SMO confirmed for casual shit.

women have won

>>382926409
A Mario game being casual!?
I'm shocked, shocked

I'm quite happy about this.
You lose your money instead, so there's greater incentive not to die, since lives are incredibly easy to horde in other Mario games.

>>382926409
Tell me again how Mario is better than Crash, Nintenkids

>>382926409
These games throw lives at you. This makes no difference.

>>382926610
>mario has fallen to the souls meme

>>382926640
>>382926610

>Game overs are a failure of the game designer.

>>382926409
Wow a Mario game being easy as fuck? Color me surprised

>>382926409
When was the last time you even got a game over in a Mario Game?

Name the last game you played with a Game Over screen.

>oh anon why aren't you playing superior Japanese games?
See what you cucks encourage?

>>382926409
Game Overs are a dumb remnant from the arcade era, they should have been removed decades ago.

>>382926409

Lives are an antiquated notion from the days of the quarter guzzling house of mouse.

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You can't game over in any Xenoblade game either, but they can be pretty brutal at times.

Game over's are irrelevant if a game has a save feature. They are merely an inconvenience at best.

>>382926640

because u wouldnt even mention crash in the last 10 years if not for the remake

>>382926409
I was pretty hyped but the more I see of this game the less I care.
I can't say I'm shocked about this though. Their games are all about accessability these days and that's not a bad thing.
As long as they have difficult areas or challenges in the game for advance players everything is fine. I just hope that level to level is more exciting than what they've shown so far. The trailers all look weird and crazy but the gameplay in the desert was super slow and boring.

>>382926847
Miku project Mirai

>>382926678
>Super Mario Odyssey is the Dark Souls of Crash Bandicoot

You'd prefer that the game send you back to the menu screen, requiring you to go back to level selection and replay the part you already played through, with all the menu transitions and loading screens in between? Rather than simply be penalized a reasonable, numerable amount on the spot?

Do you like having a game waste your time, anon?

>>382926409
Be honest, have you ever seen a game over screen in a 3D Mario game since you were a child?
The only time I can think of where this would even be a possibility is the FLUDD-less stages in Super Mario Sunshine, but they're fucking useless there because all a game-over means is that you get to do a bunch of tedious, easy bullshit to get back to the sort of challenging thing

>>382926847
Breath of the Wild

Game overs are a holdover from the arcade days. They serve no purpose now.

>>382926847

Kirby's Epic Yarn

>>382926409
Dark Souls is casual shit confirmed

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>>382926409

>The game doesn't inconvenience you by taking you to the title screen

I've never dropped a game so fucking hard.

>Mario Odyssey
>Lose ten of the billions of coins you've collected when you die.

>Every other Mario
>Lose one of the billions of lives you've collected when you die.

I don't see much of a difference.

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>>382926409
>Die in a game
>Restart at your last checkpoint or start of the level
>Get a game over
>Restart at your last checkpoint or start of the level after an unnecessary cinematic and being booted to the title screen

What's the point exactly?

But does it have some kind of super bubble that takes me to the moonie if I die a couple times in a level?

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wait but what happen if you also lose all your coins? from smo's twitter, a life is 10 coins

>>382927048
It's no Crash Bandicoot.

>>382926640
>Crash

>>382926610
>you lose your money instead

you sure do.

Mario is baby shit, I thought we knew this?

You retards get mad over anything

Whats so important about game overs? Its just a menu screen before you get back into the actual game.

>>382926409
Game overs don't mean anything these days since there's save points.

>>382926917
That's rich coming from a fan of a company that has been relying on remakes and remasters and rereleases since the Gamecube era. Their new games don't quite attract the audiences and bring the big bux, do they?

>>382926847
Nsane trilogy

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>Dark Souls didn't have game overs.
>/v/ circlejerked it for years.

>>382927110
starts you over at 999999 coins

Rayman Origins doesn't have a life or game over system and it's one of the best platformers of the modern age. We've already well established this doesn't have any effect on the games quality negatively, it can even make a game better.

This is a good decision.

>>382926409
Prince of Persia was ahead of its time.

>>382927202
Call me when you finish Champion's Road, the Perfect Run, the Impossible Pack and NSMBU's Challenges, you dirty casual.

I have a fix for this. Write "GAME OVER :(" on a piece of card, and every few deaths hold it in front of the TV and stare at it for a few seconds before you restart, just like you would have done if it had a Game Over screen except with less menu loading.

>>382927180
Under rated post.

>>382926678
games have being doing shit like that since before the souls games you autistic fuck

>>382926409
Mario has always been casual you fucking retard

>>382926409
There wasn't one in SM64 either.

Game Overs haven't meant a single thing since the N64.
There's literally no reason to use them in any game nowadays. Not even lives. They're useless and arbitrary, they don't even punish the players.
It's just a screen that pops up to say "Hey! Remember when dying in games meant something!?"

>>382927180
Over rated post.

>>382926847
Shantae Half-Genie Hero (but only on hardcore cuz that game is easy as fuck otherwise)

>>382926610
"This is the dark souls of bing bing wahoo!" - ign

>>382926943
oh cool nintendo fans confirmed for 12 year old reddit browsing trump retards

>>382927180
Aptly rated post

>>382927558
There was but it was fucking pointless because it just booted you back to the front of the castle so you waste more time getting back to the level.

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>>382927557
>Hasn't actually played any NES/SNES Mario games

Some levels on SMB3 are hard as fuck you little twerp.

>>382926409
Then what happens when you run out of coins?

Dark souls doesn't have game overs either and people still say it's le hardcore game xd.

>>382927456

Literally baby tier compared to actual platformers

>>382927684

fun is better than difficulty and Trump is the World Leader so show him some fucking respect.

Must have a reason why they do this
But / v / always retarded as always

>>382926409
It was fucking difficult to get a game over in Galaxy if you didn't try hard enough

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Do people think this is a bad thing?

Lives are a horribly outdated game mechanic, thank fuck games are starting to get rid of that system

>>382927571
but anon I need my arbitrary lives system so I can feel like I accomplished something. I never finished the new rayman games because of this

>>382926409
actual game over screens haven't been seen in anything that isn't "retro" in ages, multiple lives too.

shovel knight didn't even have it

>>382927671
>bing bing wahoo!
when will this meme die.

>>382927898

You get so many lives in Mario games these days that game overs are basically pointless. Literally the only ones complaining about the sir people who haven't played a Mario game since the SNES era, and even then lives were handed out like candy.

>>382927825
You haven't even played them, but ok, I'll bite. Enlighten me.

>>382926409
if you weren't brain dead you wouldn't get a game over in a mario game in the first place

>>382927995
>thinks it'll ever die
YIPPEEE! AH HA HA!!!!

Kirby's Epic Yarn did this 7 years ago

All they mean is they're using the checkpoint system like everyone already knew. If you die you get sent back to the checkpoint and you don't keep your progress made.

>>382927180
Fucking roasted nintenqueers

>>382927358
>That's rich coming from a fan of a company that has been relying on remakes and remasters and rereleases since the Gamecube era
So Sony?

>>382927684
Those 12 years old have beaten you ass. Badly.

>>382927829
Good lord I knew this place was full of casuals, but everything about your post is frightening.

>>382927995
With Charles Martinet

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>>382926409

64 and Sunshine have game overs. Why Odyssey cant get the same mechanic?

>>382926409
>He actually thinks lives are a good mechanic when every game autosaves a million fucking times

>>382926409
Game Overs didn't matter jack shit in Super Mario 64 too since lives were literally useless.

If you die you got kicked out of the painting, if you got got a game over nothing changed since you could save anytime.
You basically had infinite lives.

Game Overs in SM64 literally do nothing besides make you run back to the level... why would you possibly want that?

>>382928209
>Why Odyssey cant get

Shut the fuck up you stupid beaner.

I'm fine with it, since i have never got game over-screen in Mario game.

When's the last time you saw the game over screen in a Mario game, Anons?

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>>382926640
>>382926917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uECoK93D5uo

>>382927031
kek

>>382926409
what point was there to gameovers anyway? you'd just restart with a new batch of 1ups and continue where you were

>>382926847
Route C of NieR: Automata

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>Getting a Game Over in a Mario game

>>382928032
I haven't played any platformer mario games past sunshine besides nsmb for wii so I'm very uninformed on these things

>>382927386

YOU DIED is the same as GAME OVER

>>382928284
There is actually one place lives matter in 64, during the Bowser stages.
The pipe right before you fight Bowser counts as that game's only checkpoint.

Getting thrown out of the world in sunshine and 64 always broke the flow, but I still think there should be some punishment

>>382928204

lul whatever you say faggot

>>382928365
Old games were pretty short so a cheap way to make people keep playing the same game was kicking them to the start of it with game overs.
Doesn't matter if you played perfectly but there's just that one bit you can't pass through, play the game again.

Arcades of course love this system since you could just buy a new credit instead of starting from scratch

>>382928284
Every 3D Mario game

Normal death: go back to checkpoint
Game over death: go back to start of level

>>382928452
No, it's not. You don't go back to the title screen.

>>382928209
Spongebob posters at this point are worse than dumb frogposters.

>>382926409
Game Over screens aren't good though. They just break the flow of the game by wasting time showing a 10 second scene saying game over. It would also be retarded for an open world game like SMO to have a game over screen because it's not like it'll send you back to the beginning or something.

>>382926409
I'm very happy that it's this way because I've been brainwashed to agree with everything Nintendo does. If your screenshot is fake, I'm happy too.

>>382926409
As if getting a game over means shit in a modern game anyway

>>382926847
Huniecam Studio, literally today.

couldn't care less, not that i'm buying a switch though until this game shows stuff like the warios and daisys and rosalinas and stuff from paper mario

but game overs haven't mattered since like
the end of nes mario era

i mean super mario world had a save feature and you could easily hoarde 1-ups there

at least in smb3 if you're forced to continue, you have to replay every course in the world you died in, and i think you lose your items

A game over in Super Mario Bros is exactly what it says. Game over. Start from the beginning. In Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Mario World it's back to the start of the current world. In the other games it's no different than losing a life. Irrelevant since the 1990s.

The lives system is a pointless and archaic tradition.

I'm not defending the new Mario game, it'll be boring and generic trash, but the lives system needs to be abolished at this point for all games.

>>382927097
To be fair, in at least the New Super Mario for DS, a game over makes you start from the last save, and you can only save after beating either the middle world tower, or the world castle.
So you may lose a bunch of levels of progress.

Since getting new lives is so stupidly easy and Mario isn't a hard game really, it doesn't matter.

>>382926847

hollow knight

>>382926409
Have live's ever really mattered in 3D mario games? Game over's in SM64 and Sunshine would just make you spend a minute or two running back to the level they made zero difference in the grand scheme of things besides needing to re-play a bowser stage in SM64 if you game over at him. Banjo-Tooie removed lives that Kazooie had for this same reason they only existed to make you walk back to stage when you would game over.

They actually served a purpose is older 2D mario games.

>>382928704

>Spongebob posters

I´m sorry, i forget /v/ only allow anime girls and samurai jack reaction faces

>>382926409
Leak where Mario dies in the beginning confirmed fake

>>382926409
Mario games are games for little children, did you seriously they'd be Dark Souls-like?

>>382929032

There is some tricky bullshit Sunshine can throw at you to be honest.

>>382929086
It's been 20 years, let that kiddie cartoon go anon

>>382926917
S A V A G E
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>>382929136
>Mario games are games for little children,
>says as he plays a game with a cartoon bandicoot in it
End yourself right now.

>>382926409
This entire thread reminds me of when Nintendies were saying "oh E3 doesn't actually matter" when they didn't do a conference last year

>>382926409
Just because you don't game over doesn't mean you can't die.
FFS there are death compilations on Youtube already.

when was the last time a game over did anything but make you waste time going back to the main menu?

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>>382929324
I'm not a Sonybro ok.

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>>382926409
Crash has won.

>>382926409
Ugh just fucking kill me. David Cage fucking won
>>382926610
>You lose your money instead
Yet another Souls clone

>>382928452
So Odyssey HAS game overs, then?

Because if you die in here, you respawn at the checkpoint and it costs you some of your coins.

What's the difference?

>>382928452
YOU DIED is same as TOO BAD

>>382926943
HELLO THIS IS CNN AND WE HAVE TRACKED YOU DOWN ANONA**HOLELEGION AND YOU BETTER DELET THAT NOW OR ELSE

>>382929032

I'm sure even if there were game overs and it would take you to the menu in Super Mario Odyssey, you would still be able to teleport to the checkpoint flags. The levels are big, and the checkpoints are the start of new routes, which is basically a new level within the course.

>>382928452
The game literally is not over when you die, dying's actually is a feature since you lose things and need to go back to get it, it's not even a check point system since you don't go back in time and just respawn, YOU DIED is so far from being anything close to a GAME OVER you would need to be a complete retard to thing otherwise.

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>>382927180

>get game over
>hit continue
>game isnt over

Fuck, I was actually looking forward to this too.

>>382929407
What are you playing on PC? Undertale?

>>382927358
>a company that has been relying on remakes and remasters and rereleases
Kek that's literally Sony you fucking retard.

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>>382926409
>playing the hardest mario level ever
>die over 700 times
dont get a game over

You fucking retards didnt know it was over before it ever started. Perfect Run and Champions Road dont even give you game overs since you can literally amass hundreds of lives easily. Super Mario World was the last mario with save points where game overs actually mattered.

All game overs do in modern mario is make you loose your checkpoints. The file saves after every level anyways. Guess what doesnt work in SMO the same? Checkpoints.

Now to let the parrots ignore everything,

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>>382929692
Japanese games mostly.

>>382929680

You have to be a literal retard if you care so much about going back to the menu after dying a certain amount of times rather than returning to the checkpoint flag. The courses are too big, and the flags are the start of every new objective within the courses

Wario Land 3 did this well. They're probably doing something similar.

>>382926409
Lives are an antiquated game mechanic anyway

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>constant bitching between crash and mario fans
>don't realize that 2017 is finally going to be a great year for platformers all around

come on boys

>>382929927
you can game over in wario land 3

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>>382927180

>>382929843
I see those are some truly mature games. Oh, wait, they aren't.

When's the last time you got a game over in a Mario game? Honestly. And what would they do? Erase your data and make you start again?

Anyone who actually gives a shit about no game overs hasn't played a 3D Mario platformer.

>>382929782
To be fair, modern 2D Mario makes them matter a little, because NSMB games still only save when you get to castles, AFAIK.
3D Mario never had a use for lives though.

>>382926409
>implying game overs ever mattered in any 3D mario

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Game Overs are pointless in ANY game with saving. This is a fact. You lose all your lives, and guess what? You get sent back to the title screen. Oh no what a punishment. I have to navigate the little save menu for 3 seconds and boop, I'm right back where I was before I died. Wow, that was such a minorly pointless inconvenience!

Yeah, good riddance. It'll make Sonic Mania and Crash N Sane feel archaic.

>>382927180
BTFO

>>382929435
Here.
Crash has won HERE. What does that say about its future now?

>>382930032
Don't be a retard. Most of those games are NOT child-friendly at all. They are either very violent or very erotic. If you let your wife's daughter play these game you are likely a bad person and/or a pedophile trying to groom her.

>>382926409
Nintendo found a worse way to punish failure
Having to live poor is a fate worse than death

I can't believe how retarded /v/ is.
Lives have been an "issue" in Mario games for a while because it's very simple to get an overstock of them and they end up being a meaningless feature.
By taking away your currency (implying it has a real use), there's an actual punishment for dying instead of a inconsequential momentary setback which doesn't ever occur for 99% of people who play the game.
This is highly innovative by Nintendo's standards.

>>382926989
You joke, but I wouldn't put it past moder game journalists

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>>382928704
Sure they are.

>>382929971
>console warriors are console warring
you have a better chance of ending hostilities between palestine and israel

>>382930178
Adult doesn't mean mature, you retard.

You could see in E3 that even when you die there is a set enough of coins for another try.
Sucks, but that is this age of gaming where everything needs to be easier. Unless there is some difficulty level for post-game or when you finish once

>>382926610
>money

There are still called coins

>>382930325
Says the manchild who still buy toys for children.

>>382930404
Coins are used as money for once in this game, so it's not really wrong to call coins money in this case.

>>382927684
Right one piece of anecdotal evidence confirms your bias. 4chan is full of actual idiots.

>>382930404
>this age of gaming where everything needs to be easier
Oh, yeah, I remember how difficult it was to game over in Mario 64. I had to go to the file select screen and enter the castle again. It was a real tough time.

>>382930404
Tell me exactly, what is the correlation between lives and gamepvers and difficulty?

Some of the hardest games have no lives and if they do they throw lives at you.

Lives literally haven't mattered since the arcade days and having lives doesn't make a game more difficulty or easy.

>>382930404
The difficulty comes from getting all the coins and moons

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>>382927180

>>382926409

Game overs are too video game-ey. Let's just do away with them in general.

>>382930178
i don't think anybody would mistake you for a mature, responsible adult for playing senran kagura

>>382930195
This

>>382930525
>Uh oh! I got told! better try to move the goalpost!
Really mature, like everything you do.

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>>382927180

>>382930730
>>382930638
Stop posting, manchild.

>>382928941
Kill yourself

>>382929407
>>382929843
>Has a high end system, especially GPU End
>Only plays fucking jap shit that can be played on a toaster - mid range system
For what fucking purpose? I really hope you fucker are at least using the CPU to something useful and not just browsing the internet or some shit.

Thiis like some kid having a GTX 1080 SLI System and the fucker only plays god damn Mineshit

>>382930685
Is

>>382926640
How are these games even comparable? Tried Crash Bandicoot and it was just some 2d sidescroller bullshit generic platformer, what the fuck is wrong with you people thinking it's even close to the same as a 3D Mario game

>>382930967
>manchild
I guess it really takes one to know one.

I thought they were doing a kinda dark souls thing with your money

>>382928161
>>382929693
>b-but sony

>>382928452
Not

Even

Close

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>>382927180
Nintendofags BTFO

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>>382926989
>>Super Mario Odyssey is the Dark Souls of Crash Bandicoot

as a nin10drone that loves taking nintendos fat hairy cock in my asshole i am ok with this because when a company i like fucks me over it is ok

>>382931214
>Sony game as a comparison
>B-but Sony
doesn't work here

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>>382927180
good job anon

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>>382931113
SPARTA

>>382926996
I had about one or two game overs in SMG1 and 2. And constant game over screens on the final secret levels of SMG2 and 3D World. Linear level design, I think, gives lives a purpose for existing, especially one with a checkpoint system in place. They are pretty redundant in 64 and the open parts of Sunshine though.

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>>382926409
Game overs are a failure of the game designer

>>382930592
>>382930592
>>382930592
>>382930592
>>382930592
>>382930592
You niggers can't even answer me.

>>382931490
>i don't suck, it's the game that sucks!
average nindrone

>>382926847
I got my first non-standard game over in Disgaea 5 last night.

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>>382926409
Game-overs and one-ups served absolutely no purpose in previous 3D Mario titles. You died a lot, you game-overed, and then what? You went back and died a lot. There was no consequence to dying beyond having to do things over again.
In SMO, you lose coins when you die, and the trailers show that you can also spend your coins on costumes and various shit. That's already a much bigger penalty than dying and starting at the last checkpoint, or getting a game over and starting at the beginning. Dying means you lose currency, as opposed to previous Mario games where you lost literally nothing when you died or game-overed.

>>382927180
>>382927180
>>382927180
>>382927180
>>382927180

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>>382927180
Now their only response will be:
>B-BUH SONY

>>382926997
>dying is game over

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>>382931508
Thats because they would rather pretend so they can keep shitposting.

>>382931430
>tfw i had over 1000 lives in SM3DW when I got to champions road
>lost 700 of them
I didnt game over though.
Perfect run was stupid easy for me though.

>>382926847
Crash Bandicoot Nsane Trilogy

>>382926409
What would getting a game over even mean in this day and age? Getting kicked back to the main menu? So what, you'd just reload your last save and it'd just be a more cumbersome way of simply respawning after death.

>>382931650
>>382931650
>>382931650

Are there any games where getting a game over is actually a huge hassle and meant something?

>>382926847
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

>>382931962
yeah try something that's not nintendo

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>>382927180
i dont get it

>>382927180
I don't get it

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>>382927180

>no lives
>you lose money instead
We already knew it was casualized shit. Why do people keep supporting Nintendo games? They get easier and easier every year

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>>382931789
>Literal Game Over text appears on screen
>NUH HUH DOESN'T COUNT NOT A GAME OVER
Who game over'd and made you overseer of what is and isn't a game over?

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>>382927180

>mario game turns out to be casual garbage
>"mario games were ALWAYS casual garbage"
As long as we're all in agreement that nintendo is the casual option for casual gamers.

>>382927180
Put me in the screencap.

>>382926847

Persona 5 has one I think

>>382926409
So, roughly as casual as any Souls game?

>>382927180
This is going straight to r/4chan!

>>382932127
You just died. Game overs don't exist in console games with no lives anon.

>>382927180
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA NINTENDONIGGERS BTFO HAHAHA A THE SWITCH IS A FUCKING JOKE

>>382931430
>>382931790
it was so easy to farm infinite lives in 3DW though, what the hell?

>>382932064
you lost money by paying for a video game

>>382926847
I wouldn't know since I'm not a fucking casual that loses.

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>>382927180
fucking kekd

>>382932219
you ruined it Summerfag

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>>382927180
fuck

>>382932110
>lose all lives
>game gives you more lives
Go back to the arcade pep pep.

>>382926847
Final Fantasy XV

>>382932235
>farm in mario

I said I had over 1000 just from playing the game anon. It was stupid as hell.
Didnt matter anyways because CR has no checkpoints.

>>382927180
BUT SOOOOOOOOONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>382926847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM0hTznNVU4

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>>382926409
Good. There is no 3d Mario game where lives or gameovers matter at all. You lose nothing except you start at the hub world and have to go back to the level, which takes no more than 30 seconds and is tedious.

>>382926409
There's no point to game overs anymore. You're not feeding quarters into an arcade machine, there's really no reason for your game to just end because you fucked up. It was understandable in the NES and SNES days because, at the time, that was just how games worked. Now, the idea of lives and game overs is archaic.

>>382927180
>>382932397
>>382932276
God, sonygers are so fucking lame.

>>382932372
by "farm" i mean locking a shell into an infinite jump and letting it run for 2 minutes

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>>382932452
Drones on full blast today

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Why is it okay for Rayman to not have lives and game overs but when Mario does it it's a horrible evil terrible thing?

>>382932317
kys nintendocuck

>>382926409
If you ever saw a game over screen in a mario game then you need to seriously git gud

>>382932589
I never lives are a pointless system that means fuck all in modern times

>>382932595
go back to sleep summerfag

>>382931962
Look at this save babby.

>>382927180
Is this what this board counts as a mass reply worthy post now? Holy fuck /v/ has fallen.

>>382932614
t. hasn't played a Mario game before 64

>>382926547
spbp

Still gonna play the fuck out of it.

>>382932580
Stay mad, son. I've been playing video games since 1989, and if there's one thing I'm thankful for with modern games it's not having to deal with an arbitrary system of lives/continues/game overs.

Souls games don't have game overs, does that mean those games are casual now?

>>382932589
>Nintendo does something that is okay
>army of detractors chanting "It's not okay when Nintendo does it"

>Nintendo does something that is not okay
>army of apologists chanting "it's okay when Nintendo does it"
This instance is the former.

>>382932472

>B-but Sony

Like clockwork.

>>382926409
Why are people mad at this? Do people still like boss fights too?

>>382926847
bayonetta

Nobody really complained when PoP did it past initial scepticism. Guess everything's gotta be an outrage now for gen x.

>>382932871
more like cockwork

>>382926409
Good. You don't need it in Mario games.

>>382927180
This should be illegal

>>382926847
YOU DIED

>>382927180

Unironically this.

>>382927180
Ayy got him

>>382927180
DELET

>>382932589
Because it's NEVER ok only if it's Nintendo.

>>382933092
How is that a game over?

>>382932489
How much time is lost watching a game over screen and reselecting Champion's Road every five lives compared to farming 1110 lives?

>>382927180
ayyyy

Lives are fine in a game with a classic linear stage progression, you get a game over and you start from the beginning/last save point. But for games with stage selection like crash or the 3D marios they are kinda pointless and even a burden, since you can just go back to an earlier stage to farm lives and usually the game doesn't harm your progression if you get a game over so if you have less than the default number of lives and want to try a hard stage is easier just to kill yourself so the life counter resets.

>>382930404
well they're selling a hard mode for zelda
maybe they'll pull the same shit for mario

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>>382927180

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One of the best games ever made doesn't have Game Overs either.

>>382933221
>>382933221
probably a lot of time would be saved just by having the lives

i mean it literally takes 2 minutes to get infinite lives by going in that little tunnel once you get into the underground in the very second level

you basically keep hopping on a shell several times a second until your lives hit max

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>>382927180
alright thats it

>>382926847
spyro the dragon 2 and kingdom hearts 1

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>>382926409
Game Over screens have been irrelevant for over a decade. This isn't surprising.

Game overs are a pointless time waster unless the game has permadeath.

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>>382926547
wew how did we fall so far

crash better than mario confirmed.

>>382927180
>>382933165
>>382933093
>>382933278

I'm done. I'm just fucking done. Neo/v/ is unsalvagable if garbage like thsi is what people consider "sick burns" now.

I'm honestly shocked at the current state of this website. Yeah, we made console war jokes sometimes, but it was all fun, right? At the end of the day, we all bought a WIi U, we all donated to Reggie, and we all opposed sonygros. But now? Our entire fucking site is subverted because of fucking ponies..

The internet is OUR platform. the NINTENDO platform. Movies, QTES, David Cage, were all confirmed to be left in the past because millenials are the most pro-nintendo generation of all time. So why in the FUCK, do we still have to deal with sony defenders IN TWENTY-FUCKING-SEVENTEEN? Despite how much you wanna cry about how it's just a conspiracy and a boogeyman, Neogaf IS real, and this site is proof. We went from one of the most nintendo-centric sites in the world to supporting Kaz Fucking Hirai? Nah, that's not normal progression because people only get more Nintendo fan with age, just like how you get smarter with age.

Threads like these just show that we need MUCH more strict moderation around here. I'm sick of all of this shit. Fuck Ponies, Fuck Blooddrones, Fuck Hirai, Fuck Yoshida, Fuck White Pride, and FUCK DUDEBROS. Just fucking nuke this site already.

>>382926847
Zelda II

Makes sense, lives never made any sense after M64, there was no penalty anyway if you had a game over. If you were shit enough to lose all your lives that is. I've never had a game over in a 3D mario game, why even include them? Why even include lives? Pointless.

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>>382933491
Yes it does.

>>382933984
Half of them are samefag. Been happening all week with stuff like that, like in a spongebob game thread.

But half are also legit since the IP count is rising.

>>382926847
Metroid: Zero Mission

>>382926409
When was the last time anyone got a game over in a new Mario game, though? No, seriously, when does that ever happen? I don't even think children die that often.

>>382933984
tha fact you made this proves that was a sick burn

Glad they're going the Super Meat Boy route.

>Muh lives!!!

whens the last time you got a game over in a mario game you fuckin shitters.

I have no problem with this, but anyone that has a problem with Game Overs are casual cancer.

Fact is it gives investment of lose, even if that is time.

>>382933984
Nice pasta

>>382928181
>t. underaged trump supporter

>>382928032
>You get so many lives in Mario games these days

Getting extra lives has never been particularly hard in Mario games.

>>382934417
And yet they still had to remove them. Makes you wonder what direction Nintendo is heading in.

>>382927180
this >>382927579
but as someone that actually likes nintendo, i still had a chuckle

>>382934514
>Glad they're going the Super Meat Boy route.
If you die in Super Meat Boy you have to start the whole level over. Every death is a game over.

>>382934514
I game over all the time playing SM64,the thing is it makes 0 differences apart from having to run around the castle more

>>382926547
I found SMB3 more difficult than Dark souls.

>>382934514
>You're a shitter if you don't die.
What?

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>>382928452
then whats the equivalent of this?

>>382928964
>So you may lose a bunch of levels of progress.

That's dumb though. You've already proven you can beat those levels. Forcing you to replay them is just a waste of your time.

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>>382926409
well since when has been getting a game over in a Mario game past 3 done anything other than put you back to your last save game?
>lose a life, restart level
>game over, press continue,restart level from overworld

Be real, does this change anything now?

>>382934721
Super Meat Boy levels are so short they might as well be check points. You really get jewed over semantics lmao

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>>382926409
>no game overs
>have to redo a level if you fail
>if you can't complete the level you can't continue

>NO GAME OVERS IS CASUAL

fucking idiots

>>382934721
A game over resets either the whole world or the entire game you mong

>>382932589
>die in rayman
>start over
>die in odyssey
>respawn 5 feet away with less coins

did anyone watch the gameplay videos?

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>>382934609
Lets see.

With a game over
>you have lives
>you gain too many in a level all the time
>you never game over
OR
>you have lives
>you lose them as you get further
>you loose the last one but it doesnt matter besides making you press load file and waste 5 seconds because checkpoints are fast travel now anyways

So how is adding 5 seconds of loading make the game better again?
>yfw snoyfags cant stand that a game has less loading than them

>>382934146
Fact is a life system soly matters on the level design aspect built around one.

you still die, so whatever. game overs became pointless with the death of arcades

>>382926409
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>382934609
That's my point. The mechanic is entirely pointless, extra lives haven't meant a thing for the longest time. If they aren't going to do things the old way - which they clearly aren't, then they might as well just remove them entirely.

And for what it is worth, you need to rely on coins in this game more than others, because you have spend them in shops to obtain things. I have no idea how far losing 10 coins per death will set you back, though. We'll have to wait and see.

Name a recent game with a Game Over that actually means anything.

Im plyaing mighty gunvolt, no game overs here either and the game is hard and a lot of fun
Game overs are a relic of the arcade age, we dont need them anymore.

The DQ series also has no game overs, never did.

>>382926409
>every mario game lets you save after getting a star
>WOOOW wtf having no lives totally matters
nigga

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>>382928704
>sponge worst than KYM frogposters

>>382934898
Okay, then by that definition there hasn't been a single game with game overs in decades. Obviously you're retarded and that isn't what Nintendo meant since none of their recent Mario titles did this, otherwise they wouldn't have needed to clarify, plus the gameplay footage of mario just respawning a few feet away and losing coins when he 'dies.'

>>382927180
Fukin hell

>>382934852
this is the problem with games, there needs to be some kind of incentive not to die, but mostly that just means time wasted and inconvenience.

like in just cause 3 you can suicide bomb shit to make some progress and theres no penalty except youre now standing 100 feet from where you died. sometimes thats a nice feature, but running wildly into battle with no regard for your own life shouldnt be the best startegy

on the other hand there are many games where you can lose hours of progress, especially if its manual save only or to a lesser extent a really bad checkpoint system.

where do we find the balance, bros?

>>382926847
Metroid Samus Returns

>>382926847
metroid prime
metroid prime fucked me over

Apparently you lose coins when you "die" now. So if you suck you finish the level with no coins. Pretty good idea desu. Shitters can badplay their way through the game, and pros can shoot for high scores. Nintendo could even make it so you need so many coins to unlock new areas or upgrades to enforce a minimum level of competency.

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>>382934852
>Forcing you to replay them is just a waste of your time.
Then don't die, and you won't have to replay them

>>382926409
Mario has always been casual shit

>>382933984
SO MUCH THIS


can we get the mods or whoever to just ban Sony and their retard fan base from the site?

>>382935039
Its a fundamentally bad game design move. If there is no threat of losing progress a lot of the tension and challenge of the game dissipates. If you die in a level you should restart it, otherwise the game is just a glorified walking simulator.

>>382927180
Damn

>>382926847
Jackie Chan Stuntmaster

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>>382926409
>get game over
>nothing actually changes from a normal death other than you see the words game over and have to make your way back from the title screen

The only Mario games to actually punish you in any substantial fashion with a game over were Donkey Donkey Picnic and Mario 3 on the NES (even then, both had quick to reach warps) and maybe Galaxy 2 if you gave a rats ass about having twinkling stars on your save file.

Not even the first SMB or the direct sequel sent you back to level 1 on Game Over (unless you had no friends and didn't know about the A button trick).

>>382926994
This anon gets it.

All game overs in past Mario games are simply extra loading time, this is a good way to cut that shit out while still including a death penalty. >>382926610

I picked up Galaxy 2 recently and I think the game overs are retarded as fuck since your earned lives reset every time you turn off the game.

>>382926847
https://youtu.be/EXmtzPnuKSc

>>382935248
I'd rather not buy butchered remakes thanks

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>>382927180
NINTENDO BTFO, THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>>382935401
>No threat of losing progress
But there aren't checkpoints in the platforming segments of the game, which means if you die while platforming, you still lose the progress you made in those segments.
Even if Odyssey had a game over, all of its "checkpoints" are also fast travel points, so it would literally just be an inconvenience at worst with no lost progress.

>>382934927
Rayman has checkpoints, though. so it's just as evil and casual as Mario.

>>382926996
Shitty controlled timed ball levels in SMG2

>>382935705
>Even if Odyssey had a game over, all of its "checkpoints" are also fast travel points, so it would literally just be an inconvenience at worst with no lost progress.
Its almost like Odyssey is a bad game.

>>382926847
Dishonored 2

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>>382926409
>A mario game not having game over means it's a casual game
>Not the fact that it is a mario game is enough to consider it a casual kids game
>OP is retarded enough to make this thread

>>382926610
>new Super Mario bros Wii
>there is actually a goal of getting 99 marios
>all it unlocks is Mario without his hat

Agreed. Not once have a gotten a game over in a Mario game since SMB3.

Besides, losing coins brings out the inner jewish among people in that they are OK with dying but not losing their money.

>>382935592
>game overs
>in galaxy 2
Holy fuck git gud

>>382935871
Seriously. Dying once should completely reset the game and erase all of your save files, then gaming will truly be saved from the disgusting casuals destroying our hobby.

>>382935871
>This game doesn't force me to waste my time backtracking through places I've already gone through?
>This is bad game design!

>>382935871
>even if Mario 64 had game overs it would just take you to the castle entrance and only make you spend 20 seconds going back into the level that already has secret fast travel points to get around the small as fuck levels
Its almost like your a faggot that doesnt like 3D mario.

>>382933925
>Super Mario Land
>not one of the easiest Marios

As a five year old I beat that shit in a few short car trips and thinking "That's it?"

I hope crash saves the game industry.

>>382936007
Explain how that's a bad thing

>>382935963
>brings out their inner jew
>there will be an increase in skilled millennial players because they don't want to lose any of their hard earned shekels

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>>382926847
Kamidori I'M PLAYING IT RIGHT NOW

>>382926847
Smash 4

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Crash is Dark Souls and Mario is Candy Crush Saga.

>>382926409
No game overs doesn't mean no deaths. If you fuck up, you lose progress on that stage. That's how it should be anyways.

Since when is ths place Neo-gaf?

>>382936106
>I hope "style over substance" remakes that can't even get the hitbox on its main character correct saves the video game industry

>>382936154
I was agreeing with you, faggot, jesus christ why do you people need to lash out at everyone?

>>382936414
sent ;)

>>382932218
When you get a game over you get the choice of continuing from your last save file or quitting to the title screen, because Link is fucking dead after it started raining while you were scaling a huge cliff and you ran out of stamina. It's a Game Over. The only difference between that and something like SM64 is that it doesn't boot you to the title screen. It makes no difference whether you have lives or not since you'll ultimately just pick up where you left off.

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>>382936363
This place is reddit and tumblr and neo-gaf and normie central and

>>382936446
They can't even get Crash's speed right

>>382936303
>a game with lives and game overs is like a game without lives or game overs
>a mobile "puzzle" game is like a new 3D platformer
I know its hard only having ps1 games to play but at least try.

>>382926847
Binding of Isaac

>>382936446
>high road shitter

>>382926847
Virtues Last Reward.

>>382936446
Explain how the N Sane Trilogy is "Style over substance" when they spent years playing the originals in order to emulate the controls and physics as best they could because the original code was unusable.

Wario Land 2 and 3 had no game overs either and were amazing games