This is a goddamned running simulator. Worse than skyrim

>>382967152
Just get ferrystones you dumpass

>>382967152
>doesn't enjoy a game world with dya night cycles
>long treks with your party that talk about what they see
>enemies that ambush you or you can ambush
maybe these games aren't for you

Travelling back and forth gets boring when enemies are always Respawning in the same spots and the pawns keep repeating the same lines.

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>>382967152

>>382967152
wolves hunt in pack

>>382967152
>Love slow, strong character
>Warrior is incredibly underpowered compared to every other vocation and there is literally nothing they excel at compared to other classes, fucking every area they fail at, being a tank, dps, all of it

this is suffering

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>escort some guy from startery village clear across the entire fucking map to the north.
>two thirds of the way, a fucking Gryphon slam dunks unto the party and kills the guy

Truly the Dark Souls of Skyrim games.

>>382970296
Yeah, it sucks.

I can accept the 3 skill slots, but the fact that his entire point is supposed to be about being a tank and dealing high damage, but he doesn't do any of those things is a downer.

If there was at least one reason to use warrior over other classes I'd be happy, but I can't think of a single practical reason.

Arc of Obliteration is cool but not practically 99.99% of the time, and other classes do everything better.

>>382971542
They should have a passive, possibly invisible buff to strength and defense while in the warrior vocation, and some kind of aerial sweep type ability.

I walk in this game a lot. Especially after exiting a town and the new day music starts up.

>>382967152
It's actually a pretty good comparison - both worlds are empty, if you've played the game for more than a few hours.
Sponge enemies, boring spells - it's all here. At least DD has some quality put in it.

>>382974037
>boring spells
now i know you haven't played the game

>>382974375
Good for you. Now go and choose between spell-that-does-AOE-damage-A and spell-that-does-AOE-damage-B.

>>382970796
See where he needs to go and go drop a portcrystal there. you only need to go fetch him and ferrystone there

>>382967429
fpbp, the game gives you an eternal ferrystone for fucks sake

Do any other vocations benefit from being huge and beefy, other than warrior of course.

>>382974037
Sponge ennemies are really only at the start. One you get your shit together and start to learn weaknesses and items it's pretty smooth. A good exemple is ogres, which fall easily even early on if you chuck an oil flask at them then use Comestion or nearby bomb barrels

>>382974810
It helps with carry weight and i think grappling stability when you climb on baddies. Not certain

>>382967152
Game is at its best post during Everfall and Bitterblack Isle.
The open world is the weakest aspect of the game, so make use of the eternal ferrystone.

>>382967152
It's a pretty mediocre game all up. Not much of a RPG either.

>>382974037
The spells in DD are fun as all fuck. What's it like not being able to have fun anymore?

>>382967152
You're right
The Duke could stand to commission some new roads

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>>382975846
>you're doing well
>you think you have things figured out
>cue everfall
>fight an evil eye for the first time

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>>382975846
>Owning everything on the mainland
>Head to Bitterblack Isle

Jesus christ

>meet first dragon in a grove
>try to fight him, get crushed multiple times
>ok I'll come back later
>come back every 10 levels after that and can't take even 3 of his absurd 8 or fucking whatever health bars off
>he just flies the fuck away if you do too much damage
>can instantly kill your entire party
>pawns spam useless fire spells at him because the AI system is completely opaque and retarded

It was the combination of shit plot, empty world, and damage sponge enemies that made me give up on it. Shame, because it had a cool combat system with the shoulder button modifiers and a really varied character creator.

So is there no reason to ever have a warrior in your party ever? They're even outclassed as tanks?

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>game is literally a berserk simulator
>two-handed weapons belong to bar none the worst class in the game

>>382971542

I like using warrior to destroy a shitload of crates in one swing. I also like to hit multiple enemies

>>382979464
>struggling against a drake
see, it's because you don't know its weak point. the red one you speak of has his on his belly a bit behind his front legs. A spell like Gicel will take out several lines of health in one shot if landed in that general area. crawling under there with a melee guy wirks well, you ever stagger the drake every once in a while where it will flail helplessly on its side

>>382979830
>hit it with a fully charged arc of deliverance
>3/4 of one health bar goes away
yeah, nah, I ain't grinding escort missions and collect-the-herb quests until the game decides I'm allowed to kill him.

Also fun is when he flops over on the wrong side and the awful hit detection means you can't even jump over his tail to get around to whack the heart.

>>382979582
a warriors pawn is good to have if only because of that Savage Lunge charge ability which knocks critters on the ground

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>>382979776
I really don't get this meme, i'm pretty good with two handed swords and war hammers. Maybe you're just too used to play as fast characters

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>>382980134
It's fine to be good with 2handers but let's not pretend they're not the worst class in DD

>>382980294
It is the worst class in the sense that all it's skills are useless (except the armor one) but they power alone makes up for it big time. You just need to learn how to use it
In my opinion mages and mystic knight are the worst

>>382979987
i killed him with a soldier using a bastard sword. 3/4 with arc if deliverance isn't worth it, use something else and aim for numbers rather than one strong attack to slows you to shit

>>382980294
more sluts

>>382980616
mages and mystic knights can at least kill wisps and more importantly those living armor fucks. If you're a martial that didn't level your mag. attack, doesn't have a magic weapon to use it, and doesn't use periapts to make killing those things not take a million years you're pretty hosed.

@382967152
1/10, not even worth a (you).

try being more subtle, when you say shit like "worse than Skyrim" it becomes too obvious.

>>382980616
mystic is a good class to have for some monsters, evil eyes get destroyed by self-holy enchant and magic canon

>>382980616
mages are just healers, sorcerers and mystic knights are GOAT.

sorc. are for flashy aoe anihilation and mystic knights are just good all-around.

who /ARC OF DELIVERANCE/ here?

why is satisfying to use it when someone attacks you and gets BTFO?

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>>382980834
I do have a mystic knight set up for wisp missions and that sort of thing but if i;m fighting practically any other enemy in the game i go for my trusty warrior and bring a ranger and mage with me
>>382980947
>mystic knights are just good all-around
Mystic knights are just mediocre all-around, they lack really powerful strength and magic, it's a nice class to fuck around with but not ideal to fight hard enemies

>>382967152
True.
Too bad because fights can be fun.

Oh shit I have to move in this game 1/10.

>>382970796
I'm sorry if you can't enjoy random shit like that happening you don't like fun. Goddamn shit like that is what keeps you on your toes.

>>382981451
>they lack really powerful strength and magic
if you mean stat-wise, thats why you level as something else first then become one when you feel you're strong enough.

and attacks-wise, i also don't think so. an enchanted weapon with abyssal anguish will wreck shit pretty fast, and so will magic cannon + AA and FMS. the ruinous sigil coupled with an enchant can also be pretty strong and even though it takes a while to cast, the stone forest/jungle can deal some good damage.

add in either self-heal or extra damage from perfect blocking, and i don't really see what's mediocre about it. sure it doesn't one-shot everything ala arc, but nothing else does either, maybe short of a lvl 3 grand spell.

>>382982256
The self-healing is unnecessary is you have a good healer in your team and also the ranger i mentioned to deal constant damage from afar, besides you don't need much healing when you have the heaviest armor in the game

Mystic knight are "balanced" i guess and are fun to play as but they don't quite fulfill the purpose of a tank, high damage or DPS. It's about taste i guess

>>382982958
to me they fulfil high-dps quite well. mount the thing and hit that weak spot with AA enchanted blade and it'll hurt bad.

and not taking damage so long as you learn to block seems more than tanky enough for me, with the added bonus of dealing damage right back and staggering stuf.

>>382967447
>game world is barren with litterally nothing to explore
>talk about what they see=WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS 3457875 times
>same enemies spawn at the same places, 5 different mobs in the entire game

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If I'm playing a Fighter/Warrior/Mystic Knight, and my pawn is a Fighter/Warrior, am I doing it right or doing it wrong?

I've heard that having the pawn be what you are is beneficial because it learns how to play properly.

Am I gonna be screwed for a lack of range later on? Will my pawn have to go Strider/Ranger too?

I don't want to min/max but I don't want to be gimp either.

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I love Dragon's Dogma enough to claim that it's the main inspiration for what my own game's gameplay is planned to be.

Sequel when?

>>382985128
try it out, you can change class whenever if things don't work out but mystic does have some ranged ability. keep in mind you can hire other pawns too

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I did not know you could spam multiple surging light tomes at once. Throwblasts are what really won me this run though
Anyone else start new file to get ready for this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/378/?

>>382985771
Care to share more about your game?

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>>382979464
>equips the entirely customizeable pawns with fire spells
>blame them for casting it

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>try to make a shota pawn
>the boy voices are just the man voices pitched up

>>382981451
>Mystic Knights don't perform as DPS

Abyssal Anguish says hi

>>382967152
It's not our fucking fault you have shit taste

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>>382986672
>make a fat warrior with bad posture called Neckbeard
>get bad reviews

>>382986672
There's literally only two voice actors per gender. Rest of the voices are just pitch changes.

is there a way to mod stamina so i can run for longer distances?

>>382967152
I came to this thread just to say you should stop playing video games and kill yourself. Srsly

>played DD for the first time
>had a good time and enjoyed it
>never played bitterblack or the post-game
>want to start a new file because I forget how to play
>the beginning is SO GOD DAMN BORING
>uninstall and never try again

>>382986672
>not just making a cute young man with voice 3

>>382974547

Yeah nah, skyrim spell are both weak in damage and boring to see, in DD you can summon huge as fuck ice pillars, summon a tornado that will slap harpies screaming from the sky.

Being a mage in DD is at least fun, but really pratical, I give you that, in a world where rogues can solo daimon in 30 seconds, being anything else besides a rogue is not useful.

>>382974554
you can do that? i didn't think ferrystones would work on escorts. Thought they only worked on you and your pawns.

Is there a way to move saves so i can make a new character without deleting my old one. Kinda sick of playing 2h right now, but i don't wanna wipe out my character

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What is bitterblack isle? Is it some kind of grinding-grounds? When should I visit this location?

>>382983981
>game world is barren with litterally nothing to explore
False. There are some good places worth exploring for farming and grinding.
>talk about what they see=WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS 3457875 times
Yeah, that's what happens when you only run around in noob places with wolves around.
>same enemies spawn at the same places, 5 different mobs in the entire game
Different enemies spawn depending on the time and how far you are into the game. You suck at counting if you only got up to 5.

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This sword. This FUCKING sword.

>>382987494
Yeah, I enjoy the zones like witchwood, catacombs and the like. Even the shortcut was enjoyable but scary

Why the fuck doesn't Capcom give us the PS4 release date already?
I want to jump back to this game.

>>382987269
hookmod lets you run indefinitely outside the towns, you can also just edit your stamina if you want.
>>382987395
I know, especially since you have to cart the hydra to Gran Soren every playthrough before you can use the ferrystone
>>382987458
You can start it at any time after you get your pawn, but it's hard to stop doing it and go back to the main story, because BBI is so much more fun especially if you've already explored most of Gransys.

>>382987457
sure does, makes escorts a breeze. there might be a mod for more saves but i dont know of it, i just max every class and switch when i get bored of one

>>382987458
go there when you can and try your luck, it has the strongest critters in the game and the strongest gear

The only game where I am truly glad I paid money for.

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>Travelling around exploran
>"Hellfire Grove is a pretty cool name I wonder where it gets that"
>suddenly OH SHIT IT'S THAT DRAGON TIME TO SHOW HIM MY DOGMA
>The sun sets as we start to fight
>Mages doing magethings, I'm shooting arrows and trying to ground it so damage can be done
>Suddenly goblins show up
>Suddenly two of my pawns are KO'd
>Sun rises just as I kill the beast and begin the journey back to Gran Soren

It's such a shame that more games don't take a similar stance on exploration, hardly any games that I can think of have bosses that just hang out in the open world like hella strong enemies.

This game is hot garbage and I hate all the consoleponies that shilled it until I bought it, fuck you, cunts.

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>>382987981
you just bought Dark Arisen, then? you had to get a full new 'Dark Arisen' copy to get the new stuff if you already had the original version. at least Bitterblack and the eternal ferrystone were worth it

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>>382988297
Hell yeah dude

I'm not trying to minmax, but how much levels do I want for myself and my pawn from the vocations to get characters that are not too weak, or to make them well balanced?
Also, how does my pawn get ''rented''? Is it only when I'm not playing myself, or can it be on another arisens game even when I'm playing myself?

>>382988469
max all the vocations for the game style you like so you have access to all their passives i.e. lvling soldier and warrior will give you STR passives which you can use on a dagger using class and boost their melee a lot

your pawn is always available for hire as long as your char exists and even if you delete it, it will stay in its hired party until dismissed

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>mfw realizing just how deep the lore goes

Just installed this, any tips?
Should i go KB+M or use a controller?

>>382992107
Controller for sure

>>382974037
>>382974547
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtw2_ipOXK8

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>tfw nobody hirin'

>>382983981
This.

Can you enter and leave BBI at will? I want to pick up some stronger gear to mitigate the absurd health bars of main game enemies.


>>382988814

>max all the vocations for the game style you like so you have access to all their passives i.e. lvling soldier and warrior will give you STR passives

Damn, wish I knew this when I started out. Is it ever too late to do this? I'm pretty far along with my Assassin.

>>382992107
Some vocations fighters and sorcerers are better with a controller, some archers with KB+M.

>>382970296
I've gone through multiple game cycles and the only times I've had to switch from being a warrior was when I was fighting the Ur Dragon and when I was fighting Daimon's Awakened form.

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>first playthrough: Figher, with Warrior pawn
>current playthrough: Ranger, with Sorcerer pawn
I really wish my fucking pawn would do something.

>>382992654
you can indeed

it's never too late to lvl up vocations for their passives. you can even get magic dmg passives from sorc/mage to boost the magic dmg of your daggers if they do any

>>382992915

Sweet, thanks.

Also:
>Daggers

I use s-sword and board for my Assassin. Pls no bully

>>382992901
a 'trick' for caster pawns is to not level up their abilities to keep the cast times short since they love trying to reach grand spells even when directly in front of a critter

I had a lot of fun with a Guts build, complete with a Loli Mage Pawn.

>>382992996
A trick is also to spell sync with your pawn.

>>382992996
That only works for the heal spell. All others you should be maxing out.

>enter Bitterblack Isle at lvl 50
>spend half an hour trying to kill Daimon

>>382993148
works for all, i personally rather have a first tier spell that actually gets cast than a constantly staggered mid-chant pawn

>>382993312
They never will be, you need them to have the highest buff spells and if you're casting a spell they have they will start their spell where yours is on the cast bar.

>>382993437
you should carry periapts for enchants when you need them and thats if you main a caster yourself

>>382993540
You're exponentially dumb. I can't even begin to comprehend why you would waste periapts this way when levelling the buff would be way better.

>>382987458
>What is bitterblack isle?
DLC area with its own short story
>Is it some kind of grinding-grounds?
End-game dungeon that can be visited early if you want to. An NPC will appear at night on Cassardis after you go out for the 1st time.
>When should I visit this location?
Optimally, after you fight the dragon and take on the Everfall a bit without finishing it. If you keep going and finish the game you'll have to do NG+ to access it, thats fine as well since everything carries over and like I mentioned, you can access the DLC early.

>>382993592
>>382993540
Not to mention getting all ring/passive to get reduced cast times making casting trivial.

>>382987546
>looks like a double headed dildo
lel

>>382993540
>He uses periapts

LMAO

>>382993835
All the better for fucking enemies up the ass for like 1000% damage with

Also on PC you can basically swap that model out for any other model you want.

is magick archer fun and not trash?

>>382994936
Best class in the game honestly.

>>382994936
MA is too good, that's the problem

>>382993950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et_MaBD8Rgw
?

How do I reset BBI? Is it just exiting to Gransys after the Daimon or Do I have to start ng+?

>>382995479
once you beat daimon the second time it's on BBI v2 for the rest of the cycle, you have to go into NG+ to reset it back to the first version

Also, v1.0 of World Difficulty in a few days, get fucking hype

>>382995123
Is that all? Barely worth the effort.

How the fuck I catch that thief in the first village? I've been trying to catch him like ten fucking minutes, he goes sanicspeed.

>>382997598
Bump into him so he staggers.

>>382997598
I caught him in about 10 seconds by chance. All I did was walk out the Inn, saw a shadow of someone and just sprinted up and grabbed him. I thought it was a rather underwhelming quest but appreciated the money/coin nonetheless.

>>382997598
get rusted bow
switch to strider
threefold his ass with the rusty bow until he gets torpor'd
walk up to him and grab him

>>382998240
Now that's a strategy I haven't heard of before.
Does it work or do you just kill him?

>>382998396
I don't think he can die but he will run away from you until a world reset (7 ingame days)

Which isn't ideal because he's part of a quest later in the game

>>382997598
What is your vocation?

>>382997598
He runs on a set path around the village. Just follow and spam grab to catch him when he turns around.

>>382974547
>I'm just throwing wild guesses out based on my knowledge of spells from other games