MonHun World

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I'm sick of seeing the same thing

That UI looks terrible. Way too much on the screen, even if you ignore the tutorial information.

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Let's spice up this thread with a spicy(shit) opinion.

I feel like now that MHW is on every platform and it looks graphically like every other mainstream game, it has finally become too mainstream for me.

It's a normie series now, and this time not only in japan.

RIP

You better be able to turn off The Handler

I'm not against giving advice to new players, but she's annoying as hell

>"alright! the monster is tired! now is your chance to do some serious damage!"

delet

Instead of fighting monsters, I too also wanted to hide in bushes instead.

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>>383061892
I'm going to assume she's just there as a tutorial, or even just for the demo

In retrospect, it was really nice being able to shove unimportant UI elements onto another screen

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Hopefully the Handler can just be disabled or is only there for the tutorial because even during this one mission she began to grate on me. She even ended up repeating multiple tips in the one mission.

The glowbugs seem like overkill. If they just had certain monster markings and tracks around the area that could indicate to you where they were, that would have been pretty neat and made you feel more like you're actually tracking something down instead of following a glowing light. Maybe have it so you have to track and hunt the monster a few times before you can get glowbugs for it.

Mantles seemed kind of unnecessary, mainly because I thought we already had skills that did all of that stuff already.

Also disappointed they only showed GS and HBG, one of which I dislike and the other I have no real interest in. They're both pretty simple and not that interesting to watch for people new to the series, especially how it was demo'd here, so I don't think they won anyone over with that.

I really just want a demo so I can try out the weapons and stuff on my own. Hopefully that happens soon.

>>383062106
hopefully the UI will be customizable like in the 3DS games, I hate those button prompts in the top right

>>383062306
>Mantles seemed kind of unnecessary, mainly because I thought we already had skills that did all of that stuff already.
Its looks like there is going to be so changes to the skill system, so we have to see.

>>383062310
Those are there only for the demo. That should be extremely obvious.

>>383062607
The obvious thing would be to remove skills and armor slots and decorations completely in favor of these mantles since they are much simpler and don't require any actual thinking from those dirty westerners

Unlikely though, when he was going to camp there was a "skills info" tab for a brief second

>>383063034
the ones that pop up in the middle are obviously for the demo, but the ones in the top are just non-intrusive enough that they look like they could be a part of the main HUD

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Those new small monsters remind me of the most underrated dinosaur ever, I am happy for their acknowledgement.

>>383063234
No way man. They clearly look like demo/tutorial prompts. They wouldn't normally put basic controls up there like that.

>>383062310
I think what's bothering me more is the damage numbers instead of blood splatters, they're just ugly and unnecessary

I think they reduced the hitstop effect too, but I might be imagining it

>Around 12 minutes
>Trex awkwardly walking straight into a wall for like 10 seconds
Yep it's still MH
I'm worried about that fucking grappling hook being OP though, I couldn't tell if there's any actual limit on its use. I'd also rather not have those scout flies at all.

>>383063598
have you played any game made in the last 10 years

>Large box of information about the item you just collected
>Your cat telling you every time it needs to rest
>Two boxes telling you what collectables are nearby
>Giant bug in the world that instantly fully heals you

The more I see of this game the more un-hyped I get.
I still hold out hope that the item box in the camp is purely deposit only, or at least they won't let you restock on things like potions.

>>383063036
From just a brief look over it seems like each piece of armor gives a skill, like the helm they equipped had "Attack Boost Lv 1" instead of classic point system. I'm not sure how it acts with other pieces but I assume that the skills go up as many levels are there are blocks in line next to the skill name.
It's nice since it's easy I guess, but now I'm worried that the concept of negative skills won't be there anymore.

Though I'm also worried that the mantles will supplant some skills so your total choices will be less about what to choose from in terms of sets.
Thank fuck that charms are gone though.

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>>383059325
Wow that looks pretty garbage.
He only spent like 10% of the fight actively fighting the monster, the rest is just chasing after it, watching it fall into some environmental trap or looking at how monsters fight each other and run about.

Is this the kind of cinematic MH PS4 and PC owners wanted?
Really? This?

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>>383061581
Spicy and retarded aren't the same thing, anon.

>>383063683
looks like you can only use the hookshot on hookshot points, so if you fail a mount near a point you can just hop back on

Did they make greatsword charging casual or are the people running the demos not charging? I can't really tell.

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>>383063938

>>383063752
I'd tell you to go back to rebbit, but you probably already have r/monsterhunter opened in a different tab on a post where you argue with people about how "casualized and westernized" this game is going to be. Sorry your 3ds is now useless anon

>>383063765
Armor pieces still had a "slots" thing going on, so it's safe to assume you can still somehow add to the skills your default armor has

I hope it's all balanced out with how much shit mantles seem to give you on a platter, earplugs, hyper armor and tremor resistance for free?

Good lord that voice is pig disgusting. Capcom, the western audience doesn't want guild girls to be like Western whores, we want the same thing your nip audience does you fucking retards. At least you can change it back to gibberish.

>>383064057
they changed the heavy flashing to a more subtle red glow that intensifies with the charge level, also the guy in the demo doesn't do many charge attacks

>>383063750
Yeah and that shit is definitely not part of the UI. It's just basic controls for demo and tutorial purposes.

>>383064182
We don't even know if charms are really gone, they could still exist but take up one of your cloak slots for stats instead of a usable ability.

>>383064057
They're deliberately holding back doing damage so they don't kill the monster as fast and can show of other features of the world.

>>383064247
Yeah none of it looked like a traditional charge time, even with focus. I'm worried. Everything about this game is worrying.

>>383064187
We'll hopefully get JP voices along with the gibberish.

>>383064413
y-yeah that must be it... this game will be great.. vets gonna love scout flies healing them as well as being able to walk while healing and rolling out of it

>Scoutflies being a giant glowing missile to the monster
>And it shows up on the mini-map

I wouldn't mind it near as much if leveling them up just made the monster appear on the mini-map for the rest of the hunt.
I just really dislike that giant cloud of lime green.

>>383060150
Then you won't like monster hunter.

>>383064445
How dare you show concern about capcom "mixing things up" with their franchise again, you must clearly be a fan of the videogame console I don't own

>Friend I always hunt with is super hyped about MHW.
I feel betrayed.

>>383064057
People playing gameplay demos probably aren't very good at the game, and are more focused on showing basic gameplay than the more intricate mechanics

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>that machine gun HBG

is this replacing siege mode? is this going to be the new IG in that it attracts all the shitters looking to play CoD with dinosaurs?

>>383064057
They never charge with GS in gameplay demos. They always flail the GS around as if it was still MH1.

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>>383063938
I'm proud that you went for "retarded" and not "hipster" because that's what I was expecting to get honestly.

Good job.

>>383064746
Yeah, I've never seen anyone from Capcom use GS worth a damn.

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>>383064057
They're using a pretty strong greatsword for what's essentially the first wyvern / tutorial boss in low rank. It has the same 480 attack as the 4U Jawblade which seems to imply they're using the same numbers, but has quite a bit of green sharpness.

I'm not seeing any indication of armor being split into gunner and blademaster subgroups

>>383059325
Why the fuck are they talking in English and not MH's language?

>>383065056
You can toggle is to the MH language.

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>first zelda and now monster hunter going for full voice acting instead of charming universal gibberish

>>383065056
to appeal to casuals, though there's also going to be a Wyverian language option thank god

>>383064989
They might just be giving you super strong items for the demo so all the casuals get through

that's the main problem with this demo, no matter how casual every feature seems, in the end anyone could always just say "it's a demo it's probably not like that in the real game"

Is the MH franchise really doing so bad they have to bring the game down to this?
Between World and XX it makes it seem like they just don't trust the formula anymore.

>>383065143
But Zelda wasn't full voice acting.

>>383065019
It's not. Skills are also just cumulative points, you get something no matter what you wear. All those retards with one point in 50 skills will now get something for that.

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>>383064989
Jesus that UI blows, where's the character? Looks like every other 8th gen game.

>>383065172
I agree, we won't really be able to tell how good it is until we can actually get our hands on a demo. They'll probably have one on PS4 this winter. You know, with a easy (this brute wyvern probably,) medium, and hard monster to hunt.

You guys have been so desperate to hate this game since its reveal and I'm not really sure why. I always thought the monhun community on /v/ was pretty chill but this just seems like console war middle school bullshit.

Everything we've seen of the game so far just looks like more of the same to me. I doubt that a couple of new gimmicks will completely ruin the monhun formula. Not saying that the game will be good - just that nothing suggests to me that it will be bad.

>>383065261
I don't know why they're doing this. Sales seemed fine, they've been picking up steam in the West with every release, basically. Only their own incompetence with not localizing everything is hurting them.

>>383065349
Hey this guy who doesn't play monster hunter a lot thinks this game looks exactly the same, everyone please listen to him

>>383065349
>this just seems like console war middle school bullshit.
How to spot a viral shill 101.

>>383065172
Hopefully those people will kill their parents when the game comes out and it's casual garbage. I hate everyone that is too hype to see all the ways the gameplay is getting butchered.

>>383065349
>Everything we've seen of the game so far just looks like more of the same to me.
Just means you don't know shit about MH

>>383064819
Nope, just a special shot unique to that particular HBG is what they said, seems like this is their take on the internal ammo from MHX. Siege Mode is still in.

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>>383065349
Literally no one was talking about consoles until this post

>>383065487
But I do play monhun?

It's the same fucking game but with environmental hazards and glow bugs.

>oh no they sped up gathering and healing
Really nigger?

As long as the core combat is the same the game will probably be good.

>>383065745
Core combat won't matter in this game because you kill monsters through monster vs monster cinematic encounters and environmental damage.

>>383065690
Not in this thread but 90% of all the other threads about this game are just Sony vs Nintendo shitposting.

>>383065391
I am looking forward to playing it like a normal person, glad i don't have to be some autistic loser and play with a child's handheld. played on the PSP when i was in highschool but you shouldn't play a handheld once you become an adult.

>>383065690
World Defense Force only has two attacks, 'it's only a demo' and 'console fanboy'. Console fanboy can easily be dodged with base i-frames but Demo needs either Release Date +2 or you have to superman it.

>>383065261
To be honest I kinda wanted them to shake up the formula again but I didn't exactly want this. I'm glad swimming is back but I'm probably skipping the first iteration of this because it's the first game in a gen and it's probably missing boatloads of content, and because I'm not sure if I like the changes.

>>383065563
It's mostly just people who saw the game once or twice on youtube and don't realize all the blatant changes to appeal to the dudebro crowd, not much we can do but let the game launch and speak for itself

I can understand the whole moving while eating and drinking change but that doesn't mean they had to get rid of the flex animation.

>>383065969
I don't think swimming is back though.

>>383064187
>>383064446
In the japanese stream they confirmed you can turn off voices or change it to gibberish like older MH titles

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This shit wouldn't be anywhere near as concerning if they just showed options to turn off all this ezmode stuff, but it looks like the game is built around it, so you either cant turn it off or end up crippling yourself and/or teammates if you do. At the very least I hope they give us an option to fix the saturation, 'muh western cinematic style' is a stupid reason to make it look so washed out.

>>383065850
That's an awfully big assumption to make on the basis of two videos anon. Obviously they're gonna try to focus on their big new shit gimmicks in the trailer but I doubt that the infighting thing happens that often, and the game is probably designed around the environmental stuff.

Again, no way to really know without more footage.

>>383065969
Swimming isn't back it's just an extended loading screen now, you don't fight in the water.

>no more separate sets for Blademasters and Gunners
>gunners can move while shooting
Christ, they really are catering to casuals now

>>383066016
don't you like out new "rub elbow on mouth" instead :^)

>>383066061
There's bodies of water to swim in, instead of invisible walls on the water like in all non-tri games, but there's no fighting monsters in water. They showed one segment where you had to swim underwater to pass between areas, and there's probably some things you gather underwater like clams or disc stones or something.

My question is what does the item box hold in the camp cause if it allows item retrieval during mission this is kinda lame.

>>383059325
Monster Hunter finally gets an entry that looks like a REAL game. Praise Sony.

Any footage of the Charge Blade in World? I wanna jack off

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>>383066061
>>383066157
Fuck me then.

>>383066187
>no defense penalty for playing gunner shit
it's going to be a fun time for all those CoD babies

>>383066078
It looks so much better, holy shit

>>383066378
It would be nice to have it hold shit like cold and hot drinks in case you forget shit like that going to a cold or hot area, but I feel like healing items would make things a bit too easy

>returning to CAMP in 30 seconds
>not a minute
>camp

WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS BROS?

>>383066590
Stuff like traps too, since the whole justification of being able to change your loadout is so you can hunt multiple monsters without having to go back to town.

>>383066112
You are forgetting that autistic people don't like change no matter the form, these threads can be summed up as man children squeezing their anime skinned 3DS as their body fat ripples with rage.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CHANGE

>>383066767
Bu then there is no challenge.

>>383066590
I personally think even that is too easy, I say if you're gonna do stuff like that, leave hot peppers in the box, make the player can go out, kill a popo, cook it and then use the pepper to make hot meat rather than giving them a freebie.

>>383066675
You are still in the stage even after the quest ends.

>>383065143
You can use the old "voices", dumbass

>>383066813
Does mom let you make strawmen that big

>>383066926
Nigga there's already grapplepoints and envirotraps everywhere, drop in multiplayer, and huge monster on monster damage. The game will only be challenging if you ignore most of its features.

>last MH I played was P3rd on the PSP
>haven't touched the later ones at all
>see this shit
Holy fuck, so this is what happens when a franchise is held hostage on a Nintendo console for too long.

>>383065143
Gibberish is an option.

>>383067239
>The game will only be challenging if you ignore most of its features
more assumptions

>>383066435
Are you retarded? They literally tell you that using different weapons change the damage you take. The same guy using a HBG took much more damage with the same armor than when he was using GS.

>>383067304
Hostage??? More like the only people that bought it ever were japs and the Vita sucked and 3DS rocked and japs love handhelds.

>>383066078
>option to fix the saturation
You can change the saturation of your TV

>>383063921
It's almost as if they are showing the game's new features.

>>383067385
The armor doesn't denote that, having that some be
some hidden value is even more retarded and unintuative to new players

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>>383059325
>casuals and twitch steamers are gonna watch this and think it's just some EZPZ monster hunting game
>buy it and proceed to get their shit pushed in
>sudden influx of videos (and maybe even threads) bitching about the difficulty
>the phrase "artificial difficulty" makes a comeback
It's gonna be beautiful.

>>383067453
I see you know nothing about Capcom's business practices.

>>383067635
>implying they won't just use a flare and let other people kill stuff for them while they sit back and play "support" HH

>>383067340
You know what they say about assumptions? You, me and your asshole are going to have a date when this turd plops out.

>>383067635
That happened with DeS and they panned and whined about it, then a few of them decided it was good and suddenly they were all "preparing to die XD".

>>383067453
>3DS rocked
So are you under 18 or just a loser?

>>383067635
>artificial difficulty
>not HUNTING SOULS

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>custom mods

I'm assuming that's just power barrel/shield/silencer

It's nice that the launcher is an armor fixture and will change appearance depending on your gauntlets

>>383064162
Its going to be shit you faggot

>>383067635
Or even better
>casuals and twitch streamers buy it
>beat it in a week because it's the easiest MH yet
>everyone loses interest and online falls to hackers
>Capcom never makes another monster hunter again

>>383067635
I can just see the box quotes now
>It's the Dark Souls of Monster Hunter!
>It's a step above Dark Souls!
>Prepare to Hunt!

>>383059325
>few feet on a monster thats supposedly "smells and hears you"
>doesnt see you
I really do hope the ai isn't a retard on this one

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>>383067635
>the dark souls of monster hunter
Mark my fucking words.

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>>383065161
Consider people "casuals" or whatever because they want voice acting? You have any idea how much of a sniveling faggot you sound like saying that?

Just what are casuals exactly anyway? People with actual jobs who don't leech off the government/their parents like a shameless parasite and who have relationships with real people and aren't permavirgins?

Really gets the neurons going

>>383067635
People put up with Souls, they'll put up with MH.
Of course there will be a huge new annoying memewank of "MH Hard" games when MH has never been harder than even the easier SHMUP around.
Then again, the game's niche in the west so it's perfect for the average "Hardcore" following.

>>383068081
The monster pretty much steps on him and clips through him in that new demo. Stupid as fuck, poorly implemented horseshit.

>>383067635
>implying twitch cancer and youtube LPers won't act on this on purpose and capitalize on fake "OH GOD I'M GETTING WRECKED HELP XD" shit

Happens in so many games.
I hope you're also looking forward to hearing people say "I'm trying that sodapoppin gs set it's really cool check his vids he posted it"

>>383067635
>he thinks this happens
>he forgets people start memeing about the difficulty and it becomes the next buzzword like Dark Souls

>>383063506
ITT: Shills

I wish these threads were tagged by what monhun the person in question started with. Having started with MH1 I consider my opinion pretty top tier and I include FUbros there. Tribabs are bottom tier and 4u friends are middle tier.

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>>383067323
First I've heard of it

That's a relief

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>voice acting
>that UI
>MUH REALISM graphics

im only two minutes in ill shitpost more as i go

>>383068081
It'll be even worse because it now targets small and large monsters. The AI has always gone full retard when it has more than one target. People will praise this as immersive.

>>383067880
Ah cool, so the gatling gun is just straight up internal ammo like MHX. I like that they're keeping that, makes guns feel more unique. Wonder if Rathalos HBG will have something like a flamethrower ammo.

I hope GaijinHunter's child dies in front of him.

>>383061892
Every 3ds MH had those, only they actually stopped the entire action until you stopped scrolling it's tutorial text.

>>383068459
or don't

>>383066078
>At the very least I hope they give us an option to fix the saturation, 'muh western cinematic style' is a stupid reason to make it look so washed out.

You can use SweetFX on PC :^)

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>>383059325
>voice acting
>hallways instead of zones
>environment items
>monsters hunting monsters
>super speedy weapon sheathing
>auto tracking
>20 hour mounting minigame
>flashy attacks
>""""""""""stealth""""""""""
>3D maneuvering gear
>chug and run items
W-we did it, reddit.

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ITT: mental illness

I never knew until this monster hunter fiasco what insufferable faggot crybaby dipshits Nintendo fans were

So this is how Monster Hunter dies... with thunderous applause.

>>383068847
That guy is the biggest shill.
>can't have XX? no worries just buy the spin off rpg to send capcom a message!

>>383068891
Pat pls.

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>>383068180
>Some review out there will say this

>grapple hooks and slingshot traps
>scout flies
>flashbang flies
>healing ball of flying piss flies
MHW is going to be Benny Hill chases and cowboy rides for 20 minutes isn't it? I see no reason to even bring tools if all the maps function with these types of features, probably won't have to use said features all that much since you can just whip into shooty or slashybashy when you're done breaking parts/tails.
Even have a fast travel installed for convenience.

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>>383068891
>everyone who hates on MHW is a nintenbro

I hope you can turn off all this tutorial voiced partner shit and the thing that tells you your controls right from the start.

>>383059325
Why it looks so lifeless? Graphics are superior but feels so dead.

>>383067562
In the video you can see that the GS had a note that it increased physical defense, the HBG increased elemental defense instead

Apparently it's a pretty significant value changed

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Any one notice the farm spots are just
>pick up this item here
idk kinda irks me.

>People who don't like MH see MH
>"Wow I always wanted to hunt monsters, but.. [reasons why current MH isn't good for them]"
>get devs to make a new game that appeals to them
>"Awesome, finally an MH for people like me who don't really like MH!"
>proceed to not buy it, game only reaches 2.5-3m sales and Capcom goes back to making normal games

Why do people from the "outside" always barge into some kind of niche communities or hobbies and demand change? This infuriates me.

>>383064989
What the hell is that thing in the bottom right corner?

>>383068078
>>383068180
>tfw this has an almost 100% chance of happening

Kill me, Pete

>>383069498
>2.5 to 3m sales
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>383069594
Seems about right to me, what do you think?

>>383069560
Kinsects.

>>383068583
>stealth
>trail leading to monster
>environment hazards for monsters
>that over done qte mounting that lasts forever
>grapple making it super easy
>DAMAGE NUMBERS
>that instant sheathing
>changing weapons and armor mid hunt

i skimmed the rest i couldnt take it
what the fuck is this bullshit

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>>383069349
>No more asymmetrical gunner armor with the heavy left side compared to the blademaster one

I am sad now.

>>383069646
Not him 1.5 at best

>>383069325
Probably using Unreal Engine which makes everything look shit that isn't made by ArcSys

>>383069646
will be less than that

If it wasn't for the fireflies, I'd have said this looks really promising.

>>383069446
Can't have RNG, only Japs like that. While I don't really mind the RNG going way, it irks me that you just walk by it and pick it up while moving. Taking time to gather meant you had to be careful to make sure there wasn't anything around to hit you, now it's just walk by and press a button to instantly get the item.

>>383059325
It didn't look good to me. I really like the improved graphics and no loading screens, but somehow gameplay wise it looked worse than the past Monster Hunters.

>>383067635
Is MHW the Dark Souls of video games? Of ARPGs?

>>383069315
It sucks but viral marketers finally figured out how to tweak anonymous boards efficiently.

>>383069702
Making two armors for each of the 15 monsters would be too hard.

>>383069646
Unless the game gets heavily shilled by streamers, I don't think it will make that much.

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>>383069702
Man that shit was always so much uglier than the Blademaster sets

Only good Gunner sets were Hornet, Rathian and Seltas

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>tfw normies already have thousands of games catering to them from uncharted to tlou to new god of war to bioshock to skyrim to fallout to tomb raider to horizon to basically everything I can think of
>I'm not allowed to keep my Monster Hunter as it is, no, it too has to change and appeal to them

pic literally me

>>383069725
Can someone explain to me why people are sperging out so hard about the flies

Monhun has psychoserum, which literally instantly reveals where the monster is
Most hunts you just run to where the monster spawns since you already know where he is anyway

why the fuck do the flies even matter so much

>>383069702
There is a heavy left side. The shoulder pad was much bigger than the right.

Can't wait to see the Jap sales for this. It's going to be a disaster.

>>383069752
>MHX too fast? Now we sped up EVERYTHING

>>383069963
>yfw it does well and this is monster hunter from now on

>>383069701
>grapple making it super easy
>DAMAGE NUMBERS
>changing weapons and armor mid hunt

The rest of those complaints I get but these are straight up improvements

>>383069971
It's not about the tracking, it's just how visual and in your face it is, that's all. I have no problem with the "tracking" aspect of it.

>>383069971
I'm not sperging about it but it's visually intrusive and I hope you can lower the effects or toggle them off.

>>383069963
This happened already to long time fans with tri then again with mounting and again with gen. We survived and you will too.

>>383069971
Not him and I'm ok with flies but I hate how big the effect is and how noticeable it is. It's way too prominent, needs to be toned down.

Shit's glowing all over my screen.

>>383069719
Nah, i think is because they went to make the world look "realistic" and that, ironically, makes it look less alive. They should have made the world look colorful.

>>383064527
>just made the monster appear on the mini-map for the rest of the hunt
For the love of god, this.
It's like when Saints Row went from showing your driving path by highlighting streets on the minimap to having full out giant arrows blinking in every intersection.
It's one thing to let the player know where to go but it doesn't need to be the most obvious thing in the world.

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I don't even care what is casualized about it. This game will be so much easier to get friends to play with me which is always the best part of MH anyway.

You can always handicap yourself to make the game harder.

And since it's coming to PC, you can make as many XTREME MODE mods as you want.

>>383070070
>>383070143
>>383070148
Thank you for the response, that's valid

enjoy your days

>>383069971
They look like shit, and since most of the game looks pretty dark, they fucking almost blind you with how bright they are.

>>383069971
Because they're a giant glowing LOOK AT THIS GO HERE PRESS X TO LOCATE MONSTER that takes a fat ogre shit on any kind of thought or environmental awareness that you'd think would go into tracking

>>383070069
>casualization is improvement

>>383070034
I would honestly prefer that it fails and the series is laid to rest forever, and I fucking love Monster Hunter. I would sacrifice my marriage and my firstborn child to prevent the casualization of this series if I could.

>>383070258
MH multiplayer is garbage once you go above 2 people.
Monsters don't scale for it, they just die helplessly in 3 minutes.

>>383069752
>Taking time to gather meant you had to be careful to make sure there wasn't anything around to hit you
Nigga no you didn't. What was gonna happen if you didn't look before you grabbed? A Jaggi hits you for 1/1000th of your health and you have to re-do the animation? If there was a large monster in the area then you'd automatically know based on what music was playing. There was no strategy or skill to picking flowers and catching bugs, it was just a matter of finding a node and button mashing until it was over.

>>383069701
>Good
>Good
>Good
>Neutral
>Bad
>Optional, you can turn it off
>Exaggerated
>Good

>>383064521
>gonna love scout flies healing them
Nice to see you were paying attention since that never happened.

>>383070337
It already happened with tri.

>>383070337
a-at least its on pc like we always wanted r-right?

>>383069325
I think it's the UI and generic Kmmo visuals, everything is so smooth and mainstreamed with magical effects and glowing damage numbers. It's been done a dozen times and it all blurs into this samey look.

All these shitty changes and they still don't remove the timer.

>Tracking a monster using tracking bugs that follow tracks, poo, mucus, etc is somehow worse that magically tracking enemies with Psychoserum, Paintballs, and just having the enemy spawn and sleep in fixed locations each time

Nah you oldies can fuck off with that one.

It died so quickly :<

>>383070339
So take basic weapons and armor with no upgrades

Do a naked run

CAPCOM STOP. ARE THOSE MECHANICS NOT PRESENT IN MH1??? I NEED TO BUY THE EXACT SAME GAME AGAIN BUT WITH A STUPID GIMMICK. DO NOT TRY ANYTHING NEW. IF IT'S ANYTHING BEYOND SMACK 'N' ROLL COMBAT I WILL FREAK. MORE THAN A DECADE OF THE SAME GAME ISN'T ENOUGH.

>tfw you been on /v/ so long you can tell everyone is just trolling for the sake of culture and just wants to push fake arguments for discussion and everyone is actually going to buy this and love it

Its a curse and a blessing, my wisdom.

>>383070583
>Giant fucking cloud of GO HERE bugs are better than a dot on a map

Nah, you newbies can fuck off with that one

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>>383069498
I don't know man , It also makes me mad, and when you criticize the changes you are ether callled a nintenbro or an elitist.

>>383070583
The reason people hate it is because of how shitty it looks and how in your face it is.

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Haven't watched the latest videos yet. How are the Insect Glaive and Charge Blade doing?

>>383070717
If you can't tell then you really haven't been here that long.

Anyone who's complaining about the new gimmicks they showed off hasn't played a lot of MH games.
They always make new mechanics and features deliberately very underpowered so that they don't overshadow the core gameplay. They're just trailer bait, not using any of them will actually always be the most effective way to play.

>>383070741
You dont even have to use the bugs. Plus once you find the monster it stays on your map bug or not.

>>383070717
I'm going to pirate it and mildly enjoy it but it doesn't look like it will have the same 1000hr+ addictiveness of the previous games.

>>383070339
Stop HAMEing, it's not fun.

>>383070910
>They always make new mechanics and features deliberately very underpowered so that they don't overshadow the core gameplay
Did you not play X?

>>383070864
They exist

>>383070316
Every single hunter worth their salt has already figured out damage zones three fucking games ago, this is not something new. Its just a quality of life improvement.

>>383070573
The timer is a weird irrelevant thing in all but the most irritating end game quests. I'm glad it exists so shitters can get shattered on Barroth or whatever though.

>>383070583
>muh immersion
Dots on your map and fixed spawns add consistency, meaning less randomness, faster kill times and more efficient grinding.

>>383071128
So there's been no info yet? Damn.

>>383070717
Your wisdom is garbage, this game looks awful and I'd pirate it at best, doubt it though.

>>383070339
This. Two people is fun. More is rape.

>>383071252
Stop ruining this game by turning it into a speedrun and montage clip kind of game.

>>383071283
The soothsayer has spoken. You WILL purchase MHW.

>>383071098
You mean the same X where the most relevant thing to come out of styles and arts was infinite sharpness and invulnerable dives for everyone, and all the other arts that weren't just straight damage buffs were worthless? And Adept was only even good on like 2 weapons, while aerial was trash in general?

>>383059325
I'm trying to be optimistic but I really don't like the grappling hook.

Everyone was already complaining about how IG and aerial was trivializing hunts, this looks just as bad if not worse unless they heavily change mounting mechanics.

>>383071518
Speedruns and grinding are what this series has been about since the PS2 days.

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>>383071098
Did ANYONE play X? I could understand adept being a crutch for shitty players, but the vast majority of hunter arts were wildly impractical due to being slow and hard to pull off safely compared to the actual payoff of the attack. The few good weapon specific ones were mostly passive self buffs.

The only broken ones were the absolute evades because they were universally great for avoiding damage and repositioning, and charged ridiculously quickly on top of that, to the point where a competent player could use absolute readiness to maintain infinite sharpness.

>>383071729
Lance had great arts, SA had great arts, Longsword had great arts, I liked the charge of the gunlance too

>>383071252
Yeah but consistency also adds monotony. This ain't street fighter, theres no reason everything has to be 100% the same every time

>>383071725
Maybe for you. For plenty of other people they're just about killing monsters with friends

>>383071578
>Aerial allows you to exploit the already very exploitable mounting mechanics introduced and poorly balanced from 4
>Adept allows you to completely negate damage after you've used it for an hour and learned dodge timing
>This isn't overpowered because there are also shitty ones in the lot
>Only by using Guild style could you get the "core gameplay" of the previous games
Styles broke the game if you knew which ones to use and how to use them. There were underpowered ones in the lot, sure, but aerial Switch Axe and adept bowguns were bullshit enough on their own.

>>383071729
Funnily enough they're making the exact same mistake in World too. All the new moveset additions are all flash and no practicality. You're going to see everyone still using the exact same moves as in all the previous games, and completely ignoring all the new moves, because Capcom doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.

>>383059325

>the amount of times you can get hit without coming even close to dying

Holy shit I never actually looked at the videos for this. This is stupid as hell.

>>383067720
>He doesn't play HH
You are missing some of the most fun you can have in MH

>>383072165
You guys are just looking for things to bitch about. Hes basically fighting the first Drome of the game using its own armor.

It looks fun

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>>383059325

>9:16
>HE FUCKING CANCELS A GS SWING

This game is actually dead. No longer are attacks commitments, you can just get out of your decision if you don't like it.

>>383071831
I'll give you LS, but I don't really see what the other two have besides their self buffs. Spiral thrust seems alright, but speedrunners seem to prefer taking both evades and guard rage.

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>no load between areas in egg carrying missions

>>383072297
Hunting Horn is fine, but staying out of the fight and just playing songs makes you a scrub.

>>383072305

>that trex
>drome

Have you played this series? That monster looks to be at least above kut ku level, dromes aren't shit.

>>383072498
thought you were joking

what the HECK

>>383071990
Aerial had fucking awful kill times and didn't work at all against anything remotely threatening.

>>383072613
>no load between areas in egg carrying missions
dios mio

>>383072305
The drome is the great jagras, anjanath is probably closer to barroth or tetsucabra

>>383072498
Frontier allows you to cancel GS charges AND it makes you completely immune to knockback while charging and it's the hardest game in the franchise.

>>383072498
I see no animation cancels at all. Just uncharged attacks and backswings

>>383072517
Not everything has to be geared for speedrunners.

>>383072498
I don't know, it looked like a charge cancel to me.
He did run forward a few steps like he was building up then changed his mind.

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>>383059325
>HBG got a massive upgrade
>when it's the most consistently powerful weapon the series

>>383072896
not everything has to be geared for casuals

>>383072663
its armor is rarity level 1 with 16 defense per piece, that's absolute early game trash fodder level barely above the great jagras.

>>383072498
You could always roll after a swing retard.

>>383072970
>jagras
4/10 you tried

>>383071260
Nah, we've only seen GS (looks basically the same, might have a slightly new combo? Hard to tell when the demo players never use charge attacks) and HBG (can move slowly while shooting now). But every weapon type is confirmed to exist.

>>383072896
speedruns are generally a good indication of what's actually worth using. the vast majority of HAs are straight up inferior to just playing normally.

>>383067720
>"support" HH
Please no. I can't take any more bad HH players.

>>383072965
Just because you'd rather use a fun weapon art and take 30 seconds longer to kill a monster than a speedrunner taking absolute evade doesn't mean you're a casual.

>>383071098
Most arts were shit besides free dodge + sharpen/reload. Only SA got really busted ones, Lance and LS got some decent ones.

>>383069910
>Forgetting nibelsnarf and sand barrioth armors
For shame anon

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>>383072498
>Didn't follow up the shoulder bash with the swing
>Still a shit ton of recovery frames
>WOW IT'S SHIT

Got tired of Arms yet, Nintenbro?

>The small Jaggi like monsters runs away instead off being an asshole and knocks you down while you're fighting a bigger monster.

Let's just hope this applies to all the small monsters so we don't get another Konchu or Bullfango interrupting your GS charge attack.

>>383059325

Noice.
Glad to have MonHun back home on PS4

>>383059325
I'd be OK with that video if it weren't for the scoutflies and focus camera. They won't remove those things so I probably won't be playing this. It's like they don't think we'll be able to see the giant fucking dinosaur footprints and leavings. Please don't handlhold. The ecosystem thing is pretty neat though. I'm glad they finally expanded on that.

>>383073162
>30 seconds
more like 5 minutes. you underestimate how much trying to have "fun" gimps you in MH.

>>383073162
>invoking the casual's rosary
lmoa

>>383073295
Small monsters have been doing this since Tri, and there will always be exceptions to it

How poorly balanced are you expecting the weapons to be in this one? Every MH has one weapon that's 30-50% faster than everything else

>>383073295
Whatever Great Jaggi or -drome equivalents that are around will still probably have their pack of assholes following them
Blangonga was always the worst with that

>>383073367
I don't underestimate anything, I probably have more hours in one MH game than you have in all combined.

>>383059325
Why have the damage numbers? There's no healthbar so why fucking bother. It only serves to dumb down the game.

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>scrolled through the thread in 10s
>didn't see any wojaks

losing your edge /v/

>>383073367
Are you seriously arguing this or just memeing, because this is a fucking stupid train of thought

>>383073471
HH will get one neat thing that is objectively better than anything else they add and it'll be a one-trick pony

;_;

>>383073362
I think someone said that you can disable Scoutflies by not bringing the jar of em in your inventory, but I dunno if that was legit info or someone just talking out their ass

>>383069701
Changing weapons mid hunt is something I wanted to get implemented back when they started adding multiple monster quests that had different elemental weaknesses, seeing it implemented now is a dream come true for me.

>>383073471
Motion values and whether or not the new moves are worth a damn will decide, but we can probably expect the more HA reliant weapons like SA and lance to drop a bit

>>383073521
Good indicator on where you may want to aim your attacks

>>383059325

Finally got around to watching this footage

I don't like how this looks at all, too much Ariel movement

So how will capcom fuck the gunlance some more this time around? I say shells are ammo now and you're limited to 20 per hunt. Wyvern fire uses 5

what the fuck are they thinking with these new attacks? they all take fucking forever to do, how are they expecting you to land these? especially that new LS super move, the whole thing takes like 4-5 seconds.
Why can't capcom just keep it fucking simple? Simple works. This shit DOES NOT WORK.

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Have we seen any sexy female armors yet

>>383073521
So casuals and normies can see the epic huge damage they're doing! Dude check it out, I just swung my sword and a giant 500 filled the entire screen! Awesome!

>>383066412
>>383066061
Swimming is back. it was shown in the reveal trailer or whichever video but I saw it

This game is a shitty casualized spinoff, the real series will be on switch.

:^)

>>383073851
Capcom doesn't give a shit about efficiency or balance, they just make shit that they think looks cool and then add random numbers to them with no testing

>>383073713
But blood spray and hitstop already gave an indication of where a monster was weak

>>383073713
That's what the hitsparks were for

>>383068235
>when MH has never been harder than even the easier SHMUP around
4U is definitely harder than Battle Garegga or Ikaruga

>>383074007
You're trying to be an ebin falseflagger, but you're actually right.

Switch will keep getting MH because Capcom can't afford to ignore the huge handheld audience in Japan.
And since the Switch is region free...

>>383073521
because lol motion values
there was never any good indication of how much damage your attacks actually did, an attack could look really powerful but actually be way too weak to use

>>383073870
It's being marketed heavily for the west, there will be no sexy female armors anon.

I've never played a monster hunter before but this looks fun and I'll buy it. The armor he switched to near the end of the demo looked cool, I hope there's good variety in how they look and I'm not forced to use ugly gear just because it's better in every way than the cool stuff.

The only console I own is an xbox so I'll get it for that. I'm literally the "casual western audience" that a lot of the diehards are shitting on. Whatever, the game looks fun, but fun I apparently a buzzword these days instead of the entire reason you should play a game

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>New MonHun generation happens
>Everyone bitches about casualization
>People buy it anyways
>Anyone whose played a MonHun game never really dies to anything until somewhere around high rank
>Then gets shit-slapped by some end-game Rajang then bitches about artificial difficulty on an aborigine chitlin eating forum

Every new generation ever, except this time with 10x the console shitposting.

>>383074256
We really care about the opinion of someone who never played any MH

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>>383067635
I can't wait.

>>383074256
>I hope there's good variety in how they look and I'm not forced to use ugly gear just because it's better in every way than the cool stuff.
pffffhahahaha
I'm so sorry
MH players call endgame sets clownsuits for a reason

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https://youtu.be/zNfK-YqLUbU?t=6m53s

6m53s

look at those fucking GS hit effects and sounds
HAHAHA OH WOW
What went wrong?

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>>383070486
>it already happened with tri
>tri had swimming

wew lad, are you retarded or something?

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>>383074515
>transmog is going to be stuck in XX forever

>>383074256
>needing armor skills
>needing defense
>not just rolling with what looks cool

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>finding it again is very easy thanks to the help from the Scoutfly, who have already locked to its scent

Yes, and removed all the HUNT challenge from the game. What a bullshit move. I hope that the scoutflies become useless past village quests or whatever. Like monsters become to sneaky for them or some horse shit.

The damage numbers are silly too. You could probably accomplish the same effect with a better visual cue like stagger or scaled slash particle effects. Anything but flat numbers; it's really immersion breaking.

I think the fact that there's no more blood splatter and that all weapon hits sound the same is what bothers me the most so far. What's the fucking point of removing that? It's one of the most satisfying things about MH.

>>383067635
>>buy it and proceed to get their shit pushed in

Not gonna happen with the new pot system bud. Specially now that is confirmed we can even grab more pots off the chest when we run out. If the game doesn't have G rank either, it will be massively casualized

>>383074724
>MH
>Hunt challenge
LMAO

>>383074724
Let's not pretend that following a pink dot on the map was any more challenging

>>383074724
>HUNT challenge
You mean paintballing and looking at the map?

Either way, you know where the monster is and you're just going to sprint to them with or without scoutflies

>>383073521
It doesn't matter how much health the monster has, its just there to show you how much damage your attacks are doing in relation to both your other attacks and other spots on the monster's body. I spent a ton of time back in MHFU doing shit damage with GS because I overestimated how much damage charge attacks did and didn't even bother using the other attacks. I cut my times in half once I looked up damage values, this just makes that process easier.

>>383074724
>monster always spawns in the same area every time without fail
>paint ball will tell you where to go at all times
>psycho drug exists
Yeah, the "hunt"

I get it. I have been on hunts where I lost track of the monster for upwards of 20 minutes because I change areas just as they come into the area; but I learned my lesson and packed items to alleviate it. I don't need a saddle point strategy that I'd be a fool to ignore removing all the hunting from Monster Hunter.

>>383072498
>>383072698
Isn't that the shoulder charge move though?

>>383074938
>psychoserum
>Not just waving at the balloon

>>383074668
MHW's director LOATHES the idea of transmog because he firmly believes that players should have to make sacrifices for self expression, or give up on their preferences for greater efficiency.
His core design philosophy is "restrictions in freedom".

>>383075020
Well it doesn't always spawn but yeah that too

>>383075024
Most retarded idea ever. Transmog is nothing but positive.

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>MonHun no longer looks like a Ps2 game
>MonHun freed from Nintendo's grubby clutches

You have come back under my command.

>>383074949
>blindly running around the map for 15 minutes is fun or challenging

>>383074724
you can turn the numbers off

>>383064162
stop being a bitch just because I find those additions to ruin the game by making it way too much easier.
And by the gameplay we have seen, the AI doesn't look so ferocious either

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>>383069971
>psychoserum
Do you get psychoserum at the start of the game?
No you dont.
Its are rarity 3 item which is not intrusive, can only be used 3 times and doesn't take up the whole screen with fucking particle effects.

>>383067720
Corner Horners, Combo GS, and Warlock CB are the worst

>>383074840
>>383074848
>>383074849
>>383074874
>>383074938

Why not take this game as an opportunity to expand on the hunting then? We have all these environmental cues that say a monster has been around here including tracks and mucus. Why not go further and put environmental damage, dead monster, and other things as well. Make paintballs weaker, have psychosyrum maybe only nudge you in the right direction instead of betraying the monster location completely.

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>fail the mount
>just get back on

wtf are you doing CAPCOM???

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>>383075298
>Warlock CB

This is literally the first time I've heard of this.

>>383075201

You and I have a very different definition of fun hombre
never meet me in a dark ally because i'll tell you where to shove your nonsense opinion

>>383075336
>Why not go further and put environmental damage
We already have that in MHW. It's how you kill monsters :^)

>>383075281
you can buy it at the very beginning of mhfu and mhp3rd, i sold my 3ds so dont know about 4u or gen, and theres almost always an early game armor you can make that has the effect too

>>383059325
>full voice acting

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>383075336
It is expanded. You don't know the monster location at the start and you gather clues. Once you have enough, it gives you the location. That alone is WAY expanded from the other MH games.

>>383075343
The french complained too much, and they didn't want to lose their precious french audience.

>>383075396
It's a CB who only goes for Ultra AED attacks. Basically farms charge, red shield, blows it on one big attack (which will miss the monster and hit you), and that's all they do. It's annoying and embarrassing.

>>383067720
I actually start off all monsters encounters with a quick double AuL buff, far away from the monster, so the roar doesn't interrupt me. then I go in and start attacking

is this bad practice

>>383075343
it costs some of the stamina gauge at least

Scoutflies are shit, but so are paintballs and psychoserum. Just get rid of them all.

>>383075281
Don't most MH games from FU on start you with an armor set that marks the monster?

>>383075521
You can change it to the usual gibberish in the options.

>>383075521
you can change it to jp or regular monhun gibberish

>>383075336
Aren't those all already in?

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>>383075559
>It's a CB who only goes for Ultra AED attacks

This must be a nightmare to deal with in Gen/XX, the game where it's not worth using at all.

>>383075637
>>383075650
Oh good. Had me scared for a minute. It's just not the same without all the grunting or guild girls cute noises.

>>383075632
>>383075469
I honestly cant remember the start of FU too much haven't played it in years, but I don't believe so

>>383070258
>mods
>pc

no you wont be able to add new missions to "online" modes

>even more ledges and uneven terrain
Jesus christ. I give it 2 more gens until any trace of flat terrain remains on any map

>>383075343
>JE SUIS M-
>JE SUI-
>JE SUIS MONT-
>JE SUITS MONTE
>French player has carted for the second time

>>383075905
Capcom doesn't seem to understand why people play these games. Literally every single new addition past FU has only made MH worse.

>>383075652
>>383075532

That's why it's so hilarious that they completely undercut their purpose by putting giant glowing Navi-esque particle effects so that you don't miss them. Why have clues that a monster has been somewhere, i.e. things that I should have to look for, if you're just going to shove it in my face effectively doing the looking for me? It's a great step forward, but a great big step back as well.

>>383075608
And hunt monsters in a monster hunting game? What are you, daft??

>>383073063
>looks basically the same, might have a slightly new combo? Hard to tell when the demo players never use charge attacks

it has a new roll attack with hyper armor in it that can lead to a quick charge probably

and now there is a third level of charge that hits twice

>>383075024
Honestly I like people's appearance reflecting their actual gear rather than cosmetic armor, and that goes for more than just MH. But I'm also an autist who doesn't mind figuring out half decent looking clowsuits.

>literally all I wanted from MH5 was for them to balance elemental vs raw, try their hand at a few improved underwater fights again and put it on anything other than the 3ds with better visuals

I didn't ask for this... I didn't..

>>383072498
Are you retarded or just blind? Its a new shoulder bash move.

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>>383076043
actually in the video, its implied that you have to actually hunt the monster first before you can just easily sic em with scout flies by gathering enough data points like footprints and left over residue

None of these new moves will ever be used at all, mark my words
What dominates in MH are fast, high burst damage spammable attacks, and none of the new attacks they've shown off are this.

>>383059325
I don't even use GS but that is fucking painful to watch, how can he be so fucking bad at it.

>>383076382
>I have autism and only do whatever leads me to the fastest kill time even if it's less fun

>>383075851
Dunno what you mean by mission but plenty of online games have mods that modify gameplay and difficulty.

Just look at Dark Souls

>>383074616
Give someone tri then give them FU and tell me which one they find harder.

>>383075850
yea you can, hunters armor which is available pretty much at the start gives psychic

>>383076493
yes but, you have to connect to capcom servers since their thing is server based

>>383076490
>using shitty impractical attacks is fun
>playing the game badly is fun

>Unlimited potions and other healing items while on hunts