MMORPG

that must run like shit on a ps4

>>383055034
but i do like it

>>383056410
imagine being a PS3 player in that battle

WoW is better desu

>>383056410
It runs fine, the ps4 runs the game at its high pre set by default and you can still adjust the settings, I turn off other players animations in big fights like that not for performance but because I can't see a fucking thing as a melee
The game isn't that resource intensive and if you want to meme about hardware holding it back then right now it's the majority of pcs holding things back

>>383057201
said no one ever

>>383057201
used to*

>>383055034
So even the pinnacle is still shit huh, who knew?

That's an open world hunt. You don't play this game for open world hunts.

>>383055034

>stormblood.webm
>Video is from Heavensward
>Video is of an actual open world sandbox boss fight, not the themepark content the game is known for, thus undermining OP's own argument

Hmm....

>>383057201
retard

>>383055034
That's not even stormblood though

How long til the autist shows up and starts having a meltdown over one ff14 thread when there are how many overwatch and splatoon threads in the catalog right now

>>383055034

At this point I just watch the ground for aoe's and my hp bar/conditions. I want to puke but its addicting

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>>383057789
Just counted, 23 combined threads that are either overwatch or splatoon, 6 waifu threads, 2 of those are identical "how can Nintendo be stopped" threads with pic related as the op image

>>383057789
>mods: No ffxiv, all ffxiv posts count as generals. Doesn't matter it just updated or had a raid drop. We need to to delete this active thread so it can be replaced by anouther shitty empty Nintendo thread.

>>383058306
I even started focus targeting the boss as a dps since I'm more likely to die from something it's casting instead of a ground aoe. I put its health bar right on top of my hotbar and somehow still miss half the important hard casts. That's what I get for playing a proc class.

>>383058938
Try a bot. Did some research today and came to the conclusion thats that the endgame of mmos. Scripting your ai for the hard work to be able to enjoy the actual bossfights and animations.

Silkroad online was the best. miss that shit.

>>383057603

>Hunts
>"Sandbox boss fights"

Hmm....

>>383055034
MMO is a trash genre.

>>383055034
http://vocaroo.com/i/s13BWw4NRnN6

>>383061001
dumb roastie

>>383061001
LONDON
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>>383061001
>(you)

>>383061702
>korean pay to win grind fest
OK, back up your opinion

>got my endgame gear aside from one accessory
>got my weekly omemega drops
I'm glad I can now go back to having a life. It's the only MMO that lets me do it desu

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>>383061702
Sick of playing a tired old wow clone with different characters?
Sick of paying $12.99 a month and feeling you have to log in every day to get your moneys worth?
Sick of buying a game and losing access to it if you stop paying?
Do you want an mmo where you pay a single fee of $5 and never have to pay anything else to access the game you own?

Black Desert online is on steam now!

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>>383062447
Housing System

Housing in Black Desert gives you the option to spend contribution on a home to either live in, or use as a manufacturing workshop for your workers. There are a massive amount of different workshops for your workers to use throughout the towns and cities in Black Desert. With instanced housing, you won’t be forced to compete with other players to get a location. Although, if you set a unit to “My House”, you will get ranked by interior scores for the entire playerbase to see.
Many types of houses can be rented for worker manufacturing. Most houses typically have at least 3 available options for building a unit into. Every unit can be purchased as a player house. You can repurpose one of your unit’s available purposes to another choice in the unit for a cost of silver, and time to build the unit.
In the close future the promised system for Guild Houses will be added, which will be open world and guild leaders will be able to transform into guild shops.

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>>383062614
Fishing

Fishing in Black Desert is used to obtain fish for use in cooking, as well as silver.
To fish, you must first obtain a Fishing Pole. You can get one from a fishing merchant, a quest reward, or through creating one with a Tool workshop housing unit.
You can then go to any body of water to begin fishing, provided it is not too shallow.
Fish can be depleted from a region due to popularity, so it’s best to fish different areas form time to time. You can open the world map to check fishing conditions around the world.
Fishing is the single longest player-controlled production activity in the game.

>>383061702
Only thing I don't like about BDO is the fact that you have a 6+ month daily grind ahead of you if you want to catch up to anyone, and there is zero meaningful catch up mechanics.

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>its a quest objective is right at the very edge of the giant red circle episode

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>>383062735
Pets

Pets in Black Desert will loot mobs you have killed every so often depending on level and rank, and high ranking pets can also apply minor buffs to things such as energy regeneration and combat experience. There are 3 types of pets in Black Desert: Cats, Dogs, and Hawks.
Two pets of the same species may be bred together to obtain a single higher ranked pet of that species. This kills the parents though. Higher ranked pets may obtain up to 3 special abilities, and may end up looking like a completely unique pet, aesthetically. Higher ranked pets may also obtain a different special ability such as Monster Taunt, as well as a faster rate of item pick up.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0TU9BCeencm

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>>383062042
>pay to win
lol
>grind fest
>complaining about grinding in an MMO

kek. It's even more hilarious if take into account the disgusting weekly drop limit FF has in place (yes, a game you pay MONTHLY for limits how much loot you can get) which only serves to stretch the grinding even further.

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>>383062880
Gathering

You need gathering to acquire the basic materials to start any craft, and you need gathering tools specific to each form of gathering. While the world of Black Desert looks rather lush and full, most of these natural objects are in fact gatherable, as well as mobs themselves. Each time you gather you consume one energy. Your gathering skill levels up the more energy you spend gathering. With higher gathering levels, you gain access to higher quality gathering tools, as well as higher gathering yields per energy spent.

There are certain outfits which will increase your gathering speed and experienced earned to a degree. Some of these outfits require a certain gathering level to equip. You can check your gathering level by pressing P and viewing the bottom of your character pane.

The different types of gathering tools are as follows: Mining Pick, Butchering Knife, Skinning Knife, Sapping Tool, Hoe, Logging Axe, Empty Bottle and Shovel.

>>383062958
it's not a grind if you only need to do it 4~8 times tops :^)

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>>383063021
Gardening

Gardens can be created by dropping a fence, available for rent at any town’s Material Merchant for contribution. There are multiple fence sizes, dictating the amount of crops you can grow; and fences can only be placed in certain areas.
You can use your garden by placing it just outside of a village. Try to avoid any obstructions in the area you place your farm to get maximum yields. Farm locations are phased, so don’t worry about placing on top of someone else’s farm, as you will only see the one you placed down at that spot ever again.
Factors such as humidity and heat can effect the growth and health of your crops. If the temperature is too low, your crops won’t grow fast enough. Too much humidity and pests may wind up in your crops. A system message will inform you if your crops are suffering any damage. It costs energy to harvest your crops as well.
Gardens have a limited time for use after placement. Make sure your crops are harvested before your garden gets demolished.

>>383062447
I've been interested in it for awhile but I know the pets are p2w and I hear the classes are unbalanced. I'll buy in if they ever fix the classes.

>>383062958
>literally not defending bdo in any way
Thanks for playing but you lose anon, please try again

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>>383063165
Hunting

Hunting is one of the mini-games found in Black Desert. It allows you to kill wildlife with a rifle and eventually leads to killing the King Whale which drops valuable meat, jewelry, and more.
Currently there are only few monster you can hunt to level up your hunting, not counting the King Whale.
Pigeons and other birds – These are found in different places of the map, even in cities such as Velia.
Alligators – These are found in Kai Lake.
Small Whales – These are found out in the ocean.
Regardless of which ones you hunt it will take time to level your hunting.
The King Whale spawns randomly in the ocean. Once discovered it will be announced to the server and you may begin killing it. Typically it will take three groups of five with moderate to high hunting proficiency. The top three groups who deal damage to the King Whale will be announced when it dies and they will receive loot as well as hunting exp.

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>>383063290
Dyeing

Dyes can be obtained through questing or with Pearls from the cash shop. You can dye different parts of your armor, weapon and off-hand. Different dyes can be mixed to obtain new dyes.

>>383063290

BDO isn't even dead, why are you shilling it so hard.

>>383063170
Been playing for a month now.

The pets are an absolute MUST if you want to grind effectively. If you don't have them, you're fucking yourself. You need like $40 worth of pets.

And yes some of the classes are massively unbalanced. Grinding enemies is the name of the game, and some classes can't even do that in any sort of efficient manner. While other classes are GODS at everything.

>>383055034
Don't the other MMOs run like shit though when XIV doesn't have any microjitters whatsoever when you lag?

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Playing a musical instrument

Black Desert offers a musical minigame upon equipping the flute item, obtained via quest. Once equipped, the minigame is commenced by clicking the left mouse button. While their character walks, the player must move their icon through the columns and avoid being hit by musical notes. Upon the music starting, rats may follow you, which in turn can be looted upon death. They can be defeated by walking through water. There are also several other musical instruments that players can use later on, such as drums.

>>383062447
>>383062614
>>383062735
>>383062880
>>383063021
>>383063165
>>383063290
>>383063396
>>383063531


Can't tell if pure autism or a genuine shill.

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>>383063531
Mounts

Mounts are very important in any MMO game and Black Desert Online is not an exception. Large size of the map makes it long to travel on foot. So every player needs a mount in order to save time and travel between cities faster. But mounts are not for traveling only. Merchants and crafters also need them. Every mount differs not only by appearance. Some are better for fast traveling, while others are better for cargo transportation. Black Desert only has 4 avaliable mounts. The first one is the Donkey, which is used only for transporting goods. The second one is the Horse, which is used for traveling, trasporting goods and you can also fight while mounted if you have the proper equipment for it. The third one is the Camel which is used for traveling and transporting goods in the desert area. And the last one is the Elephant which is used as a mount for guild wars.
Black Desert also has Rafts, Boats and Wagons which are used for trasporting big amounts of goods.

>>383063503
It rubberbands when lagging but it's definitely one of the most stable MMOs I've ever played.

My little shill can't be this retarded

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The greatest, most detailed character creator in any mmo ever made.

The only limits are your imagination, unlike some mmos....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72rFa_TscYk

>>383055034
>running left and right doing nothing for no reason on a fight with nothing but ridiculous bright effects
ebin

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>>383063712
Horse breeding.

Why buy mounts in the cash shop when you can breed your own ingame?!

https://www.tenaciousgamers.com/index.php?threads/horse-breeding-guide.7225/

>>383057603
You sure that's not regular old arr behemoth?

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>>383062447
>>383062614
>>383062735
>literally advertising on /v/

>>383064143
lala monk has to move to dps

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This is the pinnacle of the Themepark MMO genre. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like. Extinct Sandbox MMOs do not need to apply.

>>383064249
Sick of awful looking barbie doll nude mods? Why not have the best with Black Desert!

>>383064143
I hate lalas, you can't tell what they're supposed to be with it the icons
Anyway he's in melee range so he's probably trying to hit his positionals

>>383064679
Literally the only good thing about BDO, yet still
>no catgirls
no buy

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>>383064679
Alchemy

By mixing ingredients together, an alchemist can create a wide variety of potions, crystals and alchemy stones which are not avaliable at NPC shops or droped by monsters. To practice alchemy, you must first install alchemy tools into your home. You can obtain alchemy tools from a haberdasher or by creating one through a Tool Workshop production workshop.
Knowledge Mangement & Knowledge Gathering

Knowledge is a point system based on information you obtain as you travel through Black Desert. You gain different types of knowledge by hunting, exploration, questing, and conversing with NPCs.
Types of Knowledge:
*NPC – Obtained via conversations, interest and quest reward.
*Ecology – Acquired by hunting monsters.
*Study – Certain NPCs will let you spend energy to gain new knowledge.

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>>383064667

>>383064841
It might look good, but BDO's character creator is garbage. All the bodies look the same. Notice how all three of those characters have extremely similar faces. Notice how the hair looks like a wig and glows like neon. Notice hwo the bodies look identical, with only the tits on the right being a little smaller.

Everything is also class/gender locked. Have fun.

>>383057789
This or the other guy that has some kind of personal crusade against FFXIV while shilling WoW and GW2 like mad.

>>383064448
>>383064767
lala monks don't need to move THAT much
is almost as bad a those lalamonks i used to see in dungeons "but i had a bad and rough day i dun wanna put effort xd" while we were in fucking aurum vale

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>>383065038

>>383065164
>gender locked
Boring.

>>383063503
FFXIV today is the most well optimized MMO I played in over decade. Which is a big deal considering that 1.0 was so poorly fucking optimized.

>that genuine BDO marketer

What the fuck.

>>383065269
>lalas
>not being a spazz that runs all over the place

>2.5 sec global cooldown

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>>383064869
Rundown of features in this amazing sandbox game.

Pet System
-Cats
-More Cats
-Really Cute Cats
-Dogs
-Pet Emotes
-Falcons (Discover Hidden Areas)

NPC Interaction
-Relationship Points
-Reward Players with Special Items
-NPC Favors
-Stealing from NPC's (Increases your Karma)
-NPC Linking System
-New Player Emotes

Extra Features World
-Real-time Day and Night fluid transitions
-Real-time Weather System
-Rain affects environment (Wet Buildings and Characters Clothes)
-One Big Open Seamless World
-No Zoning
-No Teleporting
-No Instances

Mount Features
-Wild Horse Taming
-Mounted Combat
-Various Skill System for Horse
-Horse Breeding (Exchange Skills and Unique Color Outcome)
-Various Horse Armor Pieces
-Horse Auction System
-ELEPHANTS!

Culture and Life Features
-Trade System
-NPC Trade System and Manual Labor Delivery
-Farming Mode
-Wild Life Gathering
-Hunting
-Leather Skin Hunting
-Mining
-Wood Chop Mode
-Cooking
-Armor Crafting
-Alchemy
-Black Smithing (Weapon Repair)
-Medicine
-Ok, I lost count...

Water and Sea Features
-"Nice Boat" System
-Big Boats? Briefly Shown at 3:50
-Harvesting
-Classic Fishing Mini Game
-Spear or Crossbow Fish Hunting
-Hidden Islands with Treasure Hunting
-Hunting
-Naval Combat

Housing System
-Instanced and Non-instanced Houses
-Furniture System
-Intractable Furniture
-Custom Housing

All that an amazing story to boot, all this for just $5 with no sub fee on steam now!

>>383065164
I'll never get over how shit the hair in BDO is, and I'm already sick of conventionally sexy bodies. That shit is already in every gook MMO and I can just grab them from chink galleries for free.

>>383057789
>Why are THEY allowed to act like niggers? Why can't WE strive towards it! Mods keeping the black man down u know what im sayin jazz?

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>he doesn't play as the best race

There are only a handful of games that do elves right though sadly.

>>383065484
No muscle sliders

>>383057201
Hahahahahahaahahahahaha... wait do you mean private servers?

>>383065606
>FFXIV thread on /v/
>mostly healthy discussion about the game, the story, advice on your class etc.
>4938594359th Overwatch thread on the front page
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER and a few cropped porn webms

Really stimulated my pudding.

>>383065607
That's the first set that hides the horrendous neck sufficiently to look okay. Too bad your tiny babby head still looks dumb in comparison to your lank ass body.

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>>383055034
And yet XI was 10x better than this boring WoW clone. Fuck, I think I'd rather play XI in its current state than ever go back to XIV.

>>383065606
>reeeeeeeing about 1 thread and saying you care about board quality
>more than 20 threads about the same thing and a half dozen waifu threads are fine
Fuck off autist

>>383065821
t. catfag

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>>383065475
slower than ff11

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REMINDER
>BDO has gender locked classes

fucking dropped

>>383065164
It's not like I want to play it. Just give me some nude screenshots and I'm happy.

Although, a standalone BDO character creator and compatible nude mod wouldn't be a bad idea.

>>383065927
I played a roegadyn you gaycunt.

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>>383065484
Swimming underwater

Some games don't let you swim, why be restricted!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1X1HVGy3Qc

>>383066194
So a barafag.

>>383057201
I agree, though not by much. FFXIV feels somehow sterile, like it was manufactured in a lab to hit as many checkmarks for Square execs

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>>383065343

Should I level PLD or DRK?
PLD seems solid but DRK seems more fun and flashy

>>383065821
The giraffe neck is one of the main things that makes XIV elves something other than just humans with long ears.

FFXIV cons.
$12.99 per month
$40 for every expansion
Forced dye purchases on cash shop
Forced retainer fees for extra inventory
Housing is deleted if you unsubscribe for 3+ months (on black desert your house is never taken away)

>>383066018

Why bother with the ranged attacks and the backflip?

>>383066387
PLD is broken at the moment, can't really go wrong with it

DRK is still alright as long as you take the main tank role

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>>383066331

>>383066321
>FFXIV feels somehow sterile, like it was manufactured in a lab to hit as many checkmarks for Square execs
yup

it's cause they play it safe after the disaster that was 1.0

ffxiv is an amalgamation of western mmos

>>383066081
To be fair, some.. the female/male version is almost the same. (some are still female locked tho).

>>383066018

>the most retarded drg opener known to man

Could have made it worst by using Fracture and starting with a full thrust combo before ending it with a heavy thrust.

>>383064442
Now you know how we feel cunt!

>>383065821
Their necks really aren't that long, some of the taller characters it's really noticeable though.

>>383066498
You also forgot no alt friendly
Forced to run through every single patch in existence
Forced to do MSQ and experience the ridiculous loading screens

>>383066018
This webm is deceiving because some of these abilities can be overlapped. If you let each animation play, yeah, it's going to look alot slower than it really is. I also suspect the video is slowed down slightly. later shill.

>>383066785

>replying to yourself

>>383066897
>This webm is deceiving because some of these abilities can be overlapped.

You mean just like a quite a lot of other abilities on almost every job?

>>383066772
>this is how he feels watching others talk about a game and asking for advice
>to him its exactly the same as copy pasting marketing roll
Why are you even on this site?

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>>383066593
Genius writing Activision!

>>383067045
>missing my point
the footage was taken intentionally to either show off full animations or make the game look slower than it is. nobody playing DRG sits there and waits for every animation to play.

>>383065863
Well, S-E tried to make another XI. And that went so well for them.

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>>383066593

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>>383066018
>let me post this 3 year old webm literally running at 0.8 speed using the most retarded opener of all time on a slow class

Really activated every single one of my neanderthal ubermensch cells.

>>383066897
that webm was originally posted in an argument to prove that the games combat is fast

the title of the webm is meant to be sarcastic

>>383067150

Pretty sure it was meant to trigger dragoons more than anything. Anyone who thinks FF is slow can just go watch an opener or 4.0 BRD.

>people who change their names into the new primals
autism

>>383067150
Oh, well my bad then.

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>>383066498
You can get every dye in game.

If you're considering buying ffxv, think on this.

Why do this games players post here so much? is it because they have so much stuff to do in their game or because they have nothing to do at all? A new expansion just came out and they are perma posting here, that should say it all as to just how little content ffxiv has and how undeserving it is of your money.

>>383061001
You must be 18 to post here

>>383066498
>Housing is deleted if you unsubscribe for 3+ months
Not if you own an apartment

>>383067941
All you have to do is watch the numbers on Twitch. FFXIV, two weeks after a new expac, has as many viewers as Guild Wars 2. For comparison, WoW, a game that's been dying for a decade, has ten times as many viwers on average.

FFXIV is boring, plain and simple. It's a weeb copy of WoW that does absolutely nothing new or particularly well. The players know this, but they're too much of a hipster to play WoW, and too much of a neet to not play MMOs for the fake social life.

>>383067941
>meanwhile there are dozens of WoW threads every single day and the few FFXIV threads that get going have genuine BDO marketers advertising their game

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>>383066498
>Forced dye purchases on cash shop

>>383066498
FFXIV is awfully expensive for what it offers.

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>>383067941
>P-please don't play that game I don't like, guys! Please!
Why are there so many anti-xiv-fags out there desperately trying to get people to stop playing?

>>383067941
Because we're all stuck in the duty finder waiting for own DPS queue's to pop

>>383068291
>Dozens of WoW threads every day
Nope. There's been a few threads lately because of the new patch+leaks, but it's not even close to FFXIV's threads every single day.

>>383055034
Destiny 2 is a better mmo, lmfao

>>383068284
>literally trying to use "look how many people talk about it, it's a dead game" and right after using "look how many people watch wow, it's so alive"

>>383068284
Called it: >>383065237

Every single thread without fail and always with the same "arguments" about twitch numbers and FFXIV players being hipsters.

>>383068412
Less people play that garbage, the less developers are encouraged to keep making shitty WoW clones.

>>383068412
It's all the same guy, see >>383068513

>>383068412
just listen to the vocaroos here, they are literal 13 year old shitters that think WoW is the hottest shit because they discovered how to play on a private servers for free. There is a a dumbass calling it "awfully expensive", maybe for him that needs to ask money from his parents like a fucking baby.

as a tank should I bother with POTD or just level through dungeons

>>383068504
90% of the XIV threads aren't even visible for longer than a few posts because Hot Pockets cant stop doing it for free.

But if you start a WoW thread or an Anti-XIV shitpost thread, that'll be allowed to stay on the board until bump limit.

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>>383068561
But some of the anti-xiv people instead shill for WoW...

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>>383068284
>Guild Wars 2
This games deserves much more praise than FFXIV.

B2P, respects your time, great graphics and story content, doesn't tries to pick pocket you with dumb items such as jump potions and rental retainers.

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>>383055034
I take back all insults I have ever shouted at DPS for not moving from the obvious AoE circle of instant death. Shit's hard when you're having an epileptic seizure.

>>383068656
Dungeons are by far the most efficient way to level up, especially for tanks because zero queue times.

>it will never be 2006 again
>you'll never be playing ragnarok with your siblings for the first time again
>modern RO is shit
>every single private server is a meme

no one understands my pain

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>tfw ffxi gets updates more often than ffxiv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFnXmuKcDYY

>>383068801
dude, you don't need new content

just run potd for the millionth time. it's fun!

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>>383068751
>not seeing the markers with your mind's eye

>>383068801
looks like shit

>>383068706
>GW2
No, fuck that gamez I spent $60 to preorder and that was awful all the way, the story is generic as fuck, the character are all boring and nothing really exciting happens, ever. The final boss is also a joke and lel zombehs! Everywhere ... Just fuck off with that game, I'm mad

>GW2-kun has arrived

How does he do it?

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>>383055034
>tfw no money for Stormblood

>>383068801
Matsui > Yoshida

Even while ripping half of the models from FFXI, Yoshida can't deliver. What a fraud.

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>>383068959
> that was awful all the way, the story is generic as fuck, the character are all boring and nothing really exciting happens, ever. The final boss is also a joke and lel allagans! Everywhere

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>>383068976
All of Japan seemingly has the same problem, or they just think the new expansion is shit.

Redpill me on BDO

>>383068801
>still have to pay for FF XI

LMAO still not gonna play it

>>383069272
Based japs know better than to spend money on Shitblood. Only western autists could suffer through the boring shitfest that is XIV.

>>383066081
Why are gender locked classes in mmos a thing anyway? Do they just figure most of the playerbase plays females anyway, so it saves them the effort of having to rig animations/armour for the male model? Cause I can't think of any other reason.

>>383068801
I kinda want to play, but I don't want to pay another sub.

>>383069272
>>383069216
>>383068935
>>383068706
>>383068561
>>383068465
>>383068354
>>383068284
>>383067941
>literally the exact same fucking guy from the last 3 or so threads with the exact same kind of posts

Jesus christ did Yoshi-P fuck your mom or something?

>>383069272
>Only counts physical PS4 copies
>Wonder why it doesn't chart after the first few weeks

>>383069559
>people don't like my game
>it must all be one person!

I literally just started posting and two thirds those posts you linked aren't mine

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>>383068706
stop defending this fcuking mess, how incompetent can you be at coding that having 20 people on the screen kills your framerate no matter how good your pc is, inb4 just lower your graphics anon just make everything look like clay, inb4 just buy 2 1080ti's lol you're certainly not on a budget if you're playing a btp game instead of a ptp right?, Also FUCK these lazy assholes giving excuse after excuse for the lack of more armor variety when they're constantly releasing new shit for the gemshop, also don't bother replying to me to defend any of this im going full I AM SILLY here

>>383067941
Because I'm waiting for my node to spawn in 2min.

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>>383069374
>ffxi has 30k players and is 15 years old with a subscription. Gets monthly updates.
>ffxiv has 200k players, is 6 years old, has a sub and seemingly -needs- a cash shop

fuck off with these faggot gook games. men play dota.

>>383069272
Everyone I know that plays FFXIV on PS4 bought it digitally on PSN because you don't have to go through Mogstations bullshit.

>>383069559
Jealousy. Same thing happens in every thread about the pinnacle of the genre.

Look at Dark Soul's threads, you'll constantly get contrarians saying how shit DS1 is and how underrated DS2 is.

>>383067247
What's wrong with that group UI?
Everything else follows the Skyrim model and that's just bunch of red boxes.

>>383069368
good character creator, flops on everything else.
if you pay any money for BDO even a penny, you got ripped off hard. the game is F2P in other countries.

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>>383069559
Imagine being this butthurt because people don't like your WoW simulator.

I'd probably give BDO a try if it weren't for the rootkit they install with the game.

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>>383068706
GW2 had a chance, it had a fantasitc framework to build from with GW1 but decided to be a generic shit show.

The trinity exists for a reason, taking it out to be edgy is fucking stupid.

Also the story is really bad, which is especially a big fuck you after the amazing job GW1 did.

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>>383069957
>Pinnacle of the genre
>losing sub numbers two weeks after new expansion

You cannot make this shit up.

>>383069817
>Also FUCK these lazy assholes giving excuse after excuse for the lack of more armor variety when they're constantly releasing new shit for the gemshop
It's a B2P game

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>people recommending a gender/raceloacked classes MMO like Black Desert Online
Absolutely disgusting.

>>383069885
Stop trying to oversell those updates.

They're fucking nothing.

XIV release updates on a 3-4 monthly cycle and has 5x as much content in each update.

XI is shit these days, anyone playing it is a retard tbqh

>>383070137
You're not missing anything. It's a standard fare korean grinding afk simulator with no endgame

>>383070318
Are you still playing Mabinogi Mariel?

>>383070318
>muh waifus
Men playing female characters are the most cancerous thing in the genre

>>383068706
isnt a good chunk of the story constantly fellating 2 lesbian plant girls

>>383070163
>not understanding the ebbs and flows that come with expansion release

Give me an example of any MMO where an expansion retained the original boom it got on release day.

>>383070351
Yeah, that content everyone cleared in less than a week.

Worth every penny. Almost as much as the sub you're paying to run PoTD over and over.

>>383070351
>and has 5x as much content in each update.
Amazing content such as Garrison-lite, Dynamis (without the fun) and Lords of Verminion.

>>383070423
Yeah i do.

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>>383070514
Yoshida hates you MMO NEETS.

>>383070569
Be honest, is it worth it to start now?
I've never gave it a try since I was more a Flyff/RO guy back then.

>>383070691
Nope, its beyond pay2win.

Newbies have a lot of free stuff like pets and gear, but you will never be on track unless you pay for overpowered gacha gear/items.

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>>383070514

Compared to XI timesinks? It's less content that you're forced to play over a month because muh sub numbers.

>>383070546
Are you saying that Ambuscade or Incursion is good?

Because that's all XI has gotten for a long time.

People still playing XI these days are retards.

>>383070782
Aah I feared that.
Oh well.

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>>383070645
>We're making a game that you don't want to play
*adds another item on the cash shop to make up for sub losses*

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>>383070645
lmao, what a fucking hack
"no, we're not making more content, go play other games or hang with your dad lol"
"pay us full price per expansion oh and also a nice sub fee, oh, and cash shop shit if you want to catch up"
"please look forward to it!"

What's the fastest exp run after DR: Leveling?

>>383070961
>>383071042
Without the addicted whales this game wouldn't stand a chance.

>>383071042
How do you spin that this way exactly?
And I honestly prefer his approach which don't turn the game like a second job that you have to play everyday if you don't want to be left behind like in WoW for example.

>>383071042

>MMOs need to have 14 hours a day grindfest content

lmeow. Even in old MMOs, what you describe as content was basically mindless grinds that your 10 year old mind couldn't parse out as being utter gutter shit. No one wants to go back to grinding a map for 1 hour for 0.1% exp anymore.

>>383071276
This. I like actually being able to get off the game's hook instead of autistically devote my life to it in order to not fall behind
If the producer is ok with this, who the fuck cares?

>>383070141
GW1 didn't even use the trinity you fucker. I hate GW2 but don't use my beloved GW1 in your arguments if you didn't play the game.

>>383071473
Not him but fuck, you're hitting way too close to home.
I still wonder how and why the fuck did I went Hero on Flyff.

>>383071230
Highest level dungeon with food and buffs or PotD.

Both are about as fast, but as a DPS you'll be hard pressed to get a dungeon fast.

Doing FATEs whilst waiting for a dungeon isn't bad either, probably slightly less efficient than just doing PotD but more interesting plus challenge log bonuses.

>>383071486

Literally no other MMO is following FFXIV's patch cycle either. Every 3 months is a major patch. If they wanted to make the content last longer, they easily could by just extending the weekly grind and making everything cost more but they don't. Crafting/Gathering classes could easily take 10x the time to cap but they chose to make them all maxxable in a week. Respecting player time is nothing to bitch about. If you want grind, there are plenty of other MMOs to smash your head against while you get "comfy" listening to anime music while clicking your mouse every 3 seconds for hours.

>>383071276
Instead, you have to play every day and rush everything the moment that the patch is released, or else you can give up on doing any significant content.

How is that any better? At least in older MMORPGs, the grind is so long that rushing it won't earn you anything significant.

In RO I was super casual and still managed to have a level 99 Wizard before the Heritage patch. And that's one of the games with "0.01%" drop rates that Yoshida so often talked about.

>>383056410
It runs like shit on everything.

>>383064367
It is but ley lines mean the webm's not from 2.x

>>383071643

I remember when 98 to 99 in RO cost exactly what I said, 0.1% for 1 hour of work. If you died you lost 1% exp too.

Not that it wasn't fucking fun when you were a kid but that shit just doesn't fly anymore.

>>383071785

>Instead, you have to play every day and rush everything the moment that the patch is released, or else you can give up on doing any significant content.

Factually wrong. The odd # patches or catch-up patches pretty much brings any player up to speed for the next even # patch in like 2-3 weeks.

>>383071732
I actually think that XIV could go a step futher and give you tomes for doing stuff on sub-max level job, so you could build bank while leveling alt jobs.

>>383071574
In what way didn't GW1 use the trinity? Underworld, FoW and anything like Urgoz, SF, ToPK and Mallyx all used tanks, healers and DPS.

Tanking was different, but you still did it.

>>383071732
>while you get "comfy" listening to anime music while clicking your mouse every 3 seconds for hours.
what's wrong with wanting that?

>>383071732
>>383071486
>>383071473
>>383071245
If you autists actually are okay with paying full price + sub for a game you're barely going to play and complete in less than a week, I mean, that's fine. Really don't have to argue with you, it's just a little sad that your standards are so low, but it really reaffirms my theory that people don't actually enjoy playing FFXIV.

>>383071832
You could get 1% per hour by leveling in PvE areas. And you earned nothing by being level 99 so unless you were a literal autist or suffered from OCD, there was no reason to rush.

>>383071964
If getting high ilvl is all that you care about, then yeah.

>>383071832
The Hero system of flyff was kind of fucked up like too.
Max level was 120 but at lvl 118 you would get 0.01% per mob.
When you reached 120, you had the option to become Master which turn you back to lvl 60 but you'll get 1 additional stat points for each level at the cost of gaining only 50% of the exp.
At level 120 Master you basically got 0.003% per mob, and you needed to reach max exp to become Hero, which was basically lvl 121 and would gain a new skill.

>>383071574
I knew you were a casual PVE story player.

Fuck off scum.

>>383072557
that sounds really cool though

I bet the people who attained Hero felt very proud of their accomplishment since they were very few

>>383073885
>I bet the people who attained Hero felt very proud of their accomplishment
ten thousands hours of effort only to afk in town or for the servers to eventually get shut down.

you could have spent those hours getting a degree, learning japanese, or actually working a job.

>>383073885

Well now FFXIV now takes 1000 hours of combined fates to reach level 70 on one role. 70 giving you the sick 70 skill (Fey Union) and your class specific gear, woah. How do you think that would go with the current MMO community.

>>383074576
>Well now FFXIV now takes 1000 hours of combined fates to reach level 70 on one role.

>using Fates to level

Even then it doesn't take nearly 1000 hours of them to hit 70.

>>383074163
none of that sounds as fun

when you play MMOs as your main hobby, you don't really care about the real world. the real world exists just so you can work to earn enough money for an internet connection, food, and a bed

>>383073885
Yeah, I was actually the third Hero Knight of my server.
There were really a few of us, but from what I understood after I gave up on the game, they made a bunch more level after Hero, which turned the max level to be 150 or something.

Flyff was actually very interesting in term of theorycrafting because you had a boatload of option to put stats on everything you had.

For example, back then after a Friend create his own private server, we calculated the block rate of each classes (blocking turned any damage to 0 and was based on your max Dex).
The dex classes gained the lowest amount of blockrate because it was their main stat, while in return, the Knight and Assassin which were STR job gained the most, so I was able to create a build while mixed Dex which would come from a Dex pet, which was awakened with Dex bonus, with a Dex ring, some other dex bonus from the gears and turning my character into something like 70% STR, 30% END for the main stats and I was able to block 60% of the attack coming to me.

And speaking of bonus stats, I also discovered a weird glitch that I loved to abuse in PVP.
Basically, the Knight had a skill called Pain reflection which used to reflect IIRC 40% of the damage deal to you by attack, skill and magic.
Sadly, it was nerfed to a more 5% reflect.
But I was able to discover that you could actually buff the damage return of the reflect by giving yourself pure ATK bonus.
So let's say you had an attack that dealt 1000 damage, you would only return 50 damage, but with a +100 attack bonus it would turn into 150.
I basically made a set that had around 2300 attack bonus, so even if something dealt 1 damage to me they would get back 2300 damage on their face, it was hilarious.

Man I miss Flyff.

>>383072114

Having no ambition or meaning in your life.

>>383074883
Sounds really cool. See, I'm sure those memories and your experience will stay with you for the rest of your life because of the hard work that went into it.

Games like 14 and other shallow games that don't require much effort will be forgotten in a few years by those who played it.

>>383076332
What's wrong with wanting to relax with anime music and grind after a long day at work?

>>383076504
Well in retrospect, Flyff was a fucking awful game with absolutely 0 content beside grinding all day and PVP.

And I'm really enjoying my time with 14 since I was able to join a neat little FC where everyone of us work together to accomplish what we want.

Beating A12S with all of us before Echo is one of my best memory for example.

>>383076919
Well, I understand that too. I'm glad you still find joy in modern day MMOs at least

>>383076919
That doesn't fit the narrative he's trying to push anon, you were having false enjoyment with your friends

>>383076609

I just said what's wrong with it, you useless piece of shit.

>>383055034
My local EBGAMES is selling the game with all the expansions and a month of game time for 60NZD, worth it? I'm big into WoW atm though and the only FF game I've played is X which was super boring and XV which wasn't very good either.

What MMO are you guys playing right now?

>>383077801

If you like WoW this game will blow your mind. It's basically the same thing but with a great single-player storyline and MUCH higher production values, especially for the boss fights and music. You just need to make it through the boring early game story/leveling.

>>383077801
It's a slower, more expensive version of WoW with less content.

If you're a weeb, go for it. Otherwise, pass.

>>383077334
so doing something you enjoy means you have no ambition or meaning in your life, got it

>>383072160
I enjoy playing XIV because I can have a life while playing it on the side. I don't see what's so hard to grasp here.

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>>383078206
FFXIV

>>383078206
GW2. It's fun for casual play.

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>>383078206
world of warcraft: stormblood

>>383079774
Why does it look like a bullshot?

>>383079774

What's graphics card do you have?

>>383078840
>>383079231
>>383079774
>first few responders are shill mmos
Well fuck

>>383078206
tree of please end my life now

>>383079962
>>383080081

He's obviously using a graphics filter such as SweetFX.

>>383078206
Secret World Legends.

>>383079962
reshade+sweetfx

>>383080081
gtx 1080

What's with all the XIV hate threads lately?

>>383079774
post more 4k screenshots

>>383080938
Some guy going on a crusade against it on top of either a mod or janitor who hate ffxiv

>>383080938
This thread is the epitome of FFXIV shilling

>>383080938
>get new content
>fanbase goes ape shit and invade any mmo threat or make thread talking about how it the greatest thing ever

>>383081128
You must be really insecure

>>383063995
Pso2s is better

>>383080938
wowfags angry that the game didn't die in a month like they said,xivfags shitting up other mmo threads so they are retaliating,people who dont care about mmo's in general just stiring the shitpot

>>383081128
>greatest thing ever
Were we in the same threads?
Most people were bashing the game, especially during the Raubhan debacle.

>>383079774
Post more anon, I'm on the fence and I love pretty games.

>>383081430
It is actually a shader for the game
https://ffstormshade.wixsite.com/stormshade

>hotkey MMOs
ADHD kiddos have ruined MMORPGs due to their incessant need to constantly be hitting a button.

>>383081883
So provide an alternative or fuck off with your forced meme.

>>383081128
To be honest this is only happening because mods been removing the ff14 generals on /v/. So the ff14 cucks have been making fake mmo threads and going to any other thread because they won't go to /vg/
>b-but the cancer
Just make another thread, Fate Go has two on /vg/.

>>383071821
i know its an hour or so late but i came here to call you fucking retarded
i get 60fps on high/max settings (no AA because fuck fxaa)
with just a gtx 7501gb and an amd 860k black edition
to say ff14 runs poorly is such a fucking lie and you should feel ashamed of yourself

>>383082181
>Just make another thread, Fate Go has two on /vg/.
Because you think we didn't try?
The mods deleted the new thread.
Or the degenerates in /xivg/ come and shitost all over.

>>383082181
I could make one after this thread die or some shit. It weird since I try to make one in /vg/ and it got spam by random crap

>>383082181
That's fucking retarded, gas TM secondary autists.

>>383082181
They delete the second one every time. People want to talk about the game not play MySpace drama: Eorzea.
>teehee did you hear who B'ella ERPed with before the savage runs?
>gosh what a whore lmao
>hey guys rate my glamour
>tfw I'm not a real girl
>lfm for LGBT static
>I'm mentally ill and want a girlfriend (male)
Etc

>>383082483
You don't get 60fps with 200 fuckers spasming the server to death faggot.

>>383082845
/vg/ is a shithole right now because some guy has a spambot that reposts shit from other threads on 4chan and the mods do nothing because he's using constantly changing his IP. GW2 general is dead because of this

>>383083202
How many general are infected by this bot?

>>383080938
XIVfags insist on posting on other game threads and flooding threads like this one with FFXIV shit when they have a general on vg and several threads a day here on v.

Yes, people get a bit mad about that.

>>383084306
No more or less than any other cunt on this board.

>>383082845
>>383083202
>>383084306
>can't even talk about mmo in general at /vg/ because GW2 autist ruin it for everyone, despite having many places to go
>can't talk about mmo here with FF14, WoW, and GW 2 fags spamming their shit into the thread
>crippled chan thread is dead, reddit is full of GW 2/FF 14/WoW cunts, mmo site are just fucking bad
This just fucking suck

>>383055034
i dont remember EQ looking this good

>>383068706
>doesn't tries to pick pocket you with dumb items such as jump potions and rental retainers.
Yeah, it pickpockets you with fucking post game story content