If Path of Exile is so much better than D3, why the fuck isn't

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>>382766803
Nioh is better than both and has gameplay.

>>382766803
Honestly, most ARPG's/Hack n' Slashes just aren't fun anymore. There hasn't been any new innovations or major gameplay changes in the series for decades.

Of course people are going to get bored quickly. Granted D3 had some smooth fuckin combat that was just fun, but even then that can only last so long.

The one true king thats still fun today is NoX.

>>382767046

>putting diablo style loot in a souls clone

Not a good combo.

D3 really knocked it out if the park with how fun it is to play. Unfortunately every other mechanic suffers.

PoE has great granularity in how you make your character, but it is so fucking boring to play.

Make D3 as complex as PoE, or PoE as fun to as D3, and you have the perfect ARPG.

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>>382767262
I guess the question to ask is, can you even make a perfect ARPG, or a game for that matter?

>>382766803

the problems with poe

>copy a popular build, boom, you just won the game, everything is easy
>there is no real goal after finishing story
>you quickly hit a point where all maps t1-16 become easy as fuck
>there is no real challenge or teamwork required
>no mechanical skills required

its good for a playthrough or two perhaps, thats it.

>>382767517

ps: bring me back the wc3 rpg map era.

>>382767490

Absolutely its called Diablo 2. Problem is you can get tired of a perfect game after playing it for 20 years

>>382766803
D3 is awesome if:

>you can't be bothered to come up with your own build
>you want to be showered in godlike items, eliminating the excitement of finding them

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>>382767191
>being a shitter who could not finish wots or wotd

>putting diablo style loot in a souls clone
BTW how is this bad? HAVING ACTUAL GAMEPLAY compared to clicking shit like a literally retard? Hack and Slash with isometric gameplay should die.

>>382767642
As a guy who has played years of it, it has many faults in how broken many of its skill and item mechanics are. The UI has minor issues too.

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Why aren't you playing this already? Seems perfect.

>>382767682

>showered in godlike items

The problem with d3 is you find legendaries constantly, but 95% are trash. Finding a legendary item should be exciting and not happen very often

>>382767682
>you want to be showered in godlike items, eliminating the excitement of finding them
This really ruins the game. Even if the devs are lazy with end build designs, rarity of items would fix this partly by forcing you to work with the drops you get.

>>382767834
Is it free to play and in english?

>>382767834
what game?

>>382767873
You don't even need to find shit any more. Just gamble shards and put resources in the cube, sad.

>>382767834

>Generic Korean Grinder #34534534
>Perfect

Right.

>>382767745

>Only gameplay i like is actual gameplay

Dark souls was a mistake

>>382767834
>moon runes

Stop.

>>382767745
>how is this bad
It enforces grinding
Can you imagine playing dark souls but you can't move on from the first area because you have to grind some shitty item for 60 hours?

>>382767873
People shit talk original D3. But inferno D3 was 100x better than this garbage.

>>382767517
This all applies to D3 lmao

>>382767490
>can you even make a perfect ARPG
d3's motion combat
grim dawn mix and match skill synergy system
grim dawn devotion system mixed with poe's ffx style system
titan quest style setting (literally anything except the same shitty crumbling castles, haunted woods, that every other arpg uses)
diablo 1 and 2 map generation
diablo 3 rifts/poe maps but with a menu to customize numerous aspects of them and create a game for others to join
a nice chat lobby for both individual games, general, trading, etc.
poe's leagues with d2 ladders

or something.

>>382768237
I too like epic mythological settings.
But would you play an ARPG set in BLAME! universe?

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>>382768146
>Can you imagine playing dark souls but you can't move on from the first area because you have to grind some shitty item for 60 hours?

I can't because this does not happen in Nioh. Normal and WOTS can be done with ANY gear. MAYBE in WOTD you need to farm for gear but this is the end game territory.

>>382768035
>I can't adapt to new gameplay let my gameplay be low skilled shit with no thinking

Fucking Diablo shitter.

>>382767834
Cause I saw gameplay videos of it like 5 years ago and haven't seen shit since.

>80% of steam players haven't finished act 3 in poe
>meanwhile 80% of diablo players have

poe is really boring and bland. You just literally use one skill. arpg autists who grind endgame need not apply.

>>382768482
>I can't because this does not happen in Nioh
Then it's not Diablo-style loot system, you dumbass
Have you ever played Diablo 2?
The amount of grinding you have to do as some classes is fucking ridiculous

>>382768482

>I cant adapt to new gameplay

Are you describing yourself? Ive finished ds 1,2,3 and bloodborne several times. Couldnt finish nioh because its boring. I also like to play games that arent souls clones.

>>382768706
normal and nightmare can be done without much grinding hell is the point where you grind.

>>382768803
Yeah, no, try playing as necromancer
Unless you grind like a motherfucker Duriel just shits all over your summons

>>382768731
>game with more mechanic depth than any Souls
>couldnt finish nioh because its boring

Yea sure mate how often did Umi-bozu rek you did he break you?

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>>382767834
When does this fucking come out? I remember watching the trailer three years ago.

>>382768148
Except it wasn't. The loot system was worse in the opposite way. You'd get one legendary every xx hours of grinding and it would suck so bad it'd often be significantly worse than uncommon or rare loot you were wearing and the only way to progress without literally wasting your life away grinding 24/7 was to buy overpriced shit on the AH off of those who were lucky enough to get a good drop, and gold was scarce those days so you had to grind for that too for each piece you wanted to buy. Unless you paid real money.

I don't miss that shit at all, i played vanilla D3 for 200-300 hours and not once did i experience the joy of finding a decent legendary that i didn't end up vendoring for repair funds.

>>382768668
You can stomp the entire campaign on diablo without using a skill, of course they have. It's an ARPG for people who want to feel good about themselves for little effort.

>>382769070

>implying i got that far

I quit after the centipede

I dod enjoy Marvel Heroes but I hear that tge fuckers from Marvel HQ is going to fuck things up and remove the characters like the F4 from the game simply because of the petty grudge.

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>>382769438
LMAO

>>382767834
>Playing korean grindhouse pay2win bullshit
No, thank you.

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>>382768237
but they question is, can those ever be implemented together and would the outcome be the perfect game?

>>382769406

>without using a skill

What? I hope youre talking about diablo 1. D2 and D3 may be easy but i doubt youd get far using regular attacks

>>382766803
>(((fun)))

>>382766803
diablo isn't fun you just grind for days
with a very restricted number of spells and abilities

>>382769568

>Niohs so trash people quit before they get to the hard bosses

Lmao

>>382769734
D3, and yeah the campaign is a joke. The only difficulty that exists even after the campaign is when you get hit by a bad prefix combo of elites in a bad area.

>>382768040
>muh globalist pride feefee are hurt by this foreign language!

>>382769404
Legs weren't good in the first place. Oh god having to play the game to find good gear what a nightmare! Oh no that gear isn't good for my class guess i'll just sell it on the ah and buy whatever I want oh the horror!

>>382769850

You can increase the difficulty as much as you want. Unless youre saying Torment 13 was too easy for you

>>382769948
I'm saying having to increase the difficulty to where I can't do damage to an enemy because on the difficulties I should be running it's impossible for me to die is boring. The grind all the way through the game and at endgame is the most simplified one with the fewest endgame options of all ARPGs out right now.

>>382769898
Spoken like someone who never actually played vanilla.

>>382768168
You dont even have to copy builds in d3, item already tell you what skills to use

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>>382769898

>oh no
>oh the horror

Not him but vanilla d3s ah based loot was terrible. I enjoyed the gameplay though. Inferno was a decent challenge and it was satisfying to kill diablo with a group of badly geared friends

>>382770060
And the game actively makes sure you use those combinations or suffer an even more tedious experience.

>>382770045

>cant damage the enemy
>cant die

This shouldnt happen. You were probably geared too defensively

>>382767834
>not out
>korean therefore only fun on the surface
What will it take for Worst Korea to make a game that you just buy to play and has normal item droprates for an ARPG?

>>382769404
Still better than leg shower we have right now.

>>382770057
Beat inferno on a barbarian l2p.

>>382769835
>can't beat centipede
>talks about Nioh

LMAO

>>382766803
The 'fun' is in the autistic item/skill system.

In terms of things feeling visceral Diablo 3 still has it beat.

>>382771072

>Cant beat centepede

Are you actually illiterate? What the fuck man

>>382769948
Hahaha you either don't play d3 or are a complete fucking shitter because T13 is EASY unless you're fuckin retarded at gearing yourself. T13 is for speed farming only

this is coming from a bad player

worst part of d3 by far is having to confirm you want to salvage every shitty leg you find

>>382771235

>make level 1 character
>put game on t13

Let me know how that goes champ. I obviously wasnt talking about endgame geared characters

>>382768482
I agree that diablolikes should be third person with advanced melee combat mechanics, but they shouldn't play anything like dark souls. That game is way too slow, way too focused on melee, has far too few monsters at any given moment and has effectively no classes (and especially no skill trees).

>>382771407
retard, it takes literally one hour to level to 70 nowadays unless you're awful so why would you even be talking about an unleveled character
t13 is not endgame. t13 is equivalent to like gr60 which is just midgame. endgame is like 90+

>>382771531

>why would you be talking about an unleveled character

Because the guy i was talking to was talking about the campaign you goddamed moron

>>382770395
Wizard built only for Damage.

>no way to create a new character that's completely separate from your other characters, other than playing a new season for the first time which happens twice a year
why

>>382775991
I dont get the reasoning behind releasing necro patch 3 weeks before the actual season starts. I mean, we all know they are not going to fix shit until the next major patch so why wait.

>>382767834
>korean dogshit dash grind graphics tech demo

yeah no

>>382768148
Yeah that was the last time I actually had fun in that game.

>>382768237
>d3s wait for the bullet sponges to soak combat

please no

>>382767642
>d2
>a perfect game
good one

>>382771707
>ARPG
>giving a shit about the grind to endgame

vanilla d3 = meh
d3 + ros + necromancer = godtier

>>382766803
engine, physics and optimization obviously you fucking idiot.

exile has a better system

diablo has better gameplay

D3 > POE > TL2 > GD

People don't seem to understand that this genre of game is meant to be a casual "play for 30 minutes and then stop" kind of game
Diablo 3 currently handles this perfectly, whereas POE just bogs you down with lots of messy gimmicks.
Torchlight's got a great gimmick: pets that can take your shit back to town, it's just a shame that the game's a bit boring.
And Grim Dawn is literally just "hold down right click and spam lots of passives"

>>382776848
endgame variety is nonexistent

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>>382777095

>>382777110
What variety? It's a game where you kill shit to get loot to kill more shit etc.

>itt: casual faggots voice their cancer opinion

>>382766803
>and why does everything look like shit
Weird ass camera angle. It's look good enough if you had a decent perspective.
>why the fuck isn't it nearly as fun
Because getting to endgame content is a slog compared to deeblo.

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>https://clips.twitch.
tv/SucculentClearAlmondEagleEye

Only autists care about endgame. Any sane person would only play the campaign once and do endgame for about a few hours then quit. How the fuck do people put thousands of hours just raping everything in sight?

>>382777478
>neo /v
go watch your chinese cartoons retard

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>>382777095
>And Grim Dawn is literally just "hold down right click and spam lots of passives"
All day everyday until you get tired of getting btfo.

lol stay buttmad haters, I just bought diablo 3 for the third time on PS4 last night, played for 5 hours straight with my hot girlfriend and banged teh shit out of her that night too, wizard 4 lyfe.

It's nowhere near as good as D2, but it's a damn fine game now.

>>382777558
this show is older than you

>>382777661
damn dude, THREE buttons? that's hardcore

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>>382777739
It's five, the one I don't use in tht webm is for debuffing.

>>382777874
wow

>>382767517
>copy a popular build, boom, you just won the game, everything is easy

Yeah good luck with that. Post your lvl 90+ hc season characters and 36 challenges, thanks.

Oh, right, you don't have any because you're one of those fucking retards who plays these games through the story, going through all acts once and then that's it.

>>382766803

poe's gimmick was that it was fun to autistically plan out builds, except they utterly gutted that part with balance changes and homogenization. any melee build has 90% of the same pathing as any other melee build if you want it to actually work, all crit casters look the exact same except for 10 points in whatever damage type you're using, etc

the actual gameplay is only fun between levels 68-90, before and after its just tedious with no real sense of progress

the engine is still horrifically bad, story started out interesting and turned into an awful clusterfuck, not to mention the trading system

still a little better than d3 though

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>>382778429
>mfw

>arguing about these type of games with /v/, a place so casual they couldn't even reach maps in hardcore PoE if they were paid to do so

lmao
/v/ is one of the MOST casual hives I know, even gamefaqs and leddit has far less casual shitters. Not even joking.

>>382778526
>still a little better than d3 though

>>382778663
D3 is completely worthless.
Horrendous seasons with nothing new, no good patches ever, completely dead hardcore community with no one bothering at all. Very little freedom in how to play your character, pick one of a few predetermined """"builds""""

>>382777095
>People don't seem to understand that this genre of game is meant to be a casual "play for 30 minutes and then stop" kind of game
absolutely not, it's not a fucking phone game

>>382777789
Grim Dawn was only fun for the first 2 playthroughs, but i really liked enviroment and dark atmosphere.

>>382778752
Same with PoE, except at least in D3 the gameplay is entertaining.

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>>382777661
>(((people)) think this good gameplay

god fucking isometric cucks

>>382778752
I imagine it's hard to make good patches when you have almost no competent people working on it. Blizzard not giving any fucks anymore doesn't help either.

>>382778910
>same with poe
what kind of moron are you?
that game not only gives you insane freedom in builds, it has an extremely active HC season community as well as fucking amazing patches with new content ALL THE FUCKING TIME

Jesus christ, how can you possibly be this retarded?
Legitimately kill yourself, please. Your idiocy is off the charts.

>>382778951
Onimusha is better

>>382779028
>insane freedom in builds
lol

>>382778951
Stop. These threads have enough shitposters when talking about arpgs, no need to inflate the number with soulsfags.

>>382766803
Cause the game is supposed to be fun for people with brains and people who still play d3 do not have brains

the problems with these games

Diablo 3
>has the best gameplay
>has no lasting appeal or appealing late game/itemization

Path of Exile
>has the best replayability/lasting appeal/late game
>your character always looks like shit unless you're willing to pay 40€ for an armor set with pants
>limited builds

Grim Dawn/TQ
>very good build freedom
>no replayability

>>382779484
Chill anon, if soulsfags were here this would've hit reply limit already

>>382779646
>diablo 3 doesn't have limited builds as a negative
>poe does
lmao

>>382766803
Path of Exile is free and /v/ is full of poorfags

>>382779646
>PoE doesn't have replayability as a negative
>GD/TQ do
wat

>>382779801
yeah because TQ/GD has no replayability whatsoever.

>>382779724
This

PoE is so much better than D3, it's not even a contest.
There is a reason every single known hc player in this genre is playing it now, even people who used to play diablo 24/7 like alkaizer

>>382779646
We just need some AAA company to copy D3 combat and make game around it with multiple build/classes, vast world and good late game.

>>382779646
>hit this normal enemy sponge for 30 minutes
>best gameplay
Sure thing

>>382767745
Quitlikingwhatidontlike.jpg

>>382768985
Keep spamming Clay Golem in his face to slow him down and Iron Maiden him so that he kills himself on it. Works even in the newest version of LoD, after all the reflect damage effects have been gutted. In other words, learn how to actually use the necromancer spells.

>>382779729
>Path of Exile is free
stop this meme

>>382779830
Why do you replay these games in the first place?

How is it that every ARPG thread, no matter which game it is about, gets filled with spastic autists who cannot fathom people playing any other game than the one they like? Are ARPG fanatics worse than console war children?

>>382780161
Seasons/Ladders/Rewards

>>382780210
Everytime.

>>382779646
D3
+ gameplay doesn't induce coma
+ interfaces and overall accessibility
- always online drm (ping doesn't affect gameplay though)
- shit campaign and writing that's a total joke compared to predecessors
- limited endgame builds

PoE
+ skill system is unique
+ always online drm (enjoy your desync deaths)
- shitty muddy graphics
- pretends to be deep but it's not
- limited endgame builds

GD
+ class system is fun
+ you can play offline wow
- godawful engine that drops frames when anything happens
- wet spaghetti animations
- limited endgame builds

the only reason people play PoE is because for whatever reason GGG managed to convince everyone that it's the Diablo 2 successor and hardcore as fuck so retards play it for e-cred and to feel superior

that game is pure shit if you look at it objectively

>>382778951
>dash around
>watch a cutscene

no thanks

>>382780317
>- always online drm (ping doesn't affect gameplay though)
>+ always online drm (enjoy your desync deaths)

You have these backwards. D3's desync is much worse than PoEs ever was and yes I played pre-lockstep.

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>>382780317
>D3
>+ gameplay doesn't induce coma
This is so true.
>PoE
>- pretends to be deep but it's not
mfw
>GD
>- limited endgame builds
The game can be finished on ultimate with pretty much any class combination and build, and bar a needlessly OP boss there is no endgame in the first place.

>>382780665
You are wrong, I can play D3 at 800 ping and everything will still be instantaneous.

>>382780317
>gameplay doesn't induce coma
it only makes you fall asleep every time you kill more than 2 normal mobs above noormal difficulty

>>382780782
What did you mean by this?

>>382780908
it means attacking the same enemy for 2 hours because the only way to make they make the game harder is to make enemies sponges is coma inducing you retarded shill

>>382781025
diablo 3 doesn't have difficulty settings, it has a manually applied rubberband/treadmill equation.

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>>382781025
>shill
DUDE NO

>>382781025
So just like every game in the genre?

>>382780317

>- shitty muddy graphics

I'll take PoE's Diablo 2 visual style anyday over Diablo 3's saturday morning cartoon aesthetic.

https://youtu.be/ljxcN9-BFlA

>>382781287
>PoE's Diablo 2 visual style
lmao

>>382781287
goddamn I wish PoE had as good music as D2 has

>>382767189
>NoX
eyyyyy lmao

>>382781368

It looks more like sequel to Diablo 2 than Diablo 3. Thats a fucking fact. Diablo 2 had muddy colors, blood and viscera and corpses hanging around every dungeon, it wasn't "WoW but with little bit more red and yellow in it".

>>382781287
>PoE's Diablo 2 visual style
kek
have you ever played diablo 2?
be honest

>>382781287
>Diablo 3's saturday morning cartoon aesthetic.
what?

Most ARPGs are pretty fun when playing them casually. When you start playing them seriously, the cracks start to appear and you're just grinding so you can grind faster. Moral of the story is that you can enjoy all these games a lot better probably if you don't thrust yourself in too deep.

That's part of why D3 has so much appeal. You don't have to worry about too much. Right from the get go you just start slayin' and bodies start flying. You barely have to plan at all and can change your build up on the fly. Once you get deeper, you realize there isn't a lot of build variety and you're just going to be grinding for that one or two sets of gear and that's pretty much it. PoE and GD have similar problems. Fun at first and then the cracks appear. Then you start hating it. Only difference is that PoE and GD require a lot more planning and investment so they have less appeal to the core audience.

>>382781647
except everything in d2 wasn't wet and ugly

>>382781660

Have you? Diablo 3 doesn't look Diablo enough which was the first fundamental problem the game had ever since screenshots of Beta was released.

>>382781748
>Moral of the story is that you can enjoy all these games a lot better probably if you don't thrust yourself in too deep.
Not really, it's the opposite in fact.

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>>382781757

But things in general were more "down to earth" and darker in tone than Diablo 3. Thats how Path of Exile looks more like Diablo than Diablo 3.

Those saying otherwise are WoW babbies who never touched Diablo 2.

>>382782037
the game looks ugly nigga how are you not getting it

>>382781792
Yeah, I have, but why are you changing the discussion? No one here is talking about Diablo 3.
You claimed PoE has the Diablo 2 visual style, which is false. Stop changing the subject.

>>382782186

But it still looks better than Diablo 3.

>>382782212

I said it looks more Diablo than Diablo 3. Implying Diablo 3 looks even less Diablo than Path of Exile.

And thats fucking pathetic for Diablo 3.

Can I even play Diablo 3 without playing 1 and 2, I tried to go back to 1 but it just felt so clunky at this point

>>382767834
>Lost Ark

The beta was so badly received because devs thought it would be nice to have an arpg be slow as fuck.

Will Grim Dawn ever get seasons?

>why the fuck isn't it nearly as fun
Because you're a mouthbreathing underage with no balls and a tiny cock who plays trash games because they're "fun" (see: endless grind)

I find it hard to play PoE because the game is ugly, all the characters are really boring to look at and they have no real uniqueness to any of them. Everyone can do everything and it's boring. I understand some can do stuff better than others, but that is just a numbers thing instead of everything having their own set of skills.

>>382782624
No. Crate Entertainment doesn't have the money for dedicated servers to host them.

>poe
>inventory full after killing 10 enemies
>ocd requires me to go back to town and sell everything
can't play poe
it breaks the rules

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>>382782974
Holy shit this.

>>382781432
>goddamn I wish PoE had as good music as D2 has

Have you ever play act 4 and labiryth?

>>382782624
Right now they are focused on the expansion, after that we'll see if they'll make changes to multiplayer.

>>382783257
it still doesn't measure up to matt uelmens stuff

>>382769070

>More mechanic depth
>ATTACKATTACKATTACKATTACK -> DASH
>Rinse and repeat

>>382783457
d2 only has one good song, he then went on to work on torchlight which has none.

>>382766803
/v/ lied to me. PoE isn't that good and D3 is just ok. Grim Dawn is where it's fucking at

>>382784017

I'm not going to defend the music in Torchlight, but you're a legitimate fucking retard if you think Diablo 2 only has one good song. At the very least, there's not a single bad song in act 1.

>>382784017
what the fuck are you talking about, the entire act 1 is a complete home run and there's tons of other good songs as well, like harem

>>382784017
>d2 only has one good song

>>382784191
There's no bad music, but it's all really bland. Only A1 has the one top tier song that's burned into everyone's hearts and minds. He did much better on diablo 1 imo.

>>382767834
>be Korea
>invest in GRAFFIX
>wait 10 years to release your game when it no longer looks good

Diablo 3 is the ARPG you go to when you don't want to make any choices or really think while playing.

If it can accept that role it's a fine game.

Can you guys post your late game Grim Dawn/PoE characters?

I wanna know which game has the best looking late game gear before deciding which one to dedicate the next few days to

>>382784368

It's also where you go when you want a fun game

>>382784918
Good one anon, I also have fun spamming at health sponges.

goddamn I hate diablo 3's art team so fucking much, there's literally zero interesting things to look at in the game world because everything created was viewed through the lens of their cliché ass artstyle

literally the gold mosaic wall texture from the place where you discover the not-a-cockroach slut is more interesting than anything from diablo 3. Yeah that's right, I said MOSAIC, I bet you fucking pop culture fed monkey slaves didn't even know those existed because you have only ever laid your eyes upon your disgusting inbred digital art shitfest that you call the blizzard "style" fuck it makes me angry, go paint some more ugly ass """"painterly"""" stone textures that look flatter than my brothers tits you retarded hacks

>>382785007
autism

>>382785134
autism can be a powerful force

>>382785007
the 2 new areas they added in 2.6.0 are actually really good, and reminiscent of diablo 1

>write blizzard a ticket
>one day later no response
what did they mean by this

>>382785007
Let's be honest, Blizzard has never released a game post D2 with a good art style.

>>382784368
>I'm playing ARPG to THINK while playing

It always amuses me that fans of one of the most braindead genres in gaming talk so much about thinking.

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>>382784918
>being braindead is fun

>>382784918
is that why it's player retention is so good?

>>382785357
>I play a simple genre so I should do my best to dumb it down as much as possible

D3 definitely suits your style of no thinking at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHMuqO4WuuI

Why were Diablo 3's cinematics so bad?

>>382785237
I can accept warcraft 3 looking like that, it fit the game and I had a lot of fun with it, but the art style has clearly turned cancerous and metastatized in the rest of the titles

>>382785730
They weren't, from the technical standpoint at least. The story was one of the worst ones I've seen in a game, and the cinematics were shit by being associated with it.

>>382781287
I hate this song so much

diablo 3 is designed so you could play it on an arcade machine

it is made to appeal to lots of people who don't necessarily like complicated RPGs

Post some diablo 3 screenshots then losers

>>382786463
diablo was never
1) complicated
2) an RPG

>>382786840
Diablo was never DnD tier autistic but objectively and undeniably it was more complicated in the first and second iteration than it is now.

>an RPG
you're retarded

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Every year all the game releases are for braindead morons who want to have """""""fun"""""" and then go back to normal life.

/v/ has to try and bully the 1 or 2 games a decade that come out that actually cater to hardcore.

Go back to souls games you fucking plebs.

>>382786998
>it was more complicated in the first and second iteration than it is now.
that's correct

>you're retarded
it's either
1) an RPG
2) a Role-Playing Game

>>382787072
>1) an RPG
>2) a Role-Playing Game
excuse me

>>382768668
Obsession with metrics is at least part of what is ruining d3
>Look x% of players quit the new season before getting the new set
>Let's start giving set parts for free

>>382787072
the inclusion of equiment and character stats is going to cement its place in every RPG category on every retailer and game catalog in the world

I don't understand what semantics argument you could have about it not being RPG but it probably doesn't matter.

>>382787206
>an arr pee gee
yes I believe that is correct.

>>382787285
an RPG usually involves options in how you approach situations to fit your character concept.
Diablo's only option is: go kill them

>>382787046
Do you wear a fedora and a shirt with something like
>I play games to suffer, fuck your fun

>>382787296
oh you thought he was referring to the use of "an"

I think he was questioning you saying that it wasn't an RPG.

I thought you meant RPG and Role-Playing Game were two different things.

>>382766803
I got this as a gift and never played it much, picked it up to try Necro, bone spear is completely broken and every other playstyle is boring as hell, what are some fun classes/builds? Don't care about sets and whatever to start just wanna finish a playthrough with something more exciting than bone spear spam

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Should I play Diablo 2 if I never have? Has it aged well?

I just wanna play through the story and i've heard it's incredible.

Can I torrent it? Or do I own it in some weird way if I have Diablo 3 (played like legit 5 hours on release)

>>382787519
>I thought you meant RPG and Role-Playing Game were two different things.
Nope. I don't know where you got that idea.

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>>382787384

No I play games to have a challenge. Video games used to have to be hard or they wouldn't make any money.

You grew up in the age where any college autist could take a shit and 1 million people would download it from the app store.

>>382787372
are you trying to argue about the difference between an RPG and ARPG as genres

this is /mu/ tier, one category is only more vague than the other

>>382787660
If you have collector's edition of vanilla d3 you should own it on battle net, otherwise I don't think so. It's still a good game to play through once or twice, aged really well compared to any other aRPG.

>>382787680
You sure? Contextless you say that it's either one of those, and it's not clear he was criticizing your use of "an"

Also why wasn't diablo an rpg? I thought it was an ARPG? that qualifies it as RPG

>>382767745
It made exploration completely trivial, and even though Nioh has GAMEPLAY the enemy variety and level design is so shit it becomes incredibly repetitive and boring, it was an okay game, I bought it day one and was disappointed, it's like a 6-7/10, to say nothing at all of D3

>>382787758
>PoE
>Challenge

No, you just hate yourself.

Challenge rifts are legit fun. Pushing the shit out of times, optimising every corner - fucking so good.

>>382787928

No, you just hate yourself.

>>382787758
Grinding for thousands of hours is not a challenge you mongloid. It just shows you like wasting your time.

>>382788431

No, you just hate yourself.

>>382787827
no I'm not
I was saying that Diablo isn't an RPG.

>why the fuck isn't it nearly as fun,
Because you're a complete pleb who doesn't consider actual gameplay mechanics to be part of gameplay. You're wowed by D3's decent animations and physics, which admittedly are decent, and ignore literally everything else about the game which is abysmal garbage.

>and why does everything look like shit?
Sure, it looks shit, the reason for it is a combination of the devs being indie and some intentional cutbacks to make it run on toasters. I don't know how you can honestly say that in comparison to D3, though, it looks miles better, and more importantly, more appropriate to the setting.

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>>382787758
>challenge in arpg

https://clips.twitch.
tv/SucculentClearAlmondEagleEye

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU ARGUE WITH EACH OTHER SO MUCH. THIS IS A GENRE THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO COMPETE WITH ITSELF. YOU CAN OWN ALL THESE GAMES CHEAP, PLAY ALL OF THEM TOGETHER EASILY, AND HAVE THEM COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER.

IT'S NOT FUCKING MMOS OR MOBAS OR CARD GAMES WHERE YOU NEED TO KEEP COMMITING TIME OR MONEY. OF ALL GENRES WHY WOULD YOU SPERG OVER THIS ONE AAAAAA.

>>382778951
>I don't know what isometric means

Poe is boring and easy as fuck, i try it some time ago and on my first run i literally obliterate every enemy without any effort. I get bored after a couple hours.

>>382791657
Aka every ARPG except Titan quest

>>382791757
TQ was literally best arpg after d2, and there was nothing like it after, GD just feels like some weakass TQ mod.

>>382792045
That's because they already used arguably the best setting on TQ and now they're trying to live up to an absolutely fantastic game without enough new ideas.

>>382790312
is that clip sped up?
i can't tell
what an absolute clusterfuck

>>382784185
You just listened to the wrong /v/

>>382767262
This.

>>382778429
how many you use in poe or in diablo 2?

>>382768668
What is Free to Play?

>>382784761
Until you get transmogrification in the expansion, GD gear on your character will look like rotten monkey ass 9/10 times, the other 1/10 being full sets.
Don't know about PoE but there are cosmetic mtx for a reason I guess.

ok fuckers, what would be the torment equivalent in diablo 3 to the max dificulty of diablo 2

I haven't played them but do you really hit that many buttons in Diablo 3 and PoE?

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I like diablo 3 because you can make your character look cool

>>382792045
>>382792152
TQ's only flaw is that it doesn't let you respec attributes and it's insanely easy to fuck up your character.

I like that things ragdoll and explode in D3. It makes the really boring combat a little more enjoyable.

>>382793134
Not if you play optimally.

>>382793256
Thankfully it's easy to character edit that if you fuck up really badly.

>>382793295
How? I thought you couldn't do it anymore in the anniversary edition?

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>>382793134
Me while playing PoE.

>>382793229
>OW
>cool

>>382793352
I've not actually tried with the anniversary one, but worst case scenario you can find the stat pointers in CE and modify them to redistribute within the games legal limits.

>>382793229
>bought $60 version of shit game to get mecha wings, that doesn't even fit D3's artstyle
That's anything but cool anon

>>382767834
i was so hyped from that first trailer, now i don't even want it

>>382779191
if you have the currency you can make almost any build work. Not everything is going to be a great boss killer but you can make a solid mapping character out of almost any skill/item with a bit of creativity

>>382766803
that's really what stopped me from getting into PoE, not really a great looking game (graphically or aesthetically) and the gameplay bored me to tears. I've had my fun with diablo 3 but I don't think the necromancer is worth it for 15 bucks, might just do a playthrough with one of the characters I already have

>>382767834

because i saw gameplay like four fucking years ago and nothing since

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>>382768237
>chat lobbys for trade

>>382780036
Can also be said for
>>382767191

>>382788079
>>382788592
autism

>>382786030
The cinematics in D3 were completely neutered as well. If you want a perfect comparison, just compare how the Wanderer's transformation is handled in D2 vs. whatever her name was in D3. It delineates the tonal shift that permeates the entirety of D3 to a tee.

>>382788431
Reliably beat Atziri with a build you at least partly come up with on your own, to say nothing of the actual endgame bosses, and then we'll talk about challenge. Halfwit mongoloids who copy some cookie cutter builds are the ones who play just to grind. I've played the game on and off since launch, and the furthest I've gotten is Uber Atziri.