>Dark Souls II is a good game guys I swear!

Consider Dark Souls II the Master Quest of the series. It's all the mechanics and design aspects of Dark Souls brought to their logical conclusion.

If you don't like it, that just means that you never TRULY loved Dark Souls for what it REALLY was.

Which is understandable, I didn't either.

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>Dark Souls is a good game guys I swear!

>Posting a bug
>instead of the mistake that was everything after majula

>>382911927
You aren't allowed to post that!

>>382911927
Fucking grab attacks

>People unironically think Dark Souls is a super hard game when really it's just a clunky buggy piece of shit

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>>382912285
Yeah sorry, this one would be more fitting

>>382911734

BRAAAAP

>>382911734
Bed of Chaos

Whenever I beat Dark Souls and move on, should I het Dark Souls 2 or go straight to 3?

Inb4 get blood borne

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>>382911734
all "problems" with DaS2 can be solved by uninstalling

DaS3 is the better game anyway.

>>382912893
It isn't as bad as people on this board make it out to be, definitely get scholar of the first sin if you can. DS3 feels more like a sequal to DS1, DS2 is just kind of the red headed step child of the series

>>382911734
I'm having fun with it, but it's not without flaws.

Mostly ADP being such a dumb idea.

So dumb.

>>382911734
Im enjoying it so far. I mean i have no idea where/what the fuck im doing half the time but im enjoying it nonetheless.
Accidentally started doing the dlc without realizing it until i looked at my bonfire teleports and noticed all these shaded out areas.

Also speaking of shades how in the FUCK was i supposed to know that lighting torches now summons shades? Fuck me man. Give a nigga a book or some ancient text shit or something that down right says that first.
>light torch
>move camer a little
>three red shades spawning behind me
>AND all these heretical heathens can throw lightning forever
>lightning can ricochet off walls

They're not hard to kill but still its the principal.

I'm actually enjoying Sotfs more than DS1. Some tedious elements have been reduced.
I didn't have problems with rolling or adaptability so far either, but that could be because of my playstyle.
I only miss the designs and atmosphere of DeS and DaS1.

>>382911734
did the dragon just fart player to death?

>>382911927
>staying near the enemy when obvious animation plays out
no excuse

Dark Souls 2 is the casual filter of the series

It also features the best content and best replay ability. Even the worst content in Dark Souls 2 (like the rats) is better than the average content in Call of Dark Warfare Souls 3

>>382913994
>staying behind an enemy when he does a frontal grab
>get grabbed anyways
Shit game, no excuse

>>382914620
nah the underground shit with those antler wearing witches are, is the worst. The underground crypt with the undead ringing bells all fuckin day also sucks.

I defeated the ancient dragon with dual wielding caestus

whats your excuse?

dark souls 2 is the shitiest souls game tho

>>382913763
lets talk when you go to the frigid outskirts

>>382913159
>DS3 feels more like a sequal to Bloodborne; it is just kind of the red headed step child of the series

Fixed that for you.

>>382915472

But that area is neither difficult nor tedious if played as intended.

>>382914763
>being an autistic retard, unable to adapt
no excuse

>>382911734
>>382911927
>>382912530

Why are you posting +5 years old webms of the first version of the games unpatched, anon? We can all take old game and show bugs.

>>382911734
you tried to kill a fully-grown dragon

>>382912893
DS2 is good but it's boss fights are meh.

>>382916907
>unpatched
Iron golem and gaping dragon still do that shit in the current game version tho

>>382911734
it's a shit game but not for that reason, that's just your lack of gud.

>>382915331
I defeated him first go like i do most bosses casual scum

>>382916669
>adapt to shit animations
Shouldn't have to

Just started SOTFS. My experience so far has been "3 or more enemies gangbang you in a room and have an aggro range of the entire continent". Both bosses I have fought have a general strategy of circle strafing around them because of their attacks consisting of them attacking in an unavoidable 270 degree arc. Does it become less tedious as I level?

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>>382917184
b-but Iron Golem and Gaping Dragon are in a different game... how is this relevant?

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Why DkS2 is a trash Souls game
>Shitty art direction and atmosphere: despite the fact that it's newer than DkS1 and DeS, it's still looks uglier than them and more disneylandish, the dark fantasy was weak in it.
>shitty world design/layout: but DkS3 is worse in that regard. the star shaped world design/layout in DkS2 is a downgrade from its predecessor's complex metroidvania-like world.
>Soul Memory.
>Teleportation from the start: the thing that ruined the series for all games to come.
>floaty and unsatisfying combat: fake omni-directional rolling, lack of feedback when you hit or get hit by an enemy, crappy animations...etc, the combat doesn't really have a good hefty feel to it, it's like you're fighting underwater.
>generic and unoriginal bosses: some of them could be beaten simply by circle strafing. basically a lot of the bosses and other elements in the game aren't as imaginative (weird, bizarre, fucked up) as the ones in games directed by Miyazaki, they're a bit more generic (BY SOULS STANDARDS).
>Agility: this is one of the main reasons why combat felt shitty, you'd time your roll correctly but then notice your health mysteriously turned yellow and went down.

>>382911734
I didnt get this game because /v/ told me it was shit. I started Dark Souls 3 yesterday and I like it so far, so Idk if I should go back and get 2. Also is the whole difficulty thing a meme? Because its pretty easy so far.

>>382918063
DaS III is the easiest in the series

>>382918063
DkS3 is easiest and most casulized one.

>>382917712
upvoted

>>382918063
>I didnt get this game because /v/ told me it was shit
Consider suicide

>>382918182
>>382918187
>>382918620
So should I get 2?

>>382918784
no, the only two Souls game you should play are Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 in that order.

>>382918896
>>382918784
upvoted

>>382918784
You should become able to make your own decisions instead of letting a flock of shitposters in an anonymous board on the internet make them for you, you cuck

>>382911734
I don't see what's wrong here, clearly a shockwave case.

>>382911734
That's clearly a bug you fucking retard.

And the funny thing is, that boss actually has plenty of shockwave webm's around but you had to pick literally one that's not a shockwave but an animation glitch.

>>382913907
>BRRRAAAAPPPTTTTFF

>>382911734
Dark souls 2 is where all the mechanics of the first game should have gone. People just hated it because it wasn't just dark souls 1 again, like 3 and bloodborne both were

Dark souls 2 DLC is the best souls content to date

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>>382911734
>it's a yet another fight the camera more than you fight the boss and then attack his legs until he dies episode

I love those, really glad FROM keeps putting them every time they can!

>>382919228
I don't remember that one having any camera issues? You're also not supposed to attack his legs.

Still a shit bossfight though

>>382912893
I mean, DS3 is better than 2 but that's not saying much. They're both pretty bad.

>>382919210
>People just hated it because it wasn't just dark souls 1 again, like 3 and bloodborne both were
>bloodborne

0/10

>>382919457
>implying bloodborne was anything other than a reskin that just pandered to DS1 fans
>inb4 "b-b-buh they took out shields!!!!!"

>>382919712
I can't believe people are still mad they need a ps4 for bloodborne.

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>>382911734
>Dark Souls III is a good game guys I swear!

>>382919457
upvoted

>>382919795
I can't believe people are still so hungry for souls games that they are willing to spend 300 bucks on a shit console to play a reskin of a game from 2011

>>382919795
I can't believe people still defend spending 250$ for one game

>>382917880
You are like little baby.
>Dark Souls 3
>shortest game
>bonfires out the ass
>filled to the brim with shitty references
>massive amounts of on-disc cut content that will be sold as DLC
>rehashed areas in an already short game
>the worst, newbie/scrub favoring invasion system yet
>no arena
>Heavy armor sucks
>Armor variety is less than DS2 BASE game, despite copypasting a 3rd of the armors from previous games
>Magic needs 2-3 ring slots just to dish out melee level damage
>Magic itself does reduced damage for PvP
>removes a shit ton of spells from the previous game
>awful scaling balance
>FP is the most awful casting management system introduced yet (worse than DeS mana, which had better regen options and more efficient)
>FP horribly ineffiecent with damage, ends up causing everyone to use 1 or 2 FP efficient spell like Great Heavy Soul Arrow
>Miracles awful, best and most viable one locked behind the final boss
>bland NG+
>awful covenants
>no blue eye orb
>blue sentinels and darkmoons the exact same
>left hand weapons no longer have full movesets
>dual wield weapons are gimmicks
>boss weapons can’t be infused
>Straight Swords and Curved Sword are as fast as daggers
>Great Weapons are slower than previous games, and costs more stamina, while barely doing more damage
>1-2 Weapons ALWAYS the best in class, no redeeming qualitys for special weapons resulting in less weapon variety than BB
>very little moveset variation
>WA are mostly shit or copypasted powerstance moves
>No backstep i-frame
>rolls have too much i-frames and cost too little stamina
>bloodborne enemies catered to R1 spam from ss and cs
>hexes gone and dark magic is shit
>shittiest dragon form
>no dragon covenant
>refined/hollow completely dominates
>DLC has so far been shit
>19 bosses, a good chunk being gimmicks
>linear level design, less branching options than DeS, DS2, and even BB
>b-but the DLC will save it!
>b-but other games have faults!

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>>382920045
>>382919981

Beautiful.

s h o c k w a v e s

>>382916669
>adapt
>b-b-but my HARDCORE GAME

And if it was rated E or on a Nintendo console you could not WAIT to shit all over it for days on end.

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>>382920246
>someone was mad enough to type all this shit out

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>TFW going back and watching the early footage of what DS could have been if consoles didn't ruin it

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>>382920246
>Biting that hard onto his shitty bait.
bruv come on
he put in no effort at all, don't reward him

>>382920469
upvoted

>>382917880
That actually was the most surprising thing about DSII it looks worse visually to both demon's and dark souls. The way that characters look. SotFS kinda fixed that problem, but it still doesn't look right.

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Truly a masterpiece.

>>382918468
>>382918969
>>382919959
>>382920561
Imagine being this upset that people don't like your favorite game

>>382920809
>Didn't bow

The exact moment I knew there was going to be some bullshit afoot

>>382920809
Try rolling but hole

>>382920246
lol man DkS3 is also garbage. i was mainly comparing it to DkS1.

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>>382921085
>Tranquil Walk of Peace
>try rolling

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>>382920809
And the sequel to that masterpiece.

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>>382921558
>Lucatiel

>>382921272
I don't remember that disabling rolling

>>382921769
You remember wrong then

>>382920841
upvoted

>>382911734
>BRAAAAAAP

>>382911734
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG2HwH1JkAI

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>>382921769
>fog ring removed lock-on
>tranquil walk of peace removed roll from fast builds and overencumbered fat rollers
>busted gear like the pyromancy gear or the antiquated skirt
>pyromancy was busted as shit, fire tempest
>crystal ring magic shield
>iron flesh

>>382923971
This desu

>>382913741
HUMAN
DO NOT PRODUCE LIGHT

>>382923971
>all who disagree must be contrarian

>>382917880
>Soul Memory
That was all a ruse
There's a reason why modifying that value does absolutely nothing

>>382919228
Don't rely too much on locking on anon

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>>382919950
deflection I swear!

>>382924901
that kitty is cute :3

>>382911919
Care to explain such an absurd conclusion?

>>382915331
I never beat him because I found it boring.

>>382924901
Dark Souls 3 has just as much pointless pandering as 2 did, if not more.

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>>382918182
>>382918187

dark souls 1 enemies: have like 3 different moves

dark souls 3 enemies: have like 10 different moves which are retard fast

i'll have whatever drugs you're having

>>382926083
>dark souls 3 enemies: have like 10 different moves which are retard fast
Which you won't see if you just r1 your way to victory. stun lock in DaS3 is bananas. In all fairness though, they and myself more than likely found DaS3 the easiest simply because we had 2 (or 4, depending how you're counting) games to master the mechanics.

>>382925263
>game has theming based around being inevitably trapped in an endless cycle.
>sequels use imagery or situations evocative of the previous games to reinforce this idea
>"It's just a rehash!"

granted dark souls 3 was a bit more on the nose with it. I mean, doesn't it almost literally go back to lordran, although now by the name lothric?

>>382926592

disregard the enemies with insane poise

>>382926676
You go back to Anor Londo, and Gwyndolin totally lived DaS1. And the general locals are just variants of DaS1 environments, which was a let down for me personally.
I've always hated the whole "endless cycle" shit they added with 2 as well, considering 1 wasn't made with that in mind at all.

>>382926765
Which enemies? I don't recall any beyond maybe the cleric knights from the CK's garden, and even they had slow attacks and could be staggered after two swings.
Although, to be fair, I haven't played DaS3 since Ringed City first came out.

>>382923971
upvoted and gilded

>>382912530
Recoiling from running headfirst into a pillar-like leg isn't a glitch.

>>382917880
>Teleportation from the start: the thing that ruined the series for all games to come.
Didn't Demon's Souls already have that?

>>382928282
demon souls layout (essentially a megaman style level select) makes it work way better than shoehorning it into an "open world" game like DS2.

>>382915085
Casual

>>382928450
Well why didn't you blame disjointed, unconnected level design instead of teleportation then?

>>382928684
How about I blame both because they're both stupid? The game was clearly designed under the logic that you can just teleport back, that's why the four lord souls just uncerimoniously dump you back to majula at the end automatically and why there's stuff like the bonfire to belfry sol that's one way only and requires a bonfire warp to go back to iron keep

>>382928282
yes but DkS1 removed it, which was an improvement over having it, sadly the rest if them added it back.

>>382915664
'no'

>>382927054
1 seemed to imply the cycle. Or rather says that your choice doesn't really matter. Gwyn dies and you link the fire, but no guarantee that it'd last considering that he was basically a demigod/king/deity, and you were a (relatively) mortal. Bring on the age of the dark, and there's no guarantee that that would last either.

>>382921747
I miss Scatman John so fucking much.

>>382924901
god dasii really had abysmal art direction

just look at the crows, cats and ghosts; objectively worse than the game it preceeded, and that should not happen

>>382918784
No, 2 is terrible, you can argue you like the shitty graphics and the unspired atmosphere or whatever you want, but playing the game, moving and attacking feels FUCKING bad, like you are underwater or in low gravity all the time, weightless and still clunky, slow and bad animated, I will upload a webm I made of a enemy attacking me though a greatsword strong attack without even reacting but Im phoneposting from the shitter.

I just got SotFS having played the original at launch. New enemy placement isn't as drastic as I thought it would be, can't really tell if it's better at this point. There seems to be zero feedback on enemies hitting you which is completely jarring.

Other than that, when does the game get good again? I'm only in FotFG which is as garbage as ever.

>>382932358
At least the cat in 2 looks like a cat

>>382932358
it was literally assets thrown together in random order, because the game was scrapped at least 5 times during development. that's why the dlcs are actually consistent in their design, unlike the terrible main game

>>382911919
What the fuck.

>>382914620
I can't believe people are seriously this delusional.

>>382911734
>dsp is so desperate for money that he's playing this again
There's no way it can surpass the disaster that was the redemption run

>>382931318
You're right about it implying your choice didn't matter, but not about the "endless cycle" shit. For all intent and purpose, The Dark\Abyss was the end.

DSP has died 10 times already and hasn't reached Majula yet. Is this game that hard?

>>382936789
no, its DSP what the fuck do you expect?

Why are you assholes bothering the ancient dragon, he's just sleeping.

The series would have been better if it had stayed Demon's Souls. Just go back and play DeS, the world, the levels and bosses, all of it is so much fucking better.

>so that the world might be mended..

every time

>>382938125
'cause dragons and anything resembling them are pieces of shit.

>>382938369
https://youtu.be/L1T5e0Xfr4M
best final boss dialogue

>>382938369
Nigger please, Dark Souls 1 is the GOAT

>>382938369
Hi Matt!

>>382938369
>>382938663
Christ, DeS is so good, thinking about it actually makes me sad. They had a vision, they created exactly what they wanted in the way that they wanted to, potential critical reception or anything else be damned. it literally has more >SOUL XDDD than the other games.

>>382938903
>held this opinion for years, since I first played DeS
>Some jewtube fag made a 50 hour video saying everything I just said but in a really long and slow way
thanks ketosis or whatever

>>382937057
DSP fails at things on purpose, you know this right?

What made Demon's Souls the best From game?

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Dark Souls 2 is a good game

>>382939197
Hi Phil!

>>382939420
it's the most brutal.
dem Giant Deprived One in dem tight spaces in the Valley of Defilement, dem rolling skeletons in the Shrine of Storms that rek your shit in 2 hits, dat gauntlet infront of the Penetrator boss fight, dat dragon bridge.

>>382939484
It is. It's even a good "Souls" game, whatever the fuck that means.

It had a lot of improvements over DaS1, and some things that were worse, but it was mostly improved, and the lighting effects from the torches were cool as hell.

>>382939420
Unlike what >>382939761
just said, I don't think it's just because of being "brutal" >lol epin prepar 2 die!

but it's because the levels and such were designed because they wanted to make them that way, they had no "SO EXTREME, HARDCORE MANY DEATHS!" reputation to live up to. It was just their vision, and they crafted a beautiful dark and mysterious land around it. The enemy and armor designs, and especially the environments are all my personal favourites. The cutscenes, the characters, the voice cast, all of it was so perfect. The intro cutscene still gives me goosebumps, and the story the monumental tells you via cutscene is incredible too. Everything is just drenched in passion and you can feel it. Fuck it, I'm going to play some more right now.

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>>382934892
And even parts of those are made of scrapped stuff.

we can all agree that every swamp area in the souls franchise fuckin sucks

My souls rankings are:

DaS1 > BB = DeS > DaS3 > DaS2

While a lot of my favourite bosses and things from the series are in BB and DeS, the general quality of DaS1 as well as the sheer amount of hours I could squeeze out of the game puts it above the others for me, with BB and DeS close behind.

>>382940272
tell us more about the mess that is dark souls 2

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>>382912530
Just beat this like a week ago, it still does that, Im not even kidding, its not a very big problem but its just so fucking annoying since it has alot of health.

>>382911734
Are we seriously still having threads about this?

Dark Souls 2 is the weakest game in the franchise, but a solid game overall. It in no way deserves the shitposting it gets, especially when we have game like Mass Effect Andromina and Watch Dogs.

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>>382911919
>>382912893
Its fucking shiet lad, every single boss in that game is fucking shit. I hated my entire playthrough by the time I started reaching the end of the game, I didn't even want to bother fighting anyone else other then the last boss which is just as disappointing as all the other bosses. just skip it.
The bosses in DaS3 are absolutely gwyn tier.

>>382940838
Valley of defilement was amazing in DeS, especially with how Maiden Astraea is the thing waiting for you at the centre of this rotting, disgusting, horrible place, I fucking love the place and her fight.

>>382941020
Taking a closer look at everything in King's Passage is all you need to know about this game.

>>382914620

>best replay ability

The only great addition in DaS2 was the changes in NG+ but replaying the game also makes you realize how much of a slog it is. DaS2 is 5 or 6 zones too long

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>>382920246
>shortest game
If it weren't for casuals like your faggot ass, we wouldn't have gotten warping at the beginning of the 3.

>>382941598
explain

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First time playing, a friend told me about how to get the Drake sword. I know I gotta stop using it soon since it's a noob trap or whatever. I just upgrapde the Halbred or claymore or Gargoyle Tail axe? I got a fuck ton of unused Titanite shards and shit.

Do Demon's Souls fans like DS3?

>>382941927
I love the claymore personally

>>382924901
What the fuck is the second picture from?

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>Dark souls 2 is a bad game.

In other news water is wet.

>>382942020
Just the regular claymore?

>>382942185
Yes. It is legit one of the best weapons in the game.

>>382941598
>King's Passage

The place with the sephiroth tree right?

>>382942185
good 1h and 2h moveset along with decent damage

>>382941927
You can't go wrong with the halberd, claymore, or gargoyle tail axe. Make sure you level up your weapons as well as your strength + dexterity.

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>>382941841
It's absolutely FILLED with glitches and unfinished shit.

>missing and misaligned textures and geometry everywhere
>black void left and right that is just a large mesh that some level designer put there (you can even get a glimpse at the border of this mesh since you can look between the pillars in the boss arena to see the outside of the rest of the level)
>lightning casts a shadow of the level on the nearby mountains
>rain cuts off halfway down
>aiming with the bow and looking up reveals the borders of the rain "curtains" that hang in front of you
>rain effect on the floor is some animated bump mapping that looks like its not working properly
>textures reused from DS1's Undead Burg that don't fit at all; probably placeholders they forgot to replace since out of all the textures in that area they also don't feature that animated bump mapping
>flag clips through pillar after a while
>the outer ring of the elevator platform is actually not connected to the rest of it
>why is this the only floating elevator platform, anyway?
>even the fucking door to the passage doesn't work properly and the upper parts clip into the walls due to being physically impossible to open in that direction
>there's heavy rain in the boss arena but there isn't any when looking out of the windows
>this was their first showcase area for demonstrations

>>382928087
>Dark souls fans

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>Dark Souls introduces warping after Anor Londo
>Game becomes trash because there's no longer any sense of world cohesion or planning
>"Hmm, what should we do for the next game?"
>"Let's make warping available from the start!"

>>382934892
>that falcon knight walking animation
It's like they just gave no fucks after the 20th scrape.

>>382917712
Bosses are all shit gameplay wise
Every encounter is a gangbang vs poise monster enemies that never lose aggro
Get used it.

>>382912530
The Ornstein charge glitch is still in the game as well. From software just have buttmonkeys for coders.

>>382942935
Don't forget the misaligned hitboxes that have been "fixed", the dogs in the gutter that can hit you from behind, enemies and bosses skipping animations, terrible lingering hitboxes, npc phantoms literally perfectly tracking you on every attack, etc etc...
Saying that dark souls 2 pve is shit is an understatement.

>>382942683
Did they fix any of it with patches? How did they get away with it?

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>>382942683
>this was their first showcase area for demonstrations

Was there ever an explanation for how bad they fucked up DaS2? I know the original director was a dipshit, but I don't know how bad he ruined the game.

>>382942420
That thing and the bust in front of it honestly looked like yet another piece of scrapped content/lore to me.
You don't just make unique and notable assets like this without any reason.

>>382942935
>>382943372
>falcon knights shield stab is him literally just lunging his frozen model

So does everyone on PC play Dark Souls 3 with an xbok controller?
Becasue I'm having a hard time getting used to them on a keyboard when they always show up as xbox controls

>>382944552
Dark Souls was built with Xbox controllers in mind

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>>382944201
That's all still in SotFS.
Just like the Chosen Undead's poop jar they copypasted from DS1 all over Drangleic, the Falconer's silly walks, the fact that spiders drop Zweihänders and tiny kobolds Black Knight weapons, Earthen Peak's Quake1-tier texture tiling, the Vengarl's Armor/Imperious Gloves glitch, the changing sails on the ship to Lost Bastille, the fucking elevator in Lost Bastille, the fact that a lot of characters have fully modelled mouths but don't have any talking animations and a bazillion other fuck-ups.

>>382942420
>sephiroth tree

?

>>382911919
>It's all the mechanics and design aspects of Dark Souls brought to their logical conclusion.

if they all worked well in DaS2

>>382944923
Highest rated and BEST game by From software. prove me wrong.

>>382944923
What is the vengarls helmet imperious gloves glitch? Never heard of it. But what I know is that you can glitch certain headwear models if you fuck up your face too much, I made my character have the longest nose I could make and it deformed the models.

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>has motion capture animations
>somehow even fucks up the drinking animation that its prequel got right

>>382911927
wait a minute, he straight up walks through the legs right into the grab. Theres absolutely nothing wrong here

>>382944923
what's wrong with her face?

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>>382945434
Your wrists will vanish since it loads the wrong glove model, resulting in your character becoming Rayman.

>>382944552
No we play on PS4 with a PS4 controller you fucking shit head trashbag

>>382912530
WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING THE FRONT PART OF A DRAGON IN DARK SOULS

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>>382911734
I actually did buy it. Was excited to play it only to find that it crashes on startup.

are maps really this small?
im actually dos appointed because people hyped out the souls series and yet its like castlevania in 3d

hell castlevania is harder than souls

>>382918784
2 was fun when it just came out. PvP was positively fucked but being a Rat King or a a Bellboy was some real fun shit on the onset.

Batfog was hilariously fun too.

>>382945872
its exactly castlevania in 3D which is why I love it.

>>382945956
PVP was fucked? 2 has the best PVP in any of the game by far. Hate the game all you want, but you're delusional if you think Straight Sword Souls is better than 50 differing builds and actual strategy.

>>382942935
If you want something even more hilarious then check out the hollow soldier's LOD walking animations, best seen from that tree-giant behind the king's door.
They look like they're riding invisible bicycles.

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>>382946206
>PvP was fucked?
Someone didn't play 2 on release and didn't remember roll parry scimmys or this fun thing.

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>dual-wielding curved swords

Fucking what

>>382911734
This fight is less BS than Midir. All I did for this is two hand, constantly bait his fire attack, then whale on him. MIdir is fucking garbage and I've had more camera issues with him than this one.

Ancient Dragon felt like the insane optional secret boss. Midir felt like the cheap, glitchy optional sercret boss.

At least Gael was great.

>>382945956
2 had some absolutely broken PvP, but honestly aside from monoscim and havelmage fuckery it had the best PvP in all Souls.

I put so many hours into that, but DS3 just didn't feel right. Didn't help that longswords and cestus ruled for so long there.

>>382946206
Or who could forget binoboosting? That was hilarious, but as I said, positively fucked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9IMaJY0GOI

>>382911927
>walking under iron golem legs during grab attack
>>382912530
>walking near gaping dragon legs
man fuck you these webms just show garbage players getting rekt lmao

>>382946309
Yeah something that lasted less than a month. I played it since release. It was a whip and that IIRC.

>>382946309
Lightning Spears that could homing kill, buff stacking like a prepper stacks cans of pork and beans

>>382946539
Dark Souls 2 PvP was great because it was so broken.

>>382946623
It was great because it was VARIED and FUN

>>382946827
It was fun because it was broken. I don't consider a bunch of plebs with Santa's Spear and Hexes varied, essentially.

>>382946623
It was great since fucking anything worked. Yes you always had power gaming min/max gear, but everything else was viable. It's also the only Souls game where sorcery/pyromancy was actually good in PvP.

>tfw joined blue sentinels and helped blue babbies beat reds by spamming tons of crystal soul spear, soul geyser, etc. everywhere

>>382947032
>ever actually being a bluefag
Life discarded.

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The moment you were 100% sure that the devs were just fucking around.

>>382947032
>DaS2 Greataxes
>Viable
You clearly never used one

>>382911734
Why are DaS2's bosses either great (Mirror Knight, Velstadt, Darklurker, Smelter, DLCs) or fucking terrible (all the others)?

>>382921558
>D***line

Even the fucking name-filter is poorly made and censors words like "knight" because it has "nig" in it.

>>382947285
Okay, almost everything.

>>382947379
That's every Souls game except arguably 3.

>>382946206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9IMaJY0GOI

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>Intro cinematic shows you having a wife and kid, start as a dude
>Walk ten paces
>Talking to some old grannys turns you into a woman
they didn't even fucking try with this game

>>382947379
First felt like they were designed with a concept and the area they're in in mind while the others feel like they were designed first and then randomly put into the game.
Why is Najka in a random piece of desert right between some forest ruins and dwarven caverns?
Why did they shave Sif and called him a rat?
Who the fuck is the Prowling Magus and what is he doing there?
What the hell is Ornstein doing there?
Did you just make up that retarded lore for the Covetous demon to justify its placement there and DID YOU JUST PAINT IT WHITE AND TRIED TO SELL IT TO ME AS A SEAL?!

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>>382947917
Binoboost didn't even last a month. Everything else was spot on though.

>tfw buff stacking with full havels
>tfw literally couldn't die while buffs were active

Sometimes I feel so stupid for having enjoyed all the games and thinking they're all good, but then I remember that it's not me who is stupid, it's most of you.

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>>382947920
>mfw they didn't even lock your equipment at the start

>enter room
>door explodes
>get gangbanged by 5 enemies who all ignore your attacks
>try to roll, get hit by shockwave, die
>"this is dark souls ;^)"

DS2 gets too much hate.

Its only real major flaw is the horrible graphics and mediocre music.

>>382947920
>take off clothes
>green zombieman
>talk to hags
>effigy reminds you that you're a chick
>still have broad shoulders

>>382948319
There was no buff stacking when the first dlc came out and wasn't in SotFS

>>382944223
Simple, they didn't. it's a great game and only autistic /v/ posters and hivemind non-thinkers circlejerk the idea that it's bad.

>shoot monsters in cages hanging from the ceiling
>they get enraged and easily destroy the cages

>giant basilisk in a huge cage
>the gap between the bars is wide enough for it to pass through and yet it's just sitting there

>>382948218
There's patches of sand in the shaded woods and presumably she ended up there after having gone mad as a result of experiments.

>Why did they shave Sif and called him a rat?
Because they wanted a middle finger optional boss.

>Who the fuck is the Prowling Magus and what is he doing there?
Prowling Magus are just Drangleic Priests looking after the remains of Tseldora after everyone hollowed.

>What the hell is Ornstein doing there?
My personal theory is that Blue Sentinels came to worship Ornestein (like how Farron Knights sucked Artorias' dick) and that guy was just a fanboy. Simplest explanation is that he's fanservice.

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>>382911927
>not leaving it to The Tin Tark

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>>382911734
>bloodborne is the best souls game

>start playing DS1 a few months ago
>really wrapped up in the mystique
>slow and careful
>analyse boss patterns
>tell myself i'm having fun
>even slog through 2
>it's gonna get better
>it never does
>by the time I get to 3, I no longer care
>rolling into bosses when they attack because half the time, they miss me and I can attack them from underneath and roll away
>no longer use shields and go carefully because who cares
>2-handing greataxes and rolling in, attacking, rolling away
>is working EVERY time

I feel cheated now.

>>382912893
Dark Souls 2 is a huge leap forward in mechanics, a huge leap back in bosses/story/level design/setting.

Dark Souls 3 is amazing all around.

>>382948608
If you're experiencing the world through the chosen undeads point of view, then it's fucked up shitty undead memory would make you see yourself as whatever it remembered prior to it remembering, so it makes sense.

>>382949157
>>>tell myself i'm having fun
what does this mean? if you weren't really having fun then why did you play at all

>>382912530
>killing gappy
You deserve pain

>>382948608
>go for a walk
>see big black whirlpool
>jump in, why not
>fetch up inland, in a forest on a stone plinth, dry as fuck

they obviously didn't give half a shit about this game. Just have some spooky stuff happen, meng.

>>382920246
But DS3 is just as bad as DS2
>Complaining about gimmick fights
Out with you

>>382949385

I would have played DS1 for the lore exploration and atmosphere, even if I wasn't having fun. A lot of the game WASN'T fun.

>>382948218
>Prowling Magus
>Covetous Demon

I don't know why they bother with "bosses" like these, anything a toddler can beat by spamming R1 is pointless. The other games are guilty of this too.

I like bosses that kick the shit out of you and feel impossible until you start learning their moveset and develop a strategy. Less is more.

>>382941459
>Souls games are all about bosses

>>382911734
Literally every game in the franchise has shit like this though. You ever fight Ceaseless Discharge legit? When he slams his weird tentacle arm down you can take damage from it even if you're a mile away. Shit happens, the games arent perfect, but they're all great.

Well, DeS, DaS, and DaS2 are great games, anyway.

>>382938369
DeS nostalgia cucks should be tortured to death irl. DeS is the worst game in the franchise, worst bosses, worst world design (fragmented piece of shit), most simple and uninteresting lore/story and the worst mechanism in the franchise: world tendency, locking away content behind a counter productive system that forces you to play offline to manipulate it properly.

DaS/BB/DaS3 > DaS2 >>> DeS.

I will never ever replay DeS, when I have 4 superior alternatives.

>>382911734
seeing this makes me want to go back and play

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>>382949875
Are you fucking retarded, fuck these neo/v/s and their dashiet2. if das2 was your first dark souls then you need to hang.

>>382949992
>most simple and uninteresting lore/story
funny joke, it has the best, most original and enthralling lore.

go back to watching EPIC NEW LORE DISCOVERY (NOT CLICKBAIT) (CHOSEN UNDEAD DID WHAT!?) videos on youtube.

>including BB in alternatives
kys God of War player

>>382928282
Demons also had an extreme lack of 'bonfires' so that warping really didn't matter very much.

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>>382911919
>If you don't like the absolute shitfest that is DaS2 you didn't like the original
What did he mean by this?

>>382950102
Wow you're stupid, the bosses in DeS and DaS1 were trash, why do you act like Souls games are about the bosses

>>382950682
stop using that cancer meme.

>>382911919

>If you don't like it, that just means that you never TRULY loved Dark Souls for what it REALLY was.

This is the kind of cuck who says things like: "I thought I was in love, I thought she was the one. but she turned out to be a bitch, man." while the bartender rolls his eyes and racks up the tab.

>>382950849
>the bosses in DeS and DaS1 were trash

Hang yourself posthaste.

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>>382950885
>Stop using memes I don't like
What deduction were we meant to arrive at by his statement?

>>382950102
I like the detail the creator of that image put into that pic sense he didn't use any of the pre existing mangekyo sharingan patterns and instead created something new.

>>382950516
DeS is for low IQ trash like you, the lore/story is so simple and dumb, no deeper meaning, no imagination, no wonders, just a typical le ancient evil garbage that feels more at home in a zelda or other shitty childish rpg game for children.

DeS was an experimental piece of shit, the Souls formula was solidified and perfected with Dark Souls.

Bloodborne evolved it and it is my personal favourite. BB is 100x better than DeS. DeS is garbage.

I'll say this every thread that talks shit on DaS2. Tell me how replayable DaS3 is compared to 2.

The NG+ additions in 2 as well as how the game was designed makes it fun to revisit every now and then.

>>382951231
Both aren't replayable in the slightest. Only the original is worth the effort.

>>382950885

>this particular meme is cancer, my approved memes aren't
Really applies centrifugal force upon my macadamias

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>>382950849
>the bosses in DeS and DaS1 were trash
>DaS2 literally had a rat boss
It builds up to the boss fight through the entire level. boss fights are 50% of the game.

>>382950602
You don't need bonfires when the levels are the shortest most linear pieces of shit in the entire franchise. Fuck DeS, it is garbage.

>>382917880
>you'd time your roll correctly but then notice your health mysteriously turned yellow and went down

You didn't time your roll correctly then. Having done a SL1 run ADP really isn't as unfair as people make it out to be, a few hours in and I had no problem dodging anything.

How do people keep defending Dark Souls 2 when like 90% of it is a poorly designed mess thats completely unfun to play through

1's second half might be unfinished garbage but at least the first half was really good

>>382951308
>Really applies centrifugal force upon my macadamias
I don't know where you got this but I'm using it.

>>382945826
same here bud
>desperately tried to make game run on lowest settings, could play ~3 minutes at a time before bluescreen
>managed to get to 2nd boss before losing hope
>had played too much time for a refund
quit playing video games that day desu

>>382951495
Simple, DaS2 might be bad, but it isn't absolute dogshit like Demon's Souls.

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>>382951495
>How do people keep defending Dark Souls 2
because half these faggots didn't start playing Dark Souls till the second installment which is absolute shiet.

>>382945610
>>382946513
I love how pathetic Dark Souls 1 fags are

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>>382911734
Stuff like that is more prevalent in Dark Souls 2, but that's not why Dark Souls 2 is worse than the other games in the series.

Dark Souls 2 SUCKS compared to Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3 with the #1 reason being the world design. The map doesn't really make any sense - many players probably won't notice, but the entire world's layout is incredibly disjointed. More importantly, environments feel too much like corridors slapped together so they would have something close to a real game to ship. Hallways are too long, spacious and empty, rooms are often drab and lack interesting background details, there is little in the way of creative lighting placement and there is little in the way of background animations and other details. There are almost no locations in the game that can be marveled at save for maybe a few, like Shrine of Amana, and even those pale in comparison to the marvels in the other games. There is a severe lack of atmosphere in the game that the other games don't suffer from due to this. It is easily the ugliest and least inspired game of them.

>>382949157

Honestly, this. When I first played these games, I thought that logic would apply. Shields blocking damage, rolls being used to make a quick getaway, boss attacks being kind of the same as mine, fast attacks being low damage, slow ones high but telegraphed more, and specials being flashy and super-powerful, and more easily avoided if you know what the tells are.

Maybe it started off like that, but somewhere along the line, maybe toward the end of DS1 or the beginning of 2, it seemed to flip the tables, and just..give up on that consistency. So, in response, did I. Rolling into enemies while they attacked was a bad idea logically, but it works here, because you seem to phase out of existence while rolling. Gimping yourself to play at 30fps makes the game run better for some inane reason. Armour does very little, and isn't even needed at all, arguably, because if you have none, you're doing the roll in-attack-roll out method even easier then.

So, I found myself, in the end, part of what was a really involving and intriguing universe..but rolling around in my underpants like everyone else.

>>382951495
because it was the pinnacle of souls pvp. thats why it's so confusing to shitters who only coop and pve (most of /v/).

>>382951825
DeS is absolute dogshit you retarded nostalgia cuck. I would rather replay DaS2 than DeS.

>>382941927
Just use the Dark Knight Sword and call it a day.

>>382911734
PRRRRRT

>>382941927

>get halberd
>level STR and DEX
>upgrade it
>drop it for the Black Knight Halberd when you get it
>win game

>>382951938
das2 is the pinnacle of co-op too. no IP pooling, no gimped healing for phantoms so they can play entire levels, hosts can light bonfires etc.

>>382951975
Atmospherically, Demon's Souls wipes the fucking floor with Dark Souls 2. You'd have to be one of these fuckwads that plays these games because you think they're hardcore to think otherwise.

>>382946508
Souls pvp is for losers and trash who can't play real pvp games like CS:GO, LoL, Dota2, Overwatch etc.

Soulsborne is primary PvE game, the PvP is a small sidegame aspect.

>>382917880
>This same "fast travel is bad" meme
so how come no one ever complains about it in bloodborne?
if they named dark souls 2 something else like "abyss souls" I guarantee fags like you would love it.

okay, legitimate question. Why does DaSIII look visually worse than bloodborne? I've finally decided to actually beat DaSI and I've been looking at the subsequent games as a result. I know TECHNICALLY it's not better when you look at texture quality and lighting stuff, but at first glance bloodborne looks more visually pleasing. When I look at DaSIII it looks like an expansion of the first game with zero visual upgrades.

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>>382952359
>LoL, Dota2
>click
>click
>click
Yea thats really top tier pvp

>>382911919
now T H I S is shitposting

What were the most stressful and difficult bosses for you?

>>382952303
Atmisphere is the combination of visuals, sound and purpose. Thanks to the absolute piss dogshit colors and lighting effects of DeS, paired with a horrible blurry effect, the "atnosphere" of DeS was nothing more than dogshit to me. The depressive journey of DaS2 with momentary solace like majula had a better atmosphere than DeS. They all pale in comparision to BB.

DeS is dogshit.

das2 is a fucking mess

>>382952517

Sony pushed Bloodborne, its a lot more spectacular then it needed to be, but it represented the PS4 so it was spruced up.

From did DaS3 by themselves and they did about what could be expected graphics wise.
It runs a lot better than BB though.

>>382952498
>so how come no one ever complains about it in bloodborne?
wut?! everyone complains about it in BB, having to sit through two long ass loading screens to level up or resupply is just fucking stupid.

>People thinking DeS is better than anything

Why is /v/ filled with contrarians?

>>382952883
are there visual mods similar to DaSI?

>>382952564
>no skill shitter making excuses
Kek.

I loved how the hollowing in DS1 was some grand, horrible curse that echoed throughout all of humanity, forcing them to either go mad completely, or kill their fellows for the few scraps of humanity they could scrounge up. All while fighting to rekindle the first flame and gain some respite. It felt apocalyptic in the highest.

In DS2, it's really just the Wizard of Oz. You show up in Majula, and the lollipop guild tells you to go seek the king, who will solve all your problems, because...well, just because. And you go on a technicolor rollercoaster ride where the hollowing isn't such a big deal, because the good witches can pray it away, or getting the ruby slippers from the DLC bosses can make you immune. To top it off, SotFS includes Aldia, the actual wizard, whose giant head can answer all your concerns, and start you on the journey that will send you right back to Kansas, Dorothy!

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>>382952359
The pvp was always one of the most standout features of the game you delusional autist. A massive amount of effort was clearly put into implement, balancing and even encouraging pvp and invasions in EVERY SINGLE soukls game and your saying it's a small side game? Ridiculous.
whinny bitching casuals like you are what helped ruin what used to be a more central part of these games and is slowly being removed or discouraged. Literally get gud.

>>382953018
It's better than DaS2 at the very least.

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>>382911734
>Bloodborne is a good game guys I swear!

It actually is, though

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>>382951825
This is an old webm and you can barely see whats going on but look at this shit, the interior of the cathedral from the snowy dlc, whatever its name was, is just plan bricks as far as the eye can see, just a small brickwall texture copypasted into the infinite, and there is a lot of areas just like this one, just some gigantic flat wall without any kind of care or thought put into it, covered in some plain texture probably made in under 30 minutes, it really bogs my mind how anyone can even compare this piece of uninspired shit to DaS.

>>382952837
What a terrible opinion, though I agree BB is the best here.

>>382953103
Debatable.
It certainly is not better than SotFS.

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>>382951825
>lack of atmosphere

Yeah, this is the main issue with DS2 when it comes down to it. DS1 and DS3 actually feel like a high fantasy world gone to shit.

Dark souls 2 has areas like this, which dont even make any sense. And then there's a random ornstein fight. Because reasons.

>>382953018
They are not contrarians, they are legit mentally ill, nostalgia blinded nostalgia cucks high on nostalgia, most of them haven't played DeS in years, they just post about it; if they did play it, they would see what dogshit DeS is. They should be tortured to death irl.

>>382953256
that area looks awesome, though.

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>>382953025
>CS:GO, LoL, Dota2, Overwatch
Summer needs to end.

>>382953328
>posts raving mad while calling others mentally ill
What bizarre level of irony are you on right now?

>>382953328
This is your average underage third worder trying desperately hard to fit in lmfao

>>382953028

>In DS2, it's really just the Wizard of Oz

But that's bullsh-
>opening cinematic sees you being swallowed up by a storm
>waking up in a strange land
>where witches are mean to you
>but kind folks in a nearby town set you on the path
>to seek the all-powerful ruler
>who can set things right

well fuck.

>>382916907
But that's exactly what people do with DS2 too.

>>382953195
It is a fact, not opinion. Atmosphere can't effectively exist when you have dogshit lighting, colors and blur ruin any sense of immersion, put on top of that a fragmented piece of shit world that isn't connected and you have the dogshit that is DeS. It was a good game when it cane out, because there was nothing better. Every sooulsborne game that came after it is superior to it. It also has the worst healing system in the franchise.

>>382953328
>my first Souls game was Dark Souls

>>382953039
Not him but he's partly right (wouldn't call it a small sidegame aspect)

Miyazaki only ever intended for invasions to be a neat mechanic fitting into the lore of stealing humanity and the callous atmosphere of the Souls universe to enhance the PvE experience. Hence why in DaS1 you can't be invaded in areas you've beaten the boss in. Never did they expect a SL120 min-maxing duel meta to become the focal point for most players.

>>382953028
I mean you never actually cure the curse nor does Aldia explain anything beyond the background which any other character can do (and Vendrick does). In fact his final speech is just random pseudo-philosophical shit that is only barely relevant to the theme of the game.

>>382953256
I dont get how can anyone defend DS2 when it's so obviously made by a different team that tried too hard to copy the original but without knowing what they were doing and why, just look at what you posted, yeah some kind of big ass monastery/city thats half sunken into the sea, thats cool, that SOUNDS like something that could be in Dark Souls right? yeah and that was exaclty the thought of the devs, "yeah I guess this is something I can expect from Dark Souls" but thats just poor imitation of the results rather than the source, it's like some random guy trying to direct Drive 2 and thinking about scenes that resemble the first one, it's gonna end as a shitty knock-off.
>>382953363
Yeah and thats probably the only consideration the devs had making the areas.

For anyone that wants to know more about what happened during DaS 2 development.

http://peterbarnard1984.tumblr.com/post/113163062955/dark-souls-2-design-works-translation

>>382953256

Not that I disagree, but what's wrong with that area?

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>>382920549
HAHAHAHAH

>>382953737
My first Souls was DaS, which I replayed to death and I'm waiting for RPCS3 to make DeS playable because it looks amazing.

>>382953502
I am 26, live in the netherlands, been on this shithole for many years, never tried to fit in, just here to say my opinion and tell low IQ subhumans like you to die from cancer.

Fuck DeS, it is dogshit. Fuck DeS, fuck nostalgia cucks. Fuck DeS. Fuck DeS. Fuck DeS.

>>382954001
Lmfao subtract 10 years and then divide by two and that's your real age.

>>382920549
Was there evidence beforehand that would lead players to be suspicious of the floor? Or is it just artificial difficulty?

>>382953776
>pseudo-philosophical

What makes it pseud? I've just reread and it seems to be more poetry than philosophy.

>>382953704
>It was a good game when it cane out, because there was nothing better. Every sooulsborne game that came after it is superior to it.
Except for Dark Souls 2, which just so happens to have worse lighting, color usage, use of space, and environmental detail than it. The world design is so much cooler in Demon's Souls there's just no competition between these two.

>>382953387
I would rape your whore mother in front of you, I hate you retards so much. Those are real PvP games, not DaS PvP Soulsborne genre is a PvE experience. Die a painful death retatded trash.

>>382920246
I had more fun replayed 2 than 3.

>>382954001

>netherlands
>that typing

Shit, other anon hit the nail right on the head.

>>382953175
Good example. That's exactly what Dark Souls 2 is full of. If you stop and look around at just about any of the game's locations, you'll notice the horrible use of size and space in the environments. When the other games have huge rooms or structures, there is a sense of grandeur or dread associated with their size, but in Dark Souls 2 it just feels like the level designers were sloppy.

>>382953839
How obvious it is doesn't matter. Tanimura literally said that they had no idea what a dark souls game was supposed to be fundamentally so they just fucked around until they had to make something stick, which ended up being the PVP. This was a decision that would later go on to ruin DS3 post release with the balance patches because PVP souls is literally all these people know and as Miyazaki made note of he didn't give the slightest shred of a shit what the gameplay balance was like, only how the weapons "felt". Being completely invested in the new IP that he immediately tried to advertise the day TRC was over and done with did not help either.

>>382954134
Not him, and I think the way he worded his comment was fucking stupid, but DeS is overhyped as fucked purely from nostalgia alone and the fact that it came before DaS. That's coming from someone who actually enjoyed the game when it first came out but isn't so deluded that he can't acknowledge that DaS is superior in every way.

>>382953839
Yeah, it looks like a Yes album cover.

Locations in DS1/3 feel like lived in spaces that had history to them

>>382954289

You must go back to Youtube, Nethertrash.

>>382954481
Yes, because Blight Town and Anor Londo architecture is suited for human habitation.

Get off your high horse.

>>382954461
>overhyped
It's an 8 year old game. No one hypes it anymore. It's talked about less than any of the other games because of its age plus console exclusivity. And it was the first entry in this recent series of theirs, making it the most original experience of them, so you're wrong to undermine its value and call it overrated if that's what you meant.

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>>382954641
Blight town is a place for toxic ridden subhumans.

Anor Londo is a baller Lord of the Rings style super city.

That picture from ds2 is a prog rock album cover.

>>382954214
WHAT WORLD YOU RETARDED NOSTALGIA KEKED MENTALLT ILL SON OF A WHORE??????? DES HAD NO EORLD DESIGN, IT WAS A FRAGMENTED PIECE OF SHIT. THE ZONES DON'T CONNECT TO EACHOTHER, THERE IS NO WORLD. FUCK YOU, DIE A PAINFUL DEATH. I BITE MY PILLOW REALLY HARD AND PRETENDED IT WAS YOUR NECK. I HATE YOU CANCEROUS SONS OF WHORES SO MUCH. I'VE NEVER SEEN A SOULSBORNE FAN IRL WHO CLAIMS DES IS GOOD, IF I DO I WILL BRUTALIZE AND MAIM HIM FOR LIFE.

>>382954686
>Two areas that loop back around unto themselves

I can't tell if people are retarded or retardedly memeing.

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>>382954838
There's more then a few areas that have completely shit designs in DaS2. Especially some of the notorious bonfires that are set too close to the enemies.

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>>382954686
>people defend this stupid looking shit

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>>382954672
I should clarify that I'm not trying to undermine the fact that it was a good game. I put countless hours into replaying it over and over. But the people who love the game REALLY love it and say it's better than any other souls game and that the others are trash by comparison. Not saying they can't have their own opinion but the majority of people who claim DeS is the best usually end up shitposting about how shit DaS is in DaS threads. Perhaps due to the fact that DeS doesn't have any dedicated threads these days. Basically I'm trying to say both sides of the argument over which souls game is better has more than it's fair share of retards.

>>382954838
It kind of breaks the illusion of the game when it pulls that "waist high barrier that you could easily pull yourself up over prevents you from moving back" bullshit

also its nonsense architecture, like the doors that open up to fatal drops. who would put a door on a side of a building that just gets people killed?

>>382954394
Ik neuk je kanker hoeren moeder kanker turk/marokkankeraan. Ga dood aan aids. Sterf een pijnvolle dood mongool.

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>>382951825
2's atmosphere is fucking great, especially against the MMO-themepark feel of 3, you tasteless fucking idiot.

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>>382955130
>no one replied to me
>better reply to myself
Here you champ.

>>382954686
>first stops you immediately going backwards after activating the elevator
>second encourages you to actually kill the smelter demon for a bonfire for an shorter route to old iron king

could have been more subtly implemented but nothing mechanically wrong with these

>>382955261
>talks about themepark in 3
>when No-Mans-Wharf exists

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>>382955130
Fucking rekt
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>>382955261
2's atmosphere would have been great if the game didn't look like a fucking cartoon.

>>382955275
What? Are you implying I'm samefagging? lmao.

>>382955282
>mechanically wrong
Sure, no problems there. But you seem to be overlooking the much bigger problem, which is that aesthetically they make no damn sense at all and are uninteresting to look at. Why the fuck would they be built like that?