Fo4's factions > FNVs factions

>>382914040
There isn't even a 4 vs NV debate you fucking autist.
4 is shit, NV is the best 3D fallout. Simple as that.

What if I wanted to play a morally grey character in Fo4?

>>382914298
There are literally MSpaint comics about 4 vs Nv that get >5 (Yous) guaranteed and I see at least one thread every day made by fans of one game insulting the other.

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>>382914040
>bad character
>institute

>>382914527
Brotherhood or railroad, depending on political beliefs

>NV is the edgiest fall out in the franchise
>/v/ loves it unanimously

Really makes me think....

NV felt like a mod for fallout 3, and I could never get out of that feeling. I played it for many hours and whole game just felt like a mess.

>Kill random raider while exploring
>Can pick up their decapitated head for some reason
>"We need you to kill this raider" some hours later
>"You mean this raider's head???"
>See New Vegas on the horizon the whole game
>Finally get there
>It's a segmented garbage """"area""""(s) with two casino locations and a bunch of gay bullshit
>genuinely terrible dancing/performing mocap
>elvis gang

I don't know why people love it so much. I'm thinking because with Obsidian back in the seat they felt more at home with it, but I honestly have always thought it sucked, and this is straight up not bait.

Having said all that though, F4 was pretty disappointing too desu, but definitely not "shit".

>>382914792
shit bait

>>382914707
>We are stuck up MIT kids who are so enlightened by our intelligence and acceptance into a prestigious college that we can replace people for robots for shits and giggles
>good

>>382914957
I promise it isn't. It's just how I think of the game. Feel free to change my opinion with reasons that it's actually good instead of the usual chatter about how much the other options suck so by default it must be the best.

>>382915049
>Im a hippy that prefers to live surrounded by giant mosquitos and cockroaches just because some fucking ROBOTS are sentient and I want them freed

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>>382914527
Simple, buy my game.

>>382914040

>NV's realism take away from RP, unless you want to be a maximum edgelord

NV's realism allows for even more RP possibility than 4, since 4 is basically just Lawful Good or Neutral Evil.

Starting a fallout 4 survival hardcore run

Decide my build pls, that isn't sneak attack sniper boringness

>>382915450
It's not that I want them freed dumbass. It's that they are committing random act of murder on flesh and blood people to put the robots there in the first place. You'd have better odds surviving radroaches every day than a synth courser/assassin once a year

You can't RP in 4. It's just an open world shooter.

How do people get around the whole parent thing in 4?

Its really jarring when you try to forget about it and then some dialog talks about your son.

>>382915786
The RR faction is somewhere on the chaotic spectrum for sure.

In FNV, House and NCR are both lawful neutral, the Legion is lawful evil, and YM is chaotic neutral. Just as bad numerically, made worse because good is out of the spectrum.

I would accept this more easily if fallout was still nobledark, but its come a long way since then.

>>382915931
That wouldnt happen to me because I would join the institute.
With us or against us.

>>382914040
Of all the things you could argue Fallout 4 did right, I seriously don't think it was the factions.
I don't know if it was they were too morally gray or more the fact that they have no redeeming qualities other than maybe their main goal if you believe in it.

>Railroad has the worst and most dislikeable character of the whole game and they don't care about killing thousands of people because Synths>Humans

>BoS are Nazis, like literally wouldn't be surprised if somebody poked their head in the story design department and said: "Alright guys, remember the good guys from the previous game? I read on the internet they're like xenophobes or something in those 2 games everybody loves, totally a selfish and racist thing to do. Write them as Nazis or something"

>Institute inability to let you work with other factions despite you being the director by the end of the story is almost as retarded as their synth gorilla or synth replacement project, but at least they let you chose if you wanna help or screw the commonwealth

And I can't speak for the railroad because I've never done a run with them

>>382916761
So basically you'd kill anyone not smart enough to get into MIT? At least the Enclave had good intentions

It's easier to shoot shit in Fallout 4.
But it's shooting is still pretty bad. New Vegas was more of an RPG and better at being one than 4 was at being a shooter.

Maybe I'm just spoiled after playing the new Wolfenstein's and Dooms but Fallout 4 still feels just as sluggish as Fallout 3 did,.

Yes and no.
Yes you cant make everyone happy in new Vegas. Whatever ending you choose someone will loose on it. But you still can try to be a good/bad person.
Factions in Vegas doesnt tell who are you. You arent a good guy or bad guy by choosing NCR/Legion. All those factions are more like diffrent governments, and which one you believe is best for mojave. You get :
>Corrupted republic
>Anarchy
>Slavery monarchy
>Authortarian capitalist
While in fallout 4 faction you choose, automaticaly choose your character. You can be
>SJW
>Slavemaster
>KIRRR ARR SYNTHS
>Another village needs our help
You cant make institue stop treating synths like slave even if you became a leader of this faction.

NV just give you options for who you want to fight. But you can still be a good or bad. In FO4 you cant be good while in istitute or bad when in railroad

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>>382914792
>>382915325
>>382914040

See >>382916271

>>382917235
OP here

Railroad is a faction that serves an audience. Daily reminder that there are people that defend a certain religion of peace suicide attacking others.

They made the BoS not a meme Mary Sue faction. It's not perfect, but its a step in the right direction and appeals to the hurr durr muh kekistan muh stormfornt audience that contrasts the railroad

What they got right was diversity. I like NV better than for by virtue of having real dialogue and skills but its infuriating seeing this same bullshit argument of 4's factions being poorly written.

The faction in 4 dont serve the same purpose as those in NV. They dont immerse you in the world, they are springboards to roleplay off

>>382914040
>New Vegas' grey factions are more immersive and realistic, but its harded to actually like them.
But that's why I like the factions in New Vegas more, I don't want some one-sided shit

>>382916271
This.

New Vegas was a roleplaying game set in Black Isle's Fallout setting. Fallout 4 was an FPS with dialog options set in Bethesda's Fallout 3 universe.

>>382917556

>Maybe I'm just spoiled after playing the new Wolfenstein's and Dooms but Fallout 4 still feels just as sluggish as Fallout 3 did,.

This right here. I always hear the explanation that Fallout 4 is meant to just be played as an open world shooter, but even on that level it just doesn't feel as good as a dedicated shootan game.

>>382918045
>Fallout 4 factions catter to identity politics, which are basically meme politics
>Fallout New Vegas' factions fight over the future of the wasteland along with being given the choice to see which ideology is more suited for the future of Vegas and the wasteland as a whole
I think we know which factions are better

>>382918634
Do our politicians nowadays cater to real politics or meme politics? Just today there was a Donald trump general on v that went over 160 posts until the mods deleted it

>>382918601
Yeah, you don't get the same feedback you get from real shooters. It's open-world aspect is worse, too. I got excited when I saw Phineal Hall, wondering if there would be a quest or community there. No, it's supermutants.
Same thing for most interesting places in the game. Just shooting.

The faction choices in 4 pretty much parallel the ones in NV

Minutemen are Yes Man, the player-controlled option that's unfailable in case you fuck all the others up

NCR and Railroad are the well-meaning but incompetent guys, the former because of bureaucracy and the latter because of lack of resources and extremely specific purpose

Brotherhood and House are the secure but morally dubious option because neither cares about anyone who isn't part of their club

Institute and Legion are the de-facto bad guys who do unreasonably evil things for poorly-justified reasons.

>>382918932

I just realized this translates into gameplay as well. The minutemen and yes man are infailiable in game and the backup faction. Preston and YM are essential characters that cant be killed.

the institute and Legion must be faced down in the final battle for every ending that is not their own.

>>382918856
Identity politics has never been a huge thing until recently, it's meme politics because it's not important and it's being pushed to cause division in society

factions in 4 are inconsequential regardless
you just choose which faction not to blow up

>>382918434

I almost want to say there isn't even a comparison between Fallout 3 and Fallout 4. They took so much life out of the game and replaced it with time-sinking features that are cool to look at and interact with, but do not make for solid building blocks to create a fun RPG.

I've lost hope in Bethesda. Next installment will probably be multiplayer with several DLCs and funny hat and outfit addons.

Anyone played survival fo4?

What build did you use?

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>can't bring the Children to the Commonwealth and purge all the non-believers

>>382918932
>House doesn't care about anyone
It's been made clear by House that he intends to take humanity to space so you can't say that he doesn't care. He's planning for the long-term

>>382914040
>Minutemen are fucking boring and annoying.
>BoS is no longer technotemplars and more military
>Railroad are a bunch of fucking idiots and I slaughtered them just because the password for their Hide is the fucking name of the faction

>>382919798
>can't actually do bad shit as a Raider
>can't go to war with the Minutemen and execute Preston Garvey
>can't roast Dogmeat for food

>>382918045
Valid points

I would argue that the problem with it is that you don't get many options regarding the outcomes you want to achieve.

The game emphasizes hard the idea that synths are just like humans, that possibly have a "soul" and you should care and help them. Yet the only faction that lets you reach this goal is the Railroad, and it only happens thru the destruction of the 2 other major factions. This faction was initially my go to because I bought the whole "Synths are just like us" idea the game shoves to you (Curie was my waifu) and yet I couldn't continue down their questline once they started requesting sabotage and destruction of other people for the sake of synths. I don't have anything about those who want to roleplay as extremists, if anything I like that this game gives you the option since I dont think there are many games that let you do that nowadays; but to not give you the option on how to approach the ultimate goal was what killed the faction for me.

Regarding the brotherhood I cant argue with it if you like the direction they are taking the faction. I admit is fun as hell to roleplay as a brotherhood knight in this game. I personally don't feel like they were "Mary sue" in previous installments, heck in NV they are a dying faction precisely because of their elitism and refusal to allow trading with the outside world. If you're talking specifically about FO3 then I believe nobody will miss the flavorless faction that it was Lyons BoS

>>382914040
>it's harder to actually like them
I guess that's why we still have threads where people argue about their favorite faction being THE ONE TRUE CHOICE FOR THE WASTELAND until bump limit.

>>382920694
I actually liked the Dance Quest. But is it just me or was Maxson a bit... dull, from his character? Also, I like the BoS as Knights, the military touch was a bit meh, but it is actuall a reasonable consequence of maxsons leaderstyle and them growing more and more power.

>>382915912
Demo/Science/Big Guns. High Int and End, Low Str, Cha, and Ag.
Don't invest into lockpicking or any medical talents.
Dose on chems often.
Enjoy playing a sturdy dummy who loves to blow shit up as efficiently as possible.

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>>382917379
>Kill everybody who wasn't part of their secret society with biological terrorism
>Good intentions
you fucking what

Got the Ultimate Edition of New Vegas earlier. What's a nice build that isn't stealth archer?

>>382922208
Luck, speech, guns, repair

>>382922208

Speech, Unarmed, Science, Explosives

The factions in fo4 all have a "with us or against us" attitude other than the minutemen and are pretty grey themselves

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>>382914040
>roleplaying
>with a voiced protag that has a set story

>>382922208

Demolition Expert is really fun.

The build I'm using now starts off with 8 luck. I'll find an in-game item that modifies your luck and I'll buy an implant to max my crit chance. I got the Light Touch perk at level 2, Cowboy at level 8 and Finesse at level 10 and used the revolver "Lucky" for the majority of the game. I crit enemies like 90% of the time and its one of my favorite weapons to aim with, if you don't mind the slow reload animation. I mitigated that by maxing my agility to 10 and getting the Rapid Reload perk.

>>382923312
FNV is an rpg because you play the role of a cowboy

>>382914792
>>It's a segmented garbage """"area""""(s) with two casino locations and a bunch of gay bullshit
What you expect for a game nerfed for consoles? Remember, they had to split Freeside and the Strip because couldn't handle it.

>>382923517

You play a courier, if you paid attention. Btw Preston is looking for you, I think he said that there's another settlement that needs help.

I think the most damning part of fallout 4 is the fact that there is essentially no replayability to it. The game is so linear in it's story and gameplay that you aren't going to really get anything new out of a second playthrough. You aren't gonna see any major new bits of story depending on what faction you pick, it just changes the skin of who's sending you out to get random bits of machinery or to kill mutants and raiders. Even the builds you can pick all start to feel the same. Guess that's why they chose to do all that scaling content and "infinite" gameplay shit, it was some attempt to trick people into sinking time into it so they don't feel as if they over paid.

Has anyone here played tactics? I've only ever seen people meme about it and I want to know if they're are any redeeming parts of it if you like the series or if I should just skip over it and pretend like it doesn't exist.

>>382922208
Unarmed, Speech, Repair
Be a fucking Greaser, get the Greased Lightning, sing about your cherry vanilla colored souped-up ride while punching people

more like fallout bore

>>382914040
Honestly I didn't think like that I joined the institute because I just inserted a little bit of myself there.
I chose the institute to honor my father who did everything for me.
I miss him dearly

>>382922069
They only wanted to kill mutants and genetically impure people. I don't agree but saying everybody is just wrong.

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>>382915325
>>382914040

What if I wanted to Play an even Minuteman?
Why should I be locked to one specific set of morals with one faction? Why cant I have more say in what my character is like seeing as this is an RPG after all.

This thread is literal cancer tier bait man cant even tell if you're being serious or you're actually autistic enough to try and say F04 is better than NV because you have LESS choice.

actually kys

>>382925879
The enclave shoots wastelanders on sight and they even kill Amata in fo3 after she runs up to them like an idiot. BoS in fo4 wants to wipe out mutants but they ignore regular humans.

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>>382926423
EVIL'

shit

>>382925879
You are wrong.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/FEV_Curling-13

>>382923517
When was it ever specified that you're a cowboy? Because you wore some ranch clothes at the beginning? How do you know you aren't some tribal or an Enclave descendant?

>>382914792
>NV felt like a mod for fallout 3
technically it was.

>>382924357
anytime I've touched the game I dropped the story as soon as humanly possible
actually had fun desu

>>382918045
>diversity
stopped reading right there.
fuck off to plebbit kike

>>382924357
All the people whining about fo3 ending permanently when it came out are to blame. Bethesda said they'd make games that "never end" after that hence the radiant quests

>>382914040
>destroying the bunker
>shooting Benny in his dumb face with his gun
>killing House
>killing Yes-man
>killing Chan's leader and replacing him
>siding with NCR

Rate?

>>382918634
>Fallout 4 factions catter to identity politics, which are basically meme politics
i think there is some projection going on here, pal.
it's
>should we enslave intelligent robots?
>should we free intelligent robots?
>should we destroy intelligent robots?
>should we help random settlements?
i don't see where you can force contemporary politics into this, because there is none.
go outside more.

>>382927190
>siding with the cuck republic
>can barely beat a couple of spearchucking raiders equipped with pool cues
House is objectively the best ending.

New vegas is better than F3 and probably 4, but it's overrated.

The Legion is literal edgelord villain rapists under the most paper-thin guise of moral greyness. Even fallout 3 did morally grey way better with The Pitt. Even Skyrim did morally grey better with the civil war.

And then there's House, the brilliant genius secluded billionaire who was holed up safely in his impenetrable fortress for decades but for some reason decided he had to let the mailman into his bedroom, making the mailman a target of every major faction and in some endings, getting himself murdered.

Or how about the fiends, who are braindead junkies who magically have access to a literally endless supply of bodies and high grade energy weapons, and who somehow can compete with a military base right outside their neighborhood.

Which is better: Merged or Batch patch? I wanna make sure my game is as stable as it can be

>>382927406
you could replace robots with blacks and it would mean the same shit

>>382927804
read all the guides again, you haven't understood anything.

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>>382927621
Legion isn't designed as the gray faction.

>F4
>Raildroad
Seriously, that thing is more than enough to drop the game.
Why in the 9 Hells people would waste resources, risk their lives to save a bunch of androids or whatever, when people can't even build a something that goes beyond metal shacks shantytows? Where the whole region is riffle with monstrous critters, supermutants and marauding gangs.
No seriously, we barely have clean water or food enough, but we must save the robots.
THAT IS. JUST. FUCKING. STUPID!

>>382914298
this

>>382927498
>siding with white priviliged rich man
anon pls

>>382927864
Free thinking androids is an old ass story in many things, it's not necessarily some political BS it's just a sci-fi trope that's interesting to debate on

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>>382914792
bethesda literally did everything you listed, but worse.

>hey kid wanna blow up this town? dont ask y tho!
>whered your dad?
>hey super mutant fawks, wanna shut this radiation machine down? No? o-ok
>DLC (you had to pay for) to fix this plot hole
>Hey president eden, blow yourself up! The absolute madman
>2 retards dressed in comic book hero costumes fighting in radiation hell (lol2epic)

Do you want me to keep going because I easily can or did I make my point about how wrong and stupid you are, clear enough for you?

Bonus Content: amazing vanilla fallout 4 gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma6Pl_sooOA

>I'm more hyped for a new vegas mod that's been delayed multiple times than for any word of bethesda making another fallout

Who's ready for the frontier boys?

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It's nice to see that /v/irgins are finally waking up and are seeing how bad New Vegas (doesn't even deserve to carry the Fallout name, 2bh) is. For far too long it's been overhyped to hell and back.

>>382928147
Because they're not robots anymore, they're literally people with a chip somewhere.

>>382928694
Todd shouldn't you be working on making shit VR ports and monetizing mods?

Summer needs to end.

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>>382928324
What you said is the PG version of identity politics. Free-thinking androids are basically artificial slaves, they are supposedly created by humans to serve them just like slaves and if they ever find the chance they'll rebel, just like slaves.

>>382928793
Their numbers is just too small to justify, there was plenty of human slaves, they don't even agree what defines them as human, remember that they won't go after older models, like Nick, just the ones with a perfected cover.
When you can't even had a functional government, a proper city, water and food, going after oppressed robots it shows that your priorities are fucking screwed.

>New Vegas adds a group of hyper advanced pre war scientists that have been secluded from the outside world and turns them into a cast of likable but morally grey characters that still fit the tone of the fallout universe
>Fallout 4 adds a group of hyper advanced pre war scientists that have been secluded from the outside world and makes a bland nothing faction that seem as if they were shoved into the world with no attempt to make them fit the feel of the universe.

I think the best way to describe fallout 4 is tone deaf. It's like it was written by a group of people who only played Fallout 3

>>382914040

4s factions are all bad. Minutemen are fucking nonexistent. Railroad is just retarded in general. Brotherhood is too aggressive. Institute did everything wrong. Legion in nv was the dunbest6but thats because they didn't have enough time to really flesh them out. Even then they're still better than anything in 4.

>>382927864
you could do that with ANYTHING retard.

>>382928793
Those things don't really know how to act human unless they get brainwashed with a memory wipe. Curie still acts like a retarded robot when you get her the new body. They're different from Ghouls who actually grew up as real humans and still act the same.

>>382914527
>I have no convictions look at how superior I am xD
Go right the fuck back to that cute little robot website.

>>382929748
which still doesn't disprove that this game is about identity politics :^)

Minutemen were the only faction worth siding with. Didn't have any bullshit agenda, just taking back the commonwealth for the people.

>>382929175
your analogy is so thin and weak honestly.
the question here is not "should we have slaves" but "should we make robot slaves" or "should robots be considered slaves once they turn intelligent"
literally an age old scifi dilemma, which has little to nothing to do with modern day politics.
stop trying to bend over backwards to inject your views into anything.

>>382929960
you'd have to prove that first.
disprove to me that the game is not about pokemon go and smartphones.

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Fallout 4's main issue is that factions are poorly written.
I won't talk really about Minutemen because they're the retard-proof ending like Yes Man. Even though gameplay wise the faction is flawed.
Railroad is retarded. They have this weird obsession with synth slavery, despite human slave rings existing in the wasteland.
Institute is cartoonishly evil, their goals are just odd. They just seem to be doing research to purposely damage the wasteland, which is nonsense.
What's especially retarded is the nuke the Institute ending. The Institute contains a fuckload of ground breaking technology that could help all these poor folks out there within the wasteland. Acquiring it seems naturally intelligent. Despite that, the Minutemen nuke it. The Railroad, who have a boner for synths, destroy the place where they are created. The BoS which has a boner for technology destroys it as well;
> I went independent to try to be the good guy, but even then, the ending was terrible even with good karma.
It's retarded to shape the ending according to your karma. Blame it on Fallout 3 which had the whole game revolve around your karma level. The essential point is that, every faction is inherently flawed in some way or another, and it doesn't make sense that your karma should actually affect this. The only point of karma is to see how wastelanders view you. The faction you pick is the one you judge the most fitting for the wasteland, then you draw some conclusions upon seeing the ending screens.

If Fallout 4 wasn't a Fallout game do you think people would have had a better opinion on it because it wasn't tarnishing a franchise, or a worse opinion on it because it didn't have a name to hide behind?

>>382930457
yes

>>382930457
The only reason people don't like Fallout 4 is because it streamlined role playing elements, if it didn't have the Fallout moniker it would be recognized as the best loot shooter ever made.

>>382930104
The BoS is pretty good cause they act like they're the righteous good guys but everyone else thinks they're total assholes. Maxson is a cult of personality with delusions of grandeur that wants to be King Arthur of the wasteland.

>>382930457
Former

>>382929393

I agree completely. Especially the last sentence.

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>>382930112
>the question here is not "should we have slaves" but "should we make robot slaves" or "should robots be considered slaves once they turn intelligent"
they used to say the same shit about black slaves in a time when it was considered acceptable
not to mention that they also "upgraded" their slaves with eugenics so they'd be more efficient in what they do, just like how androids would be upgraded to do more suitable tasks

>>382930274
>moving the goalposts

>>382930561
BoS has the coolest toys to play with but they're just too militant for me

>>382930652
that is such nonsense dude.
what you are saying is so hamfisted and far fetched, it's honestly laughable.
just stop.
the synths are not an analogy for black people just because you could use the word "slave".
just like blade runner is not about black people.
just like westworld is not about black people.
just like [insert scifi with human like androids] is not about black people.
i mean, are you literally unable to grasp this?

>>382930737
right.
if you make a ludicrous fever dream statement, it is obviously on me to disprove you.
you don't have to prove it first.
sure.
and no goalposts were moved, what the shit are you even talking about retard?

>>382931018
>what you are saying is so hamfisted and far fetched, it's honestly laughable.
Have you never seen Bethesda writing before? Also while I don't agree with the guy I can understand where he's getting this idea from, and too be fair they did name the group attempting to free them after a group who freed black people.

>>382914040
Morally grey is better for roleplaying because human beings are inherently morally grey. This post is shit

>>382930553

What a way to excuse poor decision-making on the developers part and shift the blame on the consumers, Todd.

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>>382931018
it's not an argument about blacks being androids but how they're both treated simlarly with identity politics, one is part of history and the other is just sc-fi which makes it more safe to discuss with people
in other words, your argument is half-assed and you need to stop relying on feelings

New Vegas isn't even morally grey, The Legion are clearly the bad guys and House would clearly be the good guy, infact they had to throw in a "kill the Brotherhood of Steel" quest just to make him seem uncharacteristcally evil. Fallout 4's factions are greyer than New Vegas

>Fo4fags
>still playing their game
>NVfags
>haven't played in months and whenever they do they spend countless hours modding it, take screenshots for 30 mins, and then exit the game

So this is why nvfags are so insecure

>>382931752
>>haven't played in months and whenever they do they spend countless hours modding it, take screenshots for 30 mins, and then exit the game
sounds a lot like /fog/

>>382927190
you can't kill Yes Man though

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>>382931838
exactly what I was referencing but also the majority of /v/ suckers who buy into the nv is a masterpiece meme

>>382932248
/fog/ is pro-FO4

>>382932248
Not a master piece but New Vegas is by far the best 3d fallout and can stand with 1 and 2 in terms of quality. Solid 8.5/10 game

>>382930561
What are you talking about the one of the few things Bethesda got right with 4 is the BoS return to form. they are fully going to bring martial law to the commonwealth and strip down any community for the advanced tech they want. they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, they do it because they want shit

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>>382932702

HEY HEY HEY! Don't get ahead of yourself now. A 7.9 is a 7.9, not an 8 kiddo.

>>382933601
Oh right sorry I forgot, no pay bonus.

>>382928290
>Not siding with the greatest hope for humanity, who just happens to be a white man.

Oonga Boonga, Me anon! Me Lives Matter! I destroy future like I destroy Detroit! bix nood!

>>382930457
I'd see a half assed game with very little thought or effort put into it either way. Because that is what it is. Only difference in the naming of the product is they tricked me into buying it. Makes me regret defending games like Skyrim or Fallout 3 because fuck Bethesda for selling such piece of shit game on hype. I should have jumped off the bandwagon when they released the PS3 version of Skyrim because it's literally unplayable after so many hours. That's when I should have realized how low they could go.

>>382914040
Daily reminder that the Institute's behavior makes less sense than the Think Tank's, even though the Think Tank are canonically insane.

>>382932790
They still think they're the heroes. Danse is representative of the BoS and he mostly likes when you're nice except when dealing with synths or ghouls. Maxsom believes he's saving the wasteland.

>>382914787
Brotherhood are fanatic purifiers and railroad are synth apologists.