Is there such a thing as a humble game developer?

>>382804542
Yeah but they never post anything online.

>>382804542
No

>>382804542
>There's no market in pandering to morons

Didn't even read the rest, this guy is a retard right off the bat. I have a friend like him who makes """music""", he goes on and on about how easy it is to make profitable pop music, yet he hasn't made a single cent putting his shitty projects on bandcamp in the past 10 years.

The Japanese are usually very humble, which is why they make no money since they don't rely on flamboyant marketing or stealth marketing to sell their games.

>>382804542
That's an ugly ass font.

RPG Codex is gonna be fun to follow when that game comes out. It will inevitably have a fanboy brigade and people who will hate that game. Everyone in between will be caught in the spergstorm. Autism will be spewing out of every orifice. It was bad enough with Age of Shit. It's gonna be five million times that with this.

There's nothing wrong with passion. Grimoire looks great, I'm excited for it.

>>382805643
That level of confidence can be a good sign, but as always it means nothing until the game comes out and proves itself.

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>No idea what this is
>Go and look it up
>This is the description of the game

"Cleveland Mark Blakemore's Magnum Opus! The ultimate classic style turn-based roleplaying game in the tradition of Wizardry, Might&Magic, Lands Of Lore and Eye of the Beholder! A game that took over 20 years to produce! As much as 600 hours of play with hand-painted graphics and old skool goodness!"

Are you sure this is not Phil Fish in disguise?

i wish it didnt look like dogshit.

also developer is mega autist. year ago i spent few hours reading his posts on the codex

>>382805797
Cleve is crazy as fuck and thinks he is a neanderthal. He's much, much worse than Phil

>>382805797
>its yet ANOTHER le retro game by an arrogant indie dev

So sick of these retards.

>>382804712
Pop music is based on a formula but at the end the music itself is not what sells but the image.

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IT TOOK TWENTY YEARS TO MAKE SO IT HAS TO BE GOOD

>>382804542
Was with him up until he started putting his game on a pedestal, probably means it's gonna be shit.

>>382804542
>all this fluff
>"what elite fans RPGs will feel"
Nice typo loser.

Nobody is going to buy this at $40. I dont care if took 100 years abd Zeus himself forged it. Graphics are shit and gameplay looks nothing special.

>>382804542
And people wonder why I have blocked the indie tag on steam

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>Is there such a thing as a humble game developer?

Yes

See also: Daisuke Amaya, Toby Fox.

I'll pirate it.
If someone bothers ripping it.

>>382805797
Oh shit! He really was developing something!

>>382806002
Did he finish digging up his bunker by now? Is he safe from the post-apocalyptic hordes of cannibal rapist negros?

>>382804542
This game is so excited. If IGN gives it a bad score I am afraid he will either kill himself or blow up an IGN office.

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hm....

>>382807265
What happened to both of them?

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First that comes to my mind is Pixel
>released one of the greatest games of all time for free, and the tools for it too
>acts like a normal person, does talks, answers to questions from fans

Also:
>releasing an indie game for more than 20$
Please don't do this.

>>382806898
>Toby Fox
lolno

>>382804542
>my game is special and deserves more than $20 price tag.
Every time.

Fight Knight's a recent kickstarter with absolutely 0 stetch goals and is at like 3x of its goal.

>>382807690
Rape, followed by Murder-Suicide

>>382806190
I think arrogance is fine if you actually make a good game and that arrogance is ponited at the shitty developers who should be getting blamed for shit releases. But turning that on users and telling people who they are and what they "deserve" in a game is full on retarded. News to the dev, you're not special and you're shit isn't anymore special. And just basically saying that he is rigid and won't change the game means it's probably going to be unpolished shit with terrible design that he justifies with "it's the original vision" bullshit that half these arrogant types and the fags that defend them will say.

If you don't have any confidence in your game at all, then that's a sign it's trash, so I can understand being happy with your product. But this guy has gotta realise how much of a complete tool he's coming across as. Wouldn't be surprised if he's monitoring this thread right now.

>>382808609
I am and I am not angry. I am actually laughing because I know all of you will love the game when you buy and play it :)

anymore proofs of indie devs thinking of themselves as Gods?

>>382807776
This

It's to the point that Nicashit's name is more well known than his own. Kero Blaster gets no attention.

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>>382809015
No indie devs are simple, normal, down to earth people.

>devs
problem is any faggot can make some shit indie game and think too much of themselves, just look at yanderedev, what a cuck

>humble dev
AGDG has the humblest of devs

>>382808609
confidence and arrogance are two different beasts. Confidence would have been
>I worked hard on this game and I have faith it will succeed. I'm certain people will love it

Arrogance is what he basically showed, in multiple different ways. That actually hides some hatred/fear about the reactions people will have with the game. And since he seems reluctant to accept criticism he's probably going to go apeshit when people criticize the shit out of it's archaic design. But we'll see.

Imagine the averge /v/tard. Ugly, little experience with women, poor social projects, impoverished, a disappointment to his parents.

But than either through talent, hardwork, or fortune he manages to put out a video game. People will be playing his game, enjoying it, talking about it, giving him money for it.

The increase in his power is a massive, massive, step. Of course he feels like a God. He hasn't a quarter of this power at any point in his life before.

In contrast the regular devs (the non-indies) get this sensation all the time because they work at a stable company which makes many games a year, all far more prolific than all but a handful of the indies. As a result they are used to the feel of power and don't go aping about it.

>>382806898

>Toby Fox

Of course not. He's gonna be another Scott Cawthon reluctantly rehashing his one game and catering to his shitty fanbase. That's why Undertale PS4/Vita is a thing

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>>382806487
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD GRIMOIRE IS!

>>382810859
He said in an interview he only ported it to those systems because he's a weeb and wanted Japan to play it.

>>382804542
ToadyOne

He doesn't even sell his game, just gives it out for free and does what he enjoys

when redditors make videogames.

>>382810859
Toby specifically avoided merchandising his game because he wants to avoid that. Undertale PS4/Vita is the first official merchandise in 2 years other than the stuff on Fangamer

>>382811027
In fact, they should revoke all Game of the Year awards from the last 20 years and retroactively give them to Grimoire, since Grimoire was still being made while fucking trash games got Game of the Year. Gotta respect that kind of artistic determination to stick with a project for 20 years.

>>382810583
/v/tards are mostly normalfags now

>>382804542
Itoi-San

>>382808609
Confidence.

The food of the wise man but liquor of the fool.

>>382804542
The guy who did cave story.

>>382804542
What is Legend of Grimrock
What is Legend of Grimrock 2
What is The Deep Paths: Labyrinth Of Andokost
What is Dungeon Kingdom: Sign of the Moon
What is Dungeon Hero
What is Coldfire Keep
What is 7 Mages

>>382812171
>What is The Deep Paths: Labyrinth Of Andokost
>What is Dungeon Kingdom: Sign of the Moon
>What is Dungeon Hero
>What is Coldfire Keep
>What is 7 Mages
I have no idea

20 years?! Good lord what happened with that game?

>>382812301
the point isn't that they're all well known
the point is that that's a list of games like this one you can pull off of steam by looking up legend of grimrock, the one everyone's going to immediately think of

>>382804542
>it's not even a Wizardry clone

Yes it is.

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>>382811267
Or he could've localized the PC version. It's obvious that the sun emperor Sony paid him for exclusive rights for Japan.

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HERE COMES THE MONEEEEEEEEY!
(Here we go. Money talks.)
HERE COMES THE MONEY!

MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!)

>>382804542
most japanese devs

>>382804542
Japanese ones

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>>382811649
Did you know that the dev grew up while the development of the game was being done?
GRIMOIRE!

>>382804542

Ive always found FNaF's Scott to be pretty chill.

>>382812692
How doesn't he realise that hyping it up that much will let anyone down, even if he delivers a solid game?

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CHING CHING, BLING BLING
CUT THE CHATTER
YOU AIN'T TALKING MONEY
THEN YOUR TALKING DON'T MATTER

>>382806898
>Toby "I GIVE MY GAME A VERY MODEST 8/10" Fox
>Humble

>>382804542
pixel/cave story's developer is very humble
scott cawthon is also pretty nice

>>382812662
>japs
>playing pc games

hahahaha

>>382804542
this is satire right

it has to be

>>382813018
They do play games on PC, just not as much as consoles. Funny that Japan is also owned by said console maker.

>>382804542
DF's Toady, maybe Swery, though that might just be because he's half mad.

>>382812662
Japs dont play on PC

>>382805797
Game does look pretty good though.
I mean if it actually ends up being pretty good, the guys still an ass. But he did deliver. Thats better than hundreds of wannabe devs that just plain don't.

People forget how much of a dick Cliffy B can be. But he seems to get shit done when he wants to.

>>382812946
Well he did make a game that he himself would enjoy I imagine
Only makes sense he'd score it at least well

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>>382809119
He's totally a furfag with a corruption fetish
Thats been a feature in most of his titles

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>>382805797
>20 years for this

>>382806730
No one wonders that.

>>382807690
Pixel made some commercial ports of Cave Story and at least one more game.
Phil Fish cancelled Fez 2 and left game development because someone hurt his feelings on Twitter.

pixel

>>382812692
10,000 copies sold this year max.

>>382812914
Ok he's not going to release anything is he? He's just fucking around with people, right?

>>382813607
>pixel
that's niantic
I don't think he's made anything since Cave Story
Kero Blaster was pre-CS

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>>382804542
tl;dr

>>382804542
Of course he is australian, either he got his brain cooked by the sun or a spider bit him and made him shitposting incarnate

>>382812692
How much does he expect to make on this game? I'm constantly reading news on shitty unknown games and scouring the steam store for shit that looks promising and I didn't hear about this until someone was shilling it in a /vg/ thread. There's no hype surrounding it whatsoever, the graphics are going to turn people off, the gameplay is going to turn people off, the pricetag is going to turn people off, and if it's anywhere near as complex as he says then that's going to turn people off too.

Nobody cares how complex your dead-genre game is, and nobody cares that it's your magnum opus that you worked 20 years on. Nobody is going to buy it. Dead on arrival.

>>382804906
>Japanese are usualy very humble
>Literaly the highest discount on japanese games on steam is 30% at max

>>382804906
>Kojima
>Taro
>humble

>>382817329
Taro constantly calls his games shit and says the only reason why Nier:Automata was such a success was because Platinum salvaged it.

>>382817524
to be fair thats not being humble, its being honest

>>382807265
But Fez is on PC.

>>382817683
western indie dev detected

>>382817524
Degrading your own work is something a lot of artists do, whether it be because you fish for compliments, of because you expect yourself to be able to do better. Just the way he acts gives off vibes of "I'm cool and so are my games"

Explain Kojima or someone like kamiya then.

>>382816720
He is honestly just deluded, not even people at rpgcodex are taking this seriously at all, with many actually just waiting for it to be released and receive the bad reviews so they can watch the guy have a meltdown

>>382812847
how many dog cocks did you suck between the release of FNAF 8 and FNAF 8?

>>382819304
Zero?

>>382812721
>>382812773

The only reason you think that is because you can't read Japanese, so you can't understand them when they start being a cunt on their social media platform of choice

>>382818795
I've never heard of this game before, but it literally looks like a modern Elder Scrolls Arena or Daggerfall. Why would it be that bad other then the price tag?

>>382819983
It probably won't be bad, the demo alone was better than most modern RPGs

it would still be funny to watch the giant shitfest if the game got bad reviews, though

>>382820336
It will get bad reviews. That is unavoidable, especially on Steam. Retards always buy games they can't even begin to understand, and with a $40 investment they are going to be loud.

>>382804542
did you fags even read this? he's clearly joking.

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>>382804542
No.

>>382822104
He's 100% serious, he writes like this in all his posts

if you don't believe me just look at
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?members/cleveland-mark-blakemore.9382/

>>382822280
yes, he's a decades long character. one of the best of our time.

>>382804906

>Japanese
>Very Humble

Good one anon, they make good games but just like the rest of the world they crawl through shit and drag others with them to get there.

Most of the creatively talented have severe personality defects

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Reminder.

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>>382804542
Yes there's a lot of them, but they don't make outrageous statements so you can't shitpost about them. Professionals are usually humble about their work, or at least have a more grounded opinion on it.
Incompetent, recently started indie devs with no professionalism about them are the ones who usually mistake their small following for approval to act like their work is god's gift to mankind.

>>382804542
Should charge $50 and slap denuvo on it then so the unwashed masses would never play it.

>>382824294
Not in this case. The Grimoire dev has been working on his game for

T W E N T Y
T W E N T E
T W E N T A
T W E N T R
T W E N T S

>>382824410
I don't think he has enough money to get the Denuvo license. But write him a mail anyway, maybe you can convince him to do a fundraiser for Denuvo protection.

Or maybe he spent those 20 years on developing the greatest copy protection known to man, and anyone who pirates the game will be instantly erased from existence.

>>382804542
toady

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>>382804542
>look at store page
>looks like a game straight outta the year 1990
>$40

>>382812946
>game devs are arrogant if they like their own games.
I mean, you probably say that because you don't like that game but then he could just have shit taste like the fans who also think it's a 8/10 rpg.

>Ctrl+F Adams
>Phrase not found

Seriously, Dwarf Fortress is the only game that comes to mind.
Unfortunately not FOSS, but that's about the only thing one could criticise.
I don't think they even run a Patreon.

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>>382804542
>Pixel

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>>382818182
It used to be an Xbox 360 exclusive.

>>382812692
>telling people that the game will be even better several months after release

How stupid is this guy? That's just going to make people not buy it at release.

>>382804542
>atomic level of digital binary
This guy is a moron.

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>>382806898
>toby
>"my last wish for undertale is that when discussion of it fades it dies peacefully instead of morphing into a garbage cesspool"
>still jews the shit out of it with all the merch

> 40 dollarydoos for his garbage
I will be pirating day 1 tho
I want to see how much of a trainwreck a game that had almost 30 years poured into it is.

Since no one has played the game there is no way to judge if his claims are true. If he did indeed create the best, most hardcore, dungeon crawler ever made than he has every right to boast.

>>382812692
If you don't have autism, this clearly reads as sarcastic hyperbole .

I love this guy already, and all his shitposting actually has me interested in seeing how the game turns out.

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>>382804542
Maybe not the most humble, but he is the chillest. Dude gives zero fucks, as long as you don't try to take away his beer.

The game actually does look decent though.
I'm a sucker for dungeon-crawling but I might hold off for a couple of weeks to see how it turned out.

toadyone

>>382806190
This one shouldn't count as retro, he has been working on it since that was state of the art.

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>>382833903
>>382834860
I came into this thread to post these two. Good job anons.

>>382804542
Shit nigga thats how you market your game. I wouldn't have even googled it without a description like that

>>382827360
But he made a PC version after saying he wouldn't. Pathetic desu

>>382818576
Kamiya is an honest person. Just because he tells retards pestering him on twitter to fuck off doesn't mean he isn't a humble person.

Kojima used to be pretty humble but his increase in popularity and meme-status with even the biggest normies maybe got to his head. He acts like a rockstar, but maybe he was always like that, there was simply no twitter. Nothing wrong with it. It's not like he goes around claiming his videogames are the best. (because he'd be wrong since the last good game he made was MGS3)

>>382818576
>explain kojima

easy, he's a hack, not an artist

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>>382804542
I was surprised at how nice one of the Caves of Qud developers were while going through some of the negative reviews.

>>382835468
I'm sure if Phil was still with us, he'd be telling us to eat shit.

>>382813607
>Phil Fish cancelled Fez 2
I honestly doubt he was ever actually working on it. That whole scenario was like the developer equivalent to a teenage girl locking herself in the bathroom and saying she's gonna kill herself.

why a lot of gamedevs are insane

Where the hell is Phil anyway? I wish he shitposted here with us

>>382837543
I thought I already did when I played his game.

>>382804542
Its almost parody. So bad.

>>382837502
>he plays caves of quck

>>382804542
Lack of PR/Marketing personnell to keep the autism of programmers in check.

>>382807265
phil fish is literally a sociopath, he needs serious help

>>382804542
>ConcernedApe
he's the guy who made stardew valley by himself. i don't really follow him or the game anymore, but in the past he's helped fix other peoples' corrupted save files through twitter and i guess he's known for being involved with the game's community. seems like a genuine guy.