PRESS F TO PAY RESPECTS

>>382894982
cross buy lol :)

and Halo 5 alone is worth not being able to play any Sony cinematic experience exclusive

>>382894982

would buy if I had a 4k tv

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>>382894982
EXCLUSIVES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW WELL THE PS4/XBONE SELL

The average person prefers xbone ones, but the average person abrely gives a shit about either

>>382896556
>Halo 5
shit game, one of the worst I've purchased on Xbone

>>382897884
I hate console but why did the PS4 sell like 50+ mil while Xbox sold like ass?
This is dumb as shit

>>382894982
>NO GOOD EXCLUSIVE TITLES
So? Normies are the majority and they only care about multiplats which will all play and look better on xbone.

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>>382898330
>MP as good as 2 and 3
>Bad

>>382898447
Because Xbox shoot itself in the foot before the the gen even started.

>>382898447
mainly this >>382898735 with always online/no game sharing/being more expensive/being slightly less powerful

>>382894982
I don't know exactly what you want neogaf

you waited for the switch launch, before you are just saying the switch games proved to be good
now wait for the xbox one x launch before dropping your spaghetti, capiche?

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>60fps
good luck with that since shit gets knocked down to 30 to mantain parity
PC games got downgraded to match consoles now even console games are getting downgrades to keep them in line with eachother

>>382899924
>because

>>382894982
literally no reason to get a gaming PC

>>382899996
>they will
PCs are cucked because of all the dificulty to make it stable for so many diferent parts
the new xbox can has the luxury of a ultra mode because everyone using it will have the exact same setup
blame de lazy devs

>>382898330
name a better modern arena shooter ill wait

>>382894982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_7iD9wjdCE

>>382894982
This is not a video game enthusiast console.
It's shaping up to be amazing for people who don't have a PC, but it doesn't belong on this board where everyone owns a PC, PS4, 3DS and will own a Switch when it has more games if they don't already, because we like video games.

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>>382896556
>console fps

ha !

>>382901427
>This is not a video game enthusiast console.
It's shaping up to be amazing for people who don't have a PC, but it doesn't belong on NEOgaf where everyone owns a PC, PS4, 3DS and will own a Switch when it has more games if they don't already, because we like video games.
fixed for ya

>>382901520
sad that it's better than anything on PC rn but it's true

>>382896556
>implying Halo 5 wasn't another step in 343's obsession with killing the franchise and removing anything that made Halo good in the first place.

>>382901961
Halo was never good

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>>382901427
>>382901675
>NEOgaf
>liking video games
fix'd now
>This is a video game enthusiast console.
>It's shaping up to be amazing for people who don't have a PC, but it doesn't belong on NEOgaf where everyone owns a PSX, PS2, PS3 and will own a PS4 when it has more games if they don't already, because we hate video games.

>>382902007
americans love it though
they have shit taste in movies and vidya afterall

>>382894982
Who gives a shit? Every multiplat will run 100 times better than on any other console.

>>382902007
>Halo was never good

This

It plays like Second Life: the fps

>>382901520
>i am too dumb to use a controller

>>382902582
woah...ubishit will now run at 4k 60fps...now the game is good......

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>>382902115
fix'd

>>382903073
> hands are lighter
If he keeps up the hygiene he'll be white soon

>>382903073
go back to neogaf

>>382902594
Spot the sonybro

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>>382903073
trigger'd

>>382896663
They are less than $400 now anon, stop wasting your money on anime figures and join the 4k crowd

>>382894982
>"4K" a.k.a checkerboard except for non-intensive games like Forza
>30FPS for most of the titles except for the non-intensive ones... like Forza.
>No news
Fixed that for you, famalam.

>>382904220
>Implying this has anything to do with the strength of the console

sacrificing frames for graphics will always be an available trade off

At the end of the day it's still the most powerful console and shares its library with the most powerful platform overall :)

Daily reminder that exclusives are anti-consumer and you all got tricked into thinking they were somehow a good thing.

>>382894982
you forgot to add

>triggered sony.ggers

This alone is worth the investment.

>>382903073
My god I didn't know being black was contagious

>>382902787
>multiplats are only ubisoft games
>"le ubishit meme guise"
>the most anticipated and critically acclaimed piss4 game, horizon zero dawn is a copy of ubisofts formula.

it's good enough for sony.ggers. ;)

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Microsofts games are usually better than Sony"""""""games""""""""

>>382904969
hahahahahaha

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>>382904969
hm?

>>382905559
oh wow, a rehash

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>>382905559
Oh right that one good game Sony has from studio that isn't even first party, welp *goes back to playing The Order after pre-ordering Knack 2*

>>382898330
You never played the Multiplayer or you're probably one of those people who sucks and is a bronze

>>382906029
GUNSHOT FADE TO BLACK

FUCKING ART HOUSE BRILLIANCE

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>>382894982
>60fps
[citation need]

it's already been announced that destiny 2 is 30fps on xboxonexxboxonexboxx

everything will be 30fps to maintain parity with regular xbox one owners. this thing is such a fucking joke. what a piece of shit. literally no reason to buy one.

>>382906029
I know you aren't lying about preordering Knack 2. But at the same time... Knack 2 doesn't look half bad at all. The Order 1886 how much is it nowadays? I was thinking of picking it up if it was cheap.

>>382894982
>(((((4k))))))
>30 fps
When will console niggers ever learn.

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>>382906819
Knack 2 looks like the first one but bigger and with co-op. Completely fucking garbage. Of course the Sonygros hype this up as well. Just imagine being THIS desperate for games, that you hype up a sequel to a game that barely got above 50 points on Metacritic.

>>382896556
Honestly, I don't understand why you'd pay for Halo 5 ON CONSOLE when Halo Online is a free thing.

>>382897884
Actually, it has a bit to do with it.
Sure, people buy it mostly for multiplats but they'll more likely choose the console with the better exclusives and if their friends already own one or not

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>>382907520
The first knack had full co-op aswell.
Knack 2 looks to be a solid platformer. The first knack looked to be aswell but it was riddled with bad level design and they had to rush development for PS4 Launch.
Every problem in the first knack can be fixed with good level design.
>Being desperate for games
What do you mean?
PS4 has plenty of games. Another one doesn't hurt.

>>382894982
Would I like a PS4 if I don't like anime shit? I'm not into young girls who are sexually attracted to their big brothers.

>>382907863
>plenty of games
>all these unreleased games
>also on PC
>also on Xbox
>also on PS3
>literally the only game coming out in the next 6 months is Knack 2

WEW

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>>382906640

>>382908047
>literally the only game coming out in the next 6 months is Knack 2
Uncharted Lost Legacy comes out next month.

>>382894982

You have to wait for the XboXOneX_420_SNIPER_XXX Edition

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Believe in Vert-sama.

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>>382902115
>>382903073

obligatory

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>>382908446
>DLC

kek

>>382894982
Sony doesn't even have games, they have hold forward to experience cinematic experiences.

exclusives dont matter, value is what matters

>>382908446
Movies get DLC now?

>>382902307
and yet somehow halo is better than every movie 'game' Sony puts out because, well, halo has actual gameplay and not storytime.

>>382906029
Don't forget to press X then Triangle to finish that epic QTE my man

>>382906819
the order is always on sale for $5-$10. It's worth that price, all the shit it got was just over it not being worth the full $60, other than that it's not a bad game

>>382898447
>while Xbox sold like ass?
better than the PS3 last gen

>>382909219
>game
nah

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>>382894982
Really gets the neurons fired up.

>>382909270
Your point nigger?
Like fuck I even said in my last post that I do not care about your consoles just stating facts, keep crying that I said something mean about big ol nice ol microshit.

As someone who travels A LOT I swear Xbox is seen as "that weird console", aside of USA and UK.

These two countries keep Xbox afloat.

>>382909381
>indie shit
>system seller
>on Xbox of all places

Indeed it does fire neurons

>>382909920
Dont see how this matters

Only idiots will throw money away on the X when the S is a better buy all around.

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>>382909381
> nobody has a pc capable of running that behemoth of a game...

>>382894982
I'm sorry but can I play Halo, Gears, Forza, Ori, Sunset, Crysis,Cuphead, and State of Decay on PS4?

I don't get why people straight up lie in the OP post. Like, what's the point? There are plenty of games on Xbox One that are not on PS4.
If OP is insinuating that you can also play most of those on a windiws 10 PC, well, yiu would have to be pretty out of touch to think that hurts the X1X from a sales perspective. The overwhelming majority of people in the market for a console arw not gaming on capable PCs and won't not buy a consolw because "I can play that on my rig".
Also
>installing windows 10
You'd have to be double retarded. Admittedly I dual boot, but admittedly again I'm not most people.

For OP's argument to make sense, someone would need a high tier rig AND a PS4 pro, at which point the Xbox One X does become almost completely redundant, there's no argument there, but the idea that any more than 1/100 people will throw that much money at video games instead of just paying $500 is simply not true.

>>382894982
>Microsoft didn't learn the lesson that Nintendo did with the Wii U.
yeah, nintendo learned that they shouldnt make backwards compatible consoles
now they can sell all the wii u games again on switch

>>382908860
>>382909037
It is a standalone game.

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>>382894982
Hitting 60 fps 1080p on very high/ultra for every game would of been a better goal than 4k meme on some games.

>>382894982
Literally no one reason to buy one. I can spend $499 on a GPU (when miners aren't fucking the market) and get a better 4k experience. Their only exclusive I really liked was the Forza franchise, which they have inexplicably but to my benefit brought to the PC. Halo 5 is partially on the PC like Forza 6 was, leading me to believe the next iteration will be fully PC compatible, eliminating their only other exclusive.

Honestly though, the Xbox S/X is a really good buy if you don't care about Sony exclusives, don't want to buy into the PC ecosystem, and have a 4k TV. The 4k blu ray player that's included makes it a steal considering it'll also play multiplats.

>>382910520
Your post is 100% true. For the typical person that wants to just play vidya without putting much thought into it, the One X is a good deal, HOWEVER for the average enthusiast that plays here it's not necessary.

>>382898447
Microsoft sealed their fate at E3 when they announced the Xbone. Many normalfags jumped ship to PS4 and their friends followed, this is the main reason why Sony won't allow cross platform as well. They are in the lead and have no reason to do so because normalfags continue to buy PS4's to play multiplats with their friends.

>>382897884
I wonder where Uncharted 4 would be if it hadn't been a pack in title for awhile.

>>382911413
>Literally no one reason to buy one. I can spend $499 on a GPU (when miners aren't fucking the market) and get a better 4K experience
This is simply not true. I'm all for prefering PC. Hell, I do. But a comparable PC that will last as long will be much more expensive.
>Their only exclusive I really liked was the Forza franchise, which they have inexplicably but to my benefit brought to the PC. Halo 5 is partially on the PC like Forza 6 was
And they're both incomplete and unplayable messes. The windows 10 store is a complete disaster and you know it. The games generally don't have crossplay with X1 also, so they're also all dead. You can't find a game in gears 4 or Halo Wars 2 on PC.

Stop lying

>2017
>posting on a video games board
>being so out of touch with the market that you still act like it's 2004 and people give a shit about exclusives
Nobody cares anymore. I mean I do, you do. But the overwhelming majority of normies don't buy consoles for exclusives.

>>382912082
I didn't lie, you're just an idiot. Yes, a PC will cost more, but only once. After that, you just upgrade components when you want to. So the entry price is higher, but to go from 1080p gaming to 4k gaming is a GPU upgrade you can make for less than an XXX and will give better results. Also, this argument is fucking bullshit, because you've probably already purchased an Xbox One and now have to purchase an entire new console, making the actual price $800-$900. Factor in that in a few years you'll have to buy another entirely new console, and potentially lose your entire library in the process, not to mention the higher game prices, and a PC is more economical.

Horizon 3 plays fine you dipshit. The entire game is there, and if you could read, I said Halo 5 did a similar thing it Forza 6 Apex or w/e which was followed by a complete port of the next iteration, so I think it's likely a full port will come with the next iteration. I also said no reason for me, because I don't care about their five other fringe exclusives. The Windows Store is cancerous, but no more so than the Xbox One interface. Gears has always been shit and so has Wars. Couldn't care less about them.

I even said the Xbox S/X was a good buy if you meet certain conditions, but exclusives is barely a reason.

>>382913450
>I didn't lie, you're just an idiot
Oh wow fag, you showed me
>Yes, a PC will cost more, but only once
And he starts out fresh wuth another straight up lie. PCs are worth the investment, but they are a constant investment. Upgrading components is far more expensive alone than just buying one console. It's not even debatable.

>>382913736
Don't worry anon, none of us are falling for his shitposting. Of course a PC that can outdo the One X is ludicrously more expensive. I'd argue it's worth the price, but to lie and say it's not is just wrong.
That guy is just buttblasted that he can't command people to agree with him.

>>382913450
>all these falsities
Where do I even star-
>lose your entire library in the process
Nigger have you even been paying attention to what's happening?

>>382913954
He's not even worth arguing with. But by the looks of things nobody believes him so no worries.

>>382894982
>4k Resolution
Probably just upscaled 1080 shit
>60 fps
Try 24 - 30 locked

I'll never understand how people can buy a console once they've played something on pc. I bought a wireless controller so I can come home, start up a game and sit on my couch and play with actual good graphics.

Even if all you get are neet/autism bucks, you should be able to save up for a computer.

>>382914081
Because the overwhelming majority of people interested in AAA gaming don't give a shit about doing it on PC. There's a social negative stigma attached to it. Plus the majority of that market (teens) don't have the kind of money for PC investment and upkeep.

>>382914081
>6tflops

>>382914081
Normies neither care nor want to play on PC

>>382913736
>guys guys, look I've been practicing being retarded can you tell?
We can. What's the average life of a console before they go to the next one? 5 - 7 years? I've been using a 770ti since they came out and have been able to play everything 60 fps at 1080 with good settings. You shouldn't have to upgrade faster than the console market UNLESS you want it to look better than a console.

>>382914376
>we
Anon pls

>>382914081
>Using PC on the couch

lol no thanks

>>382914376
>hurr call him a retard
There is a reason you're having to argue with like 4 people by yourself

>>382914376
Thank you for proving my point. It's a better expwriwnce but it's much much more expensive. Period.

>>382914376
define "good"

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>keeping hearing 6teraflop meme
>decide to look up current graphics card.
>9 teraflops

How the fuck are people shilling this user powered piece of shit when it doesn't even have exclusives backing it up?

>>382914670
It's good for a console, but PC is still and always will be king

>>382914670
crossbuy, BC, Halo5, the best Insomniac exclusive of the gen, etc.

>>382894982
cuphead won't ever be on PS4

>>382900715
/thread

>>382914631
It's subjective to the game I'm playing? I can't hit ultra and keep 60 fps on something like Killing Floor, or Payday, I would have to put them to high. But obviously all of the indie shit I can max out no problem with a 5 year old card.

>>382910945
No, it's a Standalone DLC. It's a new single player campaign that's shorter than Uncharted 4 and has no multiplayer content.

>>382914876
lol

>>382914578
>lmao, if more people think the same retarded thing I do, it must be right

Tell me more about how justin bieber is the king of pop, and call of duty is the best shooter ever made.

Better yet, skip your flawed arguing, and just off yourself.

>>382898447
xbox had poor messaging which gave it a rocky start particularly in europe. with ps4 being the better console spec wise europeans got it to play fifa and buying consoles has a snowball effect with friends and shit. now europe is too far gone since they buy playstations to give to migrants as peace offering in an attempt to slow down the rape epidemic.

>>382914976
No it is a full standalone purchase.
It is as long as the first Uncharted game and has the full Uncharted 4 multiplayer included.

>>382915004
>losing argument
>"uh yeah w-well, KILL YOURSELF HAHAHA"
Just stop

>>382900284
> retard detected

>>382914670
Price

>>382896556
I actually agree that Halo 5 > Any Sony first party game.

>>382914670
> keep buying consoles because muh exclusives

Damn, faggots love getting cucked:
> Here have this exclusive
> q: Could it be better?
> a: Yeah but you will buy it here or no where at all
> oohh.. ok, fuck my ass while I shout to the world how good is it then.

It's like asking to get fucked up the ass every single time. Stop sucking companies dick or at least try not to smile while you have cum in your mouth cuckolds

>>382894982
Halo 5, Gears 4, and Forza are at the top of their respective genres. Quality games, and now we have a cheap $500 4K box to play them on.
>Halo 5 best arena fps on console
>Gears 4 best tps multiplayer
>Forza Horizon 3 with Hot Wheels expansion is perfect arcade racing
The Xbox might not have as much Japanese support as the other consoles, but most worthwhile Japanese games already go multiplat. The PS4/Vita exclusives are usually generic weebshit shovelware

>>382900715
>title says benchmarks
>no benchmarks
Nice bait.
Is this how brainwashing works.

How did we go from the 360, to this?

>>382917281
MS said "fuck you" to third party developers.

>>382907667
Because Halo5 MP is better

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>>382917404
>MS said "fuck you" to third party developers.
But Microsoft only has third-party developers?

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>>382917627
hence the xbone has no games.

except for the fact that 2017 has been a fucking ebin year to be an xbox fan!!! EVERYBODY ENJOYING HALO WARS 2?!?!

i know i am.

>>382897884
>Halo 5
>Gears of War 4
>Forza Horizon 3
>Forza Motorsport 6
>Exclusive

>>382918862

Where else can you play Forza 6 and Halo?

>>382912232
>But the overwhelming majority of normies don't buy consoles for exclusives.

yes they do.

>>382896556
>Halo has been utter garbage since odst
>microdicks tout it as 1 of scarce exclusives that are a must buy for the Xbone
>can't even bring it up without comparing it to Sony games
Truly pathetic, at least try to mask your insecurities

let's look at these two retarded statements.

>>382914730
>It's good for a console,

no it's not: 6tf/$499 = 4tf/$350*
*street price of the PS4pro

>but PC is still and always will be king

the PC is not a set thing. what you are saying is that the best hardware money can by at any given time is better than mass consumption hardware of the past.

>>382919923

Microsoft games ARE better and more upstanding than Sony games.

>>382919057
the better question is, why would anyone want to play either of those two games? Halo has been shit for years, 5 is no different, and Forza isn't worth a few hundred dollars, so why?

>>382894982
>Nintendo learned from the Wiiu

The Switch is basically a more mobile Wiiu!

>>382920056
>why would anyone want to play either of those two games?

I have both and they are great, I would want to play them as opposed to literally anything on pc or ps4

>>382920021
Nice bait, here's your (You) darling

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>>382903073
YEE NIGGA AFRICANS TAUGHT WHITES UOW TO WASH THEYSELVES

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET

>>382920213

Not bait, I bought a xbox one based on the games quality.

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>>382920021

They really are. I can only say that Until Dawn has probably been the only PS4 exclusive I've actually held in high regard. Nothing else beats a good Forza Horizon DLC map or Gears of War campaign on Xbox compared to anything I've played on the PS4. Hell even the broken state of Recore has been a better experience.

Don't get me wrong, I love my PS4, but if I was poor enough and I had to choose I'd be on Xbox in a second.

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>>382903073
YEE NIGGA AFRICANS TAUGHT WHITES HOW TO WASH THEYSELVES

WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET

>>382902704
>Eating with a fishing net

>>382902704
>I'm too stupid to use an efficient controller

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>>382920317
>quality
Uber Yikessssss

>>382920429
Is this real?

>>382920135
What do you gain from lying on the Internet?

What's the point of specs bragging if it's a console nowadays? Anyone who actually cares about that shit likely owns a PC. You get a console for the games and Xbone has no games. I don't see the point.

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>>382920396
>playing a racing game at 30fps

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>>382900284
>PCs are cucked because of all the dificulty to make it stable for so many diferent parts
Is this the new "humans can't tell 30fps and 60fps apart"?

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>>382921749
>backwards compatibility

>>382915743
>I don't have any actual points to this argument, what do I do? I'll just tell him to stop being right

Grab some bleach, friend.

>>382920717
Yes it is.

>nogs break into white family house violently
>little girl gets scared
>she's maybe 3 years old
>says blacks scare her because of the ordeal
>"THAT'S RACIIIIIST"
>idiot "judge" gives them a lighter sentencing because some idiots scared a toddler into saying she's afraid of blacks

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The power...of XboneX

>>382923441

Do you understand what's even going on in the graph?

>>382923441
>no title
>no axis labels
Wanna get the cocks outta your mouth for a second and give us some context?

>>382923864
>>382923868
Blue is XB1 at the resolutions listed, red is XB1X at 4k.

>>382923868

Some games in 4k in the xbox one x perform worse than they perform at the native resolution in the bone

>>382923441

This is a normal result, wouldn't be different in pc comparing two graphics cards at different resolutions.

>>382924314
If you were comparing an R7 260 to an RX 580 the 580 would still wreck the 260 even at a higher resolution on the same settings.

>>382924408
Not what I mean.

You would compare the 260 at 720p vs the 580 at 4k

>>382922867
that's what happens when you apply affirmative action to the legal system

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>>382894982

Maybe you guys who have xbones or want to get the xbox x should voice your gaming concerns to MS instead of shilling everything else around you huh?

>WE HAVE THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVERY MADE

Small library of exclusives because MS doesn't like third party, they only want 'AAA' stuff

>SONNYGERS AND NINTENFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH HAHAHAHAHAHA BTFO

Really makes you think

>>382924576
No, you would compare the R7 260 at 720p/900p/1080p to the 580 at 4k.

>>382925121

Point is, it's comparing a low powered gpu to a mid powered gpu at different resolutions, the mid powered gpu is bound to have lower fps count at the higher resolution some times, no shit sherlock.

>>382894982
>Forza 7 shits on GT Sports
>Crash remakes coming to Xbox One an will look and play better on Xbox One X
Must be another Sonyigger butt blasted thread.

>>382927346
Why do you think they didn't release crash on the bone simultaneously?