>DOTA 2 is a much better game than league of leg-

>dota 2 has notail, puppey and best girl, zai
league literally cannot compete

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>>383005331
>That
>Cheek bones of the gods

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Then explain this picture?

>>383005510
U mad?

MOBAs have never, will never, and literally cannot ever be good videogames to begin with.

>>383005624
Very accurate. Everyone that plays league of nations should blow their brains out.

>>383005640
tell me what kind of games you like

>>383005737
why? so you can pretend there are worse flaws with them? are you just as insecure as everyone else who plays mobas?
fuck off autist
Heroes of the Storm btw

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>>383005331
>brood war requiring less skill than any of those games

>>383005948
meant to quote
>>383005624

>>383005331
>not posting chuan now

>>383005624
>Dota
>High skill ceiling
This image is clearly made by Dota fags.

>>383005624
>strategy games simpler than fighting games

What a mess.

>>383005624
This is pretty accurate desu

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>>383005624
fixed

>>383005331
>click
>click
>click
INTENSE PVP

League of Legends is for SJWs on Tumblr.

Dota 2 is for men with a deep appreciation for complex mechanics and a rich, consistent lore.

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>>383005948
>muh gook click requires skill

Why did every SC pro fail at dota 2?

>>383006401
>LoL less popular than anything
>SC2 more skills than anything
>DOTA more skills than CSGO
yeah nah

>>383006601
League of Legends is for people with a normal life.

DOTS is for greasy NEET neckbeards that dedicate 18 hours per day to the game.

>>383006697
Cause the only "skill" you need at dota 2 and all mobas is teamplay and SC is an individual skill game.

>>383006697
probably because sc players that transitioned to mobas weren't good enough to compete in sc in the first place. also the fact that there were players that had years experience in that game already.

now conversely, are there any dota players that have had any success in sc?

>>383007050
any dota player could easily become a professional at starcraft, they just don't feel like it because of how easy it is

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>>383007050
>are there any dota players that have had any success in sc?

Why would they play a dead game without any e-sport money and prestige?

i made new dota acc and there is literally a leaver in every game i play

i cant imagine someone new coming in and playing this mess, i would just quit after 5 games

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>>383005624
>fighting game skill that low

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>>383005331
explain this then

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>>383007184
yeah okay, just compare and contrast.

Brood War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Q7hw1SUxI
Dota
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjQcyKRXnh4

>>383007213
Money =/= skill now? What do you think of Overwatch?

>>383005624
Dota is League except it has more actives. The only thing more difficult is the guy with the clones but that is one character.

>>383005331
What. That guy is a 6/10

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>>383005331
How can lolbabbies even compete?

>>383007463
His cock is erect and max 5 inches if he is even half as tall as me.

>>383007616
that boner

>>383007659
look, a penis expert

>>383005331
Chuan has lost some weight. He still looks kind of like a monster though

will pupper win TI?
they look really strong

>>383007497
Uhh no. There's also invoker, and natures prophet, and Chen, and enchantress and beast master. I dont play shit league so correct me if I'm wrong but I'm like 1,000% positive there's no heroes with micro in that game

>>383007616
>RTZ boner

>>383007784
>secret
>ever winning anything ever

That meme is dead

>>383005624
your CSGO placement is objectively wrong as fuck

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MOBAbabies are a bunch of whiny SJWs

Here's a real team

>>383007616
>His mum bought fake yeezys

>no courier
>doesnt lose money on death
>doesnt need to carry tp
>stupid bushes and invisibility mechanics
lol is literally game for babies

>>383007471
>Money =/= skill now? What do you think of Overwatch?
Pretty sure there's not that much money in overwatch

>>383005331
Lolbro looks way better brah you fucked up breh like what you doing how did you fuck it up that bad bruh

>>383005331
Only dota players are so cucked that they have to constantly try and look superior.
Nobody cares, just play what you like faggot.

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>>383007830
>controlling one character with more than 2-3 actives and microing couple of minions is considered high skill among moba players

remind me, do they have highground in lol or is the whole map flat?

>>383008105
Only the river part is "lowground". It does't play into games much if at all though.

>>383008027

>Far left looks half-asleep
>Left-center looks unfocused
>Middle looks like he doesn't give a shit
>Center-right looks like he doesn't shower
>Far right looks like he white knights

Yeah real great team you got there

>>383008038
it's still in it's infancy. the game itself has no clout as a competitive game so it's artificially built up with promise of big prize pools and mainstream sponsorships.

what your biggest lose streak?
once i had 20 game lose streak in dotes

>average league player
normalfag
>average dota2 player
slavic

both are shit regardless, fuck off back to /vg/

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>>383008223
Mad some CSGO guy fucked your bitch? Only pussies play MOBA trash

The DOTA>League is just because League, while really really fun, was an incomplete game back int he first seasons. Now that the game has developed to be on the same level claiming that Dota is better is just showing your virtue signaling elitism wannabe.

>>383008751
no, lol is objectively bad game
you literally cant defend it versus dota
thats just how it is

>>383008098
>moving goalposts

Go back to your shit dead game faggot. Suck blizzards cock some more I'm sure you'll get StarCraft 3 split into 4 games this time

>>383008751
>he has to spend money to unlock all heroes and be on an even playing field with everyone else

Loving
Every
Laugh

>>383005331
>skin cancer is better than colon cancer

>>383008098
Mobas are more than just controlling. In Dota theres so many mechanics and timings that you're just going to give up learning because top people started learning that game 10 years before you. I played Dota but not any more because too many people who only care about their mmr and nothing else in their lives (6k). While sure people give it too much credit it still is not an easy game as a whole.

>>383006778
so you admit it requires more skill and time to master?

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>>383009140
>He actually believe this.

>>383009585
ANIMEEEE LOOOOOL XDDD

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>>383008950
>moving goalposts
what are you even talking about? also, were not arguing about popularity here, i'm obviously willing to concede that moba's reign supreme currently in that regard and there is a reason for that.

for one it's a team game, which means it has less emphasis on individual skill and more about teamwork. also, the mechanics of the game are objectively much simpler and because of it more people are able to be at least somewhat competitive unlike in an rts where you will get destroyed 99 times out of a 100 if you play against someone who has better grasp of the mechanics than you.

that explains it's appeal and popularity, that's not to say that it has no skill floor but it is much lower than starcraft. to argue otherwise is to be biased and or misinformed.

>>383009585
why cant i go right now, install lol and play any champion i want?
why?
why???

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>>383009657
Nice argument faggot, neck yourself.

>>383005331
Mobas are for autistic faggots.

>>383007616
>that tiny boner
AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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meanwhile in the FGC

>>383009705
I agree it does suck. But you dont need more than 10 champions you are good with. It isn't a disvantage at all

>>383006804
>SC is an individual skill game

Anon no "strategy" game is an individual skill game.

I say "strategy" because sc just barely makes the cut.

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>>383009902
delte

>>383005624
How dies it feel to Browse /v/ 24/7 you pathetic human beging.

>>383009657
yes just like him

>>383010013
and runes. and runepages.

>>383009773
>>383010318
I meant to quote you and not myself fuck

>>383010318
Runes and runepages are being removed and replaced with 1 system that is free

>>383008034
>no courier
So going back to the fountain is a bigger decision since you'd be missing out on gold/exp
>doesn't lose money on death
There are plenty of snowball mechanics in LoL already
>doesn't need to carry tp
Because you only ever tp back to base in dota right? In league you need to waste a summoner spell slot to be able to tp like you can in dota and it has 4x the cooldown
>stupid bushes and invisibility mechanics
Stupid trees and highground mechanics

The shit you're posting isn't even casualization. Its just design choices.

>>383010013
>But you dont need more than 10 champions you are good with

And this is why the game is casual shit.

>>383010063
are you just baiting now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9OaY_SEIE

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>>383005624
>Dota 2
>higher skill ceiling than league
Learning to bring more people to the fight is not the same as the game requiring your mechanics to be good. In League the game revolves around individual skill while in Dota it literally only comes down to getting successful ganks which isn't hard when every CC in the game is point-and-click.

>>383010489
>Pretending there aren't people who play pudge or invoker only

>>383010586
>posts some random video of autistic gooks screeching

Thanks anon, that really clears up what you meant.

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Enzo "Timado" Gianoli (16yo soon to become millionaire) is swimming in underage peruvian pussy while y'all shitpost all day in this reddit infested board.

>>383009902
>>383007697
>>383007872
it's a MASSIVE fucking bulge

>>383005624
>pcfags actually think sf4 is hard
it's just a diagonal input nigga hahah like just press forward and do a fireball haahahah

>>383010586
amazing startegy
>literally just gook clicks and who ever gook clicks faster win

wew

>>383010063
>Starcraft is a strategy game
Ya sure. Like. 10% strategy. And I get it its RT(S) but genres have always been missleading.

>>383010845
>genres have always been missleading

To retards maybe.

>>383010764
>any e-sport pro
>swimming in pussy when they play 24/7

yea nah.

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>>383010590
>runescape and LoL having almost twice as high skill ceiling as quake and SC2.
>BW at bottom

1/10 bait got me to reply

>>383010712
>>383010838
it's a compilation that showcases many unorthodox, metagame changing strategies used by pros. some of it might be hard to understand if you're not familiar with the game, but i'm just showing it as an example of how strategic the game is.

>>383010764
"If it makes money it is good" is one of the stupidest arguments because hey look it pretty much eliminates all the discussion. Not just for esports or games. It applies to EVERYTHING. Like guy A eats shit and gets paid nothing. Guy B eats shit but gets paid in millions. Guy B is more right than guy A.

>>383011012
Was it that hard to type that in the first place anon?

Here I was thinking you were disagreeing with me saying that strategy games aren't stronger in co-op multiplayer.

By the way, that's not strategy you're pointing out, but tactics.

>>383010764
>underage peruvian pussy

he got aids already?

>>383010934
Well what strategy is there? You gotta have brain problems to think that it is heavy strategy game.

>LoL is greater than dota
>as long as you compare anything besides the games

>>383011232
>strategy = a plan of action designed to achieve a long-term or overall aim

that's literally what the video is about. if you want a more elaborate example of how strategy has evolved and impacted the game then i can supply that too
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Metagame

>>383005624
>>383005331
>Spam TA
>Get to 4k in two months and stop playing
wow that was hard

>People at the lowest skill bracket of their games try to discuss the intricacies of high level play
They're all different in their own ways faggots.

>>383011717
>take 2 months to get better at the game than the average third worlder on a net cafe laptop

damn thats impressive

fyi most people who are actually decent are at 6k and up now

>>383011614
Geez anon, I guess by that shit definition jumping in mario is a strategy.

>>383010616
You're missing the point.

Limiting champion choice means that all of the champions have to be similar, or else one champ will require certain counters that some players might not have.

How many champs have a skill that's basically "projectile that travels in a line"? Literally dozens. Sure they try to spice them up with secondary effects, but in the end they're all the same. Coupled with the fact that most champs are designed with all four skills dealing damage results in extremely homogenous gameplay. And then you have the summoner spells, which are an attempt at creating more diverse playstyles, but in the end everybody uses Flash and either Ignite, Smite, or Exhaust, so the result is even more homogenous.

>>383011295
It is compared to, say, side scrollers, platformers, dungeon crawlers or action games anon. Not that it's not incredibly weak at it in its own genre, but people who actually play games will know what you are talking about when you call a game a strategy game.

>>383011295
build preparation depending on the matchup, map, possibly the individual style of the players and the context where the match is played if it's part of a set
scouting
hard or soft counters
adapting
exploiting a specific window where the opponent is weak to execute a timing attack
cheeses
rushes
early aggression
fast expanding
teching
upgrading
powering as in pumping out as many units as possible at the expense of other options
exploiting the current metagame surprise the opponent with an unexpected play

>>383012040
i get it, you're retarded. that's good to know.

>>383012236
>you're retarded

No anon, you are.

>>383010616
This is true in pub play
Now look at Virtus Pro who just won a tournament picking 81 out of 113 heroes. Do even 80 of the League heroes get picked at an entire tournament combining all teams?

>>383012236
>faggot is too far up SC ass to know the difference between the genres of Strategy and Tactics games

I have a friend who pretty much plays only Counter Strike, and he's a pretty smart guy, but his IQ drops by about 100 points the moment CS is involved in the conversation.

You remind me of him.

>>383012465
not an argument

>>383007418
well it is SFIV so

>>383009975
LOW

what hero should i spam to stomp pubs?

>>383005447
Zai is ugly as sin

>>383012828
meepo

>>383006601
Who are you fucking fooling? DOTA's lore is as laughable and patheic as League's.

>>383013114
Believe it or not, DotA actually has deep, interconnecting lore that updates and tells a story through cosmetic item text. Characters have their own plots that weave in and out with others and get updated as more items/events come out. There's more to the lore than just the brief paragraph each character has under their backstory.

test

anybody else getting connection error on other boards?

>>383011947
I had such massive win streaks I could probably go 5k if I wanted but I lost all motivation to play after that. Pretty much every other pro in 7k abused TA at some point to climb

>>383008027
>>383008027
I'd suck them all off, even the fat idiot

>>383013959
suck what off?

>>383012828
meepo and invoker

>>383006704
it's not SC2, it's SC...

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>>383005510

>>383005624
>dota more skill than quake
KEK

>>383010469
You're retarded.