What went wrong?

Mannconomy update being a success ruined the entire company

>>382950795
not enough big booty alyx vance porn

Gay Ben wants more Porsches

>>382950795
>No Half-Life 3
>No Portal 3
>No Half-Life/Portal crossover game
>No Opposing Force 2

>>382950795
Well seems like the letter E here has the wrong font size. That's what you get for making the box before fitting the text. Heh, stupid

too much money

also, no generational reset to punish mistakes. if sony fucks up the ps3, it doesn't sell well and they have to try to fix things/make up for it next gen. if valve makes a mistake (paid mods), people can't just uninstall steam

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>yfw you realized hl3 will never release
Its been almost 10 years since episode 2.

open offices

>>382950795
They learned from the Jews the power of the middle man: Let everyone else do the work.

steam community market

>>382952034
>too much money


This and they have this retarded philosophy that hiring talented people, and letting them fuck off all day will somehow result in innovation. In reality its similar to communism in that if you take away motivation then people will just jerk off all day which is what valve does. They don't care about their art.

I don't think anything went wrong except them killing TF2 with the meet your match update, I think Valve is just being patient and they've been known to only release games when the technology has been right, it's almost like people forget TF2 took 9 fucking years in development. I think left 4 dead 3 will be next since that is a big franchise for them and the biggest franchise they have on the console market plus a good tech showcase since left 4 dead has always been more casual party kinda game.
Half life 3 will be soon the source 2 data mines showing slight shit is anything to go off of, I'd put money on it being shown in 3 years or less.

>>382953112
yeah because all the writers leaving definitely means they plan on releasing half life 3 soon

>>382950795
Glorifying gaben as some sort of idol and getting too much money, why the fuck would they make games when they have literal cash cows on top of steam itself ?

I really hope their big next release, whatever it is, isn't VR only.

Greed.

>>382950795
hats, crates, keys, and DIGITAL SPORTS

money

>>382953380
their reputation definitely didn't help. anyone criticizing them a couple of years ago just got dogpiled. things only started to change after paid mods, and there are still enough people defending their bs

>>382953268
Senior guys aging out of the day to day operations of a company doesn't really mean much.

Valve has been hiring people like crazy for the technology side of the business, particularly in the Linux space where you can conveniently watch the development of the projects they're contributing to.

All that work on the infrastructure is only happening because Valve are working on games and want people to be able to run them.

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trading cards

>>382954291
multiplayer games and linux optimization

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Steam is still growing like crazy. So can you really say anything has gone wrong yet?

About the only thing that can go wrong at this point is Microsoft shutting down Valve's access to Windows users with the store lock now included (but inactive) on every copy of Windows 10. Which would really hurt Valve, they'd be bumped down to just the Linux users, or about 250k daily users, but may not be enough to kill them.

>>382954883
microsoft will only trigger the trojan if they get enough developers to switch to the windows 10 app store or whatever its current iteration is called. valve isn't retarded though, and they have a lot of money to fight back. no one has managed to make gaming on linux work, but with the amount of money valve has, they can probably fork linux ala android and make a very controlled distro to get enough support from publishers, developers and nvidia/amd

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Bethesda problem of letting the community making shit
They learned to love money and it didn't motivate them to create or continue developing singleplayer experiences because the community enabled them

>>382955170
>microsoft will only trigger the trojan if they get enough developers to switch to the windows 10 app store
They've already committed to releasing a version of Windows free to OEMs that will be locked to the Windows Store. Even without turning the lock on for existing users, at least users outside of China and other markets that are 100% pirates, free copies for OEMs will ensure that's the majority of new Windows systems in just a few years time.

>they can probably fork linux ala android
Valve have already done this with SteamOS, though that's not the kind of fork you imply.
Even with Android, Google have actually been moving back more towards traditional GNU/Linux with Android/Linux now supporting upstream Mesa based graphics drivers, and ChromeOS (their Gentoo based distribution) now having the ability to run Android apps within Wayland (the next-gen Linux display server that is replacing X11).

Giving how much work Valve has been doing on the AMD graphics stack in particular the rumors that Valve was commissioning a custom Ryzen/Vega SOC for a second-generation of Steam Machines seems plausible.

>>382950795
I'm not completely sure. I suspect that their corporate structure (or lack thereof), which allegedly lends itself extremely easily to a highschool-tier social groups and atmosphere, really hurts the quality of their games, or more accurately, of the post-release continuous development. I feel that on release most Valve games are good, but they inevitably go to shit.

That same corporate structure also probably empowers the predominant design philosophies over there, which seem to be very safe and undemanding of the player. This is not a good thing when applied to games that did not initially follow those philosophies.

After Steam rose to provide essentially infinite cash and esteem/relevancy, they re-examined their situation and came to see themselves as 'the industry leader'. They shifted focus to extremely high-level long-term projects like virtual reality, Linux gaming, open standards, etc., in the processes somewhat neglecting their traditional business of more direct consumer-level engagement through individual software products. They didn't abandon it outright, they just stopped being so concerned with actually getting games shipped, which had the unfortunate side effect of leading to a lot of shit never working out at all (because the truth is, shit only happens under pressure). Eg. Stars of Blood, Half-Life 3, Left4Dead 3, DOTA2, TF2 Moonbase, etc., basically every new game software venture they've started just sort of petered out without ever producing an actual deliverable, because there's just no NEED to do so.

tl;dr - A group of neurotic perfectionists found themselves with infinite resources and no pressure to actually deliver anything.

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>>382950795

>>382950795
you gave them too much money

>>382950795
Gay Ben the fat jew realize he could make more money for less work by selling other people's work than making his own content.

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>>382953627
Came here to post exactly this.
That fat fuck has got money to last him several lives, but he always wants more.

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>>382956191
The other side of the coin is with Microsoft poised to slam the door on third party software stores for Windows, does it make sense for Valve to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a short term big budget AAA game development cycle right now.
Long term projects like their Linux initiative may take longer to deliver, but Gabe's declaration that HL3 will happen when GNU/Linux hits 3%, or about a million active daily players is probably a pretty safe benchmark for the threshold of what makes AAA game development possible.

>>382950795
Greed... is bad
Greed doesnt work

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>>382950795
TF2 hats. The company makes a fuckton of money selling hats and not making games anymore.

>>382952034
>no generational reset to punish mistakes
This has never happened in PC gaming, it's a blessing and a curse

>>382956839
>when GNU/Linux hits 3%
So never?

>>382957005
Lol, I would say that MS wouldn't be that retarded, but the Xbox X does exist soooo.

>>382957005
If you haven't switched yet, HL3 development is waiting on you.
Every time you complain about Valve not making games anymore, remember that its in part your fault and there is something you can do about it.

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>>382950795

It all started when they aborted the original concepts for Team Fortress 2 and turned into whatever the fuck it actually came out as... I don't know what the fuck happened but I was so hyped. It was going to be more Opposing Force than TFC but I guess the entire studio collectively started snorting ketamine or something.

>>382957194
>using linux
>ever
Kill yourself.

>>382957271
Nah, classic TF was pretty shit and generic.

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Glad to see the lack of hate against Dota 2 in here. I'm pretty sure the team behind that game are the only people still actually working over in that dumpster. It's probably Icefrog and like 4 other people.

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>>382957312
Windows only advantage has been its library of software and the fact that games have been produced optimized for its extremely non-standard code-paths.
However, with cross-platform low level APIs now allowing for more direct apples to apples comparisons Linux's advantages going forward are becoming more clear.

>>382952664
>they have this retarded philosophy that hiring talented people, and letting them fuck off all day will somehow result in innovation
This. It works when you're a small team with a consistent company culture and set of goals. It doesn't work when you're a corporation. They need to separate Dota/TF2/ect. people into their separate teams and then create a division solely for making new games. No one is going to want to put in the legwork to start something new when there's no incentive.

Also they need to hire some fucking customer support.

>>382957079
his smile vanishes as time goes on

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>>382957743
>b-but this will be the year of linux, just look at this graph I made up
Seriously man, just end your life.

>>382957743
there is no incentive for optimizing linux games if the userbase isn't there. so if microsoft doesn't pull the killswitch or threaten valve, it won't happen. linux drivers are also garbage

but, microsoft is dumb and they're trying to push that capped win10 to force the store on people. so, it might eventually happen. games are the only thing really keep windows alive at this point

>>382957743
>Linux's advantages going forward are becoming more clear.


Maybe in 10 years, but it still won't matter if MS doesn't try to block Steam. They might catch legal heat if they tried that anyway. And the normies will never mess with linux. Most people don't know what an operating system even is.

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>>382958007
>Thinking that developers no longer facing the D3D->OpenGL performance tax won't affect game support on non-Windows platforms

>>382958145
>Most people don't know what an operating system even is.
Exactly, which is why Valve's strategy will work.

How many people have a Raspberry Pi based retro system?
How many people have Android phones they play games on?
How many of those people know or care that they're Linux gamers?

With Linux Valve could release a little cheap Steam Machine called the Orange Box with a bunch of pre-loaded games for all the disappointed holiday shoppers who can't get the SNES Mini.

>>382958119
DirectX 12 -> one version of one OS
Vulkan -> every current Windows OS, plus every current Linux OS desktop and mobile

Does that seem like reason enough for games to use Vulkan?

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>>382958295
Stay delusional.

>>382957713
I used to think (well, hope) that some of Dota 2's design philosophies would bleed into their other games. Now I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Either that or Icefrog was "overthrown" as the head of the Dota 2 dev team.

>>382958145
people will use linux, if they can break away from the "core" demographic. regular people just use a browser anyway. the problem is the gamer demographic that doesn't really know how to use a computer, but thinks they do (unlike real sysadmins or programmers or whatnot)

but like i said before, valve needs full commitment to it, not this halfassed shit they've done so far. they need better drivers as well. it will happen if microsoft tries to force the windows store with capped windows 10. but only if they do it. and trying to sneak it in will probably not work either

>>382958728
it doesn't, because the games that will really benefit are desktop games. and if they're 98% of the market on windows, it won't happen

android games will never be more than what they currently are. the lack of buttons, the usage (quick games while people wait for others etc) and so on.

>>382958541
I think Valve could've had way more success by making one steam box, and having them in stores. But it still wouldn't be viable for years, and even then the interface needs to be retard simple, and have a lot more games available. This idea that they can make a Windows competitor is stupid. Normies will never use linux unless it comes in some unique package that captures people's hearts. They can't view it like they view something like a desktop pc with windows.

>>382950795
Christ, I wish they would just sell their game IPs to other developers at this point.
It's obvious they don't care about games anymore, they just want to focus on their PC platform monopoly.

>>382951348
If the end of Episode 2 is to something to go off of, Portal will be involved due to Borealis

>>382950901

It's depressing how it really can all be traced back to a single update in one of their games. That was the seed of destruction.

>>382958769
The same company that ported Shadow of Mordor ported Mad Max. Mad Max uses the latest version of their software and all their games have been getting updates that have consistently improved performance as the non-standard D3D code paths have been getting replaced.

Plus those benchmarks were conducted several years ago by Ars Technica using hardware that was technically not even supported by SteamOS at the time.

>>382959338
Wasn't the Spy vs Sniper update the original introduction of hats into the game?

I think witnessing how obsessed people got over shitty cosmetics is what started it all.

>>382950795
same thing that happened to blizzard. blizzard found their holy cash cow through monthly subscription fees, valve found theirs through micro transactions. success kills.

>>382959071
>But it still wouldn't be viable for years,
>have a lot more games available.
GNU/Linux has been picking up games at a pretty brisk pace the last few years. It actually has a much larger library of games than the current-gen consoles by a pretty substantial margin.

>and even then the interface needs to be retard simple
How much simpler does it need to be? Microsoft has been copying GNU/Linux desktops features for a while now, they even turned Windows into GNU/NT adding in Bash and the GNU utilities to stay competitive.

SteamOS's big picture mode works really well if you want a set top box. Adding in retroarch just makes it even better.

>>382957079
2012 Gaben is by far the best looking Gaben.

>>382960216
>How much simpler does it need to be?
Not a desktop, just make an interface that can play games and run a few apps, like the consoles have. Plus bringing a new brand into the console market will be tough even with all those games. Its never going to be some in between desktop and console thing. That will never work. Plus that controller is terrible.

>>382950795
They became too successful.
They're not pressured
They haven't made a new game in years

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the got too big

>>382958007
Posting a cringy anime picture with your shitpost doesn't make it an argument, dumb cartoon poster.

>>382960786

i am an egg

Still the best gaming company in the history of the world. Only people who don't appreciate them are console babies, blizz drones, or pirate fags who's POVs are not worth anything.

>>382950795
People falling for their PR and praising them for 15 years as the company that can do no wrong. I would literally treat everything Valve have ever said with suspicion because they lie so much.

When they said their working environment is free-form and relaxed, that was probably just more PR lies that people accepted unquestioningly.

>>382960521
Its as if Valve believes that because these games are PC games that people won't want the system unless if can do all that a PC can do. People don't give a fuck. The PS4 should do all kinds of stuff that it could potentially do (accept any mouse/kb, have ps1/2 emulators), but the customers don't care. They just want the latest thing that was like the thing they had before but a bit better.

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jews realized that raping your community for everything they're worth is a lot easier than making games

>>382961554

I'm jealous of the people who can go out with real people and meme this hard

>>382960521
Look at how successful Nintendo's mini consoles have been despite being essentially just Linux systems with an emulator and a few games.

Valve already have a console style interface with Big Picture, and of course like Nintendo they already have a Linux based OS with a bunch of games compatible.

>Plus that controller is terrible.
Opinion invalid. Steam controller is the best gamepad for FPS games and camera control ever produced.

>>382953956
I used to be a huge Valve shill years ago. CS:S, HL2 and its sequels, TF2 and Portal (especially 2) were some of my favorite games ever when I was younger. I get nostaglic just thinking about them.

Then they just stopped doing shit. There is absolutely no reason to be a Valve fan anymore.

>>382961779

>Your opinion is wrong because mine is right

you can go fuck yourself with the biggest dildo, you dildo

>>382961779
Its not a problem with it being linux. Its a problem of them trying to market to people that already have nice pc's rather than just making a console. And you may like that controller, you, and only you. It doesn't matter what works well or seems to make sense. It matters what the average person will put money down. And a steam machine aint it.

>>382961820
yep, someone let the genie out. it's over. valve has changed and i'm starting to doubt they can ever go back to their past greatness.

>>382950795
The same shit no one will believe that I've been saying for years

Honestly it took you fucking retards 7 years to realize that valve is a bunch of Jews and even now you're making excuses. Gay Ben was shit from the start

>>382950901
This. A single update ruined the entire industry

HL1 on hard>HL2

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>>382962023
Its all a matter of marketing, an Xbox is just a Windows 10 machine with netbook class hardware that can only run software from the Windows Store or special locked down discs.
An NES mini is just a Linux consoles with hardware worse than a Raspberry Pi in a fancy case with non-standard controllers.

Valve's challenge is to make people see the product instead of seeing just another PC.

>>382961881
Its not just me, we've had nearly daily threads here about how good it is and how to best use it.
Takes some getting used to but its better for modern games than any previous gamepad.

Especially on GNU/Linux where additional utilities for it exists.

>>382950795
reddit company

>>382962604

>Your opinion doesn't matter because we say so

It's not any better you stupid fuck. I personally find it atrocious and have an easier time aiming with thumbsticks. I prefer Gyro aiming above both however.

>>382962827
>I prefer Gyro aiming above both however.
You do know that the Steam Controller has gyro as well right?

The trackpads, grip buttons, final click triggers, and the gyro all add up with the configuration capabilities and the price to make it the best controller around.

>>382964125

Does it? I don't care. It's overpriced for what it is, requires a learning curve that I don't have the time nor desire to adapt to, and fills a niche that doesn't need filling except for maybe a few thousand. I play FPS and RTS with KB+M, and everything else with a traditional controller.

It's failure is proof that it has no place.

>>382964406
>overpriced
Its basically the cheapest wireless controller you can get for $35 which it is constantly.

>requires a learning curve
As does every new superior control scheme. We didn't start out with mouse aiming, or analog sticks and nobody was born knowing how to use them.

Basically you're complaining that Valve innovated and did something better. If you don't like it you can use a PS4 pad with SteamOS or Big Picture mode, but you'll be guaranteed to lose to people using GabePads or Mouse and Keyboard.

>>382964813

According to sales Valve hasn't done anything really innovative, at least not something that deserves attention. You'll find far more complaints about the controller than you will find enthusiasts, and that's a fact.

>>382964937
>According to sales Valve hasn't done anything really innovative
>Innovation only counts if it sells

Doesn't work like that.

>>382965692

Then let's rephrase. Innovation only matters if it sells. Sales are an indication of how many people are adopting your idea, and since very few have purchased, let alone stuck with, the controller we can safely say that the innovation isn't something that's worthwhile.

>>382965915
Except every indication is that the Steam Controller is selling well for an optional accessory, and people are using it and developing additional tools for it.

If you want to see its impact on the industry, Nintendo's 'HD Rumble' uses the same sort of technology as the Steam Controller's haptic feedback.

>>382966205

So it's impact is a gimmick. It's a niche controller that will never be anything more than that. There are always enthusiasts for niche products, and saying people are developing tools for it means nothing. You can enjoy it all you like, just don't say others opinions are invalid because you say so.

>>382966602
>I am the final arbiter of what is a gimmick or a niche

That's fine, the rest of the world will continue to innovate and move on. You really have nothing to worry about, people still play games on Amigas and high quality SNES controllers are still produced.

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We gave them money for games on Steam instead of just rejecting Steam as a service, like we should have.

Remember the days when everyone was against Steam? When people were pissed that they had to install it to play Half Life 2? Those were the days...

Just think, if Steam wasn't a massive success, we'd have more quality games by Valve. Now, our best bet is for some other service to replace it (good luck).

>>382966867

You're retarded. Steam controller is a niche controller no matter how you slice it. It's reached maybe a million sales, with a user base of over 100 million. At best it has an adopt rate of 1%. If you're still going to argue that it isn't a niche then you have no business speaking anymore.

And yes, HD rumble is a gimmick. It will be used for a few things in a couple games and forgotten, just like all Nintendo gimmicks. Haptic feedback may not be a gimmick for Steam controller, but we're talking about it's impact on the industry, and it's impact is a gimmick.

>>382950795
They stopped making video games and instead focused on hats.

>>382952417
If I'm not mistaken, next year, Episode 2 will be older than HL1 when Episode 2 came out.

HL3 is long gone, and anyone thinking otherwise is a delusional VNN-like retard.

>>382967174
>things never grow out of niches

Every new thing has to start somewhere.

>It's reached maybe a million sales,

At the last numbers we knew it had already passed that, I imagine they've sold quite a few more during the latest sale that just ended.
Those kind of numbers are rather massive for a totally optional accessory in a crowded market.

>>382967749
People still think HL3 is coming? Gabe basically said in his last AMA that it's never happening.

>>382964937
>According to sales Valve hasn't done anything really innovative, at least not something that deserves attention.
Turns out people won't change their habits, even for superior ones, unless you force them to. Who knew!

>>382967790

So at best it's sitting at 2 million sales. It's still a niche you retard. Its also been nearly two years since its release. That's horrendous sales considering the potential customer base. You cannot argue that it will grow out of a niche, not with its current record.

Also, every market analyst would disagree that 2 million sales is good.

>>382968087
The fundamental thing you don't understand is you see the potential market as 'all Steam users' when the actual potential market is people who are playing PC games on PCs hooked up to TVs, want to buy a gamepad, and are willing to try new things.

Within that market space the Steam Controller has had very good uptake.

>>382969664

So within a niche market it did well. It's still a niche product filling a niche you dumb motherfucker.

>>382969768
The whole PC gaming market is a niche market.
Niche markets can be fine and very profitable.

Ferraris are niche products and extremely good at doing what they're made for, but according to you only the Toyota Corolla matters because its not a niche.

>>382954291
>Valve has been hiring people like crazy for the technology side of the business, particularly in the Linux space where you can conveniently watch the development of the projects they're contributing to.
No one gives a shit about Linux gaming, not even people who use Linux. Valve is just throwing money away in a vain attempt to fight Microsoft. While I see why they're doing it, it's not working at all.

>>382970261

PC gaming is not a niche market, and the fact that you're attempting to claim that is probably the stupidest thing you've said so far. When your market is pulling in billions of dollars in revenue, you cannot claim it's niche anymore.

What is your point here? Steam controller isn't profitable, the RnD costs have not been even close to offset by sales and Valve has basically given up on it.

And to get back to the central point, don't dismiss others opinions on the basis of "my opinion is better because I like this product" because that's fucking retarded.

>>382951348
>not mentioning dota 3
does /v/ even play games?

>>382970261
>The whole PC gaming market is a niche market.


the whole PC market is worth more than twice the entire console market (all consoles for every brand)

what kind of mental retardation do you have to claim that's "niche"?

>>382970659
>PC gaming is not a niche market
The whole traditional PC market is a niche at this point. Its fallen well behind new device types and no longer represents even close to the majority of computing devices.

This is why Microsoft has been flailing around trying to make Windows into a mobile OS, and why Valve have been working on getting Linux up to speed so they can migrate to post-Windows device categories.

>When your market is pulling in billions of dollars in revenue, you cannot claim it's niche anymore.
RedHat, a single Linux-centric company measures its revenue in billions of dollars a year. Does that mean that Linux isn't a niche?

>What is your point here? Steam controller isn't profitable, the RnD costs have not been even close to offset by sales and Valve has basically given up on it.
I've seen no evidence of this. Valve continues to sell the gamepad, and continues to develop the software for it. Gamepad hardware generally doesn't get huge revisions quickly.

>And to get back to the central point, don't dismiss others opinions on the basis of "my opinion is better because I like this product" because that's fucking retarded.
Except you're doing the exact opposite declaring that you're correct with nothing but your opinion that anything new isn't good.

>>382950795
Basically if you want a new game from you'd have to be a modder who already made a game that Valve can buy from you and claim that they were the ones to make it.

>>382971315

PC gaming is not a niche no matter how you try to twist it. Again, when you're pulling in billions in revenue your market is no longer niche. And yes, Linux as a whole is not a niche market. Linux as a gaming platform is still niche however.

Valve is continuing to sell the hardware because they can. It did not live up to any expectations, therefore it is a failure. This is fact, and you cannot deny it.

I'm not dismissing your opinion you illiterate retard, I'm telling you not to dismiss others because you like the product that they don't. I have already said you can have whatever opinion you want, but in your blind fervor you seem to have forgotten that.

>>382971460
Well that is how it works. If they hire you, you sign a contract, you're then an employee of the company and the work done can be attributed to the company.

>>382967749
>If I'm not mistaken, next year, Episode 2 will be older than HL1 when Episode 2 came out.
Anon...
That already happened

>>382971767
So all these people who want HL3 and TF3 and whatever just need to go ahead and make it themselves.

>>382950795
they learned they could make more by doing less.

>>382971718
Your only argument seems to be using childish insults.

If a product makes money, and stays on the market its not a failure no matter how much you don't like that its still around.

You are after all the one who declared that it wasn't any good at the start and without even being aware of its basic features.

>Again, when you're pulling in billions in revenue
You act like that's a big deal these days. Individual people have billions of dollars. PC gaming, especially home built enthusiast gaming PCs are a niche market within the much larger gaming industry.

That's ok though, not every product has to be aimed at bringing in the most money from the largest audience by appealing to the lowest common denominator.

>>382972332
>>Games for PC pulling in billions of dollars means they're still a niche because there's a few billionaires around.

This is retarded.

they wont let us customize our steam profiles more or change our cringey usernames from many years ago.. ffs and their client is shit

They got that sweet "sit-on-your-ass" money.

It's what'll happen to CDprojektRed in like 2 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkhX5W7JoWI

>>382972332

You don't have an argument in the first place. You've stated things like they are facts when a quick google search will prove you wrong. And yes, a product can still be considered a failure and stay on the market. Case in point, the WiiU and Steambox.

You can like the steam controller as much as you want, but I have no idea why you're trying to desperately to prove it isn't a niche product. You yourself are saying that it's okay for a niche product to be niche and are now in opposition to your last few posts where you have been vehemently against my claims of it being niche, as if it makes it lesser somehow.

I gave my opinion about it, and I still hold that opinion. I don't like the steam controller. It has features I will never use and fills a purpose I have no need of.

>>382967749
The whole modern warfare meme happened after Episode 2, that's how long it's been.

>>382972498
>retarded
You keep using that word, as if its supposed to have some kind of impact.

>>382972839

It's because your claim that because some people have more than a billion dollars it somehow makes a market that pulls in billions of dollars unremarkable and niche. Your logic is retarded, there is no other way to look at it.

>>382950795
community hats

Hl3 isn't released yet because Valve is Carmack levels of autism in terms of obsession over new technology. They want to incorporate it with up to date graphics and vr and shit

>>382972663
>It's what'll happen to CDprojektRed in like 2 years

Impossible. How the fuck would they get passive money like Valve does?

>>382972798
>Steambox.
Steam Machines aren't a single traditional product, they're just PCs running a specific OS. They'll be on the market as long as people are interested in them.

>I have no idea why you're trying to desperately to prove it isn't a niche product.
When did I do that, I don't care that its a niche product. That doesn't make a difference as to whether its good or not.

Filling a niche well can be just as good or better than being all things to all people.

>>382973140

Okay. Now that we agree on something, we can now both agree that dismissing somebodies opinion because they don't like what you like is stupid and pointless right?

>>382973096

Don't they run GoG? I might be drunk but if they do it means they're going to become lazier than I am to google it. Which is really lazy.

>>382973393

If GoG were at all similar to Steam then they would require some kind of client in order to run their games. As it stands, it's simply a place to get games, sometimes for cheap. They won't be going the way of Valve as long as they keep going in the direction they are.

>>382967174
Nigga it's fucking impossible to find that controller in the vast majority of the world.

>>382974384

Did you mean to quote someone else or do you just have reading comprehension issues?

>>382974472
Shut the fuck up you retarded nigger tranny faggot. Did I talk to you?

>>382974610

Well, you quoted my post so yeah. It's okay that you cain't reed so gud, but I suggest taking some ESL classes before posting again.

>>382950795
monopolized pc sales market while dumb redditors licked their ass and blew hundreds of dollars on virtual knives.

>>382967749
>>382968008
I feel like his response in the last ama kind of confirmed it.

He confirmed that games centered around single player campaigns are being made, and when somebody said a source claimed HL3 was cancelled he said sarcastically "yea that's true, I believe everything I read on the internet too"

I'm paraphrasing there.

They're really just waiting for VR to get cheap enough for mass consumption, and HL3 and Portal 3 are going to be like their system sellers for it. I'd bet money. Still probably a few years away, but they're coming. There's money to be made.

>>382950795
Never learned how to count to 3.

>>382950795
You did. You all did. You enabled them.

For years you lauded them as the "good guy" and defended their practices until not even you could defend what they've become. This is all your fault.

>>382975186

And I suppose you're an infallible perfect consumer who has never done anything to contribute to the downfall of the industry?

>>382950795
They stopped making games.

Honestly the problem with them is basically 2:
1. They want to do EVERY SINGLE THING "in-house"
Which leads to
2. They're spread too thin over the many projects they're doing

Like, seriously. People talk about Valve like they're a Ubisoft or something similar. But you know how many employees Valve has? About 300.
Ubisoft has over 10000. No, I didn't put an extra 0 there.

With just 300(if much) employees Valve has to:
Support DOTA 2, CS:GO and TF2(that also includes shit like comics, videos and tournaments)
Support and develop Steam, which is a massive undertaking especially considering the thousands of developers using it and asking for support.
Design and develop hardware, including their controller, the VR controllers, designing headsets and Lighthouse, maybe new Steam link iterations.
Actively developing new games for VR, which if everything goes right, 3 of them will be revealed this year.
All the different internal projects that may or may not ever see the light of day (see Stars of Blood).
Working on SFM, Source2

And some shit.
Hell, it was only this fucking year that they started using dedicated people, apparently 3rd parties, to help them with the support tickets from Steam. They either need to go on a hiring spree or get more 3rd parties to help. No wonder their employees are the most "profitable" in the US.

What

>>382975963
That is a crazy statistic. Why don't they hire more people?

>>382975368
Fuckin' A, I am. Every single decision that ended up leading the industry further to shit that I saw the average idiot gamer defend and follow along with their nose up the perpetrator's asshole, I refused to participate in.

Valve was dead to me almost immediately after Portal 2 when I realized they wouldn't be doing anything else relevant ever again. MvM almost tempted me to come back until I saw they fucked that up too.

I didn't buy into the Sony "revival" hype with the PS4, I don't play ASSFAGGOTS or other cancerous e-sports games, I don't use Twitch, I don't follow e-celebs, I don't support unethical publisher practices, I don't buy consoles with shitty paid online, I'm not even on Steam anymore if I can fucking avoid it and have barely bought anything in the past 6 years. I've just sat back with the games I already own and watched you all fuck this industry up beyond recognition.

Congratulations, by the way, you diligent consumer fucks. This is what your tribalism over format wars and celebration of assholes who don't even know you exist gets you.

>>382976570
Because they only want the "best" or something.
Or maybe because their employees are the best well paid in the entire industry, so their cost is too high, so any new employee costs like 10 from another company.

>>382967749
What's wrong with VNN?

>>382957079
The beard made him evil

giving into icefrogs personal vendetta against league that lead to them

>ignoring tf2
>ignoring csgo (though its playerbase is still growing even though its shit)
>ignoring half life and cockblocking fans for a decade

also pushing source (still)

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I'll never get over Valve's great decline
Sometimes I go back and play the Half Life's and get swallowed up in anger
Now all we get are backed gimmicky hardware and distribution trends
Fuck Gabe for betraying our trust

>>382954883
anti-trust laws prevent MS from doing that

Valve's decline is still nowhere near as bad as the bullshit MS and Intel pulled with the Kaby Lakes. I sincerely hope windows 10 blows the fuck up in MS's face after the years of incessant carrot-sticking to force people into upgrading to a less-functional, less-private, everything-is-licensed-not-owned operating system.

The only things keeping me from switching to linux are laziness (which is 90% of MS's success, no doubt) and the lack of game support. Maybe an app store lockdown is just the thing needed for linux game development to really kick into high gear.

>>382980593
>implying laws have ever stopped powerful corporations literally buried in money from doing anything
I'm sure Disney would get a nice laugh from your post, though. You should email them.

>>382970783
Why would there need to be dota 3? Are you ill?

>>382981079
For the same reason L4D2 was a blessing in disguise.

>>382950795
They stopped making games because Steam printed money for them.

>>382981161
It already got ported to source 2, we don't need a third dota 2 we barely got all dota heroes in.