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1080p/60 or 4k/30

Game unrelated
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1440p/144
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>>382935982
60fps is necessary in some games
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>playing with less than 3 digit fps

consolecucks gonna cuck
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>>382935982
>pictures where we downscale and blur sharp-looking HD images and pretend that the normal one is 4K
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>>382935982
1366x768 at silky smooth 25 fps
that's how we played video games back when men were men not trap fapping boys
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>>382935982
actually if western devs were competent they would include 900p60fps option on PS4 games
But they rather just release 1080p25fps because optimization on consoles require extra work than resolution patch
Developers should follow Nioh and release 720p60fps on PS4 and 1080p60fps option on PS4 pro
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I play all my games in 1768x992
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>>382935982
1080/60 anyday, certain genres like most JRPGs 4k/30 would be acceptable.
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>>382937036
this
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>>382937036
nier did this as well.
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>>382935982
Response over resolution. Why not 4k60fps. If it's not 60fps at least you know it's gonna be shit.
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>>382937036
>actually if western devs were competent they would include 900p60fps option on PS4 games
They can't do that because the CPU is too shit for many games. Nioh works at 60fps in 720p mode because it got pretty simple physics and animations.
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4k/30

Most of the retards on this board don't own 4k screens and have never seen what a difference it actually makes. Of course they're gonna pick the other one.
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im fine with 4k/30 on a rpg with a solid motion blur.
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>>382935982
I fucking hate the gaming comunity for actually allowing this to happen

All started with the pc community actually thinkign 2160p was good, then when nvidia realized they started marketing cards as "4k", now that sony and microsoft realized how sucessful was with PC they are doing it for consoles, this shit actually holds down graphics since they rather make 4k textures than actually improving graphics or the fucking gameplay to begin with
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>>382937542
Nigga I would rather play a 540p game at 60fps than a 1080p game at 30fps.
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>>382937292
This is a meme. PS4 CPU (8 cores) can handle most of modern games in 720p or 900p60fps.
I do know the clock rate is somehow slow but most of PS4 games don't even use full CPU power anyway.
PS4 Pro super fast DDR5 6.8 Gbit/s could easily run most games in 1080p60fps if developers didn't try to push the dynamic 4K meme
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>>382937685
Why?
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>Gameplay and performance over visual fidelity 10 times out of 10
>MUH PRETTY GRAHPIX tards need to fuck right off
>gameplay is king in fucking gaming
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>>382937642
How can you really put the blame on PC? Resolutions improving overtime is absolutely nothing new, PC just always has the newest technology way before consoles.

Blame the biggest audience on consoles normalfags, who would prefer prettier graphics over a smooth framerate.
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>>382936042
this
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>>382937858
Because 60fps owns. It's lightning-fast. It feels good.
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>>382937710
>PS4 Pro super fast DDR5 6.8 Gbit/s
Anon, let's not pretend that you know what any of that means, 6.8 Gbit/s is actually pretty slow for a modern GPU, especially considering the RX 560's memory runs at 7 Gbit/s, and that's a $120 GPU.
That said, memory speed isn't the only thing that determines performance, and the CPU is much more important for hitting 1080p60.
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>>382937542
If you can afford a 4k monitor you should be able to afford not running in garbage 30fps. Or did you throw all your money into a monitor rather then parts that could actually handle it like a total fucking retard.
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>>382935982
1080p/120fps locked and strobed
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>>382938070
I'm not talking about monitor, I'm talking about televisions.
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>>382937952
>How can you really put the blame on PC

All this shit of 4k started with PC

>Blame the biggest audience on consoles normalfags, who would prefer prettier graphics over a smooth framerate.

You mean PC who rathers masturbate with graphics instead of actual gameplay of physics
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>>382938254
Oh so garbage then.
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>>382937710
No, the CPU is shit, Developers admitted this early on, the GPU is also bandwidth limited, Pro's GPU being clocked to 900mhz is pretty shitty

Hitting 60fps isn't as easy as people think
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>>382938296
>PS4s flagship games are literal movies
>LOL TEH PC GAMERS ARE OBSESSED WITH GRAPICS NO GAMPLAIS

yeah, no
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>>382935982
4k is a meme resolution.
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>>382938351
Who the fuck plays a game on a tiny ass monitor?
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>>382935982

Am I the only one who doesn't give a fuck whether the games 1080 or 4K?

I also don't give a shot about teraflops or fucking checkerboard bullshit.

As long as my games play well, have some depth to the gameplay and are fairly easy on the eye I'm good.
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>>382938549
>higher resolution is a meme

/v/ is literally the dumbest board on this site

signed /g/
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>>382935982
>not getting 60 frames at 4k

Pathetic
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>>382938059
so you are saying a RX 560 is not capable of running 1080p60fps?
it can run 99% of games in 1080p60fps if you don't boost everything to max settings
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>>382938393
Meanwhile they could turn higher profit potential from releasing a better console with a longer shelf life than short term consoles.
Fun note here I use an r9 390 at base clock it's 1050mhz and I can get up to 1150 before I have to change power draw or voltage when skyrocketing much higher. This is a $220 gpu and I can maintain over 120 fps easily in most games at max. Consoles are legit worse of a choice on every level and serve nothing but to drain money.
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Surely the REAL question should be
>4K Medium Settings 60 fps
or
>1080p High Settings 60 fps
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>>382938640
>a bump in resolution that doesn't result in better visual quality on any screen that isn't 60 inches large is not a meme
;)
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>>382938393
Infamous SS can run at 45~56fps in a regular PS4
The game has lots of heavy GPU effects and high quality textures
PS4 Pro can run most games in 1080p60fps if developers optimized it
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>>382936042
This. Amazing for games that support it.
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>>382938554
Who the fuck plays a game with interpolated 4k.
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>>382938640
t. technology board that uses consoles for games
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>4k
>60fps

GOTY confirmed?
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>>382938584
Gameplay is always king, but unless the game's turn-based or something, performance ties directly into gameplay and can fuck with the responsiveness of a game.
That said, graphics are a pretty big meme, and I say that as someone with a pretty powerful PC.
>>382938720
Uhh, the RX 560 can't run most games at 1080p60 on anything higher than medium-low.
It's a budget GPU that generally competes with AMD's $140-$200 GPUs from like 3 years ago, or their $350-$500 GPUs from 5 years ago.
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The future is 27''-32'' monitors in 4K
The technology is not there at the moment

The best technology in the moment is 27'' IPS panels with 144hz support
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>>382939085
there you go, RE7 1080p60fps is possible on PS4 considering you have 5.5GB of GDDR5 instead of 4GB
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>>382937036
>if western devs were competent

>when Japanese devs are the ones who impose arbitrary framecaps just because
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>>382935982

1080p/60.

The higher resolution, the higher frame rate you need for smooth motion. It's why you play low res PS1 games at a solid 30 FPS just fine, but it's very noticeable in certain games already in 1080p.
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>>382938847
>Infamous SS can run at 45~56fps in a regular PS4
????
It's closer to 30-40 FPS, with the 1800p PS4 Pro mode running at a similar framerate and the 1080p PS4 Pro mode running at 50-60 FPS.
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>>382939276
latest patch release? It runs at average 42 fps on base PS4 and 55fps on PS4 Pro.
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>>382939276

It's so fucking bizarre to see different versions of the same console perform differently. That just shouldn't happen, ever.
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>>382939229
That's not how memory works, PS4 games typically use 3 GB of VRAM and the remaining 2.5 GB of the 5.5 GB available to devs is used for non-graphics related aspects, pic related.
And RE7 already runs at 1080p60 on a base PS4, and it got a pretty paltry resolution boost on PS4 Pro.
Some weird shit like 2240x1260 or something like that.
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Actually I was checking the footage Infamous SS runs at 60fps basically all the time on PS4 Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iD_hcP75KI
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>>382939276
When ever action goes down it around 35-40 at best

the 1800p is also just 1280p checkerboarded to 1800p
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>>382939401
So 30-45.
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>>382935982
As much fps as I can get if it's a multiplayer game, even if I have to play on the lowest settings.
All you need is: Clean visuals, good artstyle, twice the fps of your monitor's refresh rate.
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>>382938463
>PC's best looking games are literally console games
>PC exclusives are games that can run on toasters

I find it ironic that the platform that's the most elitist about graphics brags about games that wouldn't have been possible without consoles.
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>>382939558
>basically all the time on PS4 Pro
>Numerous drops to the mid-low 50s
What did he mean by this?
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>>382939807
very very rare it drops to below 56fps and it goes back to 60fps very fast
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>>382939737
>PC's best looking games are literally console games

Hunter Call of the Wild isn't even on Consoles yet
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>>382939737
>I find it ironic that the platform that's the most elitist about graphics brags about games that wouldn't have been possible without the platform that's the most elitist about graphics
What did he mean by this?
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For fast paced games, especially online multiplayer games: 1080p/60

For slower paced games with good artstyle / graphics: 4K/30

Is it that hard to understand?
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>>382939907
So it's not at 60 FPS all the time?
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>>382938463
Thats actually really good point though, this 4k meme put pcfags like myself in such a shitty position on this board.
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>>382939807
that video is a bit dishonest, it doesn't show any action scenes because it drops to the 30's

Digital Foundry have a Sony bias
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>>382940043
I said it's almost all the time
Stop pretending you are retarded to get (you)
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>>382939737
m8, do you think games are made on a console?
Everything from the design of the chips used in those consoles to the games created to be played on them is done on a PC.
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>>382935982
>bought a 4k monitor
>couldn't tell a difference
frames are always more important
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>>382939737
>Civilization series couldn't be possible without consoles
>Squad/ARMA/Rising Storm/STALKER - first person shooters that are too complicated to be played with a shitty gamepad - wouldn't have been possible without consoles though
>All games that favour gameplay over graphics whilst the console plebs scream and beg for more cinematic experiences
>PC's best looking games are literally console games
>Look better than console games, play at higher framerates than consoles, more control choices than consoles - not possible without consoles

The simple fact is whilst PC games DO look better than consoles, DO play better than consoles there are also entire genres that consoles can't even play the favour gameplay over graphics.
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>>382935982
>there are people in this thread that care about graphics
I have a GTX 1070 and I still play multiplayer games on the lowest settings just so I can get the max fps and make the game look as clean and sharp as possible.
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>>382940132
No, you said "basically all the time."
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>>382940229
It's almost like they intentionally design the higher graphic settings on multiplayer games to be the most obnoxious and disruptive.
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>>382940239
which means almost all the time.
''Basically ''in that sentence is relating the word ''all''
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>>382940101
>Digital Foundry have a Sony bias

gee, it's almost as if sony is not only the defacto runner of the videogame industry, but also has the deepest pockets
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>>382940424
that's wrong though when Richard was invented to "Microsoft HQ" he went back and made 5 videos about Scorpio gossip
20 minutes video about buzzwords. They are britbong whores
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>>382935982
4k/60hz on an OLED TV or go home.
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>>382940176
I own 3 of those games, they should be glad they dont have them.
>Squad
Early access shit that'll never leave development.
>ArmA
You can play it on a gamepad, but its shitty, the entire game is just shit.
>Rising Storm 2
its meh, its not bad but its not good.
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>>382940424
>but also has the deepest pockets
Nah, MS has them beat by a wide margin. Sony's in poor shape across the divisions, so much that the videogame one is the most profitable now.
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In, for example: the Kingdom Hearts bundle for PS4, the gameplay runs at 60 FPS, but the cutscenes still run at 30. It's actually so bad the cutscenes are hard to look at. In this instance, it would have been better to keep the gameplay at 30 and focused on improving the resolution. If the cutscenes were lower resolution than the gameplay, it would be less noticeable than the very clear FPS drop.

>>382939276
In this instance Pro High Perf is the best option because High res doesn't make significant enough of a difference in resolution compared to the framerate increase of High Perf. The higher framerate is going to be far more noticeable than the higher resolution.

It depends on the circumstances.
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>>382940518
>OLED meme
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>>382935982
4k/60
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>>382940518
>TV
You're the faggots causing the OLED shortage rather then let them be made into actual monitors with many more features.
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>>382940879
OLED technology can't work on monitors because the leds die out in 3~4 years
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>>382940571
>>382940424

Okay, maybe not in deep pockets, but Sony's influence on the video game industry isn't one to be ignored. Some publishers say that this is the "fourth generation" of video games, and the PS is on its fourth console. Playstation has defined video games for over two decades, and if it wasn't for them, Microsoft would have never entered consoles. Not to mention that they practically guaranteed all Japanese support.

Developers wouldn't care if Microsoft or Nintendo dropped out, they wouldn't care if PC died entirely. But if Sony dropped out of the console space, the industry would literally be in shambles.
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>>382940571
This, Sony is failing on every other front, except video games right now.
And no one can possibly challenge microsoft if they were serious. People forget the majority and by majority I mean nearly 95% of all PCs out there run a version of Windows. Be it their latest or even an older edition, on top of every government contract in the world they have. Microsoft quite literally runs the world in a sense.
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>>382941016
OLED was developed to make current LEDs better, god damn don't go full retard. The average shelf life of an OLED is nearly three times greater with a much less likely chance of dead pixels.
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>>382941138
Yeah, that sure has done a lot to stop the PlayStation from dominating the video game sector worldwide, hasn't it?
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>>382940678
It is objectively the best display technology out there.
>Perfect contrast
>Excellent colors
>Instant pixel response time
>Ultra thin
>Low power consumption
You get all of the benefits that CRTs still have over LCDs, while being better at all of the benefits LCDs had.

>>382940879
The shortage is in phone AMOLED screens. The reason we haven't seen many OLED monitors is down to production yields on smaller screens being much lower. Its why all of the TV makers are focusing on making massive displays, they are far easier to churn out. There isn't an OLED display available below 55" right now, Dell tried making a 30" monitor but they canned production after just a month.
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>>382941091
>But if Sony dropped out of the console space, the industry would literally be in shambles.
Kek, no, not really, people would move on to the next big thing.
Believe it or not, the average person isn't a brand loyalist, they don't give a fuck about Sony as a company, they went with the PS4 because the XB1 was a fucking joke and M$ showed their anti-consumer hand too soon.
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>>382937642
I quite enjoy a higher PPI.
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ioannis-kefalas

idk
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>>382941342
To Microsoft the lords of the world, it is a mere side project that's just a cute thing to do.
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>>382941497
I don't know, a lot of publishers are more willing to make deals with Sony than Microsoft. Sony has sold 60 million PS4s. Sony owns the market. If Sony dropped out of the console race, Japan's video game industry would be destroyed since they typically make games only for one system, almost exclusively Sony's.
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>>382941329
The problem is that the blue OLEDs wear out much faster than the other two. The displays are capable of lasting much longer than 3-4 years, but will start to look off as the blue goes funky.
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I'm still playing at 1366x768 and it's alright. Don't feel like I need to upgrade.
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>>382941091
If Sony died, the AAA market would be reduced to at best 50% of its size.
And that's a good thing, because the AAA market has been cancer for a decade now.
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>>382940028
No, its always 60fps. Minimum 60fps for any resolution. If you want the kino effect then it is 24fps but not 30
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>>382936042
fpbp
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>>382941846
>Japan's video game industry would be destroyed since they typically make games only for one system, almost exclusively Sony's.
Kek, uwotm8?
Japs make plenty of games for Nintendo hardware, hell, most of the best-selling games there are 3DS/Switch games nowadays.
If Sony died the amount of awful business practices, fanboys, and general market stupidity they'd take with them would be a net positive.
Video games don't NEED to be some huge industry on the same level as Hollywood movies, because that kind of industry stops being a creative one and starts being a business.
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>>382935982
4k/30 for browsing/work/etc
2k/60 for gaymen
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>>382935982
Isn't almost every "comparison" image like this? Something's really blurry and looks like shit, while the "better" thing looks crystal clear. When I see shit like this, I think someone just went into photoshop and touched it up with some filters and called it a day. Really, how the fuck do you know it's a clear image?
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>>382942298
Open a 1080p image in paint, resize it to 200%.
Now open a 4k image in paint and do the same.
Congrats, you're now on par with these "professionals."
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>>382935982
1080p/144Hz/TXAA
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>>382937642
Consoles actually have more 4k users than PC does

Virtually nobody is gaming on 4k right now. All the 4K monitors suck total ass and you can't even get more than 120hz out of them - even buying the stupidly expensive $2000 monitors that can do it.

Resolution is one area that console gamers have PC beat. Everyone on PC is playing 240hz 1080p or 144hz 1440p and nobody has 4k except console players at 30fps.
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>>382942298
>>382942428
It is 4 times more pixels, best way to show that off is to zoom in on something and highlight the difference in detail that makes. Also makes showcasing the comparison on a non-4k display more feasible. I don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp.
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>>382942665
>Consoles actually have more 4k users than PC does
Stopped reading there.
In a world where DSR/VSR exists, monitor specs don't really matter when you can just downsample from 4k on a 1080p screen (which is what many PS4 Pro games do, albeit from checkerboarded 4k or 1800p or 1440p).
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>>382939737
this is 100% true

It didn't used to be true, because all the super good graphics games used to be done for PC and then ported to console

But now that consoles outsell PC's, they're made for console first and PC second
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>>382942665
>All the 4K monitors suck total ass and you can't even get more than 120hz out of them
We only just got to the point where you can reliably do 4k/60 on a single mid-high end GPU, its going to be a long time before 4k with high refresh rates is doable. Never mind that we don't even have a cable that can do it widely adopted yet.
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>>382942939
>The 1080ti being referred as just "mid-high end"
Now I've seen everything
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>>382935982
>1080p/60
Are you living in 2007 op?
1080p/1440p @ 144hz is the new standard.
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>>382942665
What are you basing that off of? The Steam Hardware survey? You have to realize that the statistics there are being dragged down heavily by millions and millions of third worlder shit rigs. The number of people who have 4k monitors and the GPUs to do 4k/60 far exceed the number of people who bought PS4 Pros.
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>>382943478
A 1070 can do 4k/60 without much trouble at all, a 1080 Ti can do 4k/60 with everything maxed out and some AA on top.
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>>382943897
>A 1070 can do 4k/30 without much trouble at all
ftfy
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>>382944194
If you are some dysfunctional retard incapable of tweaking settings, sure.
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>>382943897
>Needing AA at 4K
What's the point besides sharper textures?
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>>382935982
4k 60, only children have to choose

And Btw when it comes to pixel count the performance options would be 1440p 60 4k 30
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>>382944505
Not saying it is necessary, just that with a 1080 Ti you have that much headroom.
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>>382936934
Speak for yourself you dumb piece of shit
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>>382944495
Games like bf1 and doom don't count as the standard game
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>>382946127
>Popular games don't count because reasons
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>>382946127
Uhh, the standard game is a lot less demanding than Doom and BF1 anon.
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>>382944495
Name one modern game that gets 60fps on 4k with a 1070, and show the benchmark test.
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>>382946524
>>382946414
Bf1 and doom run better than any other AAA title out there relative to graphical fidelity, almost by a factor of 2:1
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>>382946687
Tweak the settings down a bit and this would get over 60fps no issue.
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>>382946793
>relative to graphical fidelity
That's irrelevant considering they're the 2 best-looking games on the market.
Games like GTA V, MGSV, Overwatch, Titanfall 2, Hitman, Cawwadooty, Gears 4, and The Division would have little to no problem running at 4k60 on a 1070 with some settings tweaking.
Hell, even lesser-optimized games like DaS 3 could do it.
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>>382947091
Yeah but those games look like shit compared to bf1 or doom.
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>>382946997
>48.8fps
1070 confirmed for console tier trash. Get a 1080, or go suck dicks with the consolebabies.
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>>382947260
>I can tell the difference between high and very high
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>>382947214
Every game looks like shit compared to BF1 or Doom.
Ghost Recon Wildlands runs like trash and it looks worse than most of the games I just listed.
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>>382947260
That's at the highest settings, drop a few high impact things like shadows to high or medium and I'm sure it would get over 60 just fine.
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It doesn't matter as long as the game is fun.
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>>382935982
1440/144
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>>382947359
Right, that's what I'm saying. When you're talking about how well the average game performs you cannot talk about the absolute best running games out there as if they were the average. Name very specific titles next time you talk about performance or shut the fuck up
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>>382947428
If I was fine with the game looking like shit, I would get a console.
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>>382947889
Nigger, YOU'RE the one making the claim that most games can't run at 4k60, and unlike you, I listed games that could do so easily with tweaked settings.
There's also Forza Horizon, Forza 6, Battlefront, For Honor, RE7, every modern Dirt game, every pre-BF1 Battlefield, and pretty much every non-AAA game that's not made by Japs or something.
There are maybe 5 games I can think of that a 1070 flat out couldn't run at 4k60 on anything but low, and those are GRW, TW3, Deus Ex MD, and possibly Watch Dogs 2.
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>>382937036
Tons of western devs do 900p/30fps as the default, you dumb shitposter. The best current nip game, Bloodborne, has terrible frame pacing and deliberately sacrificed performance for visuals.
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>>382948432
From is just incompetent, all of their games have frame pacing issues on and off. In DS3 the game shipped with frame pacing issues, they went away for awhile, and then came back after an update.
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>>382948318
The average 2016-2017 release will not run at 4k 60fps om a 1070, that's pretty much a fact. Of course it could handle 2014 or before titles and the miracle games like the ones that already hit 60fps on consoles, but those bare few are not the "standard." they are the best case scenario, the absolute best performing games out there. They are not the average, that's just the fucking way it is. When you say that a 1070 is a 4k 60fps game card, say they you mean games which are a few years old and bf/doom so I dont think you're a fucking retard
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>>382935982
256x192/30fps.
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>>382948654
>The average 2016-2017 release will not run at 4k 60fps om a 1070, that's pretty much a fact.
Name one please.
Because I just named a bunch of 2016-2017 releases that will.
And For Honor doesn't run at 60 FPS on consoles and could easily hit 4k60 on a 1070.
Name some games that I haven't already named that are 2016-2017 releases or fuck off nigger.
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>>382948654
I'm only running an R9 Fury and even I can do 4k at 45-60 FPS in recent games on high settings.
Pic related.
And my GPU is quite a bit weaker than a 1070.
There are a lot of games out there where performance is tanked by literally one or 2 settings, like RE7 for example.
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>>382948829
For honor wouldn't, prey won't with SS reflections, ghost recon wouldn't, Dishonored 2 wouldn't, total war Warhammer wouldn't, and the other ones even you listed wouldn't

There's a very small facet of AAA games that would, and they are Dice games and doom
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>>382948829
>I-i-i-it totally gets 60 fps if you play on low

Kys you sub-50 nigger that finds console settings acceptable
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framerate > resolution
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>>382949049
I don't see an fps counter there. Anybody who is fine with 45+fps I don't trust to give average performance metrics anyway
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>giving a shit about garbage western MULTIPLATS
>ALMOST 2018

You faggots are the reason why video games are dead. Muh graphics, muh framerates, muh PC ports. All of this shit took a back seat to gameplay, all of this shit is causing real (Japanese) video games to die.
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>>382949267
>I don't see an fps counter there.
So you're blind?
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>>382949140
>For honor wouldn't
see
>>382949049

>prey won't with SS reflections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdAbIWPiCro
45+ FPS on ultra at 4k, with some settings tweaking it could easily hit 60.
Also, the SS reflections aren't all that demanding in Prey.

>Dishonored 2
Dishonored 2 isn't even all that demanding outside of ultra settings.

>TW:W wouldn't
Not on ultra settings, but again, with tweaking it would easily.
>There's a very small facet of AAA games that would, and they are Dice games and doom
And also all the games I mentioned.
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>>382949429
>top right
My bad, also why the fuck would you make your afterburner font blue, the color of the fucking sky?
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>>382949267
>>382949429
And here's another game I ran at 4k on a weaker GPU.
>>382949537
Because it's less distracting than the default purple and not all that hard to read.
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>>382949509
Give me a benchmark of for honor running at an average of 58fps or more with no settings below "high" other than AA at 4k.
>muh 45+ fps is close enough to even 60!
No it's not, show me a benchmark, even if it's just your own or shit the fuck up. 50 fps is not 60. 55 fps is not 60. 60 is 60.
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>>382949697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE1XZYnqJX0
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>>382949924
>medium shadows
That answer is incorrect. The penalty is death.
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>>382949924
>drops to 50 the moment combat starts
Fucking kill yourself
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>>382950068
Ehh, high shadows don't make much of a difference in performance and the framerate would still hover around 55-65.
>>382950176
???
58 != 50
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>>382950334
55 fps is not 60 fps you stupid poor nigger

Play at 3k with vsync and stop pretending to have something better than you do
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>>382936706
oh yeah, like fighting games
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>>382950562
>55 fps is not 60 fps you stupid poor nigger
Oh fuck off nigger, a 1080 Ti doesn't maintain 60 FPS at 4k in most games either, what's your point?
A 1070 is 100% capable of 4k60 gameplay in most games, not my fault you're autistic and think anything below max settings is unplayable.
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>>382937542
>Playing an FPS, Racing game or Fighting game at 30FPS.
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>>382950707
But a 1080ti DOES actually maintain 60fps in almost every single game at 4k apart from Unity. Even Tw3 does when I'm overclocked, it's great.

A 1070 is 4k50 fps capable, just deal with it. The video you posted shows framerate capping out at 61 and running an average of 55 with frequent dips to 50 or below. That is not 60fps gameplay.
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>>382950870
>But a 1080ti DOES actually maintain 60fps in almost every single game at 4k apart from Unity.
https://youtu.be/7l2meA6NHks?t=20
https://youtu.be/7l2meA6NHks?t=183
https://youtu.be/7l2meA6NHks?t=346
https://youtu.be/7l2meA6NHks?t=569

1080 Ti confirmed for 4k45 fps capable GPU.
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>>382951182
You don't know how to argue you retarded dumbass. Everything that you claim needs to be done to get the 1070 to be a 4k 60fps gpu actually applies to the 1080ti. It needs to be overclocked, AA needs to be disabled, and games which are fundamentally broken like the division and dishonored 2 need to be run at a lower resolution no matter what.

The 1080ti is almost twice as fast as a 1070 which is why it's far, far more capable of playing games at 4k and 60fps. The irony is that you are shitposting so hard right now that you are making an even better case against your original argument than I did; if a gpu which is 40% faster than the 1070 can't hit 60fpa stable in everything, than how can the 1070?

But the 1080ti can run everything but broken shit at 4k 60fps when overclocked and settings tweaked. It's not pathetic to say that about the 1080ti because it will actually maintain a stable 60 and not some retarded 55 fps on medium settings like the 1070 does
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>>382936706
like, literally any game
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really as long as you have good anti-aliasing then 1080p is good enough for anything below ~30", maybe even above that depending on how close you are to the screen. and the op pic is less a resolution comparison and more of demonstration of how how lcds aren't good at dealing with non-native resolutions.
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>>382935982
Low 720p/60 > Ultra 8K/30
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>>382935982
stylized minecraft 240p/1000+
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>>382938802
this
and I'll take 4k medium with texture quality jacked up
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>>382951767
My point is that the 1070 can hit 60 FPS at 4k with settings tweaked, even on medium-high, you're arguing that that doesn't count because it drops below 60 FPS. By that logic, the 1080 Ti is also not a 4k capable GPU, even on the same settings, because it ALSO drops below 60 FPS.
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