Subnautica

does it have a satisfying to use shotgun?

>>382781462
I don't know how effective a shotgun would be underwater

>>382781462
This. A good shotty makes or breaks a game.

how's the diving controls? never seen an underwater game that actually controls well.

>There is a story
I actually hate the story. I picked up the game because of cool alien world exploring under water. It feels like they shoehorned in the "ancient, super intelligent superior" race of aliens with their amazing technology.
>You get no actual weapons
They approached this awfully and could easily come up with workarounds that don't involve sandy hook.
>Metroidvania style world progression
How?

>>382781650
>>Metroidvania style world progression
>How?
You need different items and vehicles to access different areas/depths.

>>382781367
>muh graphics

>>382781829
I haven't played much into the genre so I'm not familiar with it entirely. Isn't that just normal progression? LoZ has this progression.

>>382781367
but does it run like shit and do the devs care at this point? I recall the last major sale or two that the devs were 6+ months behind on updates and QoL touches, and some terraforming feature was causing the game to lag like hell

>>382781829
that's just progression, not Metroidvania. Metroidvania is constantly backtracking to other areas due to gaining abilities through items or equipment that allow one to access new areas or items.

>>382781918
not really normal anymore since AAA games are just movies, but yeah, I wouldn't call it metroidvania. OP is weird.

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>>382781980
>describes exactly what it is
>says it's not that

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Seriously fucking speargun when, I want to shoot those annoying sharks with pointy sticks

>>382781980
Last time I played the pop in was still bad, objects were still rendering far out of view, and FPS was dropping if you had too many objects built. They removed terraforming because that was also apparently causing issues. RIP all those custom cyclops caves. From comments I've read, any sort of optimization won't happen until the last two months. So it probably still runs like shit.

>>382782024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroidvania
>Metroidvania games generally feature a large interconnected world map the player can explore, though access to parts of the world is often limited by doors or other portals that can only be opened after the player has acquired special items, tools, weapons or abilities within the game. Acquiring such improvements can also aid the player in defeating more difficult enemies and locating shortcuts and secret areas, and often includes retracing one's steps across the map.

Sounds a lot like subnautica.

>>382782276
Ok I admit I was wrong, sorry. Seems weird though because this isn't limited to metroid/castlevania.

>>382781650
>>382781535
>>382781462
>>382782150
This has got to be an ironic meme by now. The exact same crying about muh gunz with the exact same wording in every single Subnautica thread.

>>382782223
>>382781980
Performance seems to be a very individual experience. It runs fine on my rig with only the occasional hiccup, while people with ultra-gaming rigs have tons of problems and people with toasters have little problem.

>>382781650
>You get no actual weapons
Literally lying because you hate a game, wow.

>>382781367
Why are there no weapons?

The game they did before subnautica was about spess mahrins genociding cute little alien doggos.

Why the sudden "guns are bad" bullshit shift?

>>382782396
>>382782398
Wow, kill yourself ironically. You ignore the entirety of my fucking post just to focus on the guns aspect. You didn't even give a shit what the context of the post was, you just immediately went to
>REE NO GUNS REEEEE
Fuck off you pieces of shit. You are the ironic memes.

>>382782396
What the actual fug is wrong with wanting a damn speargun?

>>382781367
>Horror elements
I don't get what's scary about this game. I've heard that a few times so far. Is it just because people are afraid of the ocean?
>there is a win condition (you can beat the game) so the game doesn't just persist forever with nothing to do
It actually doesn't have an ending. It hasn't since it came out, because it's still EA. So no, it's not "done right"

Is this another early access scam, or does it feel like an actually complete experience? The only EA game I bought was Lego Worlds, which was a massive scam.
Also, is it a game where you've pretty much done everything after a couple of hours, and the rest is just repetitive padding?

>>382782587
>Is it just because people are afraid of the ocean?
Swimming in a body of water were the ground cant be seen (a lake is enough) is pure terror for me.

>>382782629
They add some cool shit now and again, but it's early access and yes you are going to do everything after a couple of hours and start feeling the grind.

>>382782441
I don't know but I like the game without proper weapons. Being able to just point at something you don't like and kill it really would change the dynamic of the game and, frankly, it would become trivial and uninteresting.

>>382782629
It's basically 3D Starbound underwater

It's NOT good.

>>382782547
subnautica is perfect in every way and suggesting its missing something cool is a personal insult to all glorious subnautica posters

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>>382782693
>Point and kill it
Stop strawmanning every fucking argument.

>>382782441
ONE of the devs, ONE single person, went on a rant about shootings. ONE MOTHERFUCKER who didn't want any killing of anything at all. The rest of the devs agreed about no actual guns but because they want the game to be about survival and progressing the story and not swimming around shooting every single organism in the world but told him to sod off with his sob story and there's plenty of ways to defend yourself and kill shit in the game.

>>382782508
Because at this point it's a tired old shitposter tactic so fuck off with it.

>>382782547
Why do you want a fucking speargun so badly when there's a Propulsion/Repulsion Cannon that does the same thing and can kill a Reaper Leviathan with five Crashfish? Do you honestly think a piddly speargun would do anything to a 55-meter long killing machine?

>>382782629
>or does it feel like an actually complete experience

Nope. Do not be fooled by the shills.

>>382782587
>swimming around at night on an alien planet
>dark as hell except for some bioluminescence from the living things around
>suddenly hear something laughing loudly
>exit game

I only later found out that the laughing was coming from giant farting fish but still that's not something you expect to hear deep in the ocean. Also those reefbacks were scary too.

>>382782508
I don't give a fuck about what you think of the story but clearly if you still cry about the lack of weapons you're a shitposter who hasn't played the game.

>>382782852
Do you not know how to use that term or something?

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>>382782946
For what fucking purpose would I take a speargun to a leviathan fight? Your own post outlines the ideal weapon in that situation, god damn it. I want a speargun for the annoying shits in the shallows.

>>382782629
>>382782952
>game's not finished yet
>"Why doesn't it have the complete experience!?"

Gee, Davey, I don't know.

>>382783020
Now who's ignoring everything to throw around random words and flail like a faggot? Either you're new to Subnautica threads or you're a lousy shitposter.

>>382783129
Shoot Crashfish at them too, this is not a difficult concept to grasp. Also those fuckers are so pathetic one swipe with the knife makes them run away.

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>>382783039
Kill yourself shitposter. I can think of a multitude of OTHER USES a fucking speargun could add to the game that doesn't involve killing everything in sight. But once again, you safe space faggots always respond with
>REEEEEE
>>382783041
He asked for weapons. He didn't ask for one shot nukes that kill everything on the map. Your immediate response? "I don't want to look in the direction of xyz and insta kill it, therefore you are wrong".
>>382783132
These threads deserve all the shitposting they get. I abandoned these threads because of you faggots. Not the niggers asking for guns. At this point, the people that want under water assault rifles are less faggoty than you.

If you pussyfists are so up in arms about a spear gun.

How about some form of echo/noise "gun" that when "shot" in the direction of fish makes them not wanna charge you anymore and fuck off.

>>382783395
There's already weapons in the game fag

>Knife
>Drill arm
>Propulsion cannon
>Electric forcefield
>Vortex and poison cannon

But clearly you don't play the game so you wouldn't know. Or wait, are you gonna cry that "T-THEY DON'T COUNT"?

>>382782441
>It's a "I didn't actually play the game to understand why there's no guns" episode

A knife isn't a weapon, neither is a cannon or torpedoes. On top of the above clearly being fucking weapons, guns would make the already weak fauna weaker. Why don't you retards understand this? Oh right because you didn't play the fucking game.

>>382783265
What about the flavor? The option? Maybe I want to shoot them with a spear instead of a crashfish, to help immerse me in that survival diving experience?

>>382783395
Dude, you've been screaming shitfits in every Subnautica thread over spearguns for the last year at least. I recognize you every time you post, so yes you are a shitposter. You're the ACfag of Subnautica threads, rejecting and ignoring everything told to you so you can keep raging about not having this one very specific weapon for whatever fucking mental problem reason you have.

There will never be a speargun. There is no reason to put in a speargun. You can kill nearly everything in the game perfectly fine without the need for a speargun. GET. THE. FUCK. OVER. IT.

>wanting spearguns
>not reverse engineering the notfades so you can telefrag shit

Do you fuckers even Apex lifeform?

how about the forest? I've seen that game has a end goal as well, anybody here play it? I like the idea of having an end to actually work towards instead of just playing until I have everything built but nothing to do with it

>>382781367
waiting for multiplayer. i own the game but i cant play it by myself. im scared as FUCK about deep ocean shit

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>thread turns into autists just wanting an underwater DOOM game

>>382783690
>You can kill nearly everything in the game perfectly fine without the need for a speargun.

So then what's the problem with a gun?

Also using items to kill wildlife feels very finicky/unintended.

>>382783749
It's ok.

>>382783751
>he thinks they're actually gonna add multiplayer

why the fuck would anyone play a game about terrifying monsters under the sea?

>>382783838
This isn't an underwater shoot-em-up, that's why.

>>382783856
i believe in them

>>382781367
I wish you could save the rescue crew by disabling the alien canon before they've arrived.

>>382783749
its better than most early access survival games but it's still shit and the survival element is basic as fuck

>>382784041
Why would anyone play a game about a fat plumber jumping on turtles?
Why would anyone play a game about a running hedgehog?
Why would anyone play a game about fighting streets?
Why would anyone play a game about fantasies that are final?
Why would anyone play a game about raiding tombs?
Why would anyone play a game about crashing bandicoots?

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>>382781367
Post yer hamster cages

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>think it would really cool to have a speargun in a alien diving game
>mfw all these shitposters

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>>382784041
Because
>Welcome aboard, captain. All systems online.

>>382783850
>>382784187
that's disappointing, thanks for the info though

>>382783856
It doesn't need multiplayer, people asking for that are retarded.

>>382783856
They said they would consider it after launch.

>>382784163
Why believe? They literally confirmed they're not going to. The developers had to remove an entire feature of the game because they couldn't figure out how to optimize it. They constantly get balancing changes wrong to the point that even the "community" was pissed off at choices they were making. They're pretty awful developers at times. The game was supposed to be released a long time ago, not to mention the map is tiny as shit. Multiplayer isn't happening. Not only that, but the faggots who play this game would have a heart attack if they tried to implement multiplayer.

>>382784221
It's called a habitrail, you walmart fuck.

>I love it when you come inside me

I wanna hug and fug that sub

>>382784403
Just post your seabase.

>>382784356
It might not need one but you know, it'd be nice.

I'm still leaving this game on my back burner for when 1.0 finally hits
which might be never, I dunno

>>382784498
No, it wouldn't. Only youtubers care for multiplayer in survival games.

>>382781568
Controls are by default on 'WASD' with Spacebar mapped to go straight up and C to go straight down. These controls are 100% remappable AND relative to the direction your facing. So if you are looking straight down and press W, you'll go straight down. The only time I end up using C to go down is in the giant submarine which can't "look" down.

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>>382781367
The only survival game that I like besides Subnautica is The Flame In The Flood and it doesn't have a lot of these elements. It has a comfy atmosphere, 10/10 music, and a win condition though. That is the important one, survival games where you can't actually survive feel pointless.

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>>382784325
I love this

>>382784325
I don't care for any of the vehicles except my Giant Robot

>>382784250

I'm convinced that people are only against spearguns because they're devs = god types. Since the devs explicitly decided not to put in weapons, it must be good design!

The forest is better

>>382784391
>The developers had to remove an entire feature of the game because they couldn't figure out how to optimize it.

Hilariously, the game is still terribly optimized with no sign of ever being fixed besides "b-but they'll patch it before 1.0!"

>>382785596
They're the same people who can't form their opinions aside from saying "that's retarded". Here's an example >>382784356

>>382785596
>>382785693
Quit samefagging, Spearfag. The reason there are no firearms are because they would trivialize the experience. A giant monster with claws for a face wouldn't have the same effect if the player had a gun and could fight it off.
You're a retard. Stop posting.

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>"You're not supposed to be able to make weapons, because you were on an engineering vessel!"
And you're telling me an engineer can't find a way to make a better heated knife?

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>>382785820
He's right. Learn to form your own opinions without sucking the developer cocks or without using shitty strawmen to dismiss everyone else's.

>>382784325
Too bad the Cyclops is useless now.

>levels are not procedural
Lost all interest
Zero replayability

>>382784721
Or people with friends. We can just make it easier for you and tell you that the developers already have multiplayer in mind sometime during launch or after launch, so you can continue to fellate their decisions.

>>382785596
You're just an underage homosexual.

Look at Resident Evil. That was originally a survival horror series. Then the games started becoming more focused on killing than surviving and it totally changed the game into something that it shouldn't have been. By RE6, there was no threat at all. Just endless ammo and you could even start using karate and ninjitsu and flashy wrestling moves on the zombies. It was a completely different genre. What virgins like you are suggesting is that they outright change the genre into something uninteresting just to suit you faggot ass bloodlust.

>>382785948
I gave a perfectly valid reason for why weapons can't be in Subnautica, what the fuck are you on about with dev worship?

>>382785820
>are because they would trivialize the experience.

But that is not true.

It is far more trivializing to repeatedly ram a Stalker or snake with the seamoth or drill/knife it to death. Which is what that people say you can do whenever guns are brought up. It's also something that you kind of have to do if you want to peacefully build an underwater home in certain locations.

The most dangerous/creepy enemies would be the leviathans and the mesmer, which wouldn't be affected by a speargun anyway. Do you truly think the cave crawlers are scary, or just annoying?

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>>382785921
>Posts Mortal Kombat: The FPS as his evidence as to why a game like subnautica should have weapons

>>382784545
They've been releasing big updates every ~1.5 months.
If they keep it up the game will be done in August or September.
https://trello.com/b/yxoJrFgP/subnautica-development

>>382786262
He's the ACfag of Subnautica, he's going to ignore and twist everything you say to him so he can keep claiming you're a mindless dev-sucking drone for thinking spearguns aren't necessary.

>>382786363
that's good news, I'm looking forward to it

>>382785963
You can build things like fabricators and such inside the Cyclops. It's a mobile base of sorts.

>>382786262
No you didn't.
>A giant monster with claws for a face wouldn't have the same effect if the player had a gun and could fight it off
You gave the same shitty strawman all you faggots give. That if you add even something like a spear gun, something real life sharks tend to ignore at times, every single LEVIATHAN TERROR bigger than your sub will be rendered helpless. You literally have no opinions of your own other than to suck the cocks of the developers and every other retard that repeats the same trite bullshit. It's become such a joke trying to have any discussions in these threads.

>>382786309
When have you ever even had to attack a stalker?

>>382786363
I just recently updated mine. The Containment Facility is open now, right?
I can finally meet the Princess?

>>382786189
We really don't have to look at [other game], because we're talking about [game]. That, and you decided to choose a game that was received more highly by audiences when they went action-packed in 2.

>>382786350
Their reasoning for why an engineering vessel would not have items capable of being used for personal weaponry was weak, and I just chose the nearest world-building comparison to why that was wrong. People also seem to think that weapons in a survival game would turn the game into a mindless mess. I guess that would be true, if resources were infinite and the enemies you faced the deeper you went were actually vulnerable to weapons. Protip: They probably won't be affected by weapons.

>>382781367
boring and nothing to do more like

silly op faggot

>>382786586

Have you ever explored the kelp forests? There's a shitload of stalkers around and you have to at least hurt them to get them to fuck off so you can explore.

>>382786121
>playing a survival game focused on being stranded in an alien planet
>b-but muh multiplayer

That's why we have tons of generic survival games released nowadays, because faggots like you beg for stupid elements to be implemented in every single game.

>>382782547
Avoiding combat is scarier and makes for a horror game.

>>382786934
Reminder, they are for fishing, not combat.

>>382786830
>playing a survival game focused on being stranded in an alien planet
Since when did stranded ever mean isolated? Regardless, the team decided it would take too long to implement, so it'd probably have to be done in a sequel.

>>382785963
Its not though, the last patch again pumped it up so random fish or crabcrawlers don't do that much damage to it. I got to lost river and back without fixing it and hull integrity was at 95%, and this was with random fishes attacking me because I got lost or stuck in some small opening.

>>382782547
You're not even in your planet, why the fuck would you want to kill the natives? That's why humans should be annihilated, they only seek destruction.

ITT:
>Outlast and Amnesia were the best horror games ever
I clapped! I clapped when I ran away from nothing!

>>382787207
It will not be done ever, not even in a sequel. Get over it.

PS4 when

>>382786596
Yep, you can meet the Emperor now. She's huge.

>>382787578
Amnesia was excellent.

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Is this game graphically intense? I really want to play it, but I don't want to buy a new pc. How is the xbone version?

>>382787401
>That's why humans should be annihilated, they only seek destruction.
Creatures that don't die, stop being a weak bitch.

>>382787994

The game honestly looks like garbage but is optimized so poorly that you'll still have FPS drops and pop-ins.

>>382787994
I have an okay PC and can run the game fine. The only issue is FPS stutter when entering a new area, it's a pain in the ass but not the worst.

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>>382787757
>PS4 getting a PC exclusive game

Well... last time it happened it became the PS4 best seller even though it looks like shit and can barely run. It'll probably get a port after the final version launches.

>>382787401

You're already killing the Peepers to eat them. Do only the lives of larger fauna matter? Sizeist.

>>382788271
>PC exclusive *also on Xbox

>>382781367
I hate idea of sea emperor communicating with you

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>>382788413
Does it?

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>>382788413
>be in some random dark area
>suddenly static noise

*WHO*.... *ARE*.... *YOU*

>>382788636

Yes. She's psychic and ancient.

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The spoiler tags are there for a reason THANKS.

>>382788748
That's creepy. But it's not like there isn't an indicator that life can do that on the planet. The Mesmer comes to mind, though I don't think it can out and out talk.

>>382788748
That's fucking stupid. It should have been an intelligent creature, but not ancient or psychic. It having the ability to cure that stupid virus should have been enough. Now they're just going retard levels.

>>382788871
>>>/neogaf/

>>382788932
Yeah, why should anything besides humans be intelligent, it's an insulting liberal mindset to say that non-human beasts could be even approaching the intelligence of the most special being in existence.

>>382781367
I wish there were more ways to decorate the exterior of your base. The sterile white look gets a bit boring after a while. How about letting me use all that spare gold and silver I found to make some fancy stuff?

>>382782684

For good reason, you can still die in a lake.

The Light Rail Avenger just drowned while kayaking in a lake recently.

Or he was really assassinated by a team of ninja.

>>382789364
>Recently
That was almost a year ago.

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>>382782587

>>382781367
Is this the zelda-killer?

>>382789206
She felt way more imposing just staring at you

>>382785596
A laser weapon or something futuristic makes more sense than a speargun, for fuck's sake if there's interplanetary travel there should be no reason to have a speargun over superior weaponry.
The speargun faggot is just a low functioning autismo.

>>382789675
>Interplanetary travel
>Still using knives and shitty submarines

>>382789675
>A laser weapon or something futuristic makes more sense than a speargun

Achksually, the lore explains that futuristic weapons were banned after a massacre. Spearguns however are tools with a specific purpose.

>>382789791
If you're going to get that nitpicky, the escape pods are woefully understocked with supplies to a nonsensical point for an interplanetary vessel. There should be several years worth of supplies on them, at least.

Regardless, a speargun doesn't even fit the aesthetic, I'd legitimately like to see someone design one that did.
Spearguns are supposed to be rusty clunky bigass pieces of kit, not smooth and white.


>>382790024
And why can't you repurpose the laser cutter, or cannibalize the alien tech?

>>382790024
>a specific purpose

Yes, killing things. That's it

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Shh, becareful on the water guys!
You would want to disturb this little fella would ya?
Whew! I get goosebumps from looking at it

>>382790182
So let me get this straight, you're allowed to be nitpicky, but I'm not.

>>382789426

Oh really?

I just found out yesterday in a filename thread.

That's hilarious.

If you want to be a hero then expect to die young.

>>382790295
There's a limit to nitpickyness for the sake of gameplay mechanics.

>>382790361
>There's a limit
Yeah, that limit is only when it suits your arguments it looks like.

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>>382790182
>Spearguns are supposed to be rusty clunky bigass pieces of kit, not smooth and white.
Confirmed to have never used a speargun.

>>382790451
Does that fit any game's aesthetic?
No.
Rusty shit looks better and gives off a better speargun vibe.

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>no speargun
Trash'd

Anyone know how to fix this annoying bug that makes the music cut out seemingly at random? Also, sometimes you'll load up the game and your pressure mods don't activate despite being installed in the seamoth, so you get surprised by damage at 200m when you should be fine to 900. Does this happen to anyone else?

>>382790589
>Does that fit any game's aesthetic?
Make it white and it absolutely fits the games aesthetic. I'm not on the speargun train at all, but claiming it doesn't fit the aesthetic is just you being a faggot.

>>382790639
Those are some of the bugs they're dedicating the time until October to fixing as well as optimizing and other things, alongside putting the final endgame stuff in.

>>382790589
>Rusty shit looks better and gives off a better speargun vibe.
But that's retarded. You'd want a spear gun to NOT be rusty. Are you an idiot?

>>382781918
I guess you can "kind of" call it Metroidvania. You go to one part of the map and explore until you face a road block like pressure or radiation, and then you go to the other end of the map to get a tool (or materials for the tool) in order to go back and clear that roadblock.

I guess that couod also describe Zelda games too, so maybe I'm a little unclear in what specifically makes a game have Metroidvania progression.

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>faggots wanting guns
is the game too scary for you or something? being able to scare shit off/kill shit would ruin moments like pic related

>>382782441
I'd be fine with no guns if the dev would just remove the headcrab things. They make exploring islands an absolute chore.

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>>382790451
>>382790589
Hell, just throw one of these in. Titanium and synthetic rubber.

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>>382790194
The idea of Steve Irwin wrestling a reaper leviathan into submission makes me really happy.

>>382791039
Buttchin isn't scary for anyone over 12

>>382781367
Boring and too easy.

>>382791039

The hostile fauna are not scary. They're more like living obstacles than anything else.

What is actually scary is the environment itself. Being 300m+ under and running out of power and oxygen. Getting turned around in a cave and being unable to remember where you came from. These would still exist even if you could murder everything you see.

>>382792652
>Running out of power and oxygen
That's more annoying than scary. Especially when trying to explore the shitty underwater wrecks left over from the main ship. Only in this retarded universe does a tank of oyxgen last 30 seconds.

>>382792768
>Only in this retarded universe does a tank of oyxgen last 30 seconds.

It's an abstraction. The same way a day in the game only lasts like 10 minutes.

>>382792941
It's another example of their inability to balance their game properly. Want to explore an underwater wreck? Park your seamoth just outside the entrance, waste about 5 minutes worth of time swimming back and forth trying to cut open the door, waste another 5 minutes worth of time swimming back and forth between the wreck and your moth because your oxygen is already halfway depleted by the time you get anywhere. It's stupidity. The days being short does not excuse this.

>>382783395
Christ do you ever tired of shitposting? Just stop.

>>382783663
Then go play another game retard.

>>382784358
No they said never ever.

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>>382793280
Or you could just bring more oxygen with you
Or you could pump oxygen directly into the cave

I think the problem with this game (if can indeed be considered a problem with the game) is that it overestimates plebs' abilities to solve simple problems. The maximum extent of the walmart pleb's problem solving skills begin and end with SHOOT IT WITH MUH GUN and GIBME EVERYTHANGZ FO' FREE. Also PUT MOVIEZ IN DA SHIT SO I DONT GOTS TA PLAY IT.

>>382793280

I don't disagree. I think the time it has could be longer, double or maybe triple the length.

>>382786189
That's a stupid point. Re4 is the best by far.

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>build cyclops
>go exploring
>single yellow blip on the radar
also holy shit where are the components for just a basic ass room, my current base consists of 2 tubes and a cross tube

>buy Subnautica in 2016
>open thread on /v/ to discuss how fun it is
>"muh guuuns sjw reeee"
>open Subnautica thread in 2017
>"muh guuuns sjw reeee"
lmao you guys are pathetic

>>382793701

Yes, everyone but you is stupid.

Bringing more oxygen with you hardly helps because of the limited inventory space. You've already got 1/2 your inventory taken up by tools and other garbage you have to carry around with you everywhere.

>>382793906
multipurpose room found on the floating island

>>382793906
There's a ton of fragments in the wreck next to pod 17 and in the Aurora.

I want to like this game but the unintuitive crafting puts me off every time. I think I burned out that circuit in my brain playing too much minecraft years ago.

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>>382793935
>I'll just ignore the part about piping oxygen into the cave
You simple fuck. They give the tools to solve every problem and you still MUH DICK every time you don't get to shoot something.

>>382793906
That took me a while too and I found it totally by accident. There are actually spots with dry land in the game. On these islands are derelict habitations. You can scan these things to gain their blueprints.

>>382791072
That's why the Repulsor Cannon exists.

>>382794162

Because it's tedious and takes a large amount of resources/time. Not an early game solution, and not functionally any different from swimming back and forth to the seamoth. We're talking about shit that would save you time.

>>382794809
>not an early game solution
It's one of the blueprints you know when starting the game. Frankly both that and the diving reel are there for, seemingly, that solitary reason.

>>382794046
>>382794295
where?

>>382795996
That scary floating island in the middle of the sea with no bottom in sight.

>>382793280
Or just make a second tank and have a Rebreather and use that Seaglide you should have made in the first five minutes of starting the game.

>>382781367
Why would I play a game who's dev blames us for shit like Columbine? HE thinks we're dangerous if he adds guns to his game.

Fuck him. Probably lives in San Fran and shits on is customers regularly

>>382796324
Man, you shitposters are such one-trick bronies.

>>382796324
>us
>we
us gamers right

>>382796117
yeah but where relative to the aurora? North? South?

>>382796463
>>382796595

So he insults you and you respond with AHHA NOT ME DOE

He was talking about every person that plays games, you fucking cunts. Fuck. Him. I don't need moralistic hipsters trying to teach me about violence. I just wont buy the game. I don't like being spoken down to by any devs. You shouldn't either. But I guess you do.

>>382796595
>us gamers

You are one though faggot -

>>382796891
no i'm not, fuck off

>>382793701
You sound like the devs with your attitude lol.

>>382796793
devs play games too so he's must be talking about himself too right

I want to play it but I don't want to get burned on the early access and then never touch it again

Is this at a good enough point to start now?

>>382797065
If you don't play videogames then why the fuck are you here bitch? Masochist?

Should I buy this game if I've already bought the long dark?

Damnit Hugh, make more threads about NS2! I know you like subnautica, but NS2 needs more players!

>dev insults potential customers
>people who bought the game love it and want it to continue

I'm really glad I'm not on this shitty ride with you guys. Enjoy paying people to shit on you.

>>382797169
I mean, he said people who play games shouldn't want to use weapons or there's something wrong with them.

That means anyone who plays games m8. Regardless of semantics

>>382797065
Yes you are lmao. That's all you are really.

>>382783781
/v/ is basically /pol/ 2.0 at this point.

>>382797232
to complain about the video games I don't play, why else?

>>382783781
>>382797609

It's kinda amazing how triggered you guys get that some people here don't like your game so much.

>>382797657
>meme answer

Nigger we all know he meant you along with everyone else. I should have said /v/ posters instead of gamers because thats who he's referring to really.

>>382797721
>>382797721
It's kind of amazing how triggered you are that one dev holds a political opinion you disagree with that you feel the need to ruin every thread about this game forever. You people can be the most sensitive little snowflakes sometimes.

>>382797609
>wanting a speargun in an underwater game makes you /pol/
What kind of logic is this?

>>382797270
I cant believe they are still updating that shit. Is it even worth redownloading? When it came out there was so much hype but then
>lol 8 minute load times

>>382796659
behind it

>>382797972
>It's kind of amazing how triggered you are that one dev holds a political opinion you disagree with

lol, I guarantee you if the devs came out as Trump supporters half of you would drop it in a second due to political bullshit. Get fucked.

>>382797848
>dev makes some stupid statement about violence in video games
>he personally insulted every /v/ poster

There is a weapon 10X more deadly than a fucking speargun in the game and the idiots bitching just haven't figured it out yet. I haven't used them to try and kill a leviathan or mister fisty dragon, if it is even possible, but they kill everything else.

>>382798453
Really you can snippity-snap everything but leviathans to death with basic prawn arms.

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>>382797721
> some people here don't like your game so much.
I'm sure they're hurting.

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>>382795996
not on pc anymore but tried to draw it for you

>>382797998
Some people here said that they refuse to buy the game because one of the twenty devs don't share the same political beliefs as they do (ie literally SJW tier thinking)

>>382781367
>no actual weapons
Fuck that. Just as bad as those horror games where all you do is sneak and hide. Fuck those and fuck you.

>>382799718
Its not a horror game, why would there be weapons?

>>382799489
Thanks mate.

>>382799718
There's nothing horrifying about anything if you have weapons. Why do you think soldiers are so brave?

>>382799931
Just keep swimming into that direction, the island should appear on your horizon, its hidden and behind some weird invisible cloak before it actually shows up but you should be able to notice

>>382783781
>Autists scream about not wanting any weapons whatsoever because muh "scarier"
It's a concept that has gotten old very fast and a reason why games are backtracking on it across the board.

>>382781367
>all these "why no guns????" baits
>all these retards defending the lack of weapons without giving in-game reasons

Not sure which is worse.

In the game you are a regular schmuck that has somehow survived the spaceship crash. Luckily you have a fabricator from the ship that can turn raw resources into useful items. You don't have the blueprints for more complicated items so you have to find currently existing ones before you can recreate them.
Imagine being on that ship before the crash though. Don't you think it would be a bit of a security risk to have any crew member able to just walk up to one of these things and pull out a fully loaded shotgun? Or grenades?

>>382781367
>there is a win condition
Since when? I haven't played in a while.

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>>382800223
see
>>382799405

And go back to your john cena fascination.

So wheb will multiplayer be added? The dev DID promise it 3 years back.

>>382800257
not yet implemented.

>>382800174
yeah if you have a large render distance then just get above water and look at the horizon
you won't see an island but it is instead very cloudy for some (hopefully plot unrelated) reason

>tfw you occasionally start up a new game and spawn in the creatures with first person attack/death sequences just so you can get eaten by them

>>382800241
>any crew member able to just walk up to one of these things and pull out a fully loaded shotgun? Or grenades?

This is just your own bait. There is a big jump between a speargun and a fully loaded Fat Man that can launch mini nukes. The idea that killing fish will turn the game into COD is ridiculous.

>>382800223
Why would I want pistols and AK-47s in a game where I can punch and drill shit to death with a mecha and blow them up with kamikaze fish? Do you people consider Shadow the Hedgehog the best Sonic game ever because you can mow down soldiers with miniguns and 9mms instead of spin-jumping them?

Where the fuck do I get diamond?
I've just built my first tiny ass base on the edge of the cliff that overlooking the area thats all irradiated. Got a radiation suit, got seamoth.
Wanna build a laser cutter since I figure I'll need it to tackle the Aurora anyhow.

Also WHEN should one tackle the aurora?
I've got no idea where or when to progress.

>>382800947
You can tackle the aurora as soon as you get the laser cutter, scanner, seaglider and repair tool.

Diamonds can be found on the northern island from lifepod spawn

>>382800584
We all know the only reason people shitpost about guns is because one of the devs have a differing political view, if they just simply said "no." then noone would care and accept it

>>382800947
Eventually you receive a distress signle from the beacon in the life pod that tells you to wait for rescue at a desingated spot. On that spot at these little breakable rocks that contain mostly gold and silver but also sometimes drop diamonds. That's where I got mine.

>>382800584
The people in this future don't even eat plants and animals anymore with a very few exceptions like Marguerit Maida the mercenary, they eat nutrient blocks. The computer even assures you that once upon a time it was normal and okay to eat animals and it's okay to eat them now. The idea of cobbling together a speargun to this random shmuck engineer/worker is as foreign a concept as assembling a plasma grenade launcher is to us. And it's a phasegate contruction ship, not a deep-space hunting ship, why would they have have spearguns on it?

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dook dook

>You get no actual weapons

bad game design

>>382801230
>>382801149
Wait, there are island now?
Holy shit.
I haven't played since before basebuilding, the colossus and even before the Aurora was more than just a skybox background texture.
So much content since then.

>>382781530
not very

>>382801152

I don't agree. The reason that political post occurred in the first place was because people had a genuine interest in weapons.

>>382801487
I didn't say that gunpeople would play but that they wouldn't be shitposting so hard about it if the devs didn't fuck up

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>>382793906

>>382781367
>>you get no actual weapons

how in the world is that a good thing?

>>382802243
>Every single game in existence needs weapons
:(

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It makes sense they won't be done because they'd be too large for the playable world but fuck me if the fact they won't doesn't make me sad. These unused sub concepts are doing things to me.

Never ever buy early access games from literal who developers.
The only early access game I bought was Divinity OS 2 because I know it's going to be finished.

>>382796659
South. You can see fog covering up the island from a distance.

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>>382802321
Mod when?

>>382802461
It doesn't matter, Subnautica already offers enough content to make your money's worth and doesn't have any bugs or flaws unless you are one of those gunfags

>>382801362
I know this is yet more shitposting, but

PRAWN suit standard arm
PRAWN suit drill arm
Seamoth Perimeter Defense System
Seamoth ramming
Gas Torpedoes
Vortex Torpedoes
Cyclops ramming
Propulsion Cannon + Crashfish
Repulsion Cannon
Stasis Rifle
Knife

Explain why you need guns so badly with all of those available to you.

>>382802243
>no weapons
>has air cannons you can smash creatures to pieces against walls with, and fucking knives
Sure it doesn't. You just want a gun, which means your complaint is invalid.

>>382799718
You're wrong on every level, my friend.

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>>382802592
More like game when.

>>382802779
Are they ever going to add a Cthulhu sized creature? Would love to see that

>>382802609
>no bugs
Last time I pirated it ran like absolute shit
And my PC is pretty decent

>>382802321
I wish they'd gone with the Manta design so you can have the Seamoth and Prawn in each wing.

>>382802675
Fucking torpedoes are allowed but no personal effects. The level of autism in these threads is beyond comprehension.

>>382802868
The Leviathan classes are the current largest things planned as far I know. They do plan to start working on an expansion once they've released, so maybe they'll go bigger and spoopier then. There's clearly larger things that have at least existed in the past judging by the big skeletons and the Leviathan species all have some level of higher intelligence.

>>382802675
Oh so OP was just lying and you do get weapons? carry on then

>>382802609
>doesn't have any bugs or flaws

Come the fuck on. Until recently you couldn't eveb use the underwater storage units because they would eat anything you put in them.

There are a ton of bugs, balance issues, and optimization issues.

>All these humanoid monsters so they dont actually feel like monsters just giant furfags.

>>382802675

Explain why a speargun for early game and mid game usage is unacceptable but chasing fauna with a knife and your seaglide is fine.

>can't eat meat can only vegetables.

This is some faggot ass vegan bullshit

>>382803503
I too hate it when my vegetables swim away from me.

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The thing I want in most right now is this guy. They have him rigged and even had some animations done when they put him on hold because of terraforming being removed. The fanbase has pretty much answered the question of what can it do with having versions of the Large Resource Deposits that it can punch apart as well as knocking around the mobile rocks Floaters are usually attached to. Plus it can be a hazard for seabases that are too large/noisy in their territories, and if you get too close to it it can take a swing at you.

>>382781367
>Be human in hostile environment
>Should use any and all tools at your disposal to survive
>can't

>>382803607
I honestly don't even need it doing anything. Just puttering around on the ocean floor and take a swing at you if you come close would be fine. Considering most of the work is already done anyway, there's no reason to have it.

>>382803348
Why would you need a speargun when the Propulsion Cannon can be gotten in the first five minutes and does everything a speargun can and better?

>grab things from range
>pick up edible fish and crafting materials without chasing
>chuck shit at Stalkers to kill them outright or make them fuck off

Find a Crashfish and grab it, swim to a nearby kelp forect, fire it at Stalker, no more Stalker.

>>382803503
what? Most of your sustenance comes from fish.

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>>382803647
>be spacenoid
>crash-land on alien planet
>have two obvious options for self-defense
>jury-rig a shitty speargun out of three pieces of metal and an air canister and hope it shoots with enough force to hurt things
>use the company-provided autolathe to produce a gravity gun
Hmmmmmm

>>382785921
How do you know the player character is an engineer?

>>382803195
no "actual" weapons. That is, weapons solely designed for destruction or mass destruction. The knife is a harvesting tool and the other items aren't used for killing. Just temporarily neutralizing.

>>382803973
Doesn't matter what he is for the purpose of the story, what matters is that he isn't a hunter with knowledge of making weapons from scrap metal so stop demanding he be able to Macguyver together miniguns from dental floss and a warp engine.

>>382803921
>Alien tech just lying around.
>Can't reverse engineer the giant laser cannon with your handy scan anything and know about it device.

>>382803856

Why do you need to have planters and create a farm when you can just keep murdering Peepers? Why would you build pipes when you can just use vehicles?

There are multiple solutions to problems in the game, as there should be.

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>>382804205
>reverse-engineer giant alien artillery
>can now produce giant alien artillery
>still can't do anything with it

>>382804238
>There are multiple solutions to problems in the game, as there should be.

Exactly. You can chase down those fish or grab them with a Propulsion. You can swim to the Floating Island to get a marblemelon every time you need to eat or you can build a growbed and grow your own Marblemelons. You can breathe underwater with tubes or go into a vehicle.

Why does the game absolutely positively without argument or question require a fucking speargun at all?

>>382803921
>Propulsion cannon
Fuck me, I have the fucking cyclops, seamoth and all sorts of good shit but I've only found 1/2 schematics for that fucking cannon.


Also what is the deal with those two fucking spergs arguing about a speargun? The real problem is the lack of fucking copper unless you can harvest the big nodes, shit tons of silver and gold and fuck all copper

>>382805078
the starting area has tons of it.

>>382805078
There's propulsion cannon pieces all over the place alongside the Aurora.

>>382805078
How do you harvest the big nodes?

How to fix Subnautica
>Delete the scanner room
>Make it a Cyclops upgrade

There, now you actually have a valuable reason to use the Cyclops

>>382781367
no weapon is fucking retarded in a survival situation on an unknown hostile planet.
still, this is a great game.

>>382805405
Prawn suit drill arm.

>>382805740
>no weapon

See >>382802675 and shut the fuck up with this meme.

>>382805341
It's supposed to but I'm lucky if I can find one or two searching the whole zone

>>382805351
Deep end or shallow? The cyclops can only get to 500m since it seems the upgrades are in the Aurora and I need the cannon to clear the door

>>382805405
I wish I knew


Is moving my power cell charger onto the Cyclops a good idea or does it drain more power than it outputs?

>>382805740
I'd be inclined to agree but weapons can absolutely wreck survival games. The Forest becomes a cake-walk and loses all tension real fast because of them

It's performance is trash on my 970, borderline unplayable

>>382805930
>Is moving my power cell charger onto the Cyclops a good idea or does it drain more power than it outputs?
Even trade. You'll gain nothing.

>>382806191
>>382802871
>>382803207
Works on my machine
Shouldn't have pirated it ;)

>>382806194
Fuck, I read that at one point it generated more than it drained, figured they'd have fixed that by now

>>382806194
It used to be profitable (2016 june), did they change it?
I would get infinite power that way

Just found the island.
Is this a good place to build a base, given the exterior/interior garden blueprints and shit?

I'm trying to figure out where to build a decent primary base.

>>382806194
Can you put a solar panel on the cyclops?

>>382806330
Enjoy your early access trash
>he actually pays for unfinished games
Lmaoooo

>>382806191
I get an average of ~90fps maxed on a 980ti but there are plenty of instances where the FPS goes well below 60. They have yet to do a proper optimization pass, it seems.

>>382806330

I did not pirate it. I'll definitely refund once it leaves early access though despite having 30 hours in it. :^)

>>382796324
>Why would I play a game who's dev blames us for shit like Columbine? HE thinks we're dangerous if he adds guns to his game.

I hate the dumbass who first posted this SJW cringey bullshit.

It was later clarified by another dev that their decision not to include guns in the game had nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with the setting.

You're playing as a scientist/engineer in a complex alien ecosystem. You're not a character who goes in guns blazing, you're a researcher first and foremost with weapons a distant last resort. Another reason they decided not to add guns was because they felt it would destroy much of the enjoyment of the gameplay. Instead of learning the quirks of each individual species of fish and how to navigate them they suspected players would instead shoot everything if they were given a proper weapon.

That being said, they do allow room for creative use of mechanics to kill things. Like you can breed those crash fish in an aquarium and use them in junction with a gravity gun if you really want to explode things.

>>382806448
>>382806458
Yeah, it used to give way more than it drained but it was a bug they intended to fix but just took them forever to do so. I think it was either the Silent Running update or VotD. Makes sense though, being able to charge your Power Cells like that sort of made they whole thing pointless.

>>382806678
Above water bases can be screwy. The area below is the Grand Reef though, which is quite safe, not too deep in areas 200 - 500m mostly, and not too heavy on hostile wildlife as long as you stay out of it's caverns below.

>>382806715
Never tried. I think you actually could in the past, but was fixed a long time ago. There's now the Heat Charging Module (not called that) though, which works like the one for the PRAWN with the difference being it only works below 30% power because with six Cells, that's quite a bit.