what went wrong

your mother's abortion

Story was fucking trash and all of the characters suck

boring gameplay

>>382955192
Everything following Makoto's introduction.

>>382955192
Final boss theme.

Also >>382955560, everything after Madarame was a downward spiral because the targets were so disconnected from the characters and as a result the player. Also Makoto completely ruins the group dynamic previously established.

>>382955192
Atlus thinks the Persona audience is retarded and can't stand any form of complexity/depth, in the gameplay OR story. They might be right but it was still annoying.

>>382955192
Not much

new thread >>382955903

Aren't you tired? Why don't you go to sleep.

>>382955192
I can't stop making custom personas. I just wanted to make a megidaloan Arsene and now I've got like 12 minmaxed personas. Help me.

>>382955782
fucking this, makoto was a mistake.

>>382955192
Main plot sucks. Party dynamics kinda suck.

The other two games were the same though so it's ok.

>>382956142
But 3 had a great main plot and 4 had an interesting group dynamic.

It's not okay.

>>382955192
one of the most beautifully stylized games on the planet.

unfortunately it was all wasted on a generic jrpg with shit characters and a shit story

>>382956269
>But 3 had a great main plot
It had a great ending, most of the main plot was even more snoozeworthy then 4 and 5

>4 had an interesting group dynamic.
It was ok, definitely better then 5 and 3 I'll give you that.

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>>382955192
Nothing, it's critically acclaimed game that deserves every praise it can get. Story, gameplay, soundtrack, and art direction are the best from all the other persona out there.

Hell even other personafags beg that they have P5 engine on their game all the time. It's that good.

Weak story, no chemistry between characters, Tokyo felt really lifeless and devoid of atmosphere
Fusing Personas and doing Palaces was the best part of the game but if I wanted to do that I'd be playins a real sheer megumi tennis instead of Persona.
I feel like if P5 was my first Persona game, I wouldn't get into the series at all and ended up forgetting about it in few weeks.

>>382956534
3 had a good plot overall, just abysmal pacing for most of it.

>>382955192

Just curious, is there some crazy plot twist like Persona 4?

Adachi

>>382956625
>Tokyo felt really lifeless and devoid of atmosphere
This is still the single most retarded thing that anyone can say about P5. More retarded than the people that say that Goro's end game was actually the revenge.

>>382956636
No, it had a good ending everything else ranges from bad (villains) to ok (character development) all held back by the mercy of the worst paced plot I've ever had the displeasure of slogging through.

>>382956813
Yeah, no. The fast travel totally killed it. LeBlanc was comfy as fuck but other than that Tokyo was simply boring.

>>382956661
The first plot twist is pretty obvious. The second plot twist which happens almost at the end of the game, the game gives you almost zero clues about it and its almost impossible to guess.

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>>382956948
>He didn't like revolver jesus

>>382955192
weeb garbage enjoyed by subhumans

>>382955192
It's otaku pandering trash.

>>382955192
Dungeons were too easy so you finished them in one night and spent 20-30 ingame days just doing the stupid social bullshit.

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>>382957065
Oh, you're back.

>>382957065
say a game's atmosphere is bad because of fast travel is like saying a game's story is bad because you can skip cutscenes

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>Get told that the penultimate boss is Japanese Senator Armstrong
>Get le generic evil politician instead

Why did /v/ lie to me?

>>382956661
There is but people misunderstand one of them

>>382957086
The first one isn't the traitor, it's that your party knew about him

>>382955192
Social Links still suck and have only gotten slightly better.

>>382955782
this might explain why I stopped after makoto dungeon

>>382957413
Tokyo's, not game's.
Felt, not is.
The problem is that in a 100 hours long game using fast travel is much more convinient. You are going to use it far more often than actually walk to every location. As a result the place itself will feel boring.
Not to mention that NPCs this time around were legit trash and there were only few of them, giving you even less reason not to skip straight to the place you wanted to go.

>>382957572
Depends, have you fight him yet?
Because it'll clicked.

>>382958340
He referred to him as the 'penultimate boss' so he's probably not even past Madarame's.

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Doesn't feel like a Persona game in any shape or form. Might as well be a spinoff of a spinoff series.
>note: spinoff =/= bad, just wasn't my cup of tea

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>>382958330
You miss so much by doing that, tho. Seeing how the public opinion changes overtime in Tokyo, and seeing the contrast between RL and the messageboard was pretty neat.

You also see other cool stuff, like that Madarame pupil that was literally living on the streets.

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>>382955192
Certainly not the girls.

>>382956625
only characters I can really say had some chemistry were Ann and Ryuji. It's bullshit that they don't date

>>382958330
>Inoue was trash
>the little girl and her dog were trash
>the two college students with constantly conflicting views the whole game that replace Yuki at the end if you don't max him were trash
>Not-Soejima at Leblanc was trash
>P5's stalker girl who had her own sidequest this time was trash

I can only imagine that you were disappointed by the lack of any meme loving fucks like funky student and decided to ignore everything else out of spite.

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>>382958562
It honestly felt closer to DeSu than Persona. Which is perfect.

>>382955192
How to spoiler text?

>>382958735
>Posts worst girl
What did he mean by this?

The characters really lacked moments where they could interact with each other

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>>382958882
But I posted the best girl.

>>382955192
STOP MAKING PERSONA WITH REPEL PHYS AND REPEL GUN OR NULL PHYS AND NULL GUN

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>>382958882
Let's not do this today anon

Everything about Akechi post-Casino

Refusing the break the mold with making that god tier Shido fight the finale (Or making it Akechi) and instead making it that boring as fuck generic big god fight that had garbage music

Everything about Makoto and Futaba, Ryuji being a punching bag, Yusuke being trashed for the former two despite him being the best party member

>>382955560
>implying the Pyramid was GOAT

>>382958438

I'm on the final boss now.

I expected Shido to come right out with a "COGNITION, SON" spiel but in the end he was just boring and spoke in elitist platitudes.

>>382955560
>>382955782
>>382956137
>>382957959
If literally one character was able to ruin the game for you then the game was not meant for you

>>382955192
>Negotiations can only take place after every enemy is downed
>Everyone becoming braindead after Makoto joins
>only good dungeons are the Castle and a few sections of the Pyramid
>In fact, the plot goes on a downward spiral during and after the bank, picking up slightly at the pyramid only to nosedive after it
>The long sequence after the Casino of nothing but plot, topped with Akechi and Bald Char discussing things that happened in the past and explaining their reasons to each other for no reason
>How did Akechi even leave the cognitive universe when the ruse took place?
>The last """"""""dungeon""""""""""
>Ending was so rushed it's baffling
>That pathetic excuse for a last boss that is Yaldabaoth
I liked the game and it's superior to its predecessors, but it had a lot of flaws

>>382960590
you're not necessarily wrong

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>>382960635
>Everyone becoming braindead
Are you saying Ryuji and Ann had brains to begin with?

sae is bae
that is all

>>382960812
They used to and Ryuji seems to still have it in his Confidant, while Ann somehow has even less of it in hers

>>382960971
>Ryuji is a totally different character in his Confidant
Why is this allowed?

>>382960812
I'm saying they were more active in the scheme of things instead of letting Miss Perfect take care of absolutely everything
The heist for Madarame's treasure was GOAT and the only good part of that dungeon, everyone played a role in that, but after Makoto Ryuji's role is to be a jerk to Sleep Schedule Siamese and Ann was barely even there

>>382960971
Character are inconsistent with their SL is not a new problem in the persona games.
Also Ann the airhead and Ryuji the "BOY I SURE LOVE BEING A PART OF THE PHANTOM THIEVES" were the same all game long

>>382961126
Makoto actually made the group more serious than it was. the group "dynamic" was just 4 autists with their cat running around dungeons. but after Makoto things got a little bit serious
Even then Makoto got pushed over once Futaba joined.

>>382961853
>Makoto actually made the group more serious than it was.
Well, she certainly didn't take planning all that serious. Their plans were
>walk in
>take treasure
>walk out
and not once did they actually pull it off without getting into a fight and then barely escaping the collapsing palace.

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>>382955192
not enough scenes that could live up to pic related

>>382962641
This is the writers fault, after she joins she asks the group what was their plans and she was kinda shocked that their plan was walk in and raise hell but then they didn't bring the planing up again.

What I meant, is that she tells then not to stand out, take care of their grades and keep things down, because if makoto was able to find out about them easily then the police can too.

>>382962918
damn...

>>382962918
this
while in Persona 5 it feels like a scene like this would be an absolute no-no for some reason. that and the fact that I really didn't want to fuck any of the main cast this time around, a lot of them felt overly flashy and tryhard "unique"

>>382955192
The game insults your intelligence at every turn.

>>382955192
first villain is by far the best villain
all the other bad guys are just cartoon villains.
Endless amounts of bad writting.

The game peeked 5 hours in, everything after that felt very unfinished by comparison.

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>>382963805
Elaborate.

>>382958842
why do all the characters in this series have ballistic missle tits?

>>382958562
Nah, it still had the awful pacing that the series is now known for

>>382955192
boring dialogue and tons of it
boring story
boring characters
20 hours to get going, you pretty much are taken off the leash after may, an entire month and a half
texting, this ties in to terrible dialogue
meh music

its really a 5/10 for me, no hyperbole. major fucking disappointment