Return of the Party Van, part 2

>>382765352
i am definitely interested but i am going to bed soon as it is 3am in the USA, how can i stay up to date on the status of this server? i would definitely be willing to play

Fixes:
>+use bind
>votemap glitch, disabling vanilla votemap and changing for rtv.

Requests:
>Grappling Hooks
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352549

>Third Person
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352557

>AFK autockick plugin
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352563

Please, discuss in this thread new ideas. Request maps and plugins, and if most of anons like them, it might be added to the server.

Server info:
IP: 85.152.52.132:27035
Password: vidya

It is currently offline until we get results in this thread, then we will open for a second test run.

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mega anon from yesterday here
i uploaded all 400 or so maps i've got downloaded to the folder
so if you cant find them on banana or whatever they might be there hopefully

https://mega.nz/#F!AkdRzIQB!ka9RVOUCYlvGS6nDY8vRmQ

>>382765647
I'll keep doing threads in /v/ until we have at least this server estable and finished. After that, we might have to move on on /vg/, as we can't keep constant threads or generals in here.

>>382766198
Thank you for your contribution.

Damn, thanks op. I wish I still had my old micspam folder from the old partyvan days

Oh, I forgot to mention some request I had listed somewhere else:

>Add map: Achievement_APG_R15
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352614

>Add saysounds
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352634

>Create a Steam group
http://www.strawpoll.me/13352639

>>382765352
This server sounds like something that could become my new home, any way to connect or is it still in development?

>>382766237
is the IP you posted expected to stay the same? i'll probably just add it to favorites and check from time to time if i don't see a thread

>>382767201
You've got to get in the console and type connect 85.152.52.132:27035; password vidya

Right now it's offline though, OP'll open it up later for another test run

>>382767206
It will always be the same, don't worry about it, a lot of you have asked this question yesterday

>>382767201
We are opening and closing for each thread I make for now, they are test runs until the server is stable and completely made.
There will be more than just one TF2 server, but first we have to end this one.

>>382767296
Alright, thanks for the info

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Please don't let this thread die, I want to hear your request and opinions.

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>airships

>>382767567
the server is kino and fun, kkep up the good work

>literally just pulled the trigger and uninstalled TF2 the other day after years of not being touched.

Gay af.

I'll be going to bed soon OP, but if the server is still up, or open again for testing tonight, I'll give it a shot. I'd like the option for regular maps, aside from meme ones though. Then again, this is Party Van so I don't think that's really a choice. I never played on that server, just Water's/Skillzero's.

>>382767748
About the regular maps, in the second strawpoll from the first thread: http://www.strawpoll.me/13344825/r you were the second biggest group of players who wanted that, so is quite probable that we might open a second server after this one for that, but first we have to end this one.

>>382768012
That'd be sweet to have a /v/ official game mode server again.

Also, Prophunt maybe?

OP if this becomes successful enough there's no reason not to at least have a steam group.

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>Someone voted really bad
That hurts, but thanks for voting anyways. If you are still in the thread please tell me why, so I can work to fix that.

>>382768087
It's pretty much confirmed that there will be more servers after this one, Sven-Coop is a must, but also Garry's Mod.

>>382768213
I left an strawpoll here >>382766965 for that.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=456107608
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=899335714
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=896196052

OP as a partyvan veteran I would say it was pretty good

>>382768546
Thanks, but please, if you see issues or you have any suggestions just tell us.

when will the server be up?

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>>382768312
I didn't get to play yesterday due to fastdl fucking up, hoping >>382766198
mega anons maps work instead

>>382768827
After we fix issues and take request from you, also waiting the tech to wake the fuck up. I estimate around an hour.

>>382768885
as long as you throw any maps from the mega into your tf\download\maps folder you should be all gucci my nigga

>>382768885
About the FastDL problem, the tech and some anon told me that it is a client-side error that happens when two people load the server at the same time. Sorry about that.

>>382769182
Ah, that would make sense with how packed the server was yesterday.

Bumping and lurking

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I know OP can't bump but come on, don't let this thread die, I want to improve the server before opening.

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holy fuck im going full nostalgia looking at my maps folder
team trial, bestinclass, bedrooms, iron, grid walls, whalerace, rickler engineer jump, rainbow, always
goddamn there's so many fucking good custom maps that i haven't played in years but i still remember them almost perfectly

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bump

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>server this early in the morning
dont think enough people will be awake yet

>>382770276
I dunno, maybe yuropeans could be interested in this.

Any plans on adding Valve/officialized community maps to the server?

>>382770478
After being the the second largest group of voting yesterday there might be a second server for competitive maps after this one.

>>382770478
Also on the matter of official maps, perhaps adding mannpower maps since grappling is enabled.

H- Hello? ;_;

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>>382771197
still here buddy

>>382771197
I'm occupied right now, but I'm up for jumping on soon.

alright hopefully you guys can keep the thread alive for a few hours cause i need at least a little bit of sleep
didnt realize that its 7:30 over here in burgerland

>>382771521
If the thread dies I'll make another, I can't belive shit's so dead after yesterday. If nobody contributes in this thread I'll open the server soon.

>>382765352
i want to play. what's the server?

>>382771609
It's not the best time of day really, I'll play later but it's midday in Europe and Americans are still asleep even

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>>382771197
Wat

>>382771609
I'm here but I don't have much to say other than I enjoyed it
Looking forward to the second test run

Now that there are some people from yesterday in here, what do you think about ping? I heard a lot of things, both it was fine and others said it was awful. If that's so we might have to change for a better server

>>382772174
It went great for me but I'm from Spain so

>>382772174
Wasn't obtrusive here on east-coast US.

>>382772174
Kinda sucked if I was ever getting sorta competitive, but it was just low 100s so it was kinda bearable.

>>382772440
>>382772273
>>382772208
There is some anon that offered me a better server, 1Gbps in the last thread. I'll stick with what we have for now, but if people complains a lot about it...

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How do I join this server?

>>382772868
For now just wait, we will fix stuff and accept request from you anons. Also thinking about changing server for a better one.

>>382770453
It's 10PM in Australia and I'm interested.

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>>382773067
Thanks for adding Rock2 OP, when you load up the server can you start on that? I disconnected last night to give people a chance to download harbl hotel, and I couldn't get back in to play it.

>>382765352
>maps
You'll need YAAARGH

OP here, we might have some important changes. Stay tuned

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>>382771508
Alright, interested Britbong reporting in.

>>382773381
Oh dear. I was about to remove that map along the others, but I guess it stays then, that would suck for you if that happens

>>382767610
>the server is kino
do you even know what 'kino' means?

>>382773665
cinema/movie in german/daniish/otherevopean languages

>>382765352
Looks pretty interesting, might join in for testing.

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>>382773656
Thanks man, even if you remove it if nobody likes it I'd love to experience it with /v/ at least once.

>>382765352
>Yet another LOLSOWACKY server with CUHRAAAAAAAAZY maps

I just want an sv_pure 0 server that plays TF2 normally with a couple of good custom maps thrown in.

I fucking miss playing Antiquity, Croissant, Glacier, Stonyridge and Upland.

>>382774051
You're in the minority unfortunately.
Antiquity just got an update, also.

>>382774051
http://antiquity.necrotalesgames.com/changes-antiquity-2011-to-2017-b15.php

>>382773745
glad you know, too bad the anon i replied to is a memeing fucktard that cant into words

>>382773656
What's your current map rotation looking like?

>>382774317
>>382774246
I can only hope this means they're trying to get it put in with the Jungle Update.

>>382774373
I'm thinking of an hour per map with a posibility of changing map by the players.

>>382774337
It's a meme, you dip

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>>382774337
but you replied to me twice you dumb nigger

>>382774471
*with rtv or !nominate vote

Is this actually happening

>>382774534
congrats thats exactly what i said

>>382774558
good job youre a memeing fucktard

How many bazillions of megabytes I need to download to get on server? That was always my problem with Party Van in the past.

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>>382774705
>im a memeing fuctard
>im not a memeing fucktard
>im now a memeing fucktard
LMAO

>>382774407
They have a strong fighting chance.

Here's some maps I'm excited for Valve adding in the Jungle Update.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=955701397 Ahau
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=468770640 Occult
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=736951789 Cabrakan
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454686689 Angkor
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=951657912 Banana Bay
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=851316292 Enclosure
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=922476326 Lazarus
>>382774471
Sounds excellent! What maps do you have chosen so far?

>>382774837
guess that makes you a double fucktard

>>382773412
>YAAARGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YimrJtLaSqo

oh god, I miss 2007~8

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rare

OP here, sorry for being out, We might upgrade the server very soon, I'm still working on it.

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>>382775408
meps

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??

>>382775327
had no clue that there was a custom quake-like mode, is this gonna be on the server?

>>382775578
>soldier counters nothing
was engie removed?

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>>382775690
It's for a specific community made total conversion mod called Team Fortress 2 Classic, which requires you to start from scratch. I highly doubt OP will be running it on his server.

http://tf2classic.com/

It's fun, but it's mostly dead now with only a tiny community mostly playing on Deathmatch servers.

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>>382775743
With his level 3 Sentry in front of him and a Dispenser nearby behind him, an Engineer can hold off a Soldier, in theory, forever.

The relationship changes when you utilise unlocks, of course.

>>382775578
Someone really wanted to make this infographic.

>>382775690
Not for now. The first server it will be a classic free for all, custom maps.

>>382775956
I mean, it's not really wrong.

>>382775846
tfw I hosted a tf2classic server for someone once and my serb was hit by the biggest ddos it's ever received

OP here, stand by, we might have good news soon.

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>>382776142
fixed

>>382775950
Got a video of that? I've never seen an engie repair a dispenser and a sentry at the same time.

can people still micspam? I haven't used HLDJ in years

>>382776319
this

Thank you the anon who dumps images for bumping the thread, you will have good news soon, especially for aussies.

>>382776414
Australia always wins baby!

>>382776319
Are you implying that class based games did not exist before?

>>382776427
No I'm implying that it's the only meme that exists today. find a single modern FPS that isn't based on classes or teams.

>>382776330
You don't need to repair the dispenser, because it's behind you and behind the Sentry. Sentries absorb splash damage from a given angle.

It depends on the angle and proximity to health/ammo packs on both sides, and how much time they get to set up, but Engineer can either hold off a Soldier forever, or else the Soldier runs him over after a few rockets.

You see, Soldier's Rocket Launcher damage is sustained. It can't do more than 90 damage to Engie's Sentry per Rocket. Soldier has 4 Rockets before reloading. And Engineer can heal 105 damage per Wrench swing.

So, Engineer's sustained healing matches Soldier's sustained damage.

Meanwhile, Demoman can throw eight stickies under a Sentry, and do 960 burst damage in one go.

This is why Demoman counters Engineer, and Soldier doesn't.
>>382776319
If you don't like class-based games get your ass out of the thread.

I'm saying that the game SHOULD be on an equal playing field, you moron. TF2's soft counter systems are not the same thing as scissors-paper-rock at all.

Alright, here's the news. We are upgrading the server for something way more better than the one you played yesterday, from 300mbps to 1gbps, all thanks for an anon who wanted to help us.

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>>382776414
No problem mate.
>>382776517
"REEE WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE THE THINGS THAT I DO"

>>382776517
So you vent your frustrations about modern games on one that's a decade old.

>>382776729
Good, when does said server go live?

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>>382776729
https://youtu.be/p0j0lO7uQBo?t=19
YES
YES

NEWS
First, dev and host fired, no more lags for americans and aussies and slow developments
Based anon is mounting the server as we speak, more news soon

>>382776654
Demo would be a hard counter, soldier is still a soft counter.

Dispenser metal regen is 60/5s while each swing of the wrench uses over 30 metal.

Engie can outsustain, but not for long.

>>382765352
are there plans for this to run 24/7 eventually? or only when threads are up? I don't really mind either way.

>>382776953
>each swing of the wrench uses over 30 metal
assuming he's repairing the sentry for 90 damage each time, also sentry ammo but thats almost insignificant

>>382776806
It might be soon. Anon is mounting and doing tests, but it's up to him.

>>382777015
Of course, but for now we are doing test runs based on threads announcements, when everything is stable and done, it will be 24-7.

>>382776953
>Demo would be a hard counter, soldier is still a soft counter.
You don't even understand the words you're using.

A hard counter is a strategy that completely shuts another one down with no chance of beating it.

Since Engineer can kill Demo with his Shotgun, Demo is NOT a hard counter to Engineer.

Demo is Engineer's soft counter. Soldier is not Engineer's counter at all.

>Engie can outsustain, but not for long
You're completely ignoring the factor of Rocket Launcher reloads (when Wrench never needs to reload), and the fact of Rocket Launcher running out of ammo and Soldier needing to go find more.

When Soldier has to run to an ammo box, Engineer can run to a metal box.

This means that, depending on map positioning, the Engineer can potentially hold off the Soldier forever.

HLDJ works there?

>>382777620
I think valve fucked up HLDJ with an update long ago, but yes, micspam is allowed in the server.

>>382777298
>ammo box/metal box
that's a very particular situation

in the time it takes soldier to fire all 20 rockets (36 seconds flat), the dispenser only regens seven times. that's enough metal to heal 14 rockets exactly and only 13 if the sentry ever fires a shot.

990 damage in favor of the soldier, he outsustains engie.

>>382777770
I remember you need to set one command to use old mic setting or something.

>>382777819
sorry, all 24 rockets*

>>382765352
you need to add weegee

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>>382777298
>You don't even understand the words you're using.
>A hard counter is a strategy that completely shuts another one down with no chance of beating it.
thats not true, but its a very nebulous term anyway

>>382777893
Don't worry about it, that command set since the start, yesterday some anons micspammed music.

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>>382776729

I have a repository of sounds saved from what I believe was the counter strike 4chan party van server. I think it's mostly the same as the repository that was on the tf2 server, should I upload it?

>>382778684
why not?

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>>382777819
>that's a very particular situation
It really isn't though. Engineers commonly set up near Metal sources. As some examples: Badwater first near the full ammo box or medium hp and medium ammo box. Dustbowl stage 2 point C right near the medium ammo box. Upward point 1 with a medium ammo box upstairs.

So in conclusion it's common for Engineers to set themselves up near ammo sources, and with a good enough setup, they can become totally irremovable by a Soldier, but still easily removed by a Demo.

>in the time it takes soldier to fire all 20 rockets (36 seconds flat), the dispenser only regens seven times. that's enough metal to heal 14 rockets exactly
You're forgetting:
>Engineer's innate 200 Metal reserve which he starts with, in addition to a first-off full Dispenser holding 400 Metal. That's 600 Metal right off the bat to turtle with
>reload times on the Rocket Launcher
It takes the Rocket Launcher 3.68 seconds to reload a full clip.

And let's even say that the Engineer is in a situation with no Metal boxes and Soldier can outsustain him. That's still not the same thing as countering.

A soft counter is a class who holds a strong advantage over another, like Demo's high burst damage against stationary targets versus Engineer's sustain-focused stationary aimbots. Soldier holds no strong advantage over Engineer, whether he wins or is forced to turtle forever is entirely dependent on Engineer's access to Metal sources.

>>382778684
Sorry I was out.
Sure, I will add saysounds.

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sorry I stopped bumping, was arguing and taking a shit

>>382778882
>first-off full Dispenser holding 400 Metal
completely disregarded that lmoa, yeah u right engie outsustains no contest

>A soft counter is a class who holds a strong advantage over another,
according to you.

>>382778814
>>382779051
Here we are, windows says there's some 597 sounds here, most ranging from 06-08. I downloaded this from some other site, who downloaded it from the server, so it's probably a little outdated. Use for micspam purposes only.
https://mega.nz/#!sY0gHAra!tyYyHQkH-jKqU2L0bbq7EDMjT-FagKTGqV8Vtzf_e-k

>>382779146
Don't worry, until based anon returns we can't do anything, this thread can die, I'll make another when it's ready. We are starting from the scratch.

>>382779447
Thank you, I'll take a look.

>>382779175
>according to you.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hard%20counter
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Hard_Counter#Trivia
and the image in >>382778016 is very close to that definition if not exactly aligning.

I think it's pretty much a waste of time arguing semantics.

Hard counter as "one strategy totally dominates another" and Soft counter as "one strategy has an advantage over another, but can lose" are the most common definitions I've seen.

Arguing what words mean isn't going to get us anywhere. The meaning of words is entirely contingent on how the majority of people use them.

To me it looks like the definition from my sources makes a lot more sense anyway, by making the distinction between "guaranteed to beat" and "not guaranteed to beat".

Alright, OP will be out for an hour at least, this thread can die peacefully. I'll make a new thread when everything is ready, around two hours.

I'm sorry about the waiting, we are starting from scratch since we upgraded the server, and for now, our tech is out.
Thank you and see you soon

>>382779051
Hey OP, can we suggest some maps? What are the criteria?

>>382779767
oh are you kidding, no way I asked literally 9 seconds too late right?

>>382779780
You can suggest maps any time, other anons will tell you if they like them or not.
Since its a "free for all" server, I recommend that the map be something like mariokart, and others "free roam" maps, but it's a recommendation

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>>382779767
You're the best OP and server anon.

>>382779917
>>382779869
Still, we have maps like balloon race or wacky races, you know, "event" type of maps. Everything fun is welcome.
But you can suggest any kind of map, even competitives.

>>382779917
I made a pretty damn big map ages ago but the spawns are grouped per teams.

dm_SDM_FINAL
https://pastebin.com/PV4aVUXj

>>382779597
>urbandictionary
>a wiki page
yes its stupid to waste time on semantics

but you still think a hard counter is 'guaranteed to beat' which simply is not the case.

I still have a bunch of old maps in my tf folder, apparantly I never deleted them.
I might upload them to a mega and let you guys have a look, see if anything's worth grabbing.

>>382780148
>but you still think a hard counter is 'guaranteed to beat' which simply is not the case
Well why not? Based on what information?

It's all fine and well to disparage urbandictionary and a wiki page but I'm yet to see your sources, or even your definition, for what a hard counter and a soft counter is.

The way I learned it, hard counter means guaranteed to beat, thus describing why infantry can't damage tanks in Command and Conquer, or why Scissors beats Paper.

It's the perfect description for the situation.

>>382766237
>move on on /vg/
dont do this.
instead, make stealth threads when janny is off fetching more hot pockets to lure in more anons when the player count goes low

So no server tonight, OP?
>>382780752
I don't see why janitors would delete this thread in particular out of all the things on /v/.

ah shit, I thought the server would be up, couldn't connect yesterday but not sure if that was because the server was closed at that point

>>382781506
generals are against the rules, if this TF2 server thread becomes a recurring thread, janitors will get furious and it will have to be deleted.

>>382781712
My interpretation of >>382779767 is that the server will be up in about 1.5 hours

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>>382781950
Ah nice. I might just leave this thread to die in peace then and I'll search the catalog in the next 2 hours

>>382781950
>generals are against the rules
explain how the /v/ermin threads get away with it then. Could always make this a once or twice a week thing

>>382784320
maybe janitors like the vermin threads?
I don't know, I found the concept stupid from the first vermin thread I saw and have hidden it without a second thought every time it appears

>>382783095
Using mods, you can get old menu with old backgrounds back, as well as more detailed weapons view models from original release.

server when?

>>382786639
around 20 minutes according to >>382779767

>>382786639
soon

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>>382785398
This mod is pretty much mandatory for everyone who complained about graphical downgrade this week.

http://gamebanana.com/skins/155608

>haven't finished downloading >>382766198 yet
PANIC

B

>>382789112
F