How did HAL get away with making the Same Kirby game FOUR times?

Because people bought it.

Kirby has been the same for over 25 years. It's just that the art style has been perfected.

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>they use the same engine so they're the same game!!1!
Literally what

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Because the formula works perfectly. Why change what isn't broken?

>>382729725
It's literally the same argument used by everyone against call of duty

>>382729614
Because they're fun.

The only Kirby Platformers that have been different were DL2 and DL3. Every other game plays and handles almost identically.

I have no idea why you're surprised.

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>>382729716
It's been the same since Sakurai left
but if by same you mean "same" then yeah sure 64 and Superstar are the same game

>>382729965
>The only Kirby Platformers that have been different were DL2 and DL3.
Amazing Mirror? (Engine-wise, it was NiDL, but structurally, if was different).

>>382729895
>defending cod

>>382729965
64 and arguably Super Star are also different from most of the mainline games.

>>382729614
good soundtracks

more resources go into games than 20 years ago and with diminishing returns. if it's not broke why fix it?

>>382730086
I'm not defending cod, I'm saying his post is an example of "it's okay when nintendo does it"

Planet Robobot is drastically different from Triple Deluxe

Ironically enough its the best 3DS kirby game and the best kirby game off all time beating super star

>>382730081
I... guess?

I mean it was structured differently, but ultimately the "levels" played very similarly to NiDL. It was mostly hallways with enemies, and occasional instances of "use very obvious power in this very obvious spot" like most of the other games.

I legit can't wait to get this game and play 4 player with friends. What the fuck has been going on recently with all the anti Kirby threads over the past few days?

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Yes, I too would like to know

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FULL
3D
KIRBY
WHEN


THE MINIGAME DOESN'T COUNT

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>>382729614
All of them were fun games. I wonder why people only started bitching about Kirby once a game was announced for the Switch.

Fantasy platformers have a much easier time releasing glorified level packs than many other genres. Robobot is practically Triple Delixe DLC, but few people care because they're good levels in a solid engine.
Full disclosure though, even I think that robobot is egregious with its reuse of past content. The second boss is literally holographic clones of a few TD bosses and a Dreamland 3 boss.

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>>382730350
It already exists, my dude.

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Gee i dunno, how did Rare get away with it?

>>382730426
Kirby Air Ride is fun but i want a full 3d mainline Kirby game.

>>382730401
But people were also complaining when Robobot came out

>>382730168
>64
Not particularly. If you go back and play it, the only real difference between it and the Kumazaki games were just that it was slower paced and combos were replaced with movesets. Level structure, collectibles, and bosses are all basically prototypes for Return to Dreamland and beyond.

>Super Star
That's fair, but it's much more of a conglomeration of platforming mini-games than it is a straight up Kirby Platformer by itself.

>>382730350
Blowout Blast is a full game now

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>Platformer
>Swallow enemies for abilities
>Boss battles
All mainline Kirby games do this.

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>>382730350
They've experimented with the idea before

>>382730417
I think the Kirby series usually has a balance between reused assets and new content. Compare this to the New Super Mario Bros series, which is more criticized.

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>>382730417
Ado and Adeleine did the same thing, and nobody complained. That's why Ice Dragon is there.

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>>382730484

They didn't?

>>382730726
You're right. This was the worst one.

>"UGH COD IS SO SHIT THEY MAKE THE SAME GAME EVERY YEAR!"
>plays kirby
lal

>>382730726
>million seller
they did, financially
just not critically

>>382729725
The first three basically are, though? They have different Bullshit OP Ability sections, varying between Ultra abilities, Hypernova, and the Robot sections (with the latter being the best and honestly the only good one of the three), but they look and play in an almost identical manner barring a few minor changes in ability/enemy variety.
Compare Amazing Mirror, Squeak Squad, and Nightmare in Dream Land, which at least feel like different games despite looking practically identical.

Not going to judge the Switch version yet since it could be pretty different depending on how they approach it.

>>382729874
>it can not be improved, leave it the same
So why make a new game?

>>382729987
It's okay when Nintendo does it.

>>382730264
Not really. It was a metroidvania, and very non-linear at that. Platforming was incorporated into the puzzles.

>>382730698
someone edit that mirror onto the inside of a noose

>>382730823
Only difference is Kirby games are good.

>>382730663
That doesn't look full 3D, looks more isometric. Full 3D means real environments and a non-static camera.

>>382730795
Exactly. They did one, improved drastically with two, and after three came out to middling sales and reviews, the series was basically forsaken for 20 years.

It's nothing like Kirby, where they're going hard on remaking the same game 4 times with no signs of stopping, with no issues regarding sales or reviews.

>new Zelda
>new Mario
>new Pokemon
>new Kirby
>new Metroid
It's the Animal Crossing fags, isn't it?

>>382729874
But it is broken, Kirby as a vidya experience is bland as fuck.

>>382730552
I only remember everyone going crazy with excitement over Kirby piloting a mech, and rightfully so.

>>382730912
What puzzles?

And "non-linear" my ass. There were basically 3 instances of backtracking that were needed if you weren't a dunce, and it was upped to 5 times if you were.

>>382730913
That's what the image is a parody of, you fool.

>>382729614
They used to do this rehashing in the past too.

NiD, Amzing Mirror and Squeak Squad were all basically made on the same engine.

>>382730989
Did Retro get away with making the same game three times and then again 2 times?

>>382731006
Kirby is a game meant for casual players and newbies.

It just so happens that we enjoy it as well. If you're going into the Kirby series expecting a ton of depth or new mechanics, I've got bad news for you.

>>382731095
Cannons, etc.

And it was very non-linear. You could pratically go anywhere once you beat the first boss or two IIRC. Felt like more freedom than Castlevanias, Metroids, and even Hollow Knight.

>>382731140
Metroid Prime 3 definitely shook up the mechanics compared to the other two. The motion control, going to other planets, including voice acting.

You can say it wasn't for the best, but Prime 3 certainly was different.

>>382730350
see these retards drinking everything Hal throws at them because is decent enough? why should they bother making a 3D game and change plattaform gamimg forever when you can keep getting money for updates?

its better just move on, play the games if you want, but just understand that kirby is a zombie now.

robobot was cool though.

>>382731095
Well, you had to find the map, the boss and whatever alternate goals (though only the bosses are mandatory.
Olive Ocean took me a bit because I found the boss, but not the map.

>>382731140
Metroid Prime 3 is pretty different from the first two, which is actually a significant point of contention with the game.
Prime 2 is very similar to Prime 1, down to having reskinned weapons and almost the same flaws, but the environments are totally different and the subtle changes made between games skew 2 a lot more toward survival than 1.

>>382731302
Point still stands that the Donkey Kong Returns games are basically more of the same but no one cares because they're good games. Same with Kirby.

They should stop making level packs in this engine and just release Kirby Maker already. It worked for Mario and the only reason they haven't done it here is because these still sell.

>>382731140
No?

It made Metroid Prime, then did it again to everyone's slight disdain, then did it AGAIN and everyone recognized it was way worse than before and the series essentially got canned.

It did Donkey Kong Country Returns (which is similar but definitely not identical to Donkey Kong Country), and then DKC2TF, which only counts as remaking the game once. They might be on the road to milking the series and getting away with it, but seeing as they've only done it once we won't know until far into the future.

Neither of these are like Kirby, where they've remade Return to Dreamland not once but twice, and are doing it again to nothing but fucking fanfare every time.

>>382730878
For more content of the same thing?

>>382731518
There's been two DKCR games.

There's currently 3 of the new style Kirby games, and another one on the way.

At a certain point, quantity does make a difference.

In all serious, HAL probably doesn't want to risk screwing up the formula. Generally, 2D gameplay is hard to translate to 3D (Sonic, Mega Man X, etc) and Mario pretty much overhauled the gameplay system entirely until 3D Land/World (and that game is somewhat diverse reception-wise), so they probably want to stick with what works and leave more "out there" ideas for sub-games and spinoffs.

Pokemon does this waaaaaaaay worse than Kirby, and I played the last installment of both.

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>>382731627
>more content
want me to know how i know you own every nintendo console?

>/v/ is upset that Kirby has 4 samey games
>meanwhile they praise Pokemon

>>382731942
Do they?

>>382731735
Kirby Return to dreamland came out in 2011. It'll have been 7 years when the Switch game comes out. 2 console games and 2 handheld games that play similar to each other in 7 years is hardly problematic.

I mean, if you want to shake things up there's a plethora of Kirby spin offs that offer different gameplay styles.

>>382731795
Heavily disagree. Even the way it looks is different, and you have all kinds of more content and options available.

The core gameplay is the same, but on the surface and the experience are much different from game to game than Kirby.

>>382731861
the fuck did you say?

>>382729614

Kirby has always been like this and what you should be complaining about is Pokemon which does the same and makes far more money.

>>382732075
Oh I don't really mind it, the games are fun and all.

But it's not really comparable to the Prime series or DCK:R. It's much more comparable to stuff like Pokemon or COD, just that Kirby comes out with less frequency.

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>>382729614
The other thread just died a few hours ago right? You're making more threads about this than the fans.

>>382732095
Maybe competitively if you actually give a shit about EVs and IVS but it's all the same thing. Beat the gyms, fight the elite four, endure a haphazardly put together story. Even the "trials" in Sun and Moon were just worse versions of gyms for all the hype about "shaking up the formula", it was the most linear and streamlined version yet.

>>382731861
>want me to know how I know
You ok pal?

Anybody try out that free Kirby game on the 3ds?

>>382732095
>The core gameplay is still the same

That's an understatement

>The core gameplay hasn't budged a fucking INCH since Gen 3.

That's more accurate.

>>382729874
>implying the Kirby formula didn't peak with Amazing Mirror
I wish they'd try that again.

>>382731003
Last F-zero hardcore fan died yesterday.

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>>382729614
Problem ? human

>>382731861
>me to know
>how I know
>you know me
>want me you i do

Think I anon retarded is

>>382730878
there are more potential levels in a platformer engine than stars in the galaxy

>>382732770
I really don't think you know just how many stars are out there.

>>382732770
The last Kirby game with good level design and satisfying enemies was Super Star

>>382732840
I really don't think you know how many things you can do with a platformer
>>382732869
You're not wrong

>>382732840
It's obviously an exaggeration you neanderthal.

>>382732354
But Kirby is even worse if you simplify it like that.
>beat the level, suck the enemies, beat the boss, end
>but it's good becuase muh opinions

You want to be specific and talk about level design and game-by-game features? Then do it for pokemon as well.

>>382732463
Physical/Special split... fuck, just read this.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_4#Advances_in_gameplay
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_V#Advances_in_gameplay
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_VI#Advances_in_gameplay
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Generation_VII#Advances_in_gameplay
>inb4 cherry picking
>inb4 ifs, ands, ors, & buts

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>>382732869
>Last good kirby level design
>Super star

You can go fuck yourself with a moldy piece of garlic bread

>>382733049
You realize that's irrelevant to what we're talking about

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>https://youtube.com/watch?v=3N9bzEwcz_Y

Is Blowout Blast on the freeshop?

>>382733174
Related: Vector Hunter knows who the bonus boss of Blowout Blast is.

>>382733021

It's basically been fuck all.

Gen 3 > 4 had the Physical / Special Split, which amounted to different attacks using slightly different stats. Compared to Gen 2's items and special split (changing entire roles of pokemon) or Gen 3's Abilities and double battles, it means fucking nothing.

Gen 4 > 5 had fucking Rotation battles, where were actually hot shit and really changed up the core battle mechanics, but they got dropped like a hot fucking potato.

Gen 5 > 6 had Megas, which changed very little as it's essentially the same as just being allowed to carry in one OP pokemon per match.

Gen 6 > 7 had the Z-Moves, which helped just barely but actually have even less of an effect on the game than Megas did.

Pokemon has been stagnant since Gen 3, and some even argue since Gen 2. Even fucking Mario changes it up more often.

Antinintendo salt fags attacking Kirby of all things now.
oh I laughn
Pretending you have a legitimate opinion on games you've never played won't work for the Kirby "literally no bad games" series.

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>>382732869
>Satisfying enemies

I'd actually say that regular enemies haven't really been satisfying since Dream Land 2, though you'd be correct if you meant bosses.

>Good level design
Dream Land 3 beats Super Star handily in the level design department

>>382730257
mah nigga

>>382734080
Dreamland 3 had some good shit. Just a shame I hate having to ride that fatass beaver or kine just to have more than 1 power.

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this is now a mirror thread

>>382734080
I forgot that one came out after Super Star. Not as strong as Dream Land 2 but definitely some fun levels and some of the best implementation of common enemies.

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>>382734007
>Antinintendo

>You have to be antinintendo to criticize a game published by nintendo

>>382733021
In pokemon the most they've done with level/enemy design is
>here is a new type combination, find out its weakness
>here is a fast ice type, there's only really one of them so you might not know how to deal with it maybe
>this one has a gimmicky ability, beat it
>the level is this long and has this many mandatory encounters, see if you can endure it
>this cave is coated in ice and you can only move by sliding
You can do more to make RPG gameplay interesting and different from a prequel, it's just that Pokemon hasn't, outside of certain game-wide gimmicks like digivolving.
You can look to many other RPG franchises and see that spell costs, attack elements, recruitment methods, party members, and even entire battle systems can change between installments, and this rarely comes at the cost of being untrue to the series' core.

The sad part though is that it wouldn't be impossible to make new pokemon games actually change shit up, and the gamecube games are the best proof of this because the only things left from RSE in those games are absolute fundamentals.
The battles are all doubles, you can only catch by snagging from certain enemy trainers, and progression has nothing to do with gyms or a pokemon league. It's what every Pokemon sequel should be.

>>382730981
3D means you can move up, down, left, and right independently, you autist. It has nothing to do with the camera.

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>>382734363
get it

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sequel when?

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>>382734007
This is the chemo that Kirby on /v/ needs.

>>382734007
>Kirby "literally no bad games" series
Nintendo has exactly one series without any bad games
It's Pikmin

>>382731861
>Implying that paying someone for more of a thing you like is a bad thing

>>382734514
And the term "full 3D" does.

Because kirby fags are the bronys of video games

>>382730257
>Planet Robobot is drastically different from Triple Deluxe

It's not?

It's still the same Corridor level design that Kazumaki's so fond of. It's still the same collectible hunt that focuses more on wall hugging than puzzles. Music and Art Style are practically identical. Even the way the Robobot Sections are interspersed between the levels is done the same as the Nova Suck sections, it's just that the Robobot sections are way better.

It's practically the same game with a new coat of paint and a bit of buffing out of a few rough parts, it's not drastically different at all.

Kirby's Adventure, Kirby Super Star, and Kirby Dream Land 3 are all drastically different platforming games.

Triple Deluxe and Robobot are basically just upgraded versions of Adventure.

>>382734558
punchout?
wario games?

>>382734678
>not pokefags
Pokefags even got their own board, just like bronies

>>382734385
Oh I'm sorry anon. I didn't realize you actually thought people couldn't see through empty criticisms and would be buttblasted when somebody expressed that they aren't buying it.
My bad sweetie.

>>382734726
>Punchout
forgot, but you're right
>Wario
Master of Disguise
Ware Snapped

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>>382733538
A big disappointment.

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>>382734814
>using sweetie or honey to imply that you are not upset but instead the more mature person winning the argument

>>382729614
I don't care, I'm enjoying them.

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>>382729614
How did insomniac get away with making the same game FOUR times?
everyone does this

>>382734540
My nigga.

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Why did all the shitposters come out of the woodworks when Kirby got announced for the Switch?

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SHUT UP EVERYONE

What's the best Kirby track?

>>382734726
If you want to be technical, what about Power Punch II?

>>382734992
He said it was something different (I think).

>>382734885
I liked ww snapped, I liked how it put you into a comic after you did a series by secretly taking your photo while you played. That alone made me keep showing it to others for hilarity.

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I'm just here to say that I hope each and every one of you dies a slow and painful death. Thanks for ruining Kirby threads, one of the last few good threads on /v/.

>>382735071
Fuck, where can I buy this? I need it in my life.

>>382735074
gourmet race

>>382735124
I never played it, I just assumed you can't make a very good game out of a low-res phone camera.
I also just wanted to mention A ware game but none of the others were easy targets

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>>382734558

Hey!Pikmin

>>382735228
Japan.

>>382734636
There's lots of 2D games that can simulate 3D movement though. Like Wizardry or Super Mario Kart.

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>>382735089
I got the "All Stages Clear" message and an alternate credits. Unless you need to gold/platinum everything.

>>382735046
They didn't?

Ratchet and Clank 1 is a platformer first and shooter second.

2 and 3 basically changed into a shooter, and with all the focus they put on it they made it significantly better.

And 4 was a fucking arena shooter.

Sure other series do that kind of shit, but Ratchet and Clank aren't one of them.

>>382734080
>Dream Land 3 beats Super Star handily in the level design department
I'm not really convinced, but I'd be lying if I said I was invested enough in either to argue heavily about it.

>>382735074
A lot of music from Rainbow Curse
https://youtu.be/3WH0rDD48j0
https://youtu.be/w1F_P8qLewA
https://youtu.be/lS6DUMhAfHg
https://youtu.be/VENAGrttsRE

>>382735375
Ah, I might have mistaken the songs in the final track for what the boss was. Nevermind

>>382735331
Technically it's not out yet and theoretically there's still a chance it might be cancelled.

So at least for a month I can say Pikmin has no bad games.

Nintendo consumers

>>382735331
Can never be too sure until it's out
Breath of the Wild had every sign of a bad game but people mostly like it.

>>382735375
Why is Dedede wearing purple

>>382735071
Maybe it's the fact that the series is having a revival after that (relatively) dead period before Return to Dreamland. Now that Kirby is a title getting billed a slot in Nintendo's main E3 presentation it gets the shitposting that other frontrunning nintendo titles get, except nobody can really sustain it because it's still relatively niche.

>>382735541
>Can never be too sure until it's out
...oh...
...anon...
...you poor thing

>>382735541
>every sign of a bad game
I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. From what I remember, the only possible indicator that it was bad is that all we got for a while was a CG trailer, but it looked good and the hands on at E3 had positive reactions.

>>382735389
2 and 3 are pretty damn similar, and Deadlocked really just took some bits out of them and pulled it into a full game. It's all the same iterative, derivative stuff that you'd see in most of these kinds of things. They had to pump out these sequels lightning fast, too.

>>382735071
To be honest a lot of people have been trying to downplay critically acclaimed switch related anything lately.
With the switch being a massive upset to the market that's causing competitors to reel... yeah its just shills.
Most abnormal behavior that comes out of no where but seams to automatically start trending will be shills. Don't pretend like they don't exist.

Kirby RPG when?

>>382735541
>Breath of the Wild had every sign of a bad game
I never played it, because it's on my backlog, but from what I've seen before release no it did not look bad at all.

>>382735587
Probably meant to hint at Masked Dedede
That's the same color scheme he had when Taranza possessed him in Triple Deluxe

>>382735587
It's the dedede's revenge version. All the bosses have different colors in their revenge versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHwqL1om6RU

Why the fuck can't Nintendo transition Kirby to full 3D like Mario? I feel like Kirby games has yet to reach full potential. 3D Kirby games could go places, my man. Maybe even AAA gaming.

>>382735712
So at most they remade 2 twice, except deadlocked is definitely different enough to not be able to be confused with 2 or 3 at a glance.

So they remade 2. Once.

>>382733823
>>382734438
So more changes than Kirby has had?

>>382729614
Who the fuck cares? They're fun.

>>382735843
>>382731776

>>382735541
>Can never be too sure until it's out

Yes we fucking CAN be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGTVVLmxBI

This shit looks worse than Yoshi's New Island.

I mean, fuck, the movement is so fucking boring and bland that you could even guess Arzest was working on it before knowing anything else about it. That's how terrible it is.

>>382735656
What seems to be the problem?
I only saw the very first showing of the game, if they showed more since and it looks bad then I concede
>>382735694
>open world
>we're returning to the series roots
>we're trying to reach a broader audience
>multiple delays
>20 dollar season pass
If you actually got Zelda at launch I'm not sure if I should pity your inability to recognize patterns or envy your chance to play a good game earlier than most people.

This is one thing I do appreciate about nintendo. Generally their core IPs change so little that I can always buy them and know the level of quality I can expect from them.

I could buy any Pokemon, Kirby, or Fire Emblem game I want and pretty much know I'll enjoy it before I even open the box. And that's nice. I wish I could say the same for Mario but he's been jewed too much with new super mario bros shit.

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Just finished my first Kirby game and it was fun, gonna get Triple Deluxe
What does the rest of /v/ think of it?

>>382734678
That's Dark Souls fags, as jojo is ponyshit of anime.

>>382735856
I didn't say Kirby's changed at all since Kumazaki got on board.

I'm just calling out a faggot who think's Pokemon's ACTUALLY updated it's main series formula anytime in the last decade.

>>382736083
It'll be a bit hard to play since the Robobot is better than the Hypernova ability.
On the other hand, the villain of the game is pretty great.

>>382735987
>Open world is always bad meme
no
>Returning to the series's roots
For zelda, that's a good thing
>We're trying to reach a broader audience
I never heard anyone say that
>Multiple delays
I agree with that one
>20 dollar season pass
I didn't buy it until I was sure I was satisfied with the base game.
Bought the game at launch, had a blast.

>>382736083
I think they're both good
playing them in rapid succession is a great way to burn yourself out on it

>>382735587
It's the Extra mode version where they change the bosses colors.

>>382736083
Triple Deluxe is pretty good

>>382729614
It's what people wanted

>>382735834
Oh that's cool. Does it make all the enemies into different, looking harder enemies like the first game?

>>382736204
My whole argument is against
>>382731795

Pokemon has not done it worse than Kirby, and has changed. And of course, cherry picking and "but"s followed.

>>382736297
No I wanted GCN.

>>382736083
That ending was extremely hype in and of itself, but it does draw on series history, so I suggest you emulate Kirby Super Star or Super Star Ultra, its remake. That game is generally regarded as one of the best games of the series anyway, so you don't want to miss out.
Personally I felt Robobot was the best game of the recent mainline releases, and if Kirby on Switch is in fact running on a new engine, it works as a great sendoff of this engine.

>>382736215
>>Open world is always bad meme
It's a meme because it's often true
>For zelda, that's a good thing
It'd usually be a good thing for most companies that say this, it's an anomaly that Nintendo saw what to keep and what not to keep.
>broader audience
Implied heavily by the change in formula and its status as a launch title. Will admit that was my weakest point

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>>382730878
I like how you think, anon! Look forward to my latest and greatest Kirby sensation: Kirby's Epic Stickers! Abilities are removed and you have to blow into the mic to inhale an enemy. You need at least one sticker whenever you want to inhale something.

Hey, you wanted change, not me!

>>382735854
Except that 2 is far more of an iteration over 1 than it is a reinventing of the wheel. 3 just iterated further enough that it wasn't recognizable, never minding the fact that these games borrow environments from one another outright.

I can't speak at length about Tools because I thought it was obnoxiously boring and put it down after a couple hours, but what I played of it made it feel like a R&C game with shiny graphics, half its soul sucked out, and an upgrade system slapped on for good measure. Then came Q4B, which was basically a mini ToD that held up its runtime better, and then a fair bit later, ITN would, if I recall, repeat that upgrade system that Tools had. Crack in Time was the one game that really took a major step toward something fresh, with open space travel, jet boot traversal, and puzzle sections that were actually worth a shit.

When it comes to the quality of these games, I am aware that's purely opinion, but there's no denying that these sequels are insanely focused on being iterative.

>>382736703
Yes ruining a series is worse than rehashing it into mush. You don't have an argument though.

>>382736428
I would argue that neither has budged a fucking inch for the past 4 main series games.

Don't get me wrong, Kirby's stale as fuck, but you don't get to parade "POKEMON'S EVOLVED" when Ruby's Remake is practically fucking identical in every way to it's original game (unlike Soul Silver).

Cause there is one two things right in this world
Jesus and Kirby

>>382736207
>>382736290
Alright, sounds good. A decent villain is always nice. Star Dream and pres Haltmann were ok but nothing special
>>382736230
Eh, I found Robobot short so I wouldn't mind playing another one
>>382736448
>Kirby Super Star or Super Star Ultra, its remake
Got it, thanks anon

>>382731861
>want me to know how i know

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>>382732127
>>382732376
>>382732549
He said nothing wrong you dyslexic faggots.

>>382736882
Well duh, noone is going to debate that. That's one of the things wrong with it and why people fear for DPPt remakes.

>>382729614

Every Kirby game between Super Star and Triple Deluse had horrendous gameplay mechanics. Multiple attacks per power is true Kirby gameplay.

>>382737186
But Squeak Squad and Return to Dream Land had that.

>>382737186
>between Super Star and Triple Deluse
What's wrong with RTDL?

>>382737314
Nothing, it's pretty good.

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>>382736334
The bosses get new moves as seen in the video, waddle dees are purple, and there's also lanzer bugs that are just reskinned waddle dees.

>>382736448
I hope they don't try to "outdo" Robobot for Switch but at the same time don't make it too simple like Blowout Blast. Maybe just something that does Kirby justice and gives them some original new material for the next game to use. No shoving in Doomers and Kracko (Whispy's fine as always) and Galacta Knight just for the sake of it.

i dont think theres a more pointless series than Kirby.

>>382737186
You're basically just saying you don't like the Dark Matter saga.

Which is fine - the Dark Matter saga was far more puzzle and exploration based, while the other games are all more combat or action focused.

That said, the original Kirby game didn't even have powers, and the first one with them didn't have multiple attacks per power. So that's definitely not "true" Kirby gameplay, and I'd argue that the focus on that is what's keeping Kirby from actually growing as a series.

>>382737579
Hm.
Pretty sure Return of the King in Super Star Ultra did it right.

>>382737186
>between Super Star and Triple Deluse
what's wrong with Amazing Mirror?

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>>382735074
Rate muh shit taste pls
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AFZHQZFd1Bw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QbugmGC6f6k

They could at least try some new art styles if the engine is so perfect for those games, honestly.

>>382737846
Moody/10
Not bad.

>>382737851
Surprised we haven't gotten a cel-shaded Kirby game

>>382737186
>multiple attacks per power
I mean, you know that was in Squeak Squad as well, yeah?

>>382737959
Squeak squad had the worst collectible placement in the entire series, bar none

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>>382737846
>Crystal Shards
>Shit
Come here, anon.

>>382735331
>They murdered Chibi Robo by making it a boring platformer
>not satisfied, they went on and want to murder Pikmin as well

How could Miyamoto let such thing happen?? What's next? A Star Fox platformer too?! F-ZERO???

>>382737714
What do you get from playing videogames anon? Not sure what I've been missing here.

>>382737186
So you basically just don't like DL3, 64, AM, SS, or RtDL?

>>382738458
Or Epic Yarn, which is a very good game.

>>382738264
Well I'm not gonna disagree with you on that, I was just saying that it did have multiple attacks.

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>>382738362
>F-ZERO???
>Platformer
>Developed by Arzest

>>382738497
It was good, but that's not exactly a "Kirby" game.

That's like calling Captain Toad a Mario game.

>>382738714
Well, it was originally a standalone game, like Star Fox Adventures and Dinosaur Planet.

>point out TD and PR are basically just RtDL 1.4 and 1.6 at release
>get ignored
>HAL makes a game that actually meaningfully shakes up the gameplay for once and changes the visual style
>everyone keeps screaming rehash

lmao

>>382738714
Captain Toad is a Mario game. It was always a Mario game, it's a direct spin-off/prequel to 3D World.

I would have really preferred if it was Prince Fluff's Epic Yarn, though. It didn't need Kirby, and it could have been its own series.

>>382738970
Wait what?

How is the new Switch game meaningfully shaking up the gameplay?

The helpers? When you could just be a fucking Kirby in RtDL and eat the enemy?

The mixing? Which is basically just a supped up version of Squeak Squad's except it turns every Mixed power into a one off ala Crash?

And the visual style is identical to the last 4 games, even if the graphics have been improved.

>>382739214
Kirby is shit.

>>382730628
Add in
>Nearly the same identical maps
>Same enemies
>Same Power Ups
>Same game engine
>SAME SAME SAME
Kirby suck my dick please

>>382739214
>even if the graphics have been improved.
HAHAHA Kirby for Shitch looks like a fucking PS2 game lmao!

>>382739353
Replied wrong?

>>382739214
>And the visual style is identical to the last 4 games, even if the graphics have been improved.

I think the Switch game looks more...I can't think of the word for it. Like everything's made of wood or something.

>>382739751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc3PAAije0Y

It's a little more washed out, but that's about it. They're even re-using the same models they used for RtLD and PR.

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>its okay when the japanese make the same game over and over again but its not okay when assassins creed and cod does it

>>382739913
If assassins creed or cod were fun then it'd be ok.

>>382739587
No I was agreeing with that anon that Kirby is rehashed shit. I cringed more at the Kirby announcement trailer than I did for the Xenosaga 2 trailer.
>>382739913
Literally It's okay when Nintendo does it.

>>382740050
>KIRBY AND YOSHI YARN IS COMFY IDIOTS GAEM DONT NEED TO BE HARDCORE LIKE COD OR DARKSOULS
Sad to say but at least creed and cod has more gameplay than these shitty kid games. These games are worst than Sony's "movie" games.

>>382740050
CoD is literally more fun than Kirby and if you disagree you're a manchild.

>>382740187
>shitty kid games
Insulting a target demographic is the lowest form of criticism, don't act dumb

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>>382739913
>>382740097
>Literally It's okay when Nintendo does it.
What did you mean by this?

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>>382740270
pick the best cod so everyone can argue with you

>>382740187
That's not even what he's saying and those games play nothing like the more traditional entries to those franchises.
Go to bed anon.

>>382740187
>shitty kid games.
lol kids don't play trite like Kirby or Yoshi. We live in a world where only manchildren play these fucking games anymore. Why do you think the Switch is selling so badly? It's because Nintendo fans are rapidly dieting from diabetes.

>>382740410
MW, MW2 and BO are all better than Kirby has ever been.
Fact.
>inb4 "I only play mature games for mature adults such as myself" manchild argument

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>>382740682
>Nintendo fans are rapidly dieting from diabetes.

>>382729716
Amazing Mirror changed the formula a bit. Worlds were connected together vs a level 1, level 2 .... and so forth.

Kirby is so fucking boring how can you keep buying it every year? It actually boggles my mind.

>>382740791
Please don't respond to the Nintendo fans. You are literally wasting your life talking to the human equivalent of weeds.

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MRRRREEEEEEEEOOOWW

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rtdl > robobot > triple deluxe

come at me

>229 posts
>75 posters

Definitely no samefagging going on here huh OP.

>>382740930
Nintendo fans exclusively buy and play brain dead rehashes.

>>382741106
He's posted the same thread religiously for a week.

Definitely no samefagging.

>>382741106
If you want a Nintendo hugbox I suggest Reddit.

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>kirbyfags getting blown the FUCK out

>>382740935
>>382741112
But the thing is, Nintendo still has good games with some challenge like F-Zero and Pikmin. I mean yeah Mario and Zelda are pretty easy but Kirby is just... literally a baby game.

>>382741010
It's hard to come at you when literally every one of those games is fun and great.

>>382741371
>But the thing is, Nintendo still has good games
No, they fucking don't. No one with any dignity thinks this.

>Had a thread about this yesterday
>Already had a thread about it today
>The same faggot is still using the brony argument

>>382740897
Amazing Mirror was basically a full version of that cave game from Superstar. It was a far cry from NiD and the same for the last few Kirby games which basically rip off KA right down to the "Oh noes a boss behind the Final Boss!" twist.

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>people are shitting on Kirby for no reason
Is there nothing sacred on this board anymore?

It's the same meme with all kirby games
> hurr no bad kirby games
Because they've been making the same game for like 25 years now

>>382741814
>people

More like OP samefagging and phoneposting.

>>382741881
>Because they've been making the same game for like 25 years now
The same could be said for literally every Nintendo game if you think about it.

>>382729614
because Kumazaki is a genius?

>>382731215
lel, PR really went in depth with stuff like Poison and Spark. You're still right entirely.

>>382741881
>Super Star
>64
>Amazing Mirror
>Air Ride
>Same game

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when the fuck Kirby Action Fightan will be announced already?

>>382741702
Pretty sure he's trying to keep the thread alive on his own. I just wish he didn't do it when there's an actual kirby spinoff release that's fairly topical. At this point he's being more vocal about it than the kirby thread regulars.

>>382741763
So do you consider AM to be a good or bad game then?

>>382731140
quite funny MP3 is just like how DKC3 was a problem to it predecessors

>>382740987
>eerie silence
>suddenly appears
>ambiance plays with a siren blaring in the distance
>eyes slowly open and track you
>his face is unmoving, his mouth cannot open
>his gears clack, pendulum swings, parts move
>"READY >"

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>>382743351
Tomorrow.

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>>382743351
I just want to play as my boy Meta Knight. Hopefully it isn't just "haha it's all Kirby but with different hats lol enjoy your fucking 3ds fighting game XDDD"

>>382731003
>Star Fox semi-resurrected with Star Fox 2
>incoming Pikmin 4
>Animal Crossing mobile shit is due
>FE15 confirmed
>new 2D Metroid means another Wario Land soon
can't be Kid Icarus fanboys, right?

Fighter and Wing a best
Martial Arts Metaknight when

>>382743872
>New Wario Land

Please. It's been nine years.

>>382743452
I just like it when Kirby borrows from something other than KA for a change. Besides it wasn't the exact same, I don't remember there being nearly as many chest puzzles in Mirror and before RtD the 4 player thing was pretty novel.

>>382735331
>it's different so it's bad
and it's not even out, despite the fact its by the same people who sealed Chibi-Robo's fate and wanted to crossover with Pikmin.

Kirby's Dream Collection is the definitive Kirby game
1) it has the 6 best Kirby games right on it
2) it's got a bunch of original levels that are designed with the game's mechanics in mind are are made to challenge you

>>382734992
Dedede is becoming more and more like nu-Bowser nowadays in spinoffs/non-canon subgames ain't he

>>382744460
What do you mean? L

>>382730426
As we all know, Kirby Air Ride is a bad racing game and a bad Kirby game, but which is it worse as?

>>382734992
I think I'm about down with New! Kirby's direction now, get a new director please.

>>382744384
>mfw it's 90 fucking dollars on amazon

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>>382738606
>it's a shoddy and glorified Final Fight clone
>in favor of Falcon's presence in Smash spinoffs
>inb4 Smashfag holding the monkey's paw goes into bitch tears

kirby cried reading this thread

Return to Dreamland was really fucking good. No complaints here my dude

>>382738878
and Guard, unless we count not finalized prototypes

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Is there some faggot that's been getting so triggered by Kirby threads that he's trying to make /v/ hate Kirby?

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>>382740987
>the voice actor of Star Dream is ded

>>382745147
Same could be said about you, but that's okay isn't it? At least your games are "superior". Because that's what your life rotates around: games. If someone has different tastes, you must screech, cry and shit yourself for hours and hours until the other person on the other side gives up disgusted by your autism or because he realizes he has better things to do. And then you can finally stop, thinking you ahve won something, tha you have accomplished a life goal, that your life isn't so shit.
You know what i'm gonna do now? I'll just go in the living room and relax for a couple of hours playing my "weebshit game".
I'll give you this one ok? So that your moral can have a boost and delay one more time your suicide because your parents are disappointed by the way you waste your time instead of studying.

Think about what you are doing with your life.

>>382743872
do anyone give a shit about the 2D-style Kid Icarus games or do the currently "alienated by Sakurai" fanbase still want another Uprising?

>>382745390
Anon do you have some unresolved issues? You can talk about them here, nobody can trace them back to you.
I'm seriously concerned because this is not the usual level of /v/ shitposting, you need to find a support group

>>382745390
>PROJECTING

What is with the massive influx of Kirby hate threads lately? Kirby threads used to be among the comfiest threads on /v/.

I hate summer /v/.

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>>382745390

>>382745632
Allowing Europe to post on 4chan was a mistake.

>>382744628
he's like the super special final boss in every new subgame or it's deluxe release of it.
first him using a Star Rod Hammer Dedede Custom
second was his mirror version possessed and enhanced by Dark Mind
now he's the colossi of Blowout Blast

all of these appearances of Dedede were giant motherfuckers as well, like every recent "Final Boss" Bowser

>>382745863
I kinda like this. Dedede should get some boss roles again.

>>382745863
It's good for Dedede to be an antagonist, he is Kirby's rival after all. Fighters Deluxe did something kind of cool with it, even if it was a little lacking, but this one just makes him big and reuses the mask that didn't need to return after Return of the King.

>>382746014
>>382746075
as long they don't over do it. please Kumazaki, don't milk my boy too dry.

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>>382745390
>you will never be this autistic

>>382746075
>Had a cool appearance in TD

Don't force it into everything and ruin it, Kumazaki. You don't need to re-use fucking everything.

>>382745632
It's one guy who has been posting the exact same thread.
Same OP, same posts, same fucking thread.
He's been doing this for several kid friendly platformers recently, not just Kirby. And it's always the same fucking thread.

>>382741626
Okay just ignore how much impact they've had on video games, sure.

>>382745243
It was the devs fucking cat.

>>382729614
Because it's a game i never got bored with and demand more levels of
The fuckinf Robobot better be in switch kirby i SWEAR

Epic Yarn and Mass Attack were different.

>>382745527
It's no secret that I'm a loner. I tell people this up front when they meet me, not to expect things. (By meet, I normally mean online, safely behind my PC). Over the years my lonerism has gotten worse and worse. With that, I'm sure my gloomy nature is more than just that, but I haven't seen a doctor so I won't say I have anything wrong with me. As to not make this a dreadfully long post, I'll sum up that I went from outgoing, semi-fit to not caring what I eat, wear, look like (For the most part). I stopped being excited for anything that was outside the borders of my home. That is, until I found out about Kirby Return to Dream Land. I've recently downloaded it and the first few hours, I sat there, staring at Kirby and then glancing around Cookie Country. Wanting to, but afraid to actually go. Today, I went. And I didn't plan on going very far, there walked to the windmill tree closeby and I thought that'd be a good start. It felt so liberating to walk there, with a sense of purpose I've not felt in 10 years. (That's how long I've been sitting at home) I kept walking and went to climb hills and drink from streams. I only talked to a Bronto Burt briefly but I loved every second of it. I smiled the entire way that I thought I'd share that with a bunch of people that I don't know. Maybe, perhaps, a few of you are also excited but afraid. Hopefully, you'll take the same step I did. I promise you won't regret it. I'm going to walk all the way from Green Greens to Cloudy Parks. I'm going to sit in the cool of Wispy and eat unto myself an apple, and it will be good. I'm going to visit Castle Dedede and appreciate his glorious domain. I'm going to befriend Dreamlanders and build a life for myself. I'm still packing my things. Going into Kirby's world is going to be the best experience of my life. Wish me luck bros.

>>382745632
Yeah it's just the same guy making the same thread.
Sadly it's when a few new kirby games are in sight so all real discussion is being snuffed out with everyone falling for the shitty bait.
I say that the longer this thread remains active the more the samefag will make these easily seen through threads.

>>382747070
Stale pasta.

>>382747070
Chef, these noodles aren't even cooked.
This pasta is disgustingly lukewarm.
You expect me to eat this?

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>>382747125
>Yeah it's just the same guy making the same thread.

I think it's the Pokebarneyfag, who was some guy claiming that Sun and Moon were going to flop and be considered absolutely terrible by everyone on /v/ and beyond. When he got proven wrong, he shat up Zelda threads, and now I bet it's the same guy making these threads.

>>382746282
>He's been doing this for several kid friendly platformers recently, not just Kirby.
You're right. How much do you bet >>382702987 was made by him?

>>382740791
This is a stupid as fuck comparison cause Multiplayer>Single Player.

>>382740987
top 10 greatest anime plot twists

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>>382746428
and it fucking died, he posted about it on his blog

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man what a fucking shitty thread
guess times of comfy Kirby threads are coming to an end

>>382746279
He used his own idea one additional time six years after the original game and escalated it beyond that in the same encounter.

>>382730350
they are experimenting on how to use the 3D,blowout blast is already an huge step ahead,but the road is still long

it took them years to perfect the 2D formula,and the same is going to be for 3D,they need to understand what works and what doesn't and they do this by doing little steps without risking of making a bad 3D kirby game

it's going to take time,but the result will be satisfying

>>382748876
They did like 5 years ago

>>382730034
64 was probably the best "3D" Kirby game.

I still hope for a metroidvanian Kirby like Nightmare in Dreamland, but with modern graphics.

>>382751075
>metroidvanian Kirby like Nightmare in Dreamland
>Nightmare in Dreamland

You mean Amazing Mirror

>>382735074
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJvNZVlvNiA

>>382736083
TD is breddy good but not as good as Robobot.

Still loads better than Squeak Squad.

>>382729614
>nintendo defense force in charge of handling the banter