Argue.

DaS > BB > DeS

The other two don't really matter, rank them as you will.

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Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 1 > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 2 > Shit > Dark Souls 3

Any "Souls-Borne" fan who hasn't played Demon's souls is fake.

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>>382911176
Also anyone who uses the term "Souls-Borne" unironically needs a bullet through the skull.

>>382910791
All of these games are fucking terrible

>make a generic fantasy action """""RPG"""""" with shallow uninteresting bare bones combat
>have literally no story but sprinkle in some half finished poorly thought out """"''lore""""" so retards will think the game is deep
>don't put any checkpoints anywhere so retards will think the game is hard
>rehash this 5 times and change literally nothing except for the one time when you add guns to trick retards into thinking that your innovating your """"sequels""""" at all
>laugh your way to the bank

The boner /v/ has for this shit series is fucking baffling.

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DaS1 > BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

I mostly enjoy the games for their worlds and environments. DaS1 and BB both have fantastic worlds to explore with seemingly infinite secrets to discover and sights to see. Seeing Ash Lake for the first time, watching the world change with growing Insight, those are the moments I love about the games. BB has slightly more interesting environments, but the gameplay can bring it down sometimes. Issues such as a healing item that can require grinding, limited weapon/build variety, and, a personal pet peeve, bosses that screech non-stop. That's what places DaS1 above BB for me. The quiet exploration of desolate castles and overgrown forests in DaS1 is powerful. Add to it solid/reliable combat and mechanics, and it ranks at the top. DaS3 is weaker than both, but still beats out DeS for me. DeS has some wildly unique and interesting ideas. Despite this, many feel poorly implemented or mired by what is clearly their first time working with this kind of game. More importantly, DeS doesn't have the most interesting areas to explore. Tower of Latria will always be amazing, but DaS3 easily beats DeS out for the sheer number of interesting areas. I appreciate DeS for what it is, but if I had to replay one of the two it would be DaS3. DaS2 is a poorly thought out mess. Any criticism I have for it has assuredly been stated before and by much better individuals who can break down the exact problems. I enjoyed the game, but it is easily the weakest for me personally due to the uninteresting and bland environments. The most interesting environments for me were the Dragon Aerie and Shrine of Amana, both being rather simple in their design, often ruined by certain mechanics/design decisions.

But hey, opinions. Mine are just based on the enjoyment of exploring each game's worlds and how the gameplay layered on top of the feeling of loneliness and discovery. To each their own though. I wouldn't criticize anyone for having the total opposite experience.

>>382910791
Demons > Bloodborne > DaS3 > DaS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superman 64 > DaS2

BB > DaS > DeS

>>382911176
>Demon's souls was the best of the series
Fuck off dude, that's "objectively" a horrible opinion

Demon's Souls > Dark Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls III > Dark Souls II

>>382911176
>>382911291
anyone who actually enjoys soulsshit needs to be castrated and put in a zoo

Will someone please add the N-Sane Trilogy to that pic

Reminder if you think dark souls 2 is bad you belong on r/gaming ;^)

>>382913972
There is no objective thing about Souls 2 that doesn't scream garbage except for PVP and build variety

>>382910791
Your first souls game > every other game in the series

>ANY soulsbourne game>shit>>>>>>>das2
Do I fit in yet?

>>382910791
DaS 2 is the best

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DaS3 > BB > DaS > DeS > DaS2

>>382914117
Wrong, my first Soul game was the first one.

3 and BB are way better

>>382914047
The fact that DS2 had arguably the most enjoyable PvP experience even with the shit stain that is soul memory says a lot.

>>382914160
This but DaS3=BB

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Dark Souls 3 is so fucking bland and uninspired, I don't know how anyone ranks it as anything other than the worst. There's nothing original about it on its own, at least Dark Souls 2 tried to be creative even if it's poorly designed.

BB > DaS > DeS > DaS2 > DaS3

I rank BB as the best because the Souls games are clunkier by design, BB is faster paced. Though BB would be so much better if there was a Pro patch. The framerate/frame-times makes it feel constantly jittery.

>>382914919
>at least Dark Souls 2 tried to be creative even if it's poorly designed.
Everything "new" in DS2 is just a throwback to demon souls or kings field, except for when it just decides to rehash DS1 for literally no reason (DS3 is a direct sequel and it doesn't ever stoop as low as literally reusing a boss from DS1 like DS2 does with old dragonslayer)

DS3 has nothing original except for stuff like the farron legion, the entire concept of The Deep as something seperate from Dark and all the stuff relating to that, cathrus and all the stuff relating to that, the big ice theme the game has, ect.

Mechanically projectile weapons and items are useful for literally the first time in the entire series, stealth/support magic is useful for the first time ever, you actually have a reason to use faith miracles to do damage now, they brought back the actual good mechanics from demon souls like the luck stat and all the infusion types while improving on them, ect

Bloodborne is the most refined experience, fast paced, aesthetic and exciting all throughout, with it's drawbacks being the Chalice Dungeons and Invasions in general.

Dark Souls is my first game of the series and personal favorite. I was a little pussy and would always pull the cable when someone invaded me. My experience was virtually solo, since I never summoned any players either. I have no idea why I didn't just play offline.

DaS2 is annoying to play with its artificial dificulty and clunky controls but it does some things right, like the high stamina consumption of rolls and Estus not healing you immediately. I only came to appreciate these aspects long after playing the game. It's still shit though.

Dark Souls 3 is... good, I guess. My first time with the game wasn't so great. I even had to restart after getting to Farron's Keep because the gameplay was tiring. Things went more smoothly when I started over though. If I were to call attention to one thing about this game it would be the rolling spam. Fuck that shit. Never noticed how annoying that was until I played this game's PvP. Absolute cancer. Makes me appreciate Dark Souls 2's PvP even more in hindsight.

BB> DaS > DaS3 > DaS2

>>382917498
Another thing I came to appreciate about DaS2 was the enemies' tracking. It encourages players to dodge when they should dodge, instead of mashing Circle repeatedly whenever an enemy flinches. I still think it was badly executed since every fucking enemy had tracking but the idea was nice.

Bloodborne > Dark Souls = Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2.

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I've played DeS, BB and I'm finishing up Sotfs, I've never played 1 or Vanilla 2.
BB=Sotfs>DeS
Maybe it's the huge jumps back and forward between the order. But I really like Sotfs.

>>382917498
> If I were to call attention to one thing about this game it would be the rolling spam. Fuck that shit. Never noticed how annoying that was until I played this game's PvP. Absolute cancer. Makes me appreciate Dark Souls 2's PvP even more in hindsight.
It's a requirement given the faster pace that enemies attack you in this game compared to previous non BB souls games.

The fact that its annoying in PVP is irrelevant because the PVP is a minigame and not the core focus. DS3 pvp is set up to focus more on group fights because of the reworked dried finger and other tweaks, so catching someone rolling is not too hard (especially because of stuff like throwing knives actually being good and farron darts)

>>382917498
ds2 rolls with high agility have more i frames than DS3, they use more stamina but everything in DS2 uses insane amounts of stamina so it balances out

Which of these 5 games had the best final area to you guys?

>Demon's Souls
Beat all the demons and jump into the nexus
>Dark Souls
Beat the lords and put their souls into a vessal to open a door to the great lord gwyn who may or may not be alive
>Dark Souls 2
Confront Nashandra in Drangleic Castle
>Dark Souls 3
Beat all the lords of cinders and travel to the Dreg Heap, Ringed City and Kiln of the First Flame
>Bloodborne
Moon Presence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki3m-V3apxI

Why is the assault rifle from Gears of War in Demon's Souls?

>>382916141
>ds2 does nothing new
improved upgrade system
powerstancing
the adp/agility stat
soul memory
four ring slots
the ability to summon your friends
hello?

>>382911176
Demons souls was objectively a Dark Souls beta test. Dark Souls took the exact same mechanics and improved them to a t. That said, its still better than 2 or 3 and the I agree with you for the most part.

>>382917967
objectively this

>>382910791
All shit.

>>382919176
>final area
>Moon Presence
are you a mong?

>objectively
you guys need to cut this retarded shit out

>>382919176
the area in des and das are super close, but des slightly edges it out. all of the other ones dont really come close imo

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Crash Bandicoot > Bloodborne = Dark Souls > Demon's Souls = Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

BB>DaS>DeS>DS3>DS2

BB exchanges world design for better individual level design and better combat (and by extension boss fights). The core 'go check the optional places' is still there, but rarely to the extent of stumbling onto a new level.

These threads should be deleted on sight. Insufferable fucks.

Lucatiel > Solaire > Sirris

Which game in the series has the best punching?

>>382920709
sirris is so boring. i dont i've ever completed her questline. i dont even know what's she's fighting for

>>382920819
She wants to kill her mad grandfather.

>>382910791
We have the same fucking thread every single day
>>382911946
(You)
>>382920575
LMAO epik joke bro, have an upboat xDD

>>382921013
for what reason is she in the darkmoon covenant

>>382910791
I've only ever played Demon's Souls but I just bought the rest of the games
What am I in for?

Nioh

>>382910791
Why do people like the first Dark Souls so much? It was an unfinished mess and everything after Anor Londo is a massive drop in quality.

Bloodborne > Nioh = Dark Souls = Demon's Souls > Dark Souls III >>>> Dark Souls II

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>>382910791
DaS = DaS2 SotFS = DeS = BB >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>> DaS3
Dark souls 3 is bland frankenstein of a game, they tried to just mash all the games together, no originality and bland ass gameplay. Everything else was pretty fun.

>>382911006
DaS2 > DaS3 > DaS > BB > DeS, exactly

>>382910791
DS2 > DS1 > DS3 = BB > DeS

1 was good, 2 improved on 1 in litterally every way except interconnecting maps. 3 and BB were both bad games made to pander to the DS1 fangays who though 2 was horrible

anyone who tells you demons still holds up is looking through their nostalgia goggles.

that said, all 5 games are great.

>>382922169
>>382922071
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>>382921068

In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:

>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights

>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death

>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks

>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons

>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)

>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun

>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again

>>382922554
>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks
This in particular. 3 damn near punishes you for invading.

>>382922223
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>>382910791
BB>DaS>>>>DaS III>>>shit>>>>>>DaS II

@382922798
try harder
you're not getting another (You) that easily

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>>382922169
>anyone who tells you demons still holds up is looking through their nostalgia goggles.
>that said, all 5 games are great.

Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

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>>382910791
Sorry bros, Pewds already solved this one

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DaS3 > DaS > BB > power gap > DaS2 > DeS

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>>382910791
BB2>>>>>DaS1>BB>DaS2>DaS3>DeS

>>382923068
I mean holds up compared to the other games. It can't hold a torch to any of the Dark souls games.

>>382910791
Definitive rankings for base game:

BB>DaS1>DaS3>DeS>DaS2

DLC

BB>DaS2>DaS3

In short, BB is the distillation of all the good PvE elements of the Souls game. it's also the worst PvP among the rest.

>>382923282
he's almost right

Dark Souls 2 > Demon Souls > Dark Souls > Dark Souls III > Bloodborne lol who even played this

BB= DS>DeS

Haven't played DS2 or 3

I don't know why people like DeS more than DS but it had one of the best levels boloteria.
You start at boleteria and you finish at Boloteria.

>>382922840
Calling Demon Souls shit is a bit too harsh anon

>>382912072
Solid rankings but I'd personally do

DaS1 > BB = DaS3 > DeS > DaS2

>>382923813
Put 2 in front of 3 and you're good to go

>>382916141
>stealth/support magic is useful for the first time ever
No it isn't. Vancian system is garbage but this is worse.
>you actually have a reason to use faith miracles to do damage now
You seem to be confused. DaS3 miracles don't do damage.
>Infusions
But all the infusions that aren't hollow, sharp, heavy, quality and maybe raw are garbage. Simple had some point when you could use WA whenever you had a single point of mana and the health regeneration infusion shouldn't even exist. HP regen on equipment was a mistake when DaS2 added a ring that gave you regen but could break and it's even more of a mistake now that DaS3 tripled down on it.

>>382918695
But iframes seem to cap out at 16 for DaS2 when agility is at the max which is the same as the regular DaS3 roll with the iframe boosting ring.

>>382920025
>the adp/agility stat
>soul memory
Yes, these are great additions. I wish DaS3 could have taken these wonderful ideas from 2. I'd also like to not have red eye orbs in the game and have cracked orbs be a major fucking chore to farm.

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>>382910791
DS1>DS3>DS2>DeS>BB

>>382924074
>doesn't own a ps3/ps4
Don't make it so obvious.

Dark Souls 3 does literally nothing better than Dark Souls 2.

>>382910791
how about playing the one you enjoy, discussing cool shit you did in them with other anons and stop being a fag?

>>382910791
BB>DS1>DS>DS2>DS3

>>382912072
I like the exploration too but some things are way too criptic.
Like Ash lake behind two hidden walls.

>>382919868
Devs were dicking around and made a joke animation or something.

What is worst enemy and why is the squiddude?

>>382924478
Nothing except much better graphics, better controls and feel, a solid interconnected world similar to the first Dark Souls, deleting soul memory and the need to use sl to gain i-frames, fun covenants that actually work as they should, and better and more varied bosses. Other than that though yeah Dark Souls 3 does nothing better than Dark Souls 2.

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>>382910791
Nioh>soulborne baby shit

>>382910791
Bloodborne > Dark Souls > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 2

Out of all the souls games who is the best boss and what is the beet weapon?

>>382925739
*best

>>382925739
Artorias or Gael

Best weapon is subjective, especially to compare them all across all games.

>>382923978
whether you like them or not is your own opinion. i was just trying to make the point that das2 did try new things.
das3 is the the uninspired souls title

>>382910791
Ds1>BB>DS3>sotfs>Des>>>>>>>>ds2

>>382925739
Artorias.
He's fun.

>>382926262
This but DeS before SotFS, all in all the shitties version of vanilla DaS2 is wtill better than most nu gen games

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>>382910791
PvP is:
DaS1 (b-but m-muh b-backstabs I'm shit at the game and I can't counter them) > DaS2 = DeS >SHIT>DaS3>BB
Prove me wrong, You literally can't.

>>382927287
DaS3 > DaS2
DaS3 pvp is basically DaS2 pvp without retarded buffs

>>382927626
I refuse to believe there is someone this retarded. Ranking DaS3 higher because of buffs? Just a reminder that you can wait out the buffs, if you want to, and there are 9000 ways to punish them in dark souls 2 (ringswapping to elemental rings, eating a burr, stacking elemental resist armor). And buffs are even worse in dark souls 3.

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DaS3 60fps +4k > DeS > DaS > BB 20 fps > DaS2

Playing Demon Souls after playing any other Souls game is such a hardcore struggle.
Not because of anything else but because of how shit ugly ass, clunky and unfinished everything is, jesus. I still am going through it because I love the setup and the mood, and I want to see where From Soft copypasted everything from, but this shit takes dedication to reap enjoyment from.

>>382925425
>Better and more varied bosses
>Covenants that work
>Better "feel"
>similar world to Dark Souls 1 at all

Anon pls

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DS1=BB>DS3>DeS>DS2

>>382928650
Half the bosses in DaS2 are guys in armor.

They all work perfectly, as opposed to DaS2 where you can't even get a red eye orb. And the fucking dragon covenant, all you do is place a sign and have a duel. How half-assed is that?

Subjective but important. DaS3 has the most polished movement and animations of any game, including BB.

It's interconnected and feels whole, unlike DaS2 where Iron Keep in somehow floating up in the sky. Not as good as 1 but still better than 2. Though both DaS2 and 3 would have better worlds if they didn't have fast travel enabled from the start. Just the presence of fast travelling bonfires means that they don't have to connect the world in any meaningful sort of way.

>>382924478
Online matchmaking
Really online in general unless you're a 1v1 duelfag
Magic, projectile weapons and items
Level design and setpieces
Combat
Covenants and NPC quests
The fact that it doesn't have stupid mechanics like soul memory, agility, lifegems, no dedicated drop rate stat, infusion + buff stacking, or extremely boring NPC invasions in every single area

DS3 = game for people that want a fun single player game while playing around in multiplayer and seeing wacky stuff happen

DS2 = game for autistics that take the competitive multiplayer in these games seriously instead of a real competitive game with netcode that works and people that think having a ton of mediocre content is somehow better than having less actually thought out content because they have a skinner box mentality and throw a fit if they can't get a new virtual sword every 5 seconds

theyre all the same
and they all suck
edgy looking games that take no skill
just roll and hit people for 1hp while they hit u for 50 if u dont dodge in time
makes it look badass for kids like woah dude that guy op
yeah it actually is just boring
and there are actually people who discuss and look up builds and stuff to actually get good at it
lmao

>>382924420
>owns a ps3/ps4
im sorry

>>382929395

You forget how Farron's covenant was absolutely empty on release and not a single soul ever was summoned through it (because why would you even want to be?), how Aldrich's was just entirely devoid of anyone to invade because the area was so tiny you could just skip it altogether, how you would never-ever get a blue phantom summoned to help you.
Most importantly, however, you somehow forget that literally all covenants in DS3 may very well be entirely pointless as they provide no rewards of worth whatsoever except mabe Aldrich's hex, if you want to stretch it.

I defy you to tell why would anyone ever play the Moud Makers or Watchers of Farron for any other reason but to struggle at getting subpar PvP out of it (if that), and I defy you to find someone to have managed to use the Darkmoon Blades or Aldrich's faithfuls to earn its rewards before just giving up and farming the items.

>>382929970
>You forget how Farron's covenant was absolutely empty on release and not a single soul ever was summoned through it (because why would you even want to be?), how Aldrich's was just entirely devoid of anyone to invade because the area was so tiny you could just skip it altogether

Why are you actively lying? These are two rather large areas that literally everyone has to go through. Meanwhile in DS2 you have the beltower covenants that are in literally optional small side areas (SOTFS even moves the semi important item out of luna) and the rat covenants which was again in a small optional area and also extremely unfun for both sides.

The idea that DS3 is any harder to get invasions in than DS2, the game with soul memory, is fucking laughable.

>how you would never-ever get a blue phantom summoned to help you.
Which was fixed when you could equip WoB mid invasion. DS2 had way more updates than DS3 did and yet there was never a fix for how fucking worthless WoB and blue invasions in general was (Why does blue area, the thing people already never use, use up your token every time you compete while red area lets you keep the token?)

>Most importantly, however, you somehow forget that literally all covenants in DS3 may very well be entirely pointless as they provide no rewards of worth whatsoever except mabe Aldrich's hex
Obscuring ring? A bunch of stuff for fun gimmick builds like warmth or the luck scaling staff? How are these worse than "win 500 times in a row in the arena to get a mediocre spell"? The only covenant rewards that are worth anything at all are vanquisher seal (pointless now that bone fist exists) and sun sword (but quality builds are worthless in DS2)

If nothing else DS3 has an invasion covenant while DS2 does not, just duel covenants.

>>382929970
>>382930651
Oh, I actually forgot something. DS3 covenants take up their own slot, so I dont have to sit there gimping myself by equipping the way of blue/belfry/rat rings and hoping that the stars align and I find someone within my soul memory range that I can actually interact with who happens to be in the specific area at the specific time I'm playing

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>>382929970
I got DMB from two days of having the covenant equipped. Sure it's kind of slow but so what? I don't remember everything being so broken at launch either, I've not once had any problem summoning a blue when I get invaded. And Aldrich is easily the most active covenant, I don't even have time to take the covenant item off being I get summoned again (and this is almost a year and a half after the game's release too). Mound Makers are the most half assed sure but they can still be fun in a wildcard sort of way. The only point you might have is the Watchdogs which is sometimes slow but still not that bad. Combined with the fact that you actually get a red eye orb in 3 means that if your covenant is slow-going you can always just invade someone normally.

BB >> DaS3 > DaS2 >>>> DaS > DeS

>>382929970
>I defy you to tell why would anyone ever play the Moud Makers
You say this in defense of the game that has awesome covenants like "invasion covenant that never works and is actually about dueling" "blue covenant that never works because nobody invades" and a covenant that exists entirely to make the game more annoying than it already is by default