fuck off pedophile

>>383063528
>He doesn't mention the tedious boat ride needed to access the stage
>He doesn't mention the pipe at the end of the river that sends you back to Delfino

Unpolished piece of shit gane

sunshine
25% platforming
25% looking for blue coins
25% chasing dark Mario
25% cleaning up muck

mario 64
100% platforming

>>383063753
I never thought of it that way but you're right. Though I have a soft spot for Piantissimo, I kinda wished they put him in other games as a douchey guy who just happens to be dressed as the game's npcs

>>383060407
Nice bait
This game is O B J E C T I V E L Y better
I don't mean that I liked it more
I mean it was FACTUALLY AND TRULY BETTER
The controls were infinitely tighter than 64. The graphics were far more advanced. The story was slightly more complex without getting overwhelming. FLUDD was a fucking masterpiece when it came to control and level design.
SM64 is a very good game, but SMS is objectively better.

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>>383063692
>>383064087
I agree with both of these.

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>>383060407
In addition to its gameplay flaws, this game triggers my autism because you keep chasing Shadow Mario LONG after you find out who he is

>>383064062
I did mention the boat. Don't just blindly shoot water and it's easy as fuck to control.

You're not forced to take the pipe either. Anyone with a brain would know that exits to different areas take away your red coins, would see the side rails can be walked on and would finish off getting the red coins that way.

>>383064553
>People actually defending the lily pad level
What the actual fuck?

>>383064348
>tighter controls
>being able to slowly hover over any platform

also the framerate felt worse than mario 64

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>>383064087
Wowww look at all that platforming

>>383064021
>fuck off pedophile
Nigga do you even know where you are?
Even people here think traps are not gay.

Probably because it is.

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>>383064691
Almonds are getting activated.

>>383064703
Traps aren't gay tho

>>383062858
So you have to try multiple times to do it this way then the normal way?

>>383064418
To be fair the Piantas are blind or stupid and the disguise was clearly for them.

>>383064808
traps are gay

>>383064703
yeah but lolis aren't bowser goddamn junior
get some taste you fucking freak

>>383064628
>Implying it's hard
It's not my fault you're shit at videogames. I bet you didn't even know to shoot water forward to slow the lilypad down and make collecting the coins even easier

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>>383064808
>proving my point

>>383064808

no they arent

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>>383064914
reminds me of sonic adventure 2
>different colour
>doesn't even run, airshoes everywhere
>deep edgy voice instead of TOTALLY RADICAL COOLGUY
>"THIS BLACK AND RED HEDGEHOG IS CLEARLY SONIC!"

>>383064808
Come on.

Some of them probably are.

>>383065034
If traps aint gay then the world is flat.

>>383064947
Regardless of its difficulty what the fuck is a level like that doing in a platformer, Sunshine has so few levels that require any substantial platforming. It's not a coincidence that people's favorite levels are the ones where FLUDD is removed.

>>383062858
Now show how Speedrunners do this mission

Are Piantas the biggest retards in the Mushroom world?

>>383064806
Does anybody who isn't a speed runner do the mission like this?

>>383060407
It's all people who couldn't git gud

>>383064931
>lolifags telling others to get taste
Wew.

>>383065117

Is it has ass and tits its 2/3 woman
2/3>1/3 makes it rounded a full woman.
Earth is dickformed

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>>383065134
What are you taking about? The entire game is a platform. You're jumping and moving from place to place.

Tired of this der herr Sunshine doesn't have platforming meme

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>>383065206
>People will defend Nokis having a massive red coin fish swimming around

>>383062087
thanks bro

>>383065443
i'm a barafag actually
but my argument still stands
lolis i can at least understand

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>>383065467
It's not a meme, most of the missions in Sunshine have you doing stuff like cleaning an eel's teeth.

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>>383065587
>barafag telling others to get taste
Wew daddy. You are gave me a good laugh.

mario games apparently aren't allowed to be inventive or break away from the formula

>>383062650
>>383062798
it was hard when I was a kid but when I retried a few months ago I got it first try

grow up

>>383065797
better taste than bowser jr :^)

>>383065303
That isn't even speedrunning, is TA dick weaving.

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>>383065206
Yes

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>>383065797
>that text in the bottom image
clever

>>383066031
>bowserfag trying to tell other barafags to get taste
HA
HAHAHAHAHA
also stop posting him in literally any thread that is remotely gay

>>383066031
also shotacon is illegal in many countries

>>383065797
>grisser
disgusting, awful taste

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>>383060407
sunshine had the best levels, controls, camera (((story))) and atmosphere
64 was the most bland and clunky game in the series and galaxy 1 and 2 were too linear

>>383066271
>shotacon
Legal where I am right now.

What's the hardest Shine to get in Super Mario Sunshine?

What's the hardest star to get in Mario 64?

>>383062858
>get watermelons to nigger people
how nintendo get away with it ?

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>>383066458
Any blue coin stars really.
Watch for Rolling Rock if you are a henryfag and try to do it in more then 12 hours

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>>383065853
You can try to be inventive without spraying rancid diarrhea over something already great. Or in Sunshine's case, you can't

>>383066458
>Mario 64

Probably one of the 100 coin stars on a stage with barely enough coins.

>>383066731
Reminder the only way to get 100 Coin Star for Pinna is too repeatedly destroy Monty Mole's Bullet Bills.
>People will defend this

>>383064967
I can't believe Jr's second time to shine as a main badguy (Since Bowser is barely in Sunshine) is in a shitty Ubisoft game of all things.

>>383066845
I don't remember but that's some bullshit.

>>383066887
>shitty Ubisoft game of all things
Game looks great and im genuinely hyped for it
Gotta buy /ourboys/ game
Apparently their is amiibo support for it too if I can unlock Luigi and BowsJr right from the start and not have to play as discount minions its GOTY for me

>>383065797
L

I honestly have no idea if this game was good or not but it was hard as fuck, but extremely rewarding.

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deepest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK-GjMW47r0

EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>383060407

They're called retards. There was a special class for them in school and everything.

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>>383067987
*blocks your path*

>>383061171
watch matthewmatosis' analysis on it.

>>383068130
This shit was fucking bitchin'.

>>383068130
You know when I replayed the game this wasn't even that bad. I thought he went vertical more but he only turned once.

>>383068375
this was nothing compared to most of the mini levels and the underground stages on pianta village

>95% of shines are fun to get
>95% of blue coins are out in the open or obtained by spraying graffiti
>A few things are shit
hurr durr /v/ will defend this

>>383061528
I want a game with sunshine's movement that's nothing but platforming like this

>>383063019
>in mario world he can fly
>give mario an extra hit
>allow mario to jump higher
Which makes him even more broken than the cape. Fuck Yoshi.

>>383068607
You mean the stage where you have to rescue the Mayor? What was wrong with that one, it's one of the few non FLUDless levels in Sunshine that I found to be pretty good.

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>>383068735
>/v/ loves nitpicking
We already know this anon.

>>383061528
>Shame about the level design
>Posts a webm of some great platforming
I don't get it.

>>383062942
Crash was trash.

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>>383068150
>Watch someone else argue for me

>>383068890
This makes me want to see some more Mario/Sonic games.

>>383068895
I take it you haven't played Sunshine, there are nine stages like those in a game with ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY shines.

>>383064703
>Liking a boy because it looks like a girl
>Gay
How the fuck does that even work?
Tomboys are way gayer.

>>383069231
>I take it you haven't played Sunshine
You fucking responded to my post about how Sunshine perfected the controls you twit.

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>>383069213
M+S is great
They might make one for the upcoming one in japan

>>383069339
Then you should know how few levels have pure platforming as shown in that webm, the game's too busy having you clean Sirena Beach.

All of you are nostalgia blind. Sunshine might not be perfect, but 64 isn't nearly as good in any way, it was only impressive at the time but now it's nothing special and not even that fun when compared to many other platformers. Also Sunshine is the most comfy shit.

Rayman 2 best 64 platformer.

>>383068960
>It's 4 o'clock in the morning. Why are you making chocolate pudding?
>WAH WAH WAHOOO WEEHEEE

>>383060407
Just because it was more historically important doesn't make it better than Sunshine.

>>383060407
>japanese cover
*tips fedora*

>>383069424
A lot of levels made good use of platforming being a natural extension of the world itself rather than literal platforms. Take Noki Noki Bay in which you spend most of the time on jumping up the cliff or the ruins. Or Riko Harbor where you spend 90% of the time on the scaffolding.

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>>383069481
>Rayman 2 best 64 platformer.
What did he mean by this?

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Now that it's been almost 15 years, let's decide this once and for all.

What's the coolest jump to use to get into a portal?

>>383069764
Now compare those to Gelato Beach which is made up of three horizontal planes with little verticality, same with Pinna Park which only has a few areas with any verticality to them.

>>383070084
>Now compare
Why? The game has to be 100% platforming all the time?

>>383064806
And people think Sonic '06 is bad

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>>383069415
>tfw bowser is an actual good father to his kids and includes them in the things he does
kind of funny when a villain is a better parent than a lot of parents :(

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>>383070189
Why should a platformer not be focused on platforming at all times?

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>>383070281
>You suck at Mario Sunshine, fuck you. Game over.
Sad!

>>383061212
no you retard, sun shine has the worst controls. If you move the stick slightly, mario walks off the edge. The stick is too sensitive. Also the shitty fludd controls. Having to put different amounts of pressure on the L and R buttons is a retarded gimmick.

>>383070410
Because it can introduce other gameplay elements. Both 64 and Sunshine weren't all platforming all the time.

>>383060679
theres a bunch of good mario games with bowser jr tho, no need to masturbate mario 2006

>>383070559
>mario 2006
Stop posting this meme barneyfag

>>383065797
ayy

>>383070492
It's not a gimmick if it's used throughout the game and it's not retarded if it works in a consistent manner.

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>>383069909
Rocket nozzle ground pound.

>>383070776
mario is funny

>>383070492
No you faggot. Sunshine has the perfect level of responsiveness, the perfect momentum, and amazing control at all times. Maybe you should stop using your shitty controller and get a decent one.

>>383070558
>Both 64 and Sunshine weren't all platforming all the time.
That's not a good thing, I'd rather be platforming then run around cleaning goop off of a Pianta on a time limit or dealing with an oversized Chain Chomp.

Not better than 64, but definitely better than any game that utilizes waggle faggotry, ie Galaxy.

In terms of controls, yes it is better. Mario controls effortlessly and so fluidly with fluud. Unfortunately, some levels/missions come up short compared to Super Mario 64. I still love it though.

>>383060807
>cant control backward jump

its even worse than super mario 64, and thats the first fucking mainstream 3d plataformer ever

>>383071140
No Long Jump either, what were they thinking.

>>383064375
Don't know what it was but the black controllers were the only ones that broke for me

I always hated the secret levels

>>383071196
Probably that with the improved dive and the Hover Nozzle that it'd either be redundant or force every gap in the game to be fuckhuge.

>>383065460
Whether you think it's a woman or not, sticking your dick up something else with a dick is gay.

>>383072260
um, wow, transphobic much?????????

I don't think it's better than 64, but I do think it's better than both Galaxy games. Idk why but I fucking hated those two.

>>383072461
Probably because you have awful taste.

>>383071334
Idk both of my black controllers still work. I bet my purple and orange ones would too if I still had them.

>>383071140
>>383071196
They probably didn't want BLJ to return. That alone pretty much tore SM64's physics in half.

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>>383072617
You had an orange Cube, weren't those Japan only?

>>383072762
No, just the controller. My gamecube is black.

>>383069909
>jump into wall above it facefirst
>bonk
>fall into portal on your back

>>383060407
i love this game and i don't know how i feel about it in relation to world or 64

>>383072849
Still weren't the orange accessories exclusive to Japan?

>>383072523
okay faggot

>>383072954
US got orange controllers.

>>383071140
>control backwards jump

If you're talking about the crouch jump then that's in the game, just jump while spraying water (R might need to be held all the way down)

>>383062650
Its a mission 8 for a reason. You don't have to do it to beat the game.

Really due to the way Sunshine works, all the hidden shines and mission 8 shines are totally pointless

>>383061934
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT5Fg_sxQ5c

this guy did

>>383073116
>>383072954
Canada too! Mine was the Zelda Collector's edition, but my mum bought me a second orange controller

>>383073893
>>383073116
also to be fair if the US gets something, it's generally a safe bet that Canada gets it too (unfortunately more expensive as well)

emphasis on generally. there's a handful of things that we don't get

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>>383064806

imagine the camera lakitu following this

>>383070974
Galaxy only had one waggle and it was the simplest shit that always responded.

>>383060407
It's good but it's not great

>>383072429
The first thing i did was try to avoid someone using this point by saying that part is the one that doesn't matter. If you actually care about the transphobic shit then why not care about gay shit being okay and accept that you're a fag, you're in an anonymous image board you don't need to hide it.

>>383074690
come on man
were you not able to understand the sarcasm from the dozen question marks? or is this some odd meta-bait disguised as a genuine response

>>383073602
This is some next level apologism and I'm only halfway through.

>>383075438
I didn't think of it

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>>383076980
well then
i was kidding

>>383075193
yuck, is that you playing?
you are really bad, its painful to watch

>>383069909
Entering Bianco hills while you unlock Ricco harbor.
Shit gets crazy

>>383077252
lmao no

Is this the proper level rating?
> Ricco Harbor > Bianca Village > Pinna Park > Sirena Beach > Noki Bay > Gelato Beach > Pianta Village > Corona Mountain

>>383077782
If I remember correctly which beach is which, then yeah, that's the proper rating.

>>383077782
More like
Ricco > Bianco > heat death of the universe > Noki > Sirena > pre frontal cortex hemorrhaging > Pinna > Pianta > Gelato > Corona

>>383078021
>Noki better than Pinna
How so?

>>383065797
Come on dude

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>>383078021
>>383077782
I like Piñata Village
What's wrong with it?

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>>383078083
More verticality and the 100 coin star doesn't require sitting on the beach shooting Bullet Bills, Noki also had the best Secret level which are the game's highlights.
ALSO FUCK PINNA-8!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJYf3y6N6g

>>383078021
>Hating Sirena

Get out

>>383078320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSprgRpuirM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snIg3Xk-J4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXx6moYI8TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-m6FRuH52Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxP6b83lwI8

What isn't wrong with it? There is zero platforming in any of these stages and any area with the Chucksters is a 5/10 max.

>>383078665
You are now reminded of having to get the Shine in the casino by spraying it.

>>383078354
>https://youtu.be/LFJYf3y6N6g
Don't even know what's supposed to be hard about that.
Not trying to be a dick. Is it the double wall jump?

>>383060407
>Nintendo goes from this 64/Sunshine collectathon gameplay to fucking Mario Galaxy

They fucked up and have been fucking up ever since.

>>383078928
I'll be perfectly honest but I don't know what you're even talking about, I said I preferred Noki because it had the best Secret stage and then posted said stage.

>>383063108
Mario is not Sonic.

>>383065992
Maybe they can't swim?

>>383079065
he's right you know

>>383079053
Oh, I conflated your post with the YouTube comments.

>>383079826
Nah, for Pinna I'm talking about this stage. I hate this more than Pachinko, Chuckster and lily pad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm8-9CYdnis

>>383064375
>that guro in the last frame
Disgusting.

>>383077782
Noki Bay should be higher

>>383080675
>Noki Bay
literally a cliff with jump ropes

>>383081598
And?