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>He's forced to pick tank/support characters.

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>He's forced to pick tank/support characters.
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>implying Reinhardt isn't the most fun character
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>implying zarya isn't the most fun character
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I'm not forced to pick any character, I can play any role, depending on what my team needs. And so should you
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>>382927108
>He doesn't only play tank/support characters
I don't know about you hit Zenyatta, Reinhardt, and Zarya are the most fun I ever had with that shit game
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>implying Roadhog isn't the most fu- oh wait
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>>382927325
>When your team needs you to play mercy
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>>382927452
And?
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>Forced
Do people still think that this game NEEDS a healer in order to win?
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>>382927252
more like most team reliant and therefore most frustrating
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>>382927452
>not playing Ana instead
Mercy is shit. SHIT.
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>>382927108
i'll always gladly play lucio and zarya
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>>382927108
>forced
I insta lock tracer every game. Tanks and healers are for other people to play.
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>>382927108
>Not playing the Biggg Centaur.
Cease your existence.
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>>382927108
>playing shit mobas
>when you could play the best moba Dota 2
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>>382927108
I was about to say ">playing a FPS with tanks" but Tank Jr was in Q3 and there was a couple of maps with tanks in ET.
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>>382927108
>not playing sniper every game
do you even dickhead
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>Get stuck playing tank and healer in season 1 a lot even though I solo queued as mccree up to 69
>Kind of stagnate for a while because I'm really not all that good at support or tank
>Eventually have a break through for both roles and make it up to 75 largely playing Ana and Reinhardt
>Now enjoy them and can play every character for both rolls at a GM level

Winston becomes the most fun of the tanks once you learn how to land leaps and get the melee cancel timing.
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>implying i don't lock in mei every game and mute everybody
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>>382928380
>lock mei
>bind icicle left mouse
>click heads all day
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>>382927108
and this is why I like playing mystery heroes
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>>382928380
>Mute everyone like a pussy
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>>382927612
mercy is better for lower skill groups, all the way up to diamond. past there she's pretty much useless except for rez though
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>>382928304
winston becomes the most fun when you do that and also learn when to go in and how to cut people off with the booble shield
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>He is not just playing whatever he finds fun.

eediooots
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>Oh hey guys, can anyone change?
>I'm not that good at (((character))) (((class)))
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>"Guys we need this."
>person who says it won't switch themselves
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>>382928304
>melee cancel timing
?
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>>382929589
i always try to play healer dude
and we always lose
what the fuck do you want me to do because i fundementally suck ass
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>>382927586
That's not Winston.
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>>382930129
Why do you take a healer spot if you suck ass,go learn right click with dva and climb up.
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>play as one of the only two viable classes in the game

yeahbutmymedals.cry
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>>382929209
Right, but if we have something like a mercy/lucio comp playing Reinhardt will suck massive balls because you can't be aggressive.
Ana is hands down best healer and a must-pick.
Mercy is for all the scrubs that just wants resses and pockets.
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>>382929589
it always baffles me that people go into ranked without at least basic skill in every healer. its like not even a hard job
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>>382930332
i take a healer spot when nobody else would play healer and we needed one retard, that's the whole point
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>>382930569
This is the most common mistake people make,specially not at the higher rank the comp of a team is not that important but more the individual skill of the players.
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>>382930465
>I'm not good at lucio
>keep healing beat on and follow teammates
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>>382927108
>Not being class fluid and able to switch out to whatever the team needs at any time
I'll never be able to understand mainfags
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>>382927452

Why the fuck would I not play Lucio ever? I like having fun.
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>>382927612
Ana needs to be player at high gold/diamond in order for her to outheal mercy, its stupid that I can put in way more time in Ana just to get her to the point a retard mercy plays at. But I'm sticking with best healer.
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Played healer for 2 seasons. Realized half the people are retards. Go dps (reaper, soldier, pharah, junk) carry every fucktard for an entire season. Go from silver to platinum and still climbing.
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I get to play Winston? Awesome!
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>>382930091
landing from a leap will cancel your melee so you can essentially get a free 30 damage if you time it correctly.
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>in game the other day
>attacking Ruskie Town
>playing rein
>entire rest of team ignores junkrat on the roof of the first building as he rains bombs on us
>go Winston to deal with him and still try to tank
>end game with gold damage at a whopping 2k

>tfw dps is the most braindead role but your teammates still can't handle it
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>still no tank that is essentially the heavy, with a minigun that is fucking devastating upclose and has pushback.
I would want them to use Rhino's minigun overheat mechanic for the minigun from dirtybomb and give him a shotty as a primary weapon
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>Be pro CoD player
>always pick S76 and kick everyone's ass
>tfw the salt pours like an avalanche coming down a mountain
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Lucio, Symmetra, and all the tanks are fun.
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>>382927252
but thats Winston or Zarya.
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>>382930709
>comp is unimportant at high level
i'm assuming by high you mean gold or diamond because nigga you retarted
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>>382931051
>caring about medals
Yeah mercy usually gets all the gold - but Ana is who you'll be relying on as a tank when you push in, Mercy's 60hps simply isn't enough for any sustained damage.

Ana also have the added benefit of being able to completely shut down healing for the enemy team - or put a tank (or anything really - but tanks are usually a 100% chance) to sleep for 10 seconds.
Mercy ain't got shit on Ana.
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>>382927452
they can go fuck themselves. If I'm playing support it's Zenyatta or nothing. Not my fault the rest of you picked Tracer, Pharah and Genji. I just want to play as Genji sometimes, assholes, someone else pick support
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>forced to be tank and or support
>you end up getting silver or gold in damage
>yfw you lose a game beacuse the dps could not do its jobb.
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>>382927108
forced to play support
>pick ana and sustain the team single-handedly
>pick zen if we have another healer to be a secondary DPS
>else pick lucio and bump people off ledges for funsies
forced to pick tanks
>implying tanks aren't the most fun characters to play in OW

faggot
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>>382929589
>giving children soda.

and thats how they grow fat later in life.
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>>382927108
>pick hog
>get reported for throwing
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>>382929589
>putting applejuice in there instead of orange juice
I'd be making that face too.
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>>382927108
>implying I don't instalock DPS to climb
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>>382931683
Hmmm. Thanks for the info, ill keep that in mind. Her ability to change fights is what has me playing her.
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>Play Genji
>Watch a friendly Phara get guaranteed play of the game and win the round for us
>Steal it with a shitty play
Is this what it feels like to be an asshole?
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>>382927108
>implying roadhog isn't the most fun character
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>>382931325
honestly heavy is just too boring to play
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>>382927108
nobody's forcing you to do anything.
never let anyone tell you who to play.
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>>382931325
Orisa is basically the Heavy without any personality, like how Mercy is basically the Medic without any personality, or Junkrat is the Demoman without any personality.
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>>382932547
If you got a friend to play with - have him play Reinhardt while you play Ana (or the other way around - I'm not your father) - unless you're up against a dive-comp the healing nade is what allows you to push - and the strong healing allows Reinhardt to be aggressive - he can dish out a shit ton of damage if he has a dedicated healer.
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>>382932967
>muh personality
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>>382933071
>I have an argument
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>>382932967
Have you even played the game?
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>>382933460
Yes. Orisa is a new hero which half-excuses her zero personality, Mercy is the typical healslut, and Junkrat is "le funne craze" guy. Few characters have any actual personality.
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Just a reminder that if you """fill""" roles then you're a giant beta cuck who lets random people on the internet push you around. I'm able to go into a game and choose whatever fucking hero I want because I'm not a fucking cuckold like all of you.
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>>382933395
>implying I need one
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>>382927108
D.va a best
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>>382933773
>Wanting a well-compsed team means you're a cuck
I'd argue that being a shit eating assbag who actively tries to ruin the game for everyone else when they can't get their way is way worse than simply playing what the team needs.
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>>382932984
Thanks anon, its always nice to get someone elses opinion to point myself in the right direction. have a reaction pic
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>>382927612

Ana is seeing a bit of drop off in play because of dive, particularly Winston dropping his bubble down and fucking up her line of sight to whoever Winston is targeting unless they remember what side of the bubble to get out of to receive your heals.
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>>382933773

>know how to play a tank
>decide to play a dps
>whole team picks everything but tank
>everyone but you is scared to make an advance and take turns peaking out and getting focused instead of moving as a unit so they aren't the only ones focused
>the game ends in 5 minutes with no ground gained because they have a balanced team and you don't
>could have been avoided if you just played a tank which is often the unspoken leader of a push and is often seen as the pillar who dictates the flow of a match

Do you really waste your time this way? It's a team game after all. You won't get shit done on your own no matter how many MLG plays you think you can make.
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>be bad
>main toblerone
>lose most games because of my own team tilting

everyone below 4.2k sr is equally bad at the game, to the point that picks themselves are completely irrelevant compared to how confident one is with a certain character. Filling a needed role without confidence will make you perform worse, I'd much rather have a confident mei than an improvised lucio who cant wallride and time his boosts.

Just play whatever the fuck you know you can do well with, you are never going to "get good" or "improve" anyway, and the game itself certainly doesnt deserve effort and will investment.
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>>382931325
Learn to play Zarya.
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>>382927108
>he's forced to play with ruskis
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>>382927586

completely false
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>he doesn't autopick tank everytime regardless of team comp
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>>382927325
That's actually not a good idea. The game rates you based on your individual performance. If you pick a hero you're unfamiliar with your team might win, but you might perform sub-par and thus gain less SR than you'd have gained in case of a win with a hero you're familiar with. On the other hand if you lose, you'd lose a lot of SR due to your comparatively poor performance. If you had stuck playing your one hero you play well with, then you'd lose less SR even if you do lose. That's why you find one-trick-pony Syms, Torbs and Widows in Master. They lose a lot of games but gain more SR on a win than they lose on a defeat due to playing that one hero well in comparison with other Syms, Torbs and Widows.
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>>382936000
>He didn't learn Russian by playing Dota 2
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>he plays heroes that are in the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""meta""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>implying im not gunna play mercy and only power boost and fly into my death every chance i get
im already diamond, could care less about dropping sr
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After I learned how to play Winston half decently I don't mind playing tank. But if I have to play a healer for more than a round or two I want to kill myself.
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>its a "theres a tank on the team and you pick a secondary tank but then the first tank switches to hanzo" episode
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>>382927108
>implying tanks aren't the most fun characters
>implying lucio and zen aren't some of the best flex characters
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>"WHY WON'T BLIZZARD NERF ROADHOG HE'S OBVIOUSLY OP AND IT TOTALLY ISN'T MY OWN FAULT FOR BEING SHIT, NUH UH, TOTALLY HONEST"
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>healing with flankers up my ass the entire game
>running back from spawn with people spamming "i need healing"
>people charging solo into the enemy team
Just kill me now
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It's for the best, I can't aim for shit despite playing shooters since I was a youngin
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>>382938864
dva isnt broken but DM is absolute cancer
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>>382927108
>he picks McCree anyway because I'm not a tank/support bitch
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>mfw Mercy jumped into 2 of my nanoboosts last match and cost us the match

You fucking whore I pinged my ult before it came out the first and second time and you still jumped in front of me
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>>382938864
Roadhog tears sustain me. The character was broken horseshit regardless of how successful he is. He still kind of is
>fuckhuge health, fuckhuge burst, fuckhuge self heal
>lol let me just hook and instakill you
>oops I missed my hook, well my right click may still instakill you
>oops i took some damage, let me run off and use my retarded heal
Maybe they can make him popular now that they've toned down a little of the horseshit
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>>382932069
The joke is that he replaced the soda with apple juice
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>>382939686
i know. but by her reaction, it proves he has given here soda plenty of times to know the taste.
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>>382938864
Wait, what happened to Reinhardt. I thought he was auto-include or lose the game.
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>>382927108
>pick Lucio
>nobody bats an eye
>speed boost all day every day
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>>382927108
>JUSTICE WILL BE DONE!
The tanks are the most fun that and only a handful of people seem to actually play tanks as tanks. There's a reason I stopped playing, the perpetual hell of people making stupid decisions day in and day out was too much.
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>>382927108
DPS mains are the worst though. I got to Masters just playing flex, and the one that that remained consistent is how shitty the attitude of DPS players are.
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>>382938864
What happened with Winston? Why is he teir 1 all of a sudden?
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>>382939535
>"I can't counter a fat piece of shit so I'm going to whine and cry on the Internet instead until Blizzard gives in to my tantrums"

>>382939932
>>382940012
Dive comp is mandatory now.
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>>382940012
Dive is the name of the game right now.
Aka picking high mobility characters and following Winston into the enemies backline and killing their supports and then the rest.
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>>382939882
>Not getting soda as many times you get can get away with while you're a kid.

Let me guess, you had your first beer when you were legally old enough too?
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Doomfist better fucking be an OP punching only hero
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>>382940007
Probably because they had a shitty teammate like you to piss them off. DPS are the only class that takes any modicum of skill. Know your fucking place you trash player.
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>>382939932
>>382940012
The meta is now much more mobile with Lucio's tweaks and Ana's healing output not being up to par. Being an invincible wall like Reinhardt doesn't really matter when the fastest moving heroes in the game(Tracer, Lucio, Winston, D.Va) are pretty much constantly in play. There's no wall to chip at, you're pretty much diving into the softest part of the enemy formation and hoping to god there's more of your team left than the enemy's in the next few seconds.
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>>382939535
just about every single character is just as bullshit in this game though
tracer can just show up, barf out damage, then fuck off, unless you can hit this railroad spike hitbox and even then her recall recalls health
mei's bubbleblower is annoying as fuck to fight at short and long range, and she has a way of both blocking out enemies and a self-heal that lets her just ignore previous damage
symmetra has a literal 0 skill weapon that will destroy you if you accidently walk near her after she kills a teammate
hanzo's shit arrow spead has one-shotted me more times than i'd fucking like to admit, and has a wall-hack. as a sniper. for the whole team.
fuck any hero that can stun you with no way to respond like that granny sleepdart and brokeback
roadhog was broken as hell, but it was nice to actually kill enemies and not be picked off in seconds, now he just serves as ult charge. unless they fix everything at once its really fucking annoying for the characters to take turns being playable
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>>382940103
>>382940123
Ah, I see. I've swapped to playing paladins for a while now, so I'm just starting to get back into the curb.
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>>382932592
You haven't been an asshole until you instalock Genji and just run around spamming mada mada even if they pick Winston
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>>382939932
Reinhardt is a perfect example of how fast and hard a meta can shift. He also proves /v/ has no idea what they're talking about 99% of the time.
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>>382927108
>he didn't have some experience in every role so he's capable of filling any role and liking it.
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>>382940156
nah. had my first real beer at the age of 15 (father let me sip his when i was younger though).
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>>382940659
I haven't played OW since the first 2 weeks of Orisa's release
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>>382940659

>he thinks rein is optional now

lmao'ing @ ur sr rn
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>>382940949
Rein isn't optional because that implies he's an option. He's shit-tier now because of dive.
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>>382927612
Ana is absolute dogshit for dive comps
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>>382941026

>people believe this

LOL
O
L
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>>382927108
>plays shitty casual babies fps designed by people that are absolutely fucking clueless at fps gameplay and map design
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>>382927108
>tfw i play whoever i feel like because i don't play ranked and i'd rather play a character i like and lose than to play one i don't like and win
although i do switch up roles and heroes all the time, i never feel like i'm obligated to play something just because someone else wants me to
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>not being a healslut
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>>382941089
He's objectively trash in any bracket higher than platinum.
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>>382940202
Yeah, nah, I've had to request people swap to let me go DPS a lot because they're regularly vocal and also shit. The ones that don't fucking whine are the ones that usually don't have absolutely abysmal positioning. If you instalock DPS at diamond and above, you better be doing your job really fucking well or you swap, the second you complain about shit I'm gonna tell you to swap because something clearly isn't working and it's almost always them.
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>>382928224
>dickhead
>picking sniper every game and not being good at it
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>>382941375

>falling for "alternative stats" in the year of 2017

maybe take your own stats instead of relying on inaccurate stats from sites trying to change the meta

Let me tell you a story of a man named reynard

rey was head of a popular stat collection site. he eventually grew tired of playing against literally the best strat all the time but he could only blame himself for popularizing it. so he tried altering his stats so he would not have to play vs the cancer he created. took the community a while to catch on since they just blinded trusted his site just as you blindly trust this site
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The two most OP characters right now are:


Please think carefully.
The correct answer is Tracer and D.Va
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>>382927108
i dont really like playing "dps" heroes anyway because i die quickly and get frustrated. playing zarya lets me take those outnumbered fights or make a play without having to take a wide flank and use my ult to shoot the whole enemy team in the back. also, half her health bar restores itself which is a godsend in solo queue

>>382936413
holy fuck, this game puts so much fucking emphasis on being a team player and forming a well oiled machine with your team mates, but they judge your individual performance? fuck you jeff
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>>382941968
>I'm too stupid to ult when D.Va is out of her mech
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>>382942092
>they judge your individual performance
It's the most straightforward way to evaluate a player. The problem is obviously that it is detrimental to playing in a team since the most reasonable decision is to stick to the heroes you're familiar with.
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>>382927108
>Forced
I could just X out, not like I actually fucking care about my rating in the most shallow and baby proof multiplayer based FPS out there.

Also.
>not playing as your waifu
>not playing as a tank to protect your waifu
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>>382941962
Most of the time players watch comp games, see a system that works and attempt to imitate it. Dive comp is incredibly easy to play, and ridiculously effective. If somebody decided to manipulate those stats they are a masochist, because the majority of those are frustrating as fuck to play against.
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That's fine just go road- oh
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>roadhog is now the least picked tank in grandmaster, behind Orisa

yeah that nerf was really needed wasn't it?
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>>382942303
I play D.va regularly, got over a 70% wr currently for this season, climbed from Gold to Masters this season too. I very rarely get caught out of my mech, and when I play DPS I will target their D.va when ults are ready and I know how easy it is to just avoid being taken out that way.
She isn't OP though, just something people need to put effort in to disabling which they don't like doing.
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>>382942987
It was. A season or two ago. Shit timing now though, buff a tank buster and nerf a dominant tank while dive is popular.
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>on offense
>first player picks Lucio
>okay cool
>2nd player picks Winston
>groovy
>3rd player Symmetra
>Well, why the fuck not
>4th; Mei
>5th, Reaper

What kind of weird ass plan were we hoping to get out of that one? Just run at the enemy and hope enough of us survive to start melting things?
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>>382943108
Roadhog never needed a nerf, he was always a beneficiary of the deathball meta. They broke that up, the meta was pretty varied for a while, then they nerfed Roadhog to hell and now there's literally zero counters to dive.
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>>382927108
overwatch's meta made me lose all interest in the game

I have no idea how people can stomach playing with the exact same meta again and again but then again LoL is popular as fuck and the meta has been rigid for over 5 years with very few meaningful changes
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>>382942987
Hilariously enough his winrate went up
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>>382943362
>play a "competitive" vydia
>expect people not to play the best toons
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>fps games with mandatory meta picks
>an fps game where you can't 1v1 without hardcounter bullshit

Ability based FPS games ruined fps forever.
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>>382943393
That's because winrate is an absolutely meaningless way to judge a character.

- If a character has a really low pickrate, the character will usually have a higher winrate simply because players are more likely to swap off if they're losing.
- If a character has a really high pickrate then it means there's usually one on either team, which means the winrate will be 50% by definition for that game.
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we need another healer
t. 3rd dps
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>>382927108
as much as i enjoy the tank role i would like to try something else once in a while. how will i be a good all around player if i can't play the other roles
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>>382943362
just play offmeta heroes, leave voice chat, and hit gm.

hanzo torb ezpz
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I like playing tanks though.
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>>382943641
Clearly you haven't played the game.
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>>382927108
Support main for 5 fucking seasons goddamnit. I want to play dps but they're always insta locked. Tfw 100+hours with zen
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>>382943357
He definitely did need a nerf though. But in typical blizzard fashion they took an opportunity to balance him and instead made him useless.
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But anon i play supports voluntarily

I did a full season of Supports only
Then a full season of Sombra + Supports
Now i'm doing a full season of Mercy only. it's fun, kinda
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>>382943629
it's not even about the heroes it's more about the same type of heroes again and again. I never got pressured to play any class in TF2 and it never felt like our team needed to follow a meta, it was just pure execution of whatever comp your team had

in overwatch it feels like you need 2 tanks 2 supports 2 dps or you lose or people will bitch and whine about muh meta
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>>382944132
>Roadhog is bad before the Ana meta
>Roadhog is bad after the Ana meta
>Roadhog is "OP" during the Ana meta
>the problem is therefore clearly Roadhog
gg shitter
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>>382944183
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>he plays Overwatch
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>>382930464
Ana hasn't been a must pick for like a couple of months.
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>>382944295
You didn't play TF2 competitively then. TF2 sixes is even more rigid than Overwatch is.
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>>382927108
>forced to pick tank/support characters.
Who the fuck is forcing me? I play what I want.
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>>382927108
It's not fucking fair. If I pick before you, you should fill the last roles. At least send a message in chat telling me you're a retard who can't play tank/support.
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>>382944339
?
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>>382944296
>Roadhog main is now upset he has to get good at the game
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>>382931325
Orisa if you are smart with the ball man
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>>382944635
TF2 6's is more symptomatic of a competitive scene evolving out of community preference rather than how it was actually geared for.

TF2 is designed for 12 vs 12. The earliest they ever flirted with anything resembling a competitive format is Highlander where you obviously know what's going to be in play.

When there's only 6 people per team, the game is obviously going to trend towards the most generalist classes.
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>>382927845
More like the biggg headshot box
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>>382944635
I didn't play comp TF2 but the thing is even casual modes in OW like quick play and arcade mode are filled with people who want to follow the meta and they get mad when someone doesn't.
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>>382944773
This so fucking much
>never get the chance to dps
>find match lock in tracer
>team proceeds to pick hanzo, genji, mccree,sym, and rein
Just once you retards just once, I get gold elims as zen, I'll dps circles around teammates.
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>>382943357
roadhog was just horibly designed to begin with, you dont make a tank with the pick potential of a sniper
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>>382939061
Oh shit, that might've been me (or maybe this is a common occurrence), Ana ulted me a few games ago and I didn't understand what the shit she was expecting me to do, guess it wasn't intentional.
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people who chose first are equally at fault, since they also could've picked a tank or support but didn't. picking first doesn't mean you get to be excused from team play.

winning the game is everyone's job, not just the guy who picked last because he loaded into the game a second or two later than the offense instalocks
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>>382945219
I have a hard time believing that. The average quick play game has at least 4 DPS. Almost always a Hanzo or Widow. If there's someone telling people to switch then everyone ignores him or tells him to fuck off.
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>>382929589
>she doesn't like apple juice
future shitter detected
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Does anyone in OW threads actually even like playing Overwatch? Because the only people I see in those threads are alleged Quake/UT oldfags that ate their teeth on everything and now make it very clear how easy and shit this game is.
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>>382945276
You don't make a tank with zero tanking abilities either.
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>>382927108
>Only Play QP on console
>always fill in as healer (which I don't mind playing Lucio) or a tank
>decide to insta pick a DPS, but the team only fills in as DPS
>on Attack, there's always some faggot that picks Hanzo/Widowmaker
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Is there any way to fix this other than remove support classes from the game?
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>>382947269
Play QP and don't fucking bother.
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>>382947269
The game is such a clusterfuck of bad decisions you can't touch anything without ruining the game.
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>>382938864
>Lower than orisa
jesus christ it fucking hurts
fucking reddit ruins another hero. everyone ive seen complain about roadhog was under masters. this is exactly why they shouldn't be allowed an opinion.
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>>382933773
Remember that chad you hated back in highschool? The one the fugged your crush? He filled a role on his state football team :^)
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>>382943796
Just tell them to be the change they wish to see.
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>>382945225
>I get gold elims as zen
Pressing E on enemies just as they are about to die isn't hard.
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>>382935262

>everyone below 4.2k sr is equally bad at the game

Have you even tried playing less than 600 sr games?

It's ridicolous to the point where you can piss around and not help your team in any way, essentially having a 5v6, and you team still wins in the end.

Imagine the same in 4.2k sr and you'll be banned by everyone in the game within microns. A 5v6 at that level is always, without fail, a loss.

So best thing is, super low level players can play and enjoy comp and actually win while against the odds compared to high level players who are delicate flowers and if they don't always play in a 5 or 6 man squad to win every game, will ragequit and shit on the game.
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>>382927108
Always entertaining to see shit players and quick play only players complain. If you are not in masters you are garbageo
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>>382948767
I am but fuck Hanzo/Widow mains on Attack
Fucking useless
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>not going Zenyatta and getting gold elims and healing anyway
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>>382927108

I liked to play tank. Not much of a support guy. But yeah, you get shoehorned into it... every asshole in the world instalocks DPS. And as someone struggling in elo hell... most people fucking SUCK at it.
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Once and for all, does this game limit you to an average of 50/50?
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>>382948995

They are arguably better on attack than they are on defense.
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>>382949602

Yes, it tries. If it wasn't trying to keep you at 50/50, it would be placing you with and against people massively outside of your skill range one way or the other.
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>Forced
>Implying Symmetra, Zen, Winston, and Zarya aren't the best heros in the game
You were not meant for greatness
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>>382949840
when will it be torbs turn to be the best?
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>>382927252
>1 apm: the character
>fun
lmao
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>>382950049

Torb is only viable when the team plays around him. Trying to keep your turret up is impossible when the rest of the team is neither shielding it, nor distracting enough to take the heat off. Level 2, it barely does any damage. Level 1 isn't even worth putting up. Even when you molten core, the level 3 turret isn't out-damaging other DPS.
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this is the only way to play
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>>382950139
>nothin personel kid.
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>>382950279
They probably leave him so weak because if they buff torb to the point that he's viable it'll make the whole chokepoint problem OW has way worse.
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