Are you holding off upgrading your PC?

Yeah. If I get this new job and save up some money, then I'll upgrade. It's been about 7 years.

No, I'm holding off building a pc. I fell for the gaming laptop meme and It's not cutting it anymore.

>>382821024
>7 years
you too? holding off till Zen 2 or 3
It's hard rolling with a 2600K and a 390 on a 4K display

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yes
3 y/o AMD crap
I'll probably just demote everything to an HTPC except the HDD

>>382821143
I wouldn't use a gaming laptop as your main pc. More like a side machine for when you chill with a drink at a cafe.

It wouldn't really be an upgrade since it broke a long time ago. I could probably salvage the HDDs and the disc drive, but it'd still be mostly a new system entirely.

yep, my last build was 5 years ago, haven't upgraded it since. when is the nvidia 1100 series supposed to come out?

>>382821519
Volta by the end of this year

>>382820865
there's nothing to upgrade for
so yeah

>>382820865
>Are you holding off upgrading your PC?
I'm done with it.

>>382820865
I'm done upgrading.
Fucking idiots think I need to run AAA games at 4K60fps.
Guess what, I'm not buying AAA games nor a 4K monitor nor eating shit.

>>382820865
Yeah, I want a ryzen mitx rig but there's only shitty biostar mobos available at the moment

>>382820865
>Are you holding off upgrading your PC?

I was until I got a gift card and decided to just grab a Ryzen 1800x and only pay the rest which was $27. Now I just need to get a Mobo and Ram.

Can't wait for more unoptimized software so people just upgrade their shit.
Fucking idiots shilling Windows 10 and they wonder why they have to buy i7 and whatever shit they sell.
AAA being bloom/dof/shit fest.
Indies can't even optimize 2 pixels.

>>382823164
>being this bitter
Do you find any joy in life?

>>382820865
Yeah, and all those bitcoin miners make fighting the temptation to upgrade the gpu now instead of building a completely new system later easier.

>>382820865
I'm probably going to wait for the next Nvidia flagship card. The GTX 1080 is great and all, but I really want to drop hundreds of dollars on a card that can only "kind of " do 4K in most games. I want to wait to upgrade until 4K is the standard that even mid range cards can do for most games, kind of like 1080p has been for the past few years.

>>382820865
You better be. Ram, SSD, and graphic cards are all nearing double the price they were a year earlier.

>>382823486
>Implying we'd be here if we did

>>382820865
No point in upgrading for a long while. I won't upgrade until I start having issues maintaining 1080p, 60fps in modern games.

>>382824080
that's only DDR3

>>382820865
i7 7700k and gtx 1080
whats there to upgrade?
dont care about 4k meme

>>382825448
Where did I mention 4K?

If you were in front of me i'd kick your ass for testing my patience.

>>382820865
q6600 7870 and 4gb ram

when anime support 4k, i ll upgrade my pc

>Miners buying all graphics cards
>NAND shortage

Now is a bad time to upgrade.

My card is currently a 970, I'll upgrade next cycle when the new cards are released.

>>382825704
It's baffling to think Japan is the leader in camera technology and slow to adopt it in their media

>>382825794
Did you even read the thread?

>>382825572
you wont do shit pusy

>>382825572
you couldn't hit what you couldnt see...kid...

>>382820865
I have 1600 euros right now, I was waiting for coffee lake + volta, but after doing some research and learning about AMD's infinity fabric, I am going to wait a bit longer for AMD Zen 3 + Navi combo for the best price performance. By then (late 2018-early 2019) I will have a budget of 3000 to drop on a gaming PC. I hope 4K 144hz HDR quantom dot monitors will have dropped in price by then, if not I will have to settle for a 1440p 144hz settup. I can't wait, it is going to be a beast.

Not holding off, just not doing it. I've only got 8 gigs of ram and a gtx970, but I can run everything I'm currently playing as well as my backlog on high/ultra.

>>382826180
>AMD Zen 3 + Navi combo
>4K 144hz HDR quantom dot monitors
These technologies are going to be kino for this generation

Already have i7 / 980 so I don't really feel the need to yet.

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>>382820865
Don't see a reason to. Built it 5 years ago but since then I installed a 980, and upgraded the RAM from 8gb to 16gb (for art not for vidya) and I'm quite happy with it. When it hits the 10 year mark that's when I'll probably build a new one. Maybe.

My CPU is ancient so i'm going to have to upgrade CPU, Motherboard and Ram all at once, i'll probably do it either this month or in August. I have a 980 and i don't have or want 4k vr memery so i think i'm fine on that front.

>>382826478
Yep, the only thing I don't look forward to is having to stop using Windows 7, fuck Microsoft for blocking it on future CPU's.

yea im holding off because the miner faggots wants to ruin everything

I literally ordered a 1080 like twenty minutes ago

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>>382820865
Nope just built one a few months ago pic related. Need a new monitor though

I don't really play AAAs and I don't give a fuck about high grafix so I'm fine with my 580 GTX for the moment

>>382821024
same here, only upgrade once a decade

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Just bought all my parts for my first rig.

$1100. More than I wanted to, but I managed to snag a Super Clocked 1070 for $400 w/ Ass Effect 4. Which made much more sense than a RX 580 for $350, which sold out in 15 minutes.

Now lets put this baby to work mining ether.

>>382820865
pcbro "gaming" is finished

>>382826868

There are workarounds for that, but who knows about future generations. Don't give into the botnet OS.

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>>382820865
I'm not "holding off", I'm "not giving a shit about it".
It works flawlessly for all the illustration work I do, browsing and porn. The consoles I own will last for another 4 years. There's simply no reason to be constantly bothered with upgrading PC bottlenecks every couple of years when the cycle is never-ending and there are zero high-end PC games anymore, only console ports. PC gaming is absolute trash nowadays,
no redeeming qualities whatsoever and it's actually the second worst cancer in the industry,
only above mobile gaming - slightly -
but that's a topid for another time So there's no reason to upgrade.

I'm happy enough with my 1620p monitor and Raid0 SSD's for booting/loading everything in 3 seconds. I can't imagine Photoshop getting slower over time or 16K video rendering being the standard within the next decade

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Will it explode if i use a Ryzen with an Nvidia card? I don't trust the AMD memes.

Yes, because GPU prices are fucked.

I only have a gtx960 and a cheapish CPU but I'm not having any issues. Then again I don't mod games into an unrecognizable state like some people here do.

>>382827242
It's only just getting started PC gaming hardware is exceeding console sales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY7lsMXCPuU

>>382820865
I upgraded a year ago. I'm still incredibly happy with my performance.

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>>382827219
>ryzen (aka automatic -30fps penalty for not going intel because games are still single core as fuck)
>seagate for data storage
>a 1070 for the price of a 1080

>>382827406
fake news

One is 4 years old
The other I just built 5 months ago

I think I can afford to hold off.

>>382827531
>intel shilling lies about ryzen
>performance of ryzen is outpacing the 7700K by the update and ram kits
>Threadripper destroying Kaby Lake X's high temps and ridiculous skus

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>>382820865
YES BECAUSE OF FUCKING CRYPTOCURRENCY FAGS.

LET ME HAVE A 1060 YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

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>>382827531

Let me see a 1080 for $400.

Yeah I paid $23 tax, but I can easily sell the game it came with for $27 on ebay.

Please no bully.

>>382827219
That's pretty much my build. The only hiccups I've had with this is poor optimization. Got the 1600 overclocked to 3.6 on the stock cooler too with good temps
>>382827531
>$0.01 deposit pending on your Intel™ account

>>382827219
also make sure that ram is on the qvl for that mobo. I made the mistake of switching out the motherboard last minute and not switching the ram accordingly. It runs fine but it refuses to overclock at all let alone to its 3200 rating

I already maxed it out. Anything else would be to rub it in. From aesthetics to performance, it's top tier. I might consider downgrading to a mid tower case though.

>>382820865
Sold my 7970 for $700 bought a 1060 right before the prices jumped, sold that for $600, now I gotta wait out the price hike/find a 1080 for retail.

>>382828062
>>382827961
>>382827819
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12284509
show me ryzen outperform this

>>382821685
Volta isn't coming this year, it will soft launch in the spring with general available by summer like the last few Nvidia releases.

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>tfw gtx 1080 costs more than $3000 in your country

>>382820865
Yes, waiting for the next Intel/AMD/Nvidia products.

fx4100
4gb ddr3
hd6850

I've got $350 for upgrades, what get?

>>382820865
nothing is pushing the hardware, so there is no reason to. i've been able to play everything I wanted with my 7 year old computer, so I'll be waiting a long time probably.

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>>382820865
my 970 meme card and i7 4770k are doing just fine for 1080p vidya

>>382828870

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1861?vs=1828

I don't care about a few more frames when Ryzen is better for most everything else. I like to have a shit ton of things open and Ryzen is better for multitasking and encoding.

>>382821024
8 years since upgrading for me. And it just had to be this year where gfx card prices rise due to cryptocurrency.

>>382829268
>fx
upgrade to ryzen or at the very least get an fx 8320

>>382829470

Brand new socket AM4 socket too. Won't need to buy a new mobo for a long time. Intel changes socket pretty much every damn year.

>>382829268
don't upgrade; save up

I wanted to build one this summer after 7 years. Then Etherium boomed.

>>382829496
microcenter has the 8320e with a mobo for $90.

my psu is 420w, so im guessing id need to upgrade that if i jump to a 8320, right?

>>382820865
>Are you holding off upgrading your PC?

I built my PC three years ago but it's still good enough t play any game I'm interested. The processor is kind of weak and it might not be good enough to run Kingdom Come: Deliverance next year.

I'm too lazy to look up my options though, and then doing all the work to buy something and replace the parts.

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>>382820865
Still holding off... recently upgraded to 8GB ram and it makes quite the difference.

About to build a 1000$ rig

It's my first true powerful pc, I'm very excited and scared that I might have wasted tons of money.

>>382829093
What the fuck? What country?

>>382820865
I just upgraded my ps4 to a ps4 pro.

yes, my gtx 760 is perfectly fine

>>382829838
nah it's probably fine. Your pc doesn't draw as much power as you think it does. If you're getting a cpu/mobo combo for $90 use the rest for a better gpu

>>382829996

What you hording?

Anime? JAV?

What is the best size to buy for that kind of thing. Bigger drives have more of a chance to fail right?

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Yep. Been 7 years since I built it and I haven't upgraded since.

I'm planning on leaving my job in the beginning of September and doing some travelling so upgrading is a bit out of the question right now.

>>382820865
Yeah, even though I really should considering I'm using some old dell mouse, a broken headset as a mic, and can't even run Overwatch on 60

>>382830251
4tb is the suite spot

>>382826180
>he didn't heard about 8k

>>382820865
I have a 970 and haven't had trouble running anything on ultra yet so I'm good for now. My next upgrade is probably a 1tb ssd for games like GTA and arma

>>382829470
thanks for proving my own point
i7 7700k at 4.6ghz is the best value for power right now

>>382828401

It's not listed. Only 5 are.

Why wouldn't it work?

hows ryzen 5 1600 + rx580

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>>382828635
Where the fuck do you live?

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>Been so long since I built a computer that I've forgotten how to

>>382830251
I have another 8TB external that's not plugged in. Just back up monthly and there's nothing to worry about.

Mostly games, movies, and anime.

>>382820865
Had to replace my 760 to a 1070 earlier this year because it was broken and causing BSOD, so I'll be fine for a few more years.

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>build gaming pc once i turn 18 and get a job because nobody in my family knows not to buy computers off walmart
>roughly $600
>2 years later it cant run most shit above the second tier of lowest graphics without crashing because of a graphics card malfunction
>only make $400 a month rn
what do

>>382830621
good midrange combo, if you manage to find a decently-priced rx 580

>>382821874
poorfag much?

>>382820865
i was but i'm gonna replace my trusty 8350 with a ryzen 1600.

>>382820865
I'm running an i5-4460 and a gtx 960 2gb. Which of these components is the bigger bottleneck? And what can I upgrade to for a reasonable price?

I'll probably upgrade after I grab my PS4 most games I'm playing on PC right now run fine on my machine and I've been wanting to play some Sony Exclusives for a while now.

>>382826258
at 800x600

>>382831097
consumerist trend following drone much?

>>382831019
There's a store selling a Gigabyte RX580 4G for 220€ I guess I'll get that

i built mine 2 years ago
i3 3160
750Ti
can I still run the latest in bloated triple a meme game

>>382826998
and a new cpu not that trash

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>>382830548

That is one source.

Paul's Hardware bench shows 1600x killing the 7600k in games too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VvwWTQKCZs

>>382830409
I've seen 4k vs 8k and it makes no significant difference, while the jump from 1080p to native 4K does. Same goes for 144hz to 240hz, makes no significant difference, while the jump from 60hz to 144hz does.

4K 144hz will be the ultimate gaming experience for me, I am never going past that resolution and fps.

>>382830582
It means it hasn't been tested so they can't guarantee it will work. In all likelihood it'll work just fine but you might have trouble overclocking it to hit that 2800mhz

>>382831506
the latest bios updates for ryzen motherboards increased the memory compatibility by shitloads though

>>382831245
better than a poorfag go get a job kido

>>382831301
that's a really good price. They're usually sold out in the US, and if you manage to find one, they go for about $400+

>>382831347
im not talking about the 7600k
im talking about 7700k 4.6 and above
ryzen is a meme

>>382831384
>I am never going past that resolution and fps
until people start laughing at you and calling you poor, grandpa .etc for not moving onto the next big trend

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VdJJTH
Building my first PC, got most of the items on here.
Is there anything I should add or am I set?

>>382830995
Buy a PS4 or rent game streaming

>>382831636
>getting a job for something you don't need
t. bluepilled sheeple

Lol these GayMDtards grasping despritly trieing too prove they didnt udderly waist theyre money

>>382831943
>1060 for the price of a 1070
>seasonic trash
>i5 in the year of our lord 2018
>7200rpm hdd aka the worst of both worlds

please explain what this system could possibly be used for

Rate this build:

>Mobo: Asus B350 Plus
>CPU: Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz
>GPU: RX 580 4GB
>PSU: Corsair CX550M
>RAM: GSkill 16GB DDR4 2400 (2x8gb)
>CASE: NZXT S340W White

Still unsure about storage and cpu cooler, I'll probably get a small SSD for the OS and 2TB of generic HDD. Kinda waiting on any Amazon Prime Day deals

>>382831989
must be hard being an intelfag in 2017, all you have left is shitposting and denial.

rip in piece, buddy.

>>382831667

Well I have to cut back on cost somewhere. I have a very nice SC 1070 which will make much MUCH more of a difference in games than if I put some of the money towards the cpu instead.

7700k will give you 3-7 more frames at best over a 1600. Unless you have tons of cash to throw around a better GPU is smarter. Ryzen 5 is not THE cpu to get, but it is the best value at $200, and with good overclocking room.

>>382831943
You should build a Ryzen based computer, as of right now it's the best option for this price range

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>>382820865
There's not really any reason for me to upgrade, since there's not really anything I want to play on PC that requires high end parts.

>>382831989
>2017
>thinking Intel is superior

>>382832386
if i had to cut costs somewhere id do it on the gpu

>>382832536
well you probably don't play a lot of modern games which are all very GPU intensive and barely care about CPU

Not gonna upgrade, just going to build an entirely new rig. Still running on a FX 8350? Then 8gb of DDR3, 1tb HD, and a GTX 970. The processor especially is making it lame to do everything I want to do, but it's completely fine for playing games in 1080p.

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>>382832482
>bad boys miami takedown

>>382820865
i'm waiting until the 11XX GTX series to upgrade my 970, and even at that point i'm not sure if i will since i have no desire to upgrade my monitor until it dies.

>>382832675
The definitive PC 3rd person shooter experience.

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>tfw just realized my new build doesn't have a dvd drive

>>382832536

OK? You do you, and I'll be over hear with my SC 1070 at near max setting 1440p 70+ fps.

>>382832295
>>382832487
intell is literaly objectavley and ultamatley better GayMDfag your literaly in dinile

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friends want to play destiny 2 with me but they are all pc so i guess it's time for me to go full pcfag. what's the cheapest i can go as far as parts go if i just want to run destiny 2 (or a game like it, dunno the reqs) with good stability?

>>382832636
GPUs are compatible with just about all, if not all, motherboards, and really easy to install. Put up with some subpar graphics for 6 months while you put money aside for a new GPU, because you're going to be riding your CPU for a lot longer than you think.

>>382823486
>"Just enjoy life, goy. Surely you don't want to miss out on all the fun that the newest hardware can bring you. This makes games better, I assure you. You know you can trust me."

What did he mean by all this?

bad bait, that guy a few posts above me

>>382831674
I don't care what people think or say about me, I am still usinh 1080p 60fps Windows 7.

>>382821243
I just upgraded my 2600k to a 7700k. The improvement was amazing. In one game I went from 10 fps on lowest to 70 on maximum.

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>>382832247
Supposed to be just for games that aren't too heavy to run. The only thing on there I don't have yet is the motherboard and the i5 quadcore processor.
Should I change those out?
I honestly have no idea what I'm doing as you can see
>>382832473
Oh really?

>>382832772
>objectavley

you need more cores and threads in order to spell that word properly.

>>382832802

Good thing the AM4 socket will probably be around for a decade so you can use the same mobo. Meanwhile Intel will have a new socket announced this time next year.

Yes, MINER PUNKS FUCK OFF

I'm not going to pay fucking 400 dollaroos for a 1060

Is the Asus VS248HR 24" a decent monitor?

>>382833031
they already have a new one coming out soon actually

>>382832763
and i will be over here with my i7 7700k at 4.6ghz and 1080 at 144hz because im not a cost cutting faggot

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>tfw sitting on a 6 year old PC
It's starting to feel like a time bomb especially since some of the hard drives are 10 years old but I don't really have a trouble playing the games I want to play so I'm not upgrading until I need to. Even Witcher 3 runs at mostly 60 fps using a mixture of low/mid settings with an occasional high.

Nier Automata almost made me consider upgrading but then some cool guy on the Steam forums made a patch that made it run way better. Still had to use 1600x900 though for constant 60 fps.

>>382833017
Just search on youtube for a nice Gaming Ryzen system for the price range you want, you'll find plenty

>>382833031
Even so, I'd rather upgrade GPUs than CPU. I had a Phenom II 940/something (the 4core) for like 4 years on an AM3+, then upgraded to a Bulldozer 8core that I've had for 2-3 years. Because AMD rides the same socket for so long, the next CPU I get will be an AM4 one.

>>382833201
Buy a new hard drive and transfer the data at least
use your current one as backup

>>382820865
Nope. I have a GTX 970 that I'm going to use until I can barely run shit on low.

>>382833035
This is literally just an american problem

Import from EU and you'll pay just slightly more than regular price

>ryzen 1600
>asrock fatal1ty B350
>8GB DDR4 3000

i feel 8GB is old but i've never played a game that required more than that, every game rivatuner reports ram usage below 8GB

>>382833176

That's cool, you have more money to throw around. But you should know that isn't the best value, like you said. Diminishing returns.

>>382833368
interesting, i'm now on my vacation appartment on a spare parts computer i built that has a phenom 955, my main computer has the 8350 and my next purchase will be an AM4 also.

>>382833470
I feel you RAM is overpriced as fuck

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I'm content with my NoVidya 1070, it's handled everything I've played at 1440p except for unoptimized shit like ARK survival.

>>382832904
i run my games at 1600x1200, i'm the same way

>>382833645
that's the thing, i'm looking at a 450€ upgrade just for those 3 parts, and i don't see the point on getting extra ram specially because no current game i've tried uses more than 8

>>382820865
Yeah I bought some new headphones instead

>>382833621
I can't afford a second place so I try to unload spare parts on friendos. I have a 5770, 7850, and a couple old processors chilling in my closet. No Mobos though, I generally only replace them when they break.

>>382827314
What kind of workarounds? Is there a guide?

>>382832536
Listen to this guy. I have a 6 year old CPU (overclocked i5-2500k) and it's only just now approaching the point of "I need a new one" in physics heavy games (it's still not a bottleneck in most). I upgraded my GPU in 2015 and the old one was already dogshit back then.

CPU growth has been fairly slow so buying a great one should last a long time while even if you buy top tier GPU it will probably be irrelevant in 4 years tops. GPU is easy to swap, new CPU might need a new mobo.

>>382833383
I have an external drive I use for backups of important data, I don't really give a shit about most space consuming stuff like movies/TV shows/games, I can just download them again.

going for my masters; need less distractions

kek, i gave my brother a 5770 which he is now using, i have an Athlon x2 and an Athlon X4 sitting under my desk.

i also have a 6870 i also borrowed to my brother that doesn't work when drivers are installed for some reason anymore.

this vacation pc is an undervolted (because of stock cooler) phenom 955 with 8GB DDR3 1300 and a 7950.

my main pc is the [email protected] with 8GB DDR3 2400 and an R9 290.

my last intel processor was a Pentium 3 800mhz but AMD made everything easy and cheap by sticking with the sockets for a long time.

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>>382821024
>Have new job
>Been buying a new computer part every paycheck
>Been 6 or so years since I've upgraded
>Havent started because Im too nervous that I'll fuck up building my PC since it's been a while
In my head I know it's not hard, but Ive heard lots of horror stories.

>>382834248 here

was replying to >>382833807

When i upgrade my computer i plan on revamping my entire battle station. New desk, chair, monitor, computer case (mine is really ugly and the usb jacks in the front are fucked up). The whole thing is going to cost like 2 grand so im putting it off for a long time.

Saving up for a Falcon Northwest. My current build can run everything so its not an issue.

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>not having an autistic brother and using him to get companies to send you free components

>>382834248
>>382834351
Now that I think about it I think I have a 6850 in my closet too. I didn't get into pc building until 2009 I think (for Dawn of War 2). So I went straight to Phenom.

>>382834838
your brother shouldn't use you like that

>>382834352
What chair you planning on getting? I have zero knowledge on such things, and I dont know if those 98 dollar meme chairs are worth it. My old boss always said a good chair makes a difference.

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>starting a new job at the end of the month after 5 years of being NEET
>tfw sitting on an i5with a GT 620

>>382833385
Uhh what?

I live in Europe and all the prices are fucking sky high for GPUs

My parents got me the cheapest current Dell laptop for "gaming". It plays netplay and multiplayers games at med settings fine so I don't care right now until I get a good job.

>>382835263
Maybe very high end ones, but midrange ones (which are the most used by miners) are actually priced normally

>>382835087
Right now im using an old bulky leather chair. It lets me sit back and use the arms of the chair for my mouse while my keyboard sits in my lap. I was probably going to get another one of those since this one is so torn up. My current desk is some old piece of shit ikea desk. Its lightweight but i want more desk space, and the monitor plays into that because i want a bigger one but my desk is too small.

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>>382835408
You've got it mixed up. The midrange ones which are used bu miners are priced expensive due to big demand and no supply. High end cards are actually priced normal since miners don't use those.

Here's an example of 1060 prices from my country. I'm not gonna post the AMD ones but they are even worse

>>382835937
idk an RX580 8GB is 250 on amazon uk, doesnt sound too bad

Waiting on NVidia's next consumer card, which is rumored to not come out until 1st or 2nd quarter next year. It kinda sucks because it sounds like their cards are being focused on AI technology more than rendering 4K natively in real-time with little to no problem.

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>>382820865
Yeah, though for a reason that no one has mentioned in this thread and in fact I'm probably the only fag here with it: Thunderbolt 3. Intel is finally getting serious about it, they say they're going to broadly let anyone use it next year and start integrating it into their chips, AMD can get in on it too. That will open up what I really want to do for my next upgrade, currently I'm running my old DVI screens over fiber optics from my rack in my server room 80ft away or so. I expect sometime mid/late next year I'll be able (for decent cost) to set up my PC as an awesome 4U system in my rack, then use a couple of TB3 fiber optic cables to go to my area and have 3x 5k screens and all the connectivity I want. I'll be able to use whatever loudass high performance components I want giving zero shits, have a easy 10G link to my core LAN, have all my redundancy taken care of, the works. And my actual use area will be dead silent. I'm fucking hyped, the future is finally coming.

>>382820865
I haven't upgraded since like 2010. There's nothing overly graphically demanding that I give a shit about.

Yes, because I got a new build two years ago and I barely play new releases

intel g4620 (kabylake) - purchased for $70 used
rx480 - purchased for $100 used. when the rx500 series came out

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>>382820865
It been four years since I last build my computer and I have zero interest with newer games these days. As long as I can run Daggerfall, modded Morrowind, or some older gen mmos, then I'm happy.

>>382835187
What sort of job?

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>>382820865
i want to build a semi-decent pc.

what parts do i get?

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>>382820865
Yeah I am. Holding off for Nvidias next flagship card. Currently have an i7 4790k ocd to 4.7 + GTX 1080. I did just pick this up 2 days ago for VR Project Cars and Dirt Rally though on the Vive.

>>382820865
I just upgraded like two months ago so I'm good

>>382838296

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

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>>382838167
answering incoming customer service calls at a call center

>>382838296
If you have no money at all, buy a Pentium G4560. If you have some money, buy an R5 1440. Next step up is R5 1600, then R7 1700. If you play competitive esports get the i7 7700K

GPU everything's sold out or overpriced except low end shit due to miners. Your only current options are RX 550, RX 460/560, GTX 1050, and GTX 1050Ti. If you want anything higher wait, or buy something cheap used as a placeholder.

8GB of RAM if poor, if not 16GB.

Buy SSD if you have the cash, it's worth it.

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I think mine is as good as it can get right now?
I need a monitor more badly then anything else.

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>>382833873

That CPU is Ryzen 5 1600 overclocked. Literally twice as fast as the 2500k, and only $200. Also MOAR CORES, AND threads, better cores this time too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xRAACegBzE

Yes and no. Primarily because I don't play that much anymore. I'd like a 1TB NVMe SSD more than anything so I can toss my 2x250GB SSDs into a some storage for my server, or another zfs cache.

>>382831347
>killing
>4 frames

look im autistic but god damn m8

>>382838870

But will the Nvidia/Intel jews cuck me if i use a Ryzen with an Nvidia card?

>>382838981

5 frames is all Intel has over AMD, so to lose that is literally killing Intel.

>>382838562
We'll all float on, anon. Best of luck.

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>>382820865
>wait five years upgrading from my GTX 680 because it ran games so well, but it became obvious in the last year that it was only a little dated
>finally upgrade to GTX 1080
>1080TI announced a week and a half later

In have built a pc and hovered over the buy button several times for several hours. During this time I have flashbacks of all the bullshit I had to go through to get the money


Then I invest it in things that appreciate over time

>>382838706
>If you have no money at all, buy a Pentium G4560. If you have some money, buy an R5 1440. Next step up is R5 1600, then R7 1700. If you play competitive esports get the i7 7700K
i heard AMD is not very good. is it true? I don't plan to play intensive games on it, maybe overwatch, gigantic and the occasional indie game/ emulator.

>GPU everything's sold out or overpriced except low end shit due to miners. Your only current options are RX 550, RX 460/560, GTX 1050, and GTX 1050Ti. If you want anything higher wait, or buy something cheap used as a placeholder.

well i don't need to play games on super high resolution and the prices i've found seem nice enough.

>8GB of RAM if poor, if not 16GB.

i might go for 16gb since i plan on using my pc for multiple stuff

>Buy SSD if you have the cash, it's worth it.
i heard good things about ssd, i might prioritize that but maybe i wont have enough to go full on ssd, i might have to use a nor hardrive as well.

Who /R5 1600 + GTX 1060 6GB/ here?

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>tfw bought a 770 right before the 900 series was announced
>paid full price for something immediately rendered inferior
>still stuck with it

>>382839617
You can just buy a 120GB SSD for your OS if you want, although 240GB SSD's are very competitive in price generally. While they improve load times in games PC load times are already pretty fast. Usually, the main advantage is instant boot times and the fact OS updates won't bottleneck your computer. If you're not chasing super high graphics a 1050Ti is solid at 1080p.

>i heard AMD is not very good. is it true?
AMD's FX series weren't very good for high end PC's, the only reason to buy AMD was their APU's which were good if you couldn't afford a graphic card. Ryzen changed all that, Ryzen is extremely good at everything besides gaming, and only slightly behind Intel in most modern games. While your framerate won't be as good as an overclocked 7600K or 7700K, you'll be able to multitask a lot easier. All Ryzen CPU's can be overclocked making locked Intel processors except the newest Pentiums pointless.

>still using 750ti

Wouldn't consider upgrading even if GPUs weren't inflated by cryptofags. Idk when there'll be another great low-power small-form-factor GPU like it

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>>382820865
Yep. Since 2015.

>>382820865
None of your goddamn business.

>>382840462

RX 460 beats the shit out of it.

Been out for a year.

yes i have a gtx 660 right now. not sure what to get it seems like a new card comes out every month

>>382820865

I would do it.... if it wasnt that hard to find pc parts in argentina

>>382827219
>seagate
anon im so sorry

>>382831636
>being a supplier to the corporate jew is better than being a smart spender
Whatever you say faggot

>>382835937
>it hit 400 euros
Fucking hell, in May these cards were 240-270 euros.

Can't wait for the miner crash!

Why have miners not been taken out back and shot? Farming for a fictional currency is fucking lame.

>>382841638
I hope those subhuman fucks lose a ton of money and suffer if the market crashes.

Yes, my PC is a 9 years old unupgraded toaster.

>>382841289

You know it isn't 2011 anymore?

Look at any facility with huge data storage, and you'll see Seagate drives.

>build expensive PC last summer
>it's already starting to break down
Don't fall for the PC meme.

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>Build $1000 gaming PC because, hey, I like games, right?
>Forget I have 50kbps internet and can't download shit
>Never play games
>Read manga and lurk on 4chan instead

>>382840314
>While your framerate won't be as good as an overclocked 7600K or 7700K,
idk, framerate is kind of a big issue for me since it would be the reason i want to play on pc.

>>382820865
yeah there's nothing worthwhile to upgrade for. still rocking my phenom ii x4 and radeon 7870. all I do is play FFXIV and old emulators.

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>Want to build a new PC
>Need to get a new car soon.
>Need to pay off credit card.
>Just cannot justify spending anything on a PC until those things are handled.

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>build mid-range pc with the prospect of upgrading here and there in the future
>stick a 1070 in it
>mfw set for the next 5 years, 1-2 minor upgrades like RAM give or take

>>382834274
It's pretty hard to fuck up. And I would say it's better to start putting it together now rather than later in case there's some problem with the part and you need to do a return. When I was doing mine, one of my ram sticks was bad so I had to bring it back to the store for a replacement.

>>382839836
770 was and still is a great card. Especially the 4gb version.

>>382842320
at least you are not me

>work for a year in a internship program making a littl bit over minimum wage with the promisse i would be hired after the end of it.
>plans on buying a decent that i always wanted when i make a decent buck
>boss comes to me last week saying that they probably won't hire me in the end of the internship due to lack of funds.

and just like that, once again the dream of having a decent pc is dead for at least another 5 years or so.

>>382842742
It is what it is anon. Start looking at other places in your field for a job.

>>382839059
Only if you fall for marketing

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>>382841638
>>382841828
>salty nocoiners

It's OK, it's not to late. You won't be a multi-millionaire like the people who put a few thousand into bitcoin in 2011, but who knows how high it'll go.

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>>382842626
Thanks for the encouragement anon. Im going to pull the trigger next paycheck and get to building it after I purchase some new RAM.

>>382842827
yeah but now i have to look for a job that don't require much experience in the field since i'm finishing college now and part of the promise of being hired was to actually learn more stuff about the field. i've only learn basic stuff. I might have to look for a service desk job or something.

>>382842991
I still don't understand how bitcoins are a thing.
It's literally fake money. It's no different then if I tried to sell WoW gold for cash.

>>382832750
I'm torn on whether I should get a bluray reader for my pc. It's not really necessary but I would like to watch blurays on the pc sometimes.

Did the mods literally delete OP image?

There's shit that deserves to be deleted not this

I built a PC back in 2014 with R9 280. Can still run Battlefield 1, Fallout 4, and D44M with some settings tone down. Dont even need max everything since I can still get consistent 60+ fps.
What do you even play to warrant a 1080 ti or other cards costing more than 500 bucks?

>>382843395
Nah
Put basically (because I only have a basic understanding,) a bitcoin takes a constant amount of processing power to "maintain." It pretty much is dedicating an amount of your computer's speed to doing math problems over and over again.
So you're not selling numbers like WoW gold, you're selling and buying processing power

>>382839836
i brought a fucking 2gb 760
i had zero clue about the 900 series of cards

Yeah.

I'm tempted to buy a R7 1700 & a 1080ti right now but I'm holding off to see how Coffee-Lake turns out.

>>382843990
I've noticed a fair few legitimate threads being deleted, while blatant shitposting/shilling bullshit remains.

/v/ has easily the worst mods next to /tg/. these days.


I should and can upgrade my PC right now, but I've gotten to the point of being curious how long it can hold out. Had to turn off the CPU fan monitoring just to get it to turn on; Some of the noises it makes are unholy; And it still randomly turns itself on/off in the middle of the night.

Red pill me on the objective pros and cons of Ryzen cpus without resorting to Intel fanboyism

>>382844246
you're waiting for a 6 core when you can buy an 8?

You should be waiting for Ryzen G2 when they bring the thermals down for 7nm

>>382821374
I mained a gaming laptop for a few years. At the time I bought it, and for about a year after, I was chilling at cafes a lot while I worked (on generally performance intensive tasks: video editing, etc), so it made sense to buy it. It wasn't terrible, but I wouldn't do it again.

>>382820865
At this point, I'm holding off on a near complete rebuild - even my storage drives should get replaced. I nearly did over Christmas, but I really wanted to see how Ryzen was going to play out, and I did the right thing waiting. Now I'm just price watching.

>>382844397
All good things come to an end. Sad to see this shit at work

>>382844565
I'm thinking of doing an entire SSD build with no mechanical storage, going to wait a few years to make that a reality.

Imagine minimizing storage latency with 7zip

>>382844469
I'll take 6 cores with better IPC for game performance than 8 cores.

By the time 6+ cores matter for the majority of games we'll be long past the point where both Ryzen & Coffee-lake will be replaced.

>>382820865
I need to upgrade my CPU but then that'd mean I'd need to upgrade my RAM and motherboard too

apart from my GPU and RAM my PC is 5 years old so I'm probably just going to build a whole new PC and turn this one into a HTPC

>>382844457
cons:
single threaded performance has improved greatly from FX but not up to par with Kaby Lake, but awfully close.

needs specific memory for Ryzen to excel 3600Mhz +. Bios updates have made this easier and new DDR4 kits are getting higher clocks


pros:
great multi threaded perf, which is where we are headed development wise.

8 cores with 65w tdp at $300; R7 1700

>>382844929
single threaded perf will lose out to multi threaded in the coming years, you can't ride single threaded forever unless you just HAVE to buy Intel for retarded marketing feelings.

Gaming is as good as dead. Only niche games do remotely interest me, and they aren't punishing my few years old hardware yet.

>>382845323
>in the coming years

And by the time it matters, we'll all be replacing our CPUs anyway. You buy for today, not for what you think will be better in X years.

People said the same shit back with FX v Sandy Bridge and it's only now, 6 years later, that the FX has edged the 2500k out by around 6%.

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>>382834274
Just got my first job back in April, been doing the same thing.

Here's what I'm buying with my next paycheck.

>>382845703
guess what now it's changing, you see it in the benchmarks multi threaded is overtaking single.

>>382845323
No it won't. This is just the lies the current AMD-cult tells itself. Always go for the best singlecore performance for gaming. Advanced game logic can't be parallelized to any meaningful degree.

>>382846390
In professional applications that require a lot of threads.

Can you show me benchmarks where the majority of games run better on R5/7 than current i5/i7?

>>382846394
>This is just the lies the current AMD-cult tells itself
No that's intel propaganda wrapped around in an AMD argument.

If this were true Intel wouldn't be forced to compete with a 6 core varient coming out in a few months and the duct taped 18 core coming later

They had a monopoly to cut costs and offer fewer cores and now it's over

We can thank AMD for the moar core democracy

>>382846276
The cooler will usually come with it's own thermal paste. No need to buy the other one.

>>382846681
Nope but can you stream, game and encode atst while maintaining the same gaming performance for single threaded games? On Ryzen it's do able on a 4 core intel in the same msrp category you can't.

>>382846736
There are legit uses for more cpu cores. Not for gaming, though.

>>382846736
Listen, I actually want to go with AMD & Ryzen because Intel have been fucking us for too long but the only thing I care about is performance in games and games want high core clocks/IPC.

Unfortunately that means my only option for running 120Hz in games is Intel. I've been holding out for AMD to improve their BIOS and the memory improvements have made some difference but not enough.

>>382847142
Why do you keep changing the direction of the conversation. I never said that Ryzen wasn't the best CPU for multitasking right now but I don't give a fuck about streaming and encoding.

I'm looking for RAW game performance. Ryzen, unfortunately, doesn't deliver in the way that I want so that's why I'm waiting for Coffee-Lake. Although if Coffee-Lake ends up being like SkylakeX with the insanely shitty thermals for almost no gain then I'll probably end up going with Ryzen.

>mfw seeing all these cool hardware that I want to upgrade to but held back because nothing I play requires modern hardware

>>382847205
>>382847276
Look that's all fine

I've seen the benches with higher clocked memory and bios improvements and where Ryzen's fps in some games is concerned it's acceptable in the overall package you're getting from my pov. If you think those games are worth sticking for a few years down the road by all means go Intel,

>>382847994
If you're pushing for 120hz, which I am, then Ryzen isn't an option for the majority of games.

So of I only care for gaming and wont do any video or photo editting I should stick with Intel? Or stick with Ryzen anyways since Intel jack up their prices from their previous cpu monopoly?

>>382848167
Depends on your budget, depends on what you're aiming for.

If it's just 60fps then absolutely go with Ryzen, you'll also get a bunch of other benefits but be aware that you'll need to look into memory compatibility and BIOS upgrades so picking the right memory/motherboard will take a little research.

If you're aiming for over 60fps in most popular competitive games like Overwatch, CS:GO, Dota etc, then Ryzen should also be your choice.

If you're looking to push 120fps in the majority of mainstream games then Intel is still your choice.

>>382820865
waiting for zen2 and navi. I'm still on core i7 870 and gtx 680 4gb

>>382846816

But what about when you take off the cpu/heatsink and put on again.

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>>382846816
Oh, thanks

>>382820865
Thought I would have to upgrade with Ryzen but my 3 year old Intel is 20% faster in games. $100 cheaper too. Ryzen was the biggest disaster in AMD history.

Kind of. Been meaning to get an SSD but, like most things, it costs money, and I dislike spending money whether I can afford something or not.

>>382848107
Very well

Ryzen isn't for you then. There are usage cases where consumers are wanting to do more, if you're strictly gaming and will continue to do so then Ryzen isn't the cpu for you.

>>382848643
Mine came with a little tube with a cover(just like the one in the pic but smaller) so you can reseal it and use it more than once. There was plenty of paste for a few applications of it.

>>382820865
Naw I already put together a motherfucker two months ago, best thousand I ever spent in life and god damn I think the only things I will ever have to add onto it in the next 7 years are hard drives and a new cpu cooler.

>>382834274

If you're that scared you can just take it to Fry's and they'll put it together for like 20 bucks.

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Not sure. Should I?

>>382848492
More fps is always better even if I have to dial settings to medium. Why cant Ryzen do 120 fps?
Ill be playbg primarily Tekken 7, Overwatch, assorted jrpgs, and lookong into EA Battlefront 2