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You ready, SMTbros?
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>>382958849
Why is Yukiko going to shoot me?
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Ready for a butchered version of the original?
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>>382958849
Is that Captain Jack and Ryan on the top left? I think they look perfect.
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>>382959065
Ready for a BETTER version of the original? :)
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>>382958849
Yep. I really hope they don't fuck it up. I can't wait to see more of the game and the HD Project on July 9th.
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I never have gotten around to SJ yet, but I know ATLUS is going to create a objectively best outcome canon ending, instead of going with the theme of everything is fucked and in what way will you make the most of it.
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>>382959219
Wait what's happening on the 9th?
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Who's that handsome, trustworthy looking fellow on the right?
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never got around to playing the original

if someone could list out what's being improved upon or added, that'd be swell
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>>382959646
also pls no spoilers
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>>382958849
Ready. Dungeon-crawlers are GOAT.

>>382959457
Gameplay footage and news about the 25th anniversary. Some people are speculating it's SMT HD, though I don't know how much more they can show when it's still early in development.
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>>382958849
Cover looks pretty cool. Arthur is just kinda of there though.
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Nice boxart but I hate how they dropped the GOAT title for the west and I dunno about the changes to the game itself
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>>382959685
Yukiko is a new waifu that's been added into the story and almost with 100% certainty is a new villain that is responsible for things going even more wrong and fucked up than in the original game
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>>382958849
yeah, and I'm not triggered but the new artstyle or characters
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Superior boxart coming through.
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>>382959646
>new ending
>new forced waifu
>more demons
that's it
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>>382959367
That's my biggest fear, and I'm especially worried that Nukiko is going to be a super goddess that's the key to everything or something
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>>382958849
Looks good, I never played the original, but from what I know, the maps are premade.
I hate premade maps in dungeon crawlers.
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>>382959959
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>>382960000
there's an extra dungeon tied to the new character I think
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>>382960000
>new forced waifu
I'd bet actual money she's not a real waifu and is just a front for a new villain that will fuck you over
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>>382960070
Seriously? This isn't a roguelike/lite, handcrafted level design is better than procedurally generated trash.
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>>382960178
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>>382959367
Didn't nmsj pretty much start the neutral wankery?
I mean neutral is objectively the best route unless you like lady gaga's greatest hits.
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>>382960070
What difference does it make if you've never played it before? The dungeon layout will be new to you either way.
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>>382960178
lol this is a good one
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>>382960326
>Expecting anything less than the standard Atlas shitty remake waifu
We've gone through this song and dance several times already
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it's beautiful. SJ is such a great game, it's everything SMT needs to be
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>>382960482
Ricky is great tho
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>>382960347
I fucking despise procedural generation, what makes you think I want that?
>>382960438
I just like making my own maps. Takes away a lot of the feeling of exploring something if you have a map just handed to you.
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>>382959523
i wonder, indeed
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>>382960730
You had a typo.

>I hate premade maps in dungeon crawlers.
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>>382960931
Yes? That isn't a typo, I hate premade maps, as in maps that are fully laid out and given to the player, rather than the player mapping it out themselves.
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>>382958849
What a beautiful diverse cast! Thank you ATLUS :)
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>>382958849
The new art sucks, Kaneko please come back
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>>382961030
Premade maps refers to maps that aren't procedurally generated, not ones that you don't have to draw yourself.
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>>382961051
Go fuck yourself.
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>>382961030
Sorry I was being retarded and realized that right after I hit submit, I thought you meant the areas themselves by "map".
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>>382958849
Fuck this gay shit. Where the FUCK is my Nocturne remake for PS4!!?!?!?!?!?
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>>382961135
The term is fairly interchangeable as it can be used to denote a map that is premade for the player or your definition, although I can see why you interpreted that way.
I've cleared up what I meant though, so there shouldn't be any further issues.
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>>382961102
Just like always demons still looks better than humans
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>Those faces behind Jack and Ryan.
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>>382961051
The funniest thing is that nigger is in command and a woman is the head of a science division. Marxism everyone!
>>382961204
>le sjw
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>>382961427
THICC
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>>382961427
Well duh. The series is about demons, not humans.
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>>382961309
What you really meant was pre-drawn. :)
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>>382961427
They finally made a Persona neck demon?
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Yukiko's helmet is CUTE!
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I miss Kaneko.
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>>382961427
Doi's designs just keep getting better and better after Final. His best work yet should be in SMTV.
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>>382961427
>Bottom screen shows sprites instead of artwork.
I hope that's just an option, I really liked the portraits.
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>>382960178
>>382960376
what's the consensus about doom 3?
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>>382960482
Do not bully the Freddie.
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>>382961607
So that's a demonica for...a demon?
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>>382961581
I suppose you could use that term but premade fits equally well. It simply means the map has been made already, and is a word that would be used when stemming from "map making" rather than "map drawing."
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>>382961756
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>>382961680
it looks really bad this way with all the empty space, big mistake
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I've never played this. Someone describe what the gameplay is like if it isn't Press-Turn. Is it like Persona?
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>>382958849
>no Anthony on the cover
Dropped.
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>>382961904
It's much worse
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>>382961904
It's pretty classic JRPG turn based combat, exploiting weakness won't give you extra turns but it initiates a Demon Co-Op attack if they share the alignment.
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>>382961904
Demon Co-op. You hit weakness, demons of the same alignment to the demon that hit the weakness (Law, Chaos, Neutral) hit for extra damage

So it's the standard hit weakness for extra damage stuff, but a lot more damage if you build your team right
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>>382961904
Hitting weakness causes demons in your party of the same alignment to do a followup attack
Combat is easily the weakest part of the game
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>>382961705

Decent horror shooter, lackluster Doom game.
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>>382961904
It's Dragon Quest in terms of deciding on moves.
You decide on all your moves before a round of combat and then it all plays out without input from you until next round of combat.
Exploiting weaknesses is instead rewarded with all party members of the same alignment of the member that just exploited a weakness dealing damage to the same target.
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>Atlus still won't do a full on Remake of SMT 1 and 2.
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Might pick it up if it comes with a nice LE. I could stand it together with the ds release.
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>>382961904
When a party member hit a weakness other party members do a follow up attack if they have the same alignment. It's an incentive to use demons of the same alignment as the MC but exploiting weaknesses isn't nearly as important as it is on Press Turn. It's a much simpler version of the battle system used in Tokyo Mirage Sessions.
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>>382961607
>>382958849
Kaneko's more realistic human designs really don't fit doi's style
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>>382962137
This sounds even more annoying than making sure you have demons that hit weaknesses in regular SMT. So hitting weaknesses alone doesn't give extra damage?
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>>382962267
The demonica was ruined forever for me when someone pointed out the goofy smiley face
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>>382962054
So it's a Baton Pass.

Are they seriously gonna start ripping off elements of P5 so soon?
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>>382962375
that made it better for me
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>>382962318
It doesn't look like Doi even.
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You are now reminded that this exists.
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>>382962401
Strange Journey came out before P5. But I'm sure you knew that.
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>>382959707
The 25th anniversary is in October.
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>>382960070
The full floor layouts aren't given to you, the spaces get filled in as you walk on them. At least that's what it was like in the original.
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>>382962361
>So hitting weaknesses alone doesn't give extra damage?
What? Yes, but if you got dudes of similar alignment they assist. Of course regular weakness stuff is there.
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>>382962401

>SJ
>Ripping off a game that came out nearly a decade after it

Nigga please.
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>>382962482
Eridanus is baby tier, Grus was the one that really tested my patience.
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>>382962469
That's because it isn't. Only Alex + Amon were drawn by Doi. Everyone else and the redraws were done by Atlus Design Team.
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>>382962361
Hitting weakness alone does extra damage, but in certain case, well, you will need the Co-op damage
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>>382962546
Oh ok
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>>382962571
The bottom two maps are Grus
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>>382962318
AFAIK Doi only drew Nukiko and the new demons, everything else was done by interns or some shit like that. He must be busy with the Switch game.
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>>382962528
Eh, well then it's not all bad. Can you at least mark down spots with annotations?
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>>382962469
Yeah, I know what you mean I actually like doi's human designs, but he really dropped the ball on this one.
The messiahs in smt IVA looked pretty good.
I am not sure why this looks so shitty.
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>>382958849
WHY THE FUCK THE PARTY MENUS USES SPRITES INSTEAD OF FULL ART?!
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>>382962631
Why does Atlus have to be so kind and generous to their secondary teams? Why can't they overwork their main artists to death like every other normal company?
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>>382962798
Not in the original, don't know if they've added that into the remake
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>>382962849
Because sometimes the secondary teams put out some true gold.
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Doi can't draw good dem-
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>>382962740
>>382962631
Oh nvm this >>382962841 then.
If what you said is true then that makes way more sense
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>>382962892
Well hey, atlus is pretty decent at remakes so maybe there'll be some new stuff aside from space yukiko.
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>>382962482
What was the sector where everything was reverse-colours? Fuck that area, it has no style of its own, it has no grace.
Every other sector was fine by me.
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>Apocalypse has all the messiahs featured in the DLC
>Except for Space Marine.
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>>382961607
Is that another not-canon protagonist?
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>>382962941
This fucking sucked though. Merkabah was a better design
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>>382961727

Leave Yukiko to Ricky.
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>>382963115
wat?
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>>382962941
Doi is pretty much Kaneko's successor at this point. Unless you imply that it was thanks to the guest artist Lucifer that Doi was able to fix it in FINAL, in which case I agree.
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>>382963117
I was obviously joking, if you want a true god tier design look no further than pic related.
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>>382962982
>Literally just Demon Xemnas

When will Atlus stop copying Square?
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>>382961427
Anahita a cute.
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>>382963117
Merkabah was good since IV. His art just look blurry and shitty

IV's Lucifer though, Kaneko and Soejima probably would trash that rather than trying to redraw it
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>>382962982
>Vishnu-Flynn will never be fusable.
This sucks man, why are the coolest demons not fusable?
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>>382961607
>Instead of tacticool angular hardware we get a Kpop DJ helmet
Fuck Atlas sometimes
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>>382958849
Jesus christ that art is garbage
Why did they fire the original guy?
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>>382960347
Most levels generated by NetHack have more interesting features in them than any SMT map.
JRPG dungeon design is trash.
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>>382963106
Space Marine didn't die like some scrub, and didn't need Stephen to hold his hand.

>>382963117
The Lucifier in Apocalypse was a fake because he's a sleeper agent for YHVH.
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>>382962941
I tolerate this design just because Lucifer II was excellent in the context of SMT4.
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>>382958849
This looks like a fan made cover art. Hopefully the game itself will be better.
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>>382963115
No it's Marie
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>>382963323
Kaneko is with the flowers now.
Let him be.
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>>382963387
Superior cover art coming through.
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On mem aleph. How do I stop her from kicking my ass so hard?
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Mastema did nothing wrong
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>>382963380
>that scarf
No matter how many times I see it it still unnerves me.
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>>382958849
That is one pretty cool boxart, but the "sprites instead of full art" pisses me off enough to not wanting this.
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>>382963503
Fuse reflect all demons
Grind
Those are your only options really
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>>382963106
>Space Marine
Don't you mean Vending Machine?
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>>382963503
Well I beat her by getting into a rhythm of Thor striking her face, Pale Rider doing the same and Quezacoatl thorwin gout full party heals while I chucked items to keep everyone going.
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>>382963515
God didn't tell him to make humans stand on top of skyscrapers and make them sing.
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>>382963515
He was actually a legit good guy in IV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX5wOBy_Zu4
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>>382958849
Box art looks sick, well done Atlas. Excited to play through this one early next year
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3wS7QEwUbs
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>>382963917
>create Mikado and the shitty class system
>good
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25th Anniversary Special Box
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>>382963515
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>>382963917
In Apocalypse he was working for the Axiom, not the retard who calls himself YHVH.
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>>382964132
It was either that or Tokyo gets totally leveled by angels. It was a compromise that had to be made.
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>>382963917
The only reason he betrayed the Archangels was for his own chance to be God's good little boy. Same as Strange Journey, he was a huge self serving asshole fucking things up for everyone else, acting without God's permission in the hopes of moving up in the hierarchy.
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Are you guys saying that we won't be able to build a party of our favorite demons due to needing demons of the right alignment (Law, Chaos, Neutral) in battle?
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>>382964132
It was Gabriel who created Mikado and the class system. Mastema opposed it.
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>>382958849
im sorry but who the fuck is the girl with the headphones and can someone explain what her deal is in the game and story
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>>382963036
Did anyone else notice the giant woman in the background holding Johnny and wally in her hands.
I just noticed it.
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>>382964396
For the most part you don't need to worry about the extra damage that Demon Coop gives
It makes battles go a little faster but it's not THAT substantial
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>>382964396
The damage bonus from co-op isn't that substantial, nothing like the press turn system. At least one or two bosses can also kill all x-alignment party members too so you're encouraged to diversify sometimes.
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>>382964396
Nah, you just get some bonus damage every time you hit a weakness that grows stronger with every demon sharing your alignment in your party. You can safely ignore this feature and get by just fine.
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>>382964502
Probably Burroughs
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>>382961437
probs the three wise men
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>>382964159
>Law & Chaos
>Sound Relation
Are the Memorial Arrange Tracks CDs actually new stuff, then?
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>>382964396
Oh no you can use any demons you want, it's just that if you want to make use of Demon Co-op, which ain't a big deal, same alignment is needed.
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>>382964470
She's Marie with what looks to be a beyblade launcher as a weapon
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>>382964159
>6 fucking music CDs
What? but SJ lacked music, does this means they will fix that?
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>>382958849
>Lucifer
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>>382964318
Take this with a grain of salt, but I heard in /smtg/ that it was said in the IVA artbook that Mastema used to be one of akira's demons and he sent Flynn to imprison the archangels to fulfill Akira's wishes.
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>>382962925
SHIN KAIJU SENSOU WHEN
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>>382964769
It's 6 whole CDs of HEEHO-core
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>>382963503
Complete all the sidequest for the best item, and pray for good rng.
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>>382964789
That's confirmed in the IV DLC
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I'm not. I want this to be a Switch Game so badly, what's the point in going from Low Res Sprites to Low Res Sprites, Sega CD Environments to PS1 Environments and Touch Controls to Touch Controls?

The 3DS had a good run but it's coming to an end. Get on with it.
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>>382964789
It's the Archangels DLC. Mastema is implied to make a pact with Akira like how Minotaur did and sit in that cave for hundreds of years punching samurais
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>>382961705
It's fun as fuck despite the different tone. The expansion packs are just a waste of time though.
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>>382964925
>The 3DS had a good run but it's coming to an end
Now you are fucking wrong.
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>>382964769
It's the 25th anniversary of the SMT series.
Don't be so dense, nigger.
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>>382964917
>>382964959
Oh my bad I never finished the IV dlc.
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>>382964769
What if Meguro and the other guy made new music
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I wish the other games had an initial demon as cool as Pascal
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>>382964789
I just can't accept some shitty time travel DLC as a plot point if they're not going to back it up elsewhere
The paradox that is Flynn imprisoning the Archangels before he's born is too stupid
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>>382958849
Why couldn't they get Kaneko to redo his art? Why did they have to make it look awful and generic?
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>>382965025
The thing is 6 Years Old, dropped 70% in price and Nintendo has released a new Handheld Console by now. Stop deluding yourself.
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>>382965065
Isn't Meguro working for Re:Fantasy? If Koduka (IV duology) does these then I'm looking forward to this. IV's remix of the old tracks are great
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>>382965294
Re:Fantasy is still in the pre-production phase, so I doubt he's doing a whole lot right now
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>>382964769
http://vgmdb.net/album/5948
http://vgmdb.net/album/4249

It's the soundtracks to SMT1&2, plus two CDs worth of what I assume to be newly arranged stuff. Unless they just compile a couple CDs off the numerous other albums they have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggX3AdCWm9A
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Isabeau is not for bullying or lewd.
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>>382965250
Because Kaneko doesn't give a single shit about making art anymore.
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>>382965402
>>/y/
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>>382964925
>Genesis and PS1

Sounds like better systems than anything from Gen 7, let's get more of that
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Should I get this even if I've never played any SMT?
Those uniforms look really cool
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>>382958849
why does zelenin have yukari hair
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>>382965294
>IV's remix of the old tracks are great
IV's OST in general is great the IV Duology has the best OST in the franchise in my opinion.
I an actually hyped for the hd project's OST if it is made by Koduka.
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>>382965510
Yes.
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>>382965250
You can't force him to.
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>>382965531
>nukari
>stupenez
>nukiko
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>>382958849
So is it gonna be dubbed or not?
If not I hope at least they let us turn off the japanese voices.
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>>382965537
That's one ugly looking dog
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>tfw sold 3DS for Switch and then all of these games coming out that are actually interesting to me (DSJ, Metroid, FE Echoes, M&L SS remake)

Fuck me I hope that Citra emulator gets a huge performance boost soon, playing SMT 4 at 10-17 fps sucks
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>>382965510
Sure but it probably won't be out in English until at least next April
No reason you couldn't play the original though, it still holds up fine
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>>382965510
Sure, it's an pretty good place to start. But if you don't like first person dungeon crawling I suggest you start with Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne or Shin Megami Tensei IV.
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>>382958849
I hope Not-Yukiko is one of the ancient civilizations mentioned by the 3 wise men.
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>>382965662
>bullying free zone asahi.jpg.
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>>382965551
yeah IV and IV:A easily have the best SMT soundtrack imo
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>>382965551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrx1sZYgp7E

Best track.
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>>382962264
>no official release of megami tensei 1 and megami tensei 2 in america
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>>382958849
>Mastema's mask sticking out due to his jewnose

Oy vey, goyim, join Law
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>>382965825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz-3ZuqLQg8
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>>382965895
The fantranslation is pretty good from what I've played. I'm upset that Devil Summoner and Majin Tensei never made it over though.
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>>382965895
>tfw want to play the original MT2 over Kyuuyaku because of the unique and objectively better Namco expansion sound but the English patch is unfinished with no sign of it getting completed any time soon
fug
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>>382965781
>>382965825
I fucking loved how well it captured that 80's cyber punk tone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2ikOeXkyU
It probably is my favorite OST of all time
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>yfw he doesn't get Death Flies again
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>>382960482
We can go all the way back to fucking Dante/Raidou in Nocturne.
Let's go over the retarded forced Atlus remake waifus shall we?

SMT III - Dante/Raidou - Mostly Inoffensive since they didn't greatly affect the story, even in the Labyrinth of Amala.
Persona 3 - Metis - The Answer was pretty mediocre in terms of the gameplay. Metis was mediocre as a character as well, but it didn't fuck up the core of the original.
Trauma Center: Second Opinion - Nozomi Weaver - Happened to have the exact same power as Derek, but she came into her own and is a decent character.
Persona 2 Eternal Punishment Portable - Shiori Miyashiro - The Tatsuya Scenario is the best add-on to an Atlus game remake so far, and Shiori actually added to the story in a good way.
Persona 3 Portable - Fem MC - NOT CANON
Persona 4 Golden - Marie - Here is where we start getting into garbage territory, with this fucking terrible character. This had forced Mary Sue bullshit written all over it.
Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl - Ricky - Haven't played it. I'll need you anons to fill me in.
Devil Summoner 2: Record Breaker - Miyako - This was as retarded as the fucking garbage anime.

Which leads us to the two 3DS remakes that Atlus is releasing. Radiant Historia and Strange Journey. Both include a new female character that is the "star" of a new scenario, and judging by the current track record, they will be terrible, add nothing of value to the original plot, and probably be a forced Mary Sueish type character.

Thankfully Odin Sphere and Muramasa seem to have been spared of this annoying bullshit.
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>>382964542
>>382964557
>>382964603
>>382964671

Thanks. That's good to hear
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>>382964159

>Localized version will be one CD with five tracks and a 30-page art "book."
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>>382966046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7M_g_LJn3Q
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>>382966054
>IV:A give demons unique skills again
>he doesn't get one
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>>382965825
>>382965967
>>382966046
There are few tracks as atmospheric as this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDsDYCI3fyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc5rboSunV0
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>>382966078
>as the fucking garbage anime
What are you talking about, anon there is no anime.
It never happend.
You people really say the darndest things at times.
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>>382966296
https://youtu.be/E7VZAAAs-YI
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>>382958849
>original has one of the most iconic game covers in history
>remake has this generic anime shit
what did we do to deserve this
thank god it's japanese audio only though
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>>382965767
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>>382964159
I really like the Shiva and Michael SMT I call back on the box. It is a really nice touch. Too bad we won't get this.
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>>382966198
>>382966221
>>382966296
I just want give a shout out to pluto's castle, people never really mention it, but that bassline is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQshvU18RDw
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I just hope the new HD game is a return to form for the series. I'm getting sick of hanging around persona waifufags that barely get why P5 is good to begin with.
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>>382966078

>Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl - Ricky - Haven't played it. I'll need you anons to fill me in.
Ricky is not waifu.
But seriously, I think it's not fair to include the Untold games because they added an entire party and some extra characters for an optional story mode, not just a waifu.
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>>382966078
>Marie

THE NAME'S MARIE SUE
AND I ROCK THE TELLY
I'M HALF IZANAMI
AND THE THIRD SAGIRI

I WRITE POETRY
ENJOY MY OC
I SHOP AT HOT TOPIC
YOU'RE THE FOOL I PITY
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>>382966512
thank you.
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>>382966632
Lucifer's Palace really nails the feeling of fighting something much bigger than yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFuWf_copM8
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>>382966616
Yeah, but hopefully someone will rip the CDs and scan the artbook. I don't think anyone has scanned the IVA artbook yet, which makes me really sad.
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>>382965895
So I'm playing Megami Tensei 1 on emulator right now.
>no proper map besides using mappa/drawing your own map
>levels are fucking enormous and having no automap makes it worse
>these demons keep kicking my ass holy shit
>need to grind for a while if i want any good demons to stand a chance against Hecate
>there's only 1 save point and 1 cathedral in the entire game
Should I keep going on or is it probably not worth it at this point?
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>>382966846
If only the actual dungeon and the visuals that went with it weren't terrible. IV being stuck on the 3DS is a hate crime.
IVA meanwhile who really cares
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>>382966858
I'm still waiting on a clean image of the key art so I can make another one of those wallpapers with the logo on a black background and the art to the side.
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>>382966078
>Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl - Ricky - Haven't played it. I'll need you anons to fill me in.

>Explore ruins.
>Find Ricky in cryo
>Starts as a grumpy "muh mission" bitch.
>Gradually warms up to everyone.
>Turns out her mission was activating a nuke that would wipe out the entire area.
>Tells her robot buddy that's bullshit and you kick his ass when he tries to go through with it anyways.

That's about it.
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>>382966078
You know sometimes I get the feeling that the Trauma Center games share a universe with Persona.
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>>382966492
>the one Megaten that should have an English dub
>being Japanese dub only is a good thing
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>>382964318
Mastema was like that in the original lore as well. Devs do their research on this shit.
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>>382961904
Imagine TMS#FE's polished battle system except a version of it that is completely inferior and completely sucks dick. That's demon co-op.
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>>382966738
Fair enough. I just wanted to kinda list out Atlus's bad habit with these fucking remakes.

>>382966801
Get the fuck out of this thread Marie, the only people who like you are worthless otaku.
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>>382966846
Most of the dungeons themes are great, but you know what I can saynthe sane for almost every track in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCvnkg4ncY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj7Z4sKR73g
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>>382963380
why did he have to go?
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>>382966927
Play Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei. It's an SNES remake of MT1 and MT2. They fix a ton of your issues.
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>>382967049
>Devs do their research on this shit
This is the sign that your dev give a shit about their game and its world.
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>>382958849
>Radiant historia
>EO5
>Strange jewing
Im not ready for this. And is just a fraction of the shit we are getting on the 3ds
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>>382961607
>she actually has a helmet
Thank god, faith in ATLUS restored. Now she just needs an actually decent motivation for hating the MC without being some retarded tsundere love interest.
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Dungeon crawlers are boring.
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>>382967006
Nah, that'd be Etrian Odyssey.
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>>382967317
ur bait is boring
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>>382966846
It sounds like Infini from Megami Tensei at some parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geRlG8ylCR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5egPo-5aTQ

If this was the intention, it was a good throwback then.
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>>382967240
Nintendi really wasn't kidding when they said they will not drop the 3ds for the switch.
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I hope all of you son of man be a good hero and pick the law route.
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>>382967006
I always felt that Trauma Center and Ace Attorney could have had an interesting cross over story, but in retrospect maybe it was just because at the time they were DS games based off of occupations no one thought would be fun to play.
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>>382963313
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>>382967238
I'm glad Atlus never really compromised on this even for Persona 4. Of course there was barely anything going on in that game but they still put in the effort.
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>>382965387
holy shit this song is amazing
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>>382967457
I would stuff my dick into this monkey
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>>382967483
There's no stopping this train.
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>>382967462
Could be tokyo.battle theme is pretty similiar to the first smt battle theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd6zu7anvgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PDKYOF3Nk
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>>382967320
>tfw Derek and Angie were removed in the Untolds
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>>382965402
>good isabeau lewds
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>>382967009
It is a good thing because it sets a precedent for the future. Also fuck you for insinuating any game would be better dubbed period, get taste you fucking ape.
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>>382958849

Yeah I guess. I haven't even played the original yet, only got into Megami Tensei last year.
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>>382967727
Game most likely throws back a lot given they used Ginza for the Tournament theme as well.

Also the pre battle theme too/Demon Dialogue/Post Battle in IV sounds a lot like SMT I's too.
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>The artist behind Devil Survivor will never make a mainline game.
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>>382967897
and thank god for that
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>>382967659
The poor fools blindly praising SMT4's soundtrack as the best in this thread need to learn about Majin Tensei
I mean I still agree SMT4 is numero uno but goddamn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqz97a4jqU
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>>382967897
good, he can't fucking draw.
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>>382967727
Many, many, many of the songs in SMT IV are influenced by SMT I, especially considering SMT IV is a colossal homage to SMT I and to an extent II.
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>>382967825
Hey SMT IVA had some very good performances.
Poo in the loo, COMPLETE, hoy and Dad were great.
IV Nozomi was also pure sex, but just like IV Nozomi she is but now a distant dream.
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after reading some wikipedia articles it seems that Mastema basically IS Satan
Why have Satan be the judge in SMT4A when they could have just used Mastema?
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>>382958849

Post yfw this just makes it extremely obvious that Kaneko's art is completely inferior to Doi and Soejima's
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>>382967965
Good to see someone with solid taste. Evolution was the best of the soundtrack for MTII.

Shame the composer died though. He was also the same guy who did Persona 1 for Playstation.
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>>382967787
They are rarer than getting a fiend encounter my friend.
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>>382967992
I wouldn't know because by the time IVA came out I had already realized the most enjoyable way to play dub only games is with the voices off and volume at 0 during the cutscenes.
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>>382967897
I love Yasuda's style more but he doesn't have the same wide appeal.
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>>382960000

Isn't there also a save anywhere option?
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Yasuda>Doi.
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>>382967742
But Atlus added a Hoffman cameo. I don't get it.
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>>382968106
Shame P1 had some killer tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7z5AZ-wXY
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>>382967897

I like Yasuda titties, but I don't want them anywhere near mainline.
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Do you answer the call?
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>>382958849
Why is Mastema posing there with them in that generic ass JRPG group pose? It looks so bizarre and out of place.

This cover as a whole is just terrible. This is SMT, not Tales of.
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>>382968347
DENY THE CALL
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>>382968347
>don't answer
>pic related ensues
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>>382958849
Why is the box case black? Did any other 3DS games have this, if so which ones?
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>>382967897
As much as I dont personally like Yasudas art, at least it has it's own personality and style. Leagues above Doi and his "traced out of a generic anime how to book" style. Zero uniqueness or personal charm with Doi.
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>>382968460
All japanese 3DS games are like that. I don't know why the fuck they thought white looked better in the west, it totally doesn't.
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>>382968106
A true loss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEN2Uo6RFR0
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>>382968435
Mastema is right behind Zelenin, and Bugaboo is right behind Jimenez.
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>>382968460
Japanese cases are like that.
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>>382967897
I just want DeSu 3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37X2TJv4jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNwEGyKKRUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mr5_9id680
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>>382968435

SMT1 did it.
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Playing Overclocked atm. Metatron literally descends on Yuzu's 8th day to tell humanity to go fuck themselves.

Vanilla DeSu 2 > Overclocked when it comes to gameplay sadly. I was hoping they'd add more shit in the remake like the enhanced racial skills.
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>>382963735
Where's the little comic strip about this?
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never really got a chance to point this out anywhere before, but https://youtu.be/KgRNa7bfvoI
sounds a lot like
https://youtu.be/Mz-3ZuqLQg8
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>>382968178
>voices off and volume at 0 during the cutscenes
>volume at 0 during the cutscenes
But then you misses out on COMPLETE 5.67 BILLION SALVATION theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSznwuxG6d4
>tfw Krishna was talking about his love and salvation and how I should become one with him in that sweet voice of his.
They really dropped the ball with having no freeing humanity from poo in the koo ending in IVA.
I totally would have been down to fuck up YHVH with toot and his designated squad.
I mean how cool would it have been to fight YHVH with Vishnu-Flynn, odin, Mithra-buddga and satan?
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>>382966078
How is the female MC in Persona 3 a forced waifu?
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>>382968893
The beginning part sounds like something from Nocturne as well.
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>>382968135
tell me about it
that's why i want the source, if there's more
>>382967119
>>382967457
these are pretty much the only good ones i've seen
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>>382968992
But anon, they have to leave something to add in future IV+IVA ports.
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>>382969001
It doesn't start getting into forced waifus until P4G. I was just pointing out characters that were added into remakes and their varying degrees of goodness, which they are few and far between.
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>>382968821
Did you go best route yet?
>>382968645
I want one too.
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>>382968992
I literally cannot express to you how little I care. Hearing shitty english voice acting in a Japanese game is possibly one of the most ear-grating things I can imagine.
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>>382968840
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FINALLY A REAL MEGOOMY GAME LIKE NOCTURNE
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>>382962982
Actually Doi's demons were far better than his humans.
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Satan in Apocalypse is great demon design.
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>>382969319
Why is he so perfect?
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>>382969431
looks like shit
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>>382969318
I was more talking about how you missed out on that theme, but if yiu really hated it that much you should have played it undubbed.
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>>382969579
Freedom
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>>382968645
Wouldn't be surprised if they're currently working on it.
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>>382969579
It's his dreamy smile.
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>>382969641
>Space Marine is the only canon American messiah.
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>>382969814
He's canonically Japanese
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Is the horrible looking battle window still in? I prefered the DS one to the portraits they showed.
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>>382969319
Thanks, anon. This image always gives me a chuckle.
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>You will never read Manga with Isabeau.
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>>382961427
Fucking dropped
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>>382969814
He is jap though in in the nip version.
Spess muhrine being american is as canon as black mark.
canon to the highest degree.
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>>382969319
why do i love seeing images of protagonists from different games hang out so much?
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>>382970004

Huoniao a cute.
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>>382970037
Also Gore is best Neutral Rep.
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>>382970004
how is she so perfect?
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Are they fixing the shitty combat and implementing something actually good instead of the bullshit alignment follow-up attacks
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>>382963314
I find it funny how Ahriman was basically re-used for Shadow Yosuke in Persona 4
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>>382970150
>tfw no SJ movie with Idris Elba as Gore
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>>382970150
I think you're forgetting the game's true Neutral rep.
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>>382970060
They always seem like they have a jolly good time.
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>>382968992
Was Krishna really willing to give up his physical form to become the Universe itself?
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>>382962482
The definition of overdone design. They just kept rehashing this garbage over and over and intensifying it everytime. By the last dungeon I simply didn't give a flying fuck about anything anymore and just wanted it to end.

Way to shit on an otherwise outstanding game.
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>>382970478
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>>382970238
What do you mean I don't see any real similarities except for the human torso on top of monster thing.
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>>382970495
I don't see why not, being the universe itself seems like a thing he would like.
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>>382958849
I pirated the original and played the hell out of it, it's like the AA trilogy, even if I don't play it, I feel like this has earned my purchase.
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>>382963380
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>>382970769
Krishna was clearly the hero Apocalypse needed, but didn't deserve. It's a shame that humanity subconsciously wants to be in YHVH's universe and be ruled by him.
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>>382961756
a Humanica?
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Why is stephen hawkins in this series?
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>>382971195
He originally represent Neutrality in the sense that humans don't need gods or demons to guide them. Then Apocalypse went full retard by making him a Bhudda.
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Anthony ending where you make all the demon bitches your cock thralls when?
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>>382958849
When is this game supposed to be available in English ?
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>>382971353
Wasn't he pretty much transcendant already by smt II?
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>>382971386
>Bulge
Uhmm...
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>>382971678
Puffy vulva
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>>382971678

Puffy vulva.
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>>382971678
Puffy Vulva.
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>>382971678
>pleb doesn't like a puffy vulva
>thinks it's a (bulge)

sounds like you're projecting your desires, anon.
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>>382971713
I liked mikado I wanted to see more of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfYwq35ZAY
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Isabeau is best girl
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>>382972397
She is pretty much only girl in IV.
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>>382972293
>Hoped Apocalypse would have some more areas in Mikado
>lolno
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>>382963106
You didn't spot his cameo?
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>>382972515
>Literally play as Akira
>Go through Naraku even
>Not a single mention of Minotaur
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Homeslice.
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>>382972778
I'd like a slice of that hotcake
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>>382972778
>that cheek
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>>382972959
>When she goes to close the jar of lust
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>>382959156
Ready for a DEEPER version of the original? ;)
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>>382970290
FUCK I NEED IT
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>>382973239
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>>382971473
Q1 2018 I think. Jap audio only so they don't have to waste our time with another garbage dub.
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>>382973518
>>382972959
>No Doujin where she is slowly corrupted and transformed into Inanna.
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>>382973721
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>>382973721
That plot is eerily similar to that DeS doujin with Yuria. I like it.
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>>382973437
We all do anon
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>Apocalypse
>can't get past King Frost
>grinding takes forever

fuck this game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvhsJ1Jhw1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDwBp5ddNOI
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>>382973576
>Jap audio only

Oh yes. Finally. Nobody cares about the dubs... Thanks anon
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>>382974029
I'm not particularly into men or blacks but I would let Idris Elba fuck me absolutely senseless.
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could i play this as my first SMT game?
or is this a direct sequel to something.
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>>382974076
Magaon
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>>382974395
SMT doesn't usually do direct sequels. That said SJ is a fucking awful starting point, start with IV and don't listen to anybody who tells you to play Nocturne, it's fucking clunky and outdated and generally aged badly.
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>>382974152
>listening to any dub at all in a first person dungeon crawler
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>>382974476
I really really like this
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>>382974476
mskdo isn't that smol
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>>382974627
>Apocalypse establishes that she enjoys Yaoi porn manga
>She probably masturbated to the thought of Flynn getting it on with Hoy and Johnathan.
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>>382969431
Worse than Kaneko's
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What are the chances of the new HD SMT looking like this?
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>>382974548
I'd disagree. Naraku is probably the worst dungeon to first play. I wouldn't be surprised if it makes people drop SMT for good.

SJ isn't representative of SMT in terms of dungeon crawling or story but at least it isn't as offensive as Naraku.
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>>382958849
Any gameplay vids?

Also what's supposed to be changed from the original?
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How do I stop sucking at DeSu
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>>382975128
Considering Atlus games are made of a budget of five dollars, not likely.
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>>382975128
>effort
>into the visuals of a mainline game
>or really any SMT game
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>>382975387
Fuse new demons every level. Abuse racial traits.
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>>382975293
New character and story routes
New demons, including story-related ones and bosses
New UI
Portraits, general graphic improvements and character artworks
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>>382975387

Dance.
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>>382975387
Play it some more. DeSu as a series is one of the easiest grid based SRPGs around, you shouldn't have that much trouble. The first one is even designed specifically to be friendly to new players.
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>>382975531
>designed specifically to be friendly to new players.
With those escort missions?
Fuck
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>>382961607
Both Zelenin and Jimenez look so generic... and Gore looks dumb.
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>SMT IV and Apocalypse are set in a tokyo that is still relatively intact
>No opportunity to visit an arcade or Pachi parlor and play minigames for Macca.
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>>382975128
There will never be a 3D SMT game with cyberpunk influences on a homeconsole
because Atlus is fucking dumb. Cyberpunk is gaining popularity but instead, those dimwits'll most likely re-explore Nocturne's bleak "atmosphere" in the HD project.
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>>382975698
>Enter an arcade.
>The only working machine is Puzzle Boy.
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>>382975653
Use an avatar demon. 1 clutch switch can easily swing an entire map.
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>>382975278
Naraku may be difficult but the big reveal afterward is enough to completely draw anybody into the series, guaranteed. I get chills just thinking about it, fuck.
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>>382975850
>this is not the in game graphics
Seriously it should have been on the Wii
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>>382975850
biggest reveal in the game was going relic hunting and finding a fucking dildo
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>>382958849
Is it on freeShop yet?
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>people actually praising the generic as fuck redraws of the characters
It looks fucking horrible. Especially Zelenin. Kaneko's designs > this shit.
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>>382976008
I'd say I agree, the older characters looked way better and this new notyukiko looks too different than even the redrawn cast.
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>>382976008
Nobody does. The demons look good as always but the humans are a drawback
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>>382975387
Go MAG and dance crazy
Fuse everything. Fusing new demons will ultimately be more beneficial in the long run instead of grinding.
Use racial skills. Give an Avian demon to Yuzu so she isn't stuck with shitty 3 Mov. Devil Speed, Flight and Phantasms help early on when you need to get places. Abuse Dragons and Viles together for stupid attack range. Stick a Tyrant on your magic users so they regen MP. Avatars help in escort missions with swapping targets around.
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>>382975850
>>382975940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUbNISdtms

I fucking loved that shit. Definitely made me much more interested in the game. I finished the game in three days after that, I think.
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>>382975981
>Women's Toy
>description: ...
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>>382961286
>Now with optional Femifiend
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>>382958849
Gore is too shiny
Zelenin is too moe
Jimenez looks like shit
Bugaboo looks like it's made of metal now

Jack and Ryan look amazing
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>>382975653
Well I mean the first 4 days specifically. It's not that challenging a game. Racial skills are important anon, use them.
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>>382975718
Nocturne was my first SMT, and after playing SMTIV, I've realized that actually having humans is much better. Really adds to atmosphere.
Playing Strange Journey now, loving the interactions with the team.
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>>382958849
Who the fuck are the guys on the left? Did they run out of important characters to plaster on the cover or something?
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Why Jimenez broke the NAP?
It was completely his fault
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>>382976487
That's Jack the captain I think
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>>382976487
The left is the 'three wise men' who give the crew the demon summoning program, to contrast Louisa Ferre on the right.
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>Spoiling Jack's Squad.
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>>382958849
do we have NA release date yet?
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>>382976779
It's not like anyone would know who they are based on cover alone.
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>>382976779
How would you know that's Jack's Squad if you haven't played the game?
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>>382976738
There are only two.
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>>382977003
There are 3 pairs of eyes in the background to the left. That's them

The 2 guys are another squad
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>>382977003
>>382977120
btfo
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>>382970595
It surprised me how much this got to me the first time I played.
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>>382977120
I was talking about the guys in the first place.
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>>382967119
Izzy is not for lewd!
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>>382977512
Because he actively cared about his crew.
Best end for this game would be him getting a robot body and making it alive while you kill the rest of the retards.
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>>382958849
I'll just stick with the original, this looks somewhat bad
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>>382977616
She is a filthy fujoshi yaoi fangirl.
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I wish concept art would be included in game as palette or portrait swaps.
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>>382977779
Show me a girl who wouldn't watch two guys nail eachother.
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Kill your crewmates, hoot.
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>>382977813
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>>382977865

If they pull that shit im going to be angry
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>>382977865
Kill your friends boyo.
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>>382978037
but dagda
you are my friend
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>>382974548
Why would SJ be worse than any other starting point?

and why specifically IV? Is it because it contains info i would need to fully enjoy SJ?
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>>382976447
I think SJ handled the isolated type of atmosphere better than Nocturne. Interactions with the other characters were minimal in Nocturne, I'm not sure if that was what they were going for in a conscious manner but ultimately, I think Nocturne's atmosphere was born out of budget restrictions. I appreciate the fact that they tried to be creative and use the lack of budget for their advantage but it's obvious that they can achieve much more with a decent budget.

Even though IV had uncanny valley moments, they managed to carry the atmosphere with other elements but on a homeconsole it'd take much more to pull that off, I believe, and SMT is still a niche series so they can't afford a real budget.
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>>382977980
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>>382978001
>killing Anthony
You'd need to be a monster to write that.
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>>382978075
SJ is a first person dungeon crawler, it's extremely niche in that regard alone. It's also pretty consistently batshit difficult. SMTIV on the other hand is a third person dungeon crawler that is a lot easier to get a grasp on, and not quite as consistently ball busting as SJ. Also the battle system and demon fusion are better. The dungeon design in IV kind of sucks though, but IVA fixed that.
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>>382978574
On the upside, SJ demons don't die in two turns.
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>>382960070
How many games even have maps you have to draw yourself outside of EO and Legend of Grimrock? Assuming you mean draw in game and not on a piece of paper
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>>382959065

That's probably just going to be exactly the same game only with extra stuff? Maybe? It isn't even out in the North America region till sometime in 2018 anyway.
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I actually really like the Samurai outfits in IV. Its a weird mix of east and west and really works.
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>>382977813
WHITED
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Are you hoys ready for the anniversary stream?
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>>382978997
I swapped into black demonica the moment I got it, most stylish SMT outfit.
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>>382979013
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>>382960070
The floor tiles are mapped as you walk on them. Basically the same way anybody who values their time at all plays EO.
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>>382978997
The boots are so sexy. I left all my P5 girls in the SMT4 dlc outfits because of the things they did to my dick.
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>>382967009
This shit right here still pisses me off.
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>>382958849
What why the fuck did I bother buying the 2D one. Goddammit.

Didn't really like it going in though. Soul Hackers is more my bag.
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>>382978997
With the exception of Flynn with his dumb hair all the samurai looks really good, even the sprites one
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Is it actually going to be fun unlike the borefest that is SMTIV?
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>>382979485
Johnathan looks like Brian May.
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>>382979485
>all the samurai looks really good
>Walter's incredibly punchable face
>Isabeau being both extremely unattractive and having a monkey head
>Johnatan's everything

>>382979546
If you like dungeon crawlers and don't want YHVH in your SMT for once, sure.
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>>382979485
>Isabobo the monkey
>Looks good
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>>382979626
>Walter's incredibly punchable face

Hoy, what are you saying!?
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>>382979626
>dissing hoyboy
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Why do people still play SMT main series games when Persona exists?
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>>382979721
She's not a monkey!!!!!!
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>>382979626
>Isabeau
>Unattractive
She's cute.
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>>382980030
Why does she have hairstyle that belongs in 1800s Japan?
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>>382980056
Chimpanzees are cute, doesn't mean I'd fuck one.
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>>382978574
>SJ is a first person dungeon crawler, it's extremely niche in that regard alone. It's also pretty consistently batshit difficult.
I loved the etrian odyssey series, so I will probably enjoy that.
If there aren't any major story reasons to play IV first, I'll probably start with it.
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>>382974548
this is such horrendously bad advice
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>>382975387
>DeSu
>finish SJ
>SMTIV
>some EO games
>mfw stuck at the freezer in DeSu
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>>382980190
The original is basically SMT on EO's engine and even demon coop is pretty much follow up attacks from EO.
It never gets as hard as Eo though.
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>>382958849
Who dat white bitch up top, homy
She ain't in that game.
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>>382980026
Persona's time management bullshit wasn't fun until 5, and even then it's stressful and unnecessary. Not to mention mainline is focused on actual dungeon crawling and a decent battle system, which the Persona games that everyone likes literally did not have. Thank god P5 exists to bridge the gap, I guess.
I hope you're glad you got a real response to your bait shitpost, faggot.
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>>382980026
I like getting back to my gameplay
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>>382980030
>>382965402
we need more isabeau lewds
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>>382980372
Yukiko Amagi
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>>382980026
>SMT
>Constantly shuffling dozens of demons into your party.
>Persona
>You're stuck with the same 5-6 teenagers the entire game.

Pretty simple.
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>>382980190
Most SMT games are relatively self contained. 1 and 2 are a duology and IV and IVA are a duology, but SJ is basically standalone beyond maybe being in the same universe as (and possibly being a pseudo-prequel to) the IV games.
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>>382980026
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>>382960432
SJ's neutral always wins mantra is all consuming,

Chaos sometimes wins too. Like Nocturne, DS1, and DS2 Psyduck end
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>>382980462
She a little thicc, that okay?
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>>382980190
Most of the SMT games are removed from each other as far as plot goes. You can play them in any order, except for playing 4F before 4 I guess. Playing the other games before 4F would help you enjoy a DLC boss fight too, maybe.
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>>382980214
Nocturne sucks dick, get over yourself.
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>>382980539
>DS1
>not going with Amane's law
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>>382980597
whatever you say IV-babby
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>>382962264
It'll probably be a 3DS remake with EO/SJ UI.

No HD 1 and 2 ever
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>>382980557
THICKER
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>>382980471
Is she the Poochy of SMT?
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>>382980608
DeSu 1 has one of the best Law endings in the franchise, but its Chaos ending is still better. Especially since Overclocked let you go Chaos and not be a dick if you wanted.
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>>382980401
She was totally in love with Flynn.
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>>382962482
That was the best part of the game though.
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>>382980536
>Despite claiming not to be waifufags, are extremely willing to stick their dick in hot demon pussy
Cohorting with demons is forbidden regardless of whatever Bonds shit you've consumed. Lawfags only such YHVH cock, and Neutralfags know that demons are tools and wouldn't hesitate to cut you down if they saw weakness. Not even Chaosfags would sink that low.
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>>382980757
Who knows, maybe her part of the plot will be interesting.
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>>382980558
I've only played through Kichijoji in SMT1, and I've appreciated all the callbacks in SMTIV.
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>>382980785
No, she totally wanted Flynn to be in love with Jonathan and Walter.
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>>382980826
>Not even Chaosfags would sink that low

Chaosfags fuse themselves with demons, what the fuck are you talking about? Chaosfags are the biggest demon pussy fiends around.
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>>382980784
>but its Chaos ending is still better
I siagree, for the most part, Naoya's route is just playing in his fucktarded and butthurt plan and he does nothing with it.
Law offers the best possible ending for pretty much everyone, including Naoya, and its last bosss is simply more challenging than bitchslapping Metatron for the nth time. It's just boring at this point.
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>>382980717
Commit suicide, saucy.
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>>382960376
>That Jack Frost
lmao
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>>382980030
Maras out for Isabobo.

I dunno why I even want to remember that one dead meme
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>>382981037
how you want that done pham
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>>382975128
At best it's gonna look like P5.
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>>382980557
BESTAROO
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>>382961427
Is that press turn, I see?
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>>382981543
No, just search demon.
I hope they revamp a bit the demon system and add something to make doomguy usable for mem aleph.
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>>382980026
Because I like both.
Your move, falseflagger.
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>>382981625
>he didn't moan bullet her to death
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Is this coming out before 2018?
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>>382964963
There's only one expansion, Resurrection of Evil, and it's damn great.
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>>382961705
The early parts try too hard to be spoopy. The action is still decent though and once you get to hell, it lightens up and becomes much more chaotic fun.

The biggest shame is that you don't kill the cyberdemon by shooting it until it dies.
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>>382981776
Every other demon was hitting jihad and that makes him busy with heals/resummoning.
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>>382981791
early 2018 in the US
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>>382981851
>The biggest shame is that you don't kill the cyberdemon by shooting it until it dies.
Are you sure about this? I don't quite remember how you kill him in the end, but the fight is just shooting it.
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what does mem aleph mean? ma?
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>>382980026
Because P2's gameplay is snore-inducing, and P3 and P4's time management aspects just make the game feel like a drag and both have shitty dungeons, only P1 and P5 are ultimately enjoyable experiences. Not that mainline SMT games don't have their issues, either.
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>>382981987
Don't you have to use that weird soul cube thing?
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>>382981987

Doom 3's Cyberdemon fight was just you killing other demon's that spawn in to charge up the Soul Cube and use it on the Cyberdemon a few times, all the while avoiding him trying to stomp or missile you.
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>>382980557
absolutely
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>>382978829
Either way is fine. It's just the style I'm used to in dungeon crawlers, when it's made for you it feels less like you're exploring.
>>382979142
Fair enough for 3DS players, although I do love wall drawing and making annotations.
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>>382961813
not to dredge this shit discussion up but I wouldn't say I'm "making a map" while playing Etrian Odyssey, I'd say I'm "filling the map in." I'd say "premade map" refers to a non-procedurally generated/customized/randomized one
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>>382979142
>implying half the fun of EO isn't drawing out the map
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>>382983040
I suppose that could work, but the term is very ambiguous and I clarified what I meant. Premade can still be used even if other terms fit what I meant better.
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>>382983706
that's fine just don't say it again
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>>382983706
no it can't, it is misleading and your terminology is SHIT
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>>382983841
you can't tell me what to do dad
>>382983859
No, it works within the context of the sentence.
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