Rise is without a doubt the best Persona, right?

>>382988559
no.

>>382988587
/thread

That's not a Persona.

>>382988559
Rise a slut.

Rise is okay, but shes not the best P4 girl

>>382988869
who is then?

>>382988768
rude

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>that one bro gangbang doujin with Rise and Chie in their Dance costumes

>>382989595
Sorry

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Best girl and Persona.

Maya Amano is the best Persona
Medusa is the best Shin Megami Tensei
Kasumi is the best Pocket Monster

Yes, Rise is my girlfriend.

>>382990958
You named your hand Rise?

>>382990019
That is my favorite demon, and I would bang P3 girl, but still not best girl.

Public under-the-table blowjobs from Rise!

>>382990019
How can you be the best if you aren't even real?

If there's no doubt, why are you asking us?
She's worst support. All her abilities are useless compared to Fuuka and Futaba who actually provide decent help in combat.

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>>382988559
Rise a cute.

A CUTE!

>>382989595
Either Naoto or Ai

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>>382992151
>Naoto
>better than Rise

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s-senpai...

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>>382988559
She is the best out of P4 at least.

Also her new figure is great.

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>>382992851
This is the only correct answer

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>>382988559
Rise is not best girl, even in her own game, she's not even best Lovers in the series.
Your pleb is pouring out

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>>382991886

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>>382992352
>thinking an annoying idol who chooses fame over you is better than a reverse trap who gets adorably flustered whenever you flirt with her and can actually follow cooking instructions

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>>382992982

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>>382993063
>thinking a literal boy is better than a confident, sexy idol
>mfw

>>382993063
Naoto is a total moron and a Mary Sue.

>let yourself get captured by the killer to find out who he is
>don't video tape it
>don't have someone else observe it and jump on the killer
>end up in the shadow world without actually having figured out a single fucking thing about the killer you were trying to go after
>this is supposed to be a genius detective

Also her S link is full of stupid chuuni shit. I liked her at first too but holy shit she is the worst detective in history and her story is retarded.

>>382993620
Memory's kinda fuzzy, but wasn't the kidnapper success due to no one suspecting the delivery guy?

>>382993620
>Mary Sue
MARIE*

>>382993979
>Attempting to look for anyone suspicious
>Didn't suspect the delivery guy she didn't call for

>>382992937
THIS
you can go home now, debate's over

>>382994225
I get sent a lot of shit through courier services I didn't ask, but instead got send by a relative, so it's not that far fetched.
Though, harping a bit more on her Social Link, I think I remember some implications that the butler was out looking for her, and he in a way followed her every step, so he not witnessing her kidnapping does raise some questions.

Also, you can be the greatest mind alive, but it won't be able to figure out stuff while unconscious. Though, I call bullshit on no one remembering the five minutes early to being kidnapped, including Naoto.

>>382993620
First of all she's not a Mary Sue. A Mary Sue is classified by the fact that she is immediately loved by everyone and has no flaws. So basically a character like Marie. Second of all, the reason she was dumbed down is because of the shitty plot and because of Atlus wanted to stroke the player's fragile ego. Lastly, at least her story wasn't as retarded as the other girls in your party

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>>382993191
>literal boy

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>>382993191
>can actually cook
>has the biggest breast
>sexiest dancer
>won swimsuit competition without even showing up
>"literal boy"

>>382993620
>Mary Sue
>Is an awful detective and out-sleuthed by Yosuke

>>382994546
>and has no flaws

She was able to keep up with the party in terms of detective work without being to the shadow world herself.

Then she lets herself get caught and is completely retarded about it and contributes nothing of value to the group. But somehow, magically, she was a fucking genius detective who figured out everything the party did without actually being to the shadow world herself, just buy, I guess, observing them?

Either way her character is retarded and she would be the worst girl if it wasn't for Marie.

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>>382995518
She is worst girl. At least Marie makes for good hate fuck material.

>>382994546
Marie is literally a Mary Sue by definition. And by extension a horrible shove-in character AND worst girl. This isn't a good comparison.

>>382992851
The pants are a little weird. I wish they would have followed the art and made them translucent, with her legs being visible inside.

>>382995518
You keep contradicting yourself. Is she a Mary Sue or is she a retard who can't figure out the obvious. She can't be both, so make up your mind and then I'll argue your point

>>382995998
She's a retard, she got outsleuthed by Yosuke

>>382995746
He called Naoto a Mary Sue, so I'm giving an example of what an actual Mary Sue is and why Naoto is nothing like her

>>382996117
That's due to Atlus' shitty writing to make the player feel like he accomplished something when in reality in was spoon fed to them. Also Yosuke was more experienced in the TV world than her at the time

Yosuke is there to be a reasonable human being who can put two and two together, Chie is there to say stuff that is just crazy enough to be true, and Naoto is there for the devs to move the plot along since they couldn't really pull off the "mystery part of "murder mystery"

>>382996447
>I don't like this so this should be a shitty writing
Fuck off.

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>>382988559
That is correct

>>382996785
Okay then friend, explain to me why someone who's solved +20 cases before hand, is known as the detective prince, is the smartest teammate you have, and has a good enough reputation to be hired by cops while still in high school couldn't figure out something so simple

>>382995626
god damn she makes my dick so hard, it's a shame her character is so bad

>>382997032
>something so simple
You said that because you're in MC point of view, where everything MIRACULOUSLY handed it to his ass.

>>382997214
You're the one whose saying that she got outwitted by Yosuke

>>382997584
I'm not the same guy, I only start posting in this post>>382996785

>>382997639
Either way my point still stands, seems like bad writing to hype up a character as a genius like that and then have them not be a genius because the plot demands it. I only assumed the answer was simple because the other guy did

>>382998072
It's not plot demand it. She's a genius, not a pshycs. She's only newcomer how the fuck would she knows dumbass.
You didn't even refute my point in here>>382997214

>>382997023
Rises default hairstyle should have been letting it down.

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can you stop bullying my waifoo

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>>382992937
>literally a slut

>>382998316
If she knew she was going to get kidnapped after showing up on TV, why didn't she prepare for any possibility like the detective she is? She's meant to be smarter than that but Atlus nerfs her sleuthing abilities to make the player feel better about themselves. Also I didn't refute your other point because I didn't disagree with it.

Kanji and Naoto will never ever get together

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>>382999367
All P4 girls belong to the Brotag

>>382999167
It's not like she can prepare anything.

>>383000059
Poor Naoto, with her non-existent hips and tiny body childbirth would destroy her.

>>383000059
>No Yosuke
One job.

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>>382988559
>Rise best persona
>When Aigis is a thing
How could you be so wrong?

>>383000193
She'll fill out as she grows older

>>383000192
She could have set up cameras or at least called another cop to keep a keep an eye on her. There's lots she could, but didn't because of the plot

I'm surprised thread hasn't been moved yet

>>383000267
Toasters can't be waifus

>>383000632
Fuck you anon, the toasters are the only ones worth waifu'ing

>>383000762
Toasters will never be able to fulfill your needs as a person. You can't fuck a toaster, you can't have kids with a toaster, and you can't grow old with a toaster. They're only good for burning your bread

>>383001198
>Can't fuck a toaster
Oh yeah! just watch me

>>383000564
For the former, wouldn't the kidnapper at least do a quick search around to check there aren't any cameras around and wouldn't the kidnapper avoid confronting their target if they're not alone.

>>383000193
>not fapping to the thought how her hormones warp her body into a feminine widehipped mother

>>383001556
As far as Naoto knows the kidnapper thinks he's scotfree due to Mitsuo taking the fall for him. So she'd assume that he has no reason to suspect anyone is expecting him. Also Naoto could have had someone watch her from afar so that the kidnapper wouldn't have noticed he was being watched

>>383001541
I'll enjoy watching your dick getting caught in machinery anon