Fallout 3 or New Vegas?

>>382708636
NV is obviously better but I prefer 3's atmosphere

>>382708636
New Vegas in a landslide

>>382708636

I'm actually replaying Fallout 3 again for nostalgia sake, really enjoyable so far.

>>382708636
3's soundtrack is much better and that's all that matters

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>>382708789
>3's atmosphere
Stop

>>382709192
>whorship it

Tale of Two Wastelands.

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Fallout 3 is far superior

NV > 4 > 3
There is no reason to play 3 when 4 exists. It's the exact same game but superior in every way.
Obviously if you value characters and branching storyline over aimless exploration, NV is better than both.

>>382709192
>that image

Jesus, how wound up do you have to be to make something like that?

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>>382708636
Hmm, that's a good question. Would you rather eat a steaming pile of dog shit, or enjoy high quality dish of food created by top chefs?

>>382710245

I'd rather have the good dish that goes by the name of Fallout 3

>>382709596
i'd argue if you just want more wasteland content you could install TTW and do all the sideshit of FO3 since there's a lot of content
i don't remember any of the side content for FO3 being particularly as bad as the story, besides maybe zeta and anchorage

>>382708636
Literally fallout 3, nv is the most annoying fucking game in the world, I used to think this before I browsed /v/ then I came here everyone is bitching about it still, pick up a copy and start playing it again and now I'm absolutly positive fallout 3 is better
>wandering wasteland
>(location marker)
>go there
>completely pointless
>search area not a single npc
>not any kind of loot
>travel some more through a shit empty desert
>another location
>no npc no loot
>travel to new location
>actually find an npc
>no quest just pointless conversation
>travel some more, find location
>still empty
Literally fuck this game, I wish I would have bought 3, anyone who thinks nv is better is prolly 15 and played it first

>>382709192
What is nvs better, wow I can't wait to wander through this shit empty desert where half of the locations don't have any loot at all or anything to do

>>382709192
I agree that it's a shoddy game but that doesn't mean it doesn't have a good atmosphere. Everything is completely fucked and it feels like it. "Real Fallout"'s post-post apocalyptic thing gets reddity fast.

>>382709148
By soundtrack do you mean the score or the radio music? You're right either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0D5IB3C14E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmHaMRAXuI

>>382709192
Jesus christ all he said was that he preferred the atmosphere in 3 you fucking autistic sperg. Didn't even say Fallout 3 was better.

>>382712638
>the score
FNV has 1/2 ambient tracks, it's not even a contest really.

>>382711350

Ugh is called worlbuilding -_-


>>382712808


kys

Capital wasteland was more fun to explore unlike the mojave where its mostly deserts and cliffs
Everything else NV did better

>>382708636
New vegas is Fallout 3

>>382712808
>1/2 ambient tracks
I mean, FO1/2 ambient tracks, if it wasn't clear. You know, City of the Dead, Vault of the Future, Metallic Monks etc.

>>382712220
>reddity
Kill yourself. It's more creative than the bullshit pouring out of Bethesda's writers. It makes more sense than everyone refusing to lift a finger to improve their lives two centuries later.

>>382708636
Used to prefer NV until I went back to 3 and realised how fucking dull NV's map is

>>382712220
>Real Fallout"'s post-post apocalyptic thing gets reddity fast.
Wow. I don't really have anything to add or say. Just, wow.

The only reason why I hate 3 is because:
Three Dog
Liberty Prime
President Eden
Three Dog
Liberty Prime
Colonel Autumn
Three Dog
Liberty Prime
Three Dog
Liberty Prime

>>382712926
i sure liked how they copy and pasted metros a dozen times over the map
and how downtown DC is one linear corridor
or how most locations feel like a clusterfuck of ideas that dont work wel with the world

>>382712067
Nigger what? Are you implying Fallout 3's world is less barren than New Vegas'?

>>382713618
Yes

>>382708636
>>>382711350
>
>Ugh is called worlbuilding -_-

>empty location no loot no npc no quest activity
>world building
Stfu dude

>>382713536

I sure liked how NV had one big desert with fuck all in it and that most locations are just little camps with raiders of Powder Gangers in them with nothing to add to ghe story and no particularly good loot.
Or how the strip is incredibly underwhelming.

>>382713487
COMMUNIST DETECTED

DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

>>382708636
>3 OR NV
"Daily dilemma of a russian gaymur"

>>382713756
the strip is only like that because bethesdas engine is dogshit
fallout 3 suffered from it too, a final battle of a total of 3 BOS paladins, giant spassing robot and 3 Enclave soldiers

>>382714017

If only Obsidian gave the Strip more time and effort, it wouldn't be so shit.
Atleast Bethesda tried to make the most out of their shit engine, with a battle that can feel large if you don't think about it too much.

The Strip is fundamentally fucked and no amount of mods will ever bring it to it's original glory.

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>>382708636
I realize NV is better from a game design standpoint that makes you choices hold water, but I don't think of 3 as damnable as most do. Probably because I played it before NV, and compared to 4 it's a fucking 9/10.

>>382708636

Easy.

Fallout 3, cause it doesn't have Dead Money as DLC.

>>382714349
but dead money is good

Fallout NV had:
>Much better story
>Infinitely better starting area where you don't have to waste 30+ minutes as a fucking kid
>Excellent factions
>Much better role-playing elements (charisma actually being valuable rather than complete dog shit)
>More quests
>Better voice acting
>Brilliant sense of world and story connectivity (https://youtu.be/wvwlt4FqmS0)
>Gambling which many enjoyed and was fun if you had really high luck
>Better writing and genuinely hilarious moments

Fallout 3 isn't a heaping pile of trash like people make out and definitely had good ideas. Fallout NV just seems like it improved on almost all of them. Fallout 4 I just can't get into because so many elements feel like a huge step back compared to Fallout: NV.

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>>382714349
it has a much shittier one instead

>>382714276
>that can feel large if you don't think about it too much.
thats a terrible excuse
if you cant pull off something on because of limitations then dont fucking do it, no matter how you look at it its still mediocre, a talented developer could have worked with less, but bethesda needs their epic explosionfest

>>382714557

>Charisma actually being valuable

Oh I love hacing to have a minimum of (insert number here) to pass this speech check! It totally feels so lively and random when I use the speech check, and the numbers aren't there because they're a wall to progress!

I love having to invest in 100 Charisma only to not miss out on certain speech checks!

>>382714725

>if you cant pull off something on because of limitations then dont fucking do it

Why does the Strip exist then? There was no way in hell they could pull it off with the comp hardware at that time and with the engine, ehy did they even try, anon?

>>382714349
Mothership Zeta and Operation anchorage are greater sins of gameplay than Dead Money
atleast i wasnt bored out of my mind playing it

>>382714349
>implying
Commit seppuku, dead money was NV's best dlc.

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>>382714773
>waaahh I can't do everything on one character, I hate rpgs!

>>382714531
the first time I hated it but in my second playthrough I actually put attention to the lore and story. Loved it.

old world blues>dead money>lonesome road>>>shit>>>>>>hell>>>honest hearts

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>mfw bethesda leak of this shithive
>mfw its one connected timeline of Fallout-Starfield-Elder Scrolls
For fucks sakes Bethesda, you're supposed to drop hints for the players to speculate on braindead theories on their own, not make it yourselves. Is there anything they can do right?

I like the Dunwich building and Oasis.

>>382715678

what even is this?

>>382715903
a new bethesda ip

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>>382715636
>lonesome road>>>shit>>>>>>hell>>>honest hearts
I can understand not liking HH, but Lonesome Road was fucking garbage, on par with OA

>>382715903
some dumb anons decided to believe a dumb anon
https://imgur.com/gallery/BjawT

>>382716045

about? i've literally never heard of this.

if it is actually Bethesda's new IP, not some other Zenimax company, then it has to be VR and 60$

>>382716154
>VR
>60$

todd_jew.jpg

>NV
>Smaller, less detailed wasteland
>Illusion of choice has no affect (muh morally grey story)
and the biggest failure to the Fallout formula
>No random encounters
Obsidian cucks will defend this

>>382708636
>Fallout NV had:
>>Much better story
I'll give you this one
>>Infinitely better starting area where you don't have to waste 30+ minutes as a fucking kid
30 minutes what? It's an intro to the game and tutorial it take like 10 minutes, it's the first fallout game to be this style and it's teaching new players what to do
>>Excellent factions
Wow I pissed off a faction by killing one of there members with no one else around, somehow every member of the faction knows who i am and now every fifteen minutes I'm attacked by assassins great
>>Much better role-playing elements (charisma actually being valuable rather than complete dog shit)
Who gives a shit it's a stupid part of the game and if I don't have a speech of 100 I'm fucked
>>More quests
Not even tho quests are few and far between and half of the people you can actually talk to are just pointless convo that doesn't effect anythong
>>Better voice acting
It's literally the same
>>Brilliant sense of world and story
Shit empty world, that you can't even get at for most of the game
>>Gambling which many enjoyed and was fun if you had really high luck
Do you actually gamble? You barely make caps and caravan is the most retarded minigame ever made
>>Better writing and genuinely hilarious moments
Not even if you think anything about this game is funny you're autistic and have a horrible sense of humor honestly I'd like examples of what you think is funny about this game

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>>382716360
HATE CUSTOMERS

>>382716134
Lonesome was alright though, always feels nice to go there after having built a character of my own, deciding my alegiances and ending up bwing able to stand on my side and debate with ulysses on how it sure as fuck beats the bear.

If im going to be fully honest, Zion was way worse than the divide too, the only good thing about it was joshuas gear and follows chalk while the divide had the stylish as fuck gas mask, the courier jackets, the amazing riot gear set and just exploring the fucked up buildings just gives me a sense of nostalgia, almost. Reminds me of a certain autistic game.

>>382714561
Anchorage was fucking bad ass. What don't you like about it?

>>382716503
>it's teaching new players what to do
yeah, by treating them like literal fucking babbies learning to press WASD to move

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>>382710040
>Jesus
What? Images like that are about as much effort to create as a 4chan post. You'd basically have to be as wound up as people here regularly are, it's not remotely impressive.

>>382716850
You are a baby tho...

>>382717080
Yeah, and it's a stupid gimmick intro.

>>382716796
Fuck off randy

>>382708636
New Vegas. Bethesda's Fallout team cannot write a story to save their lives. Fallout 3 was complete garbage that made no sense, shit all over the lore and broke internal consistency at every turn. Somehow 4 managed to be even worse.
The only reason to play either 3, 4 or Skyrim is if you enjoy wandering around the empty world, fighting the same enemies and then looting another chest of worthless leveled loot.

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>>382709392
I agree

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>>382716796
Nice cart dude

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>>382716787
>the only good thing about it was joshuas gear and follows chalk
Sure you haven't forgot somethign

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>>382708636
>never played the original Fallouts
>played 3, mite be cool
>it was alright
>play New Vegas
>it's actually pretty good
This seems like a very contrived debate.

>>382717125
In nv you get shot in the brain are hurried for days, and you get dug up and you're fine, you wanna talk about gimmick intros, let's talk about gimmick intros

>>382717837
>are hurried for days
You don't, and the intro doesn't take much of your time and doesn't insult your intelligence by making you play as a fucking kid.

>>382717601
I never enjoyed using the survivalists rifle, more of a This Machine kind of guy, armor is nice but I always go for light early game and that extra crit alongside it being swat armor just places it much higher than ranger gear, ill admit its alright and I did forget about it, but its not that apealing to me, sorry.

>>382708636
Fallout 3 would be better in my mind if it wasn't called Fallout 3. It's a good game and slightly funner than NV, but because bethesda decided to rape the fallout series, instead of creating their own ip, I will be forever mad and nitpick on every detail.

>>382717837
That's just the story set up. The equivalent to the kid parts would be getting to roll around in the dirt.

>>382718040
I think he's talking about the character of Survivalist.

>>382717629
>>never played the original Fallouts
What did you enjoy the most about NV, and did you read /v/'s opinions on either game before you played them?

If any of you ever played the originals or at least only played Fallout 2 you would realize 3 is much closer to the original formula than NV.

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>>382718757
>3 is much closer to the original formula
The bait is strong here

These have been are the same threads over and over for years now. None of the fallouts have enough material good or bad to demand daily threads.

>>382718140
It's a shitty game, Fallout or not. Kill yourself as soon as possible.

>>382718272
He was well written, extremely so, but he couldnt save Zion from mostly being a bore, he was one of the good things in it but he didnt save it from mostly being mediocre. I could never find his whole story but the parts I read were really well done.
>>382718757
I played 2 for a good while and got myself to a part where I had to raid a sort of vault that was beong guarded by tons of guards, leveling was a massive bore and the random encounters were either inpossible to kill, piss easy, tedious due to waiting for over 7 combat unitd to slowly put themselves in position so I could finaly act right. 2 has plantations and actual logic put into it, even with regerence shit it wasnt near 3.

>>382713618

New Vegas is a wasteland set in a desert. It just feels like the desert. The overworld is shit, it is a lot of straight, low desert roads sitting between high hills.

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>>382719281
You need to understand that HH was the smallest scope DLC by design. It really is about roaming the cool environment and doing some crappy quests to get by. I think the environment was well done, as well as you can with the engine anyway. I loved the tribal aspects, too - the creepy murals of giant Joshua murdering White Legs, the burial places, all that stuff was good.

>I could never find his whole story
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Randall_Clark_terminal_entries

I'll always prefer new Vegas' atmosphere setting and theme. being a son of a bitch that's hard to kill charging across the desert to settle a score is leagues more interesting than being a shitty 19 year old who magically saves DC with only two boring black and white factions

>>382719614
Wasn't Gonzalez Horizon's lead writer? It's a shame he fell this low.

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>>382708636
>New Vegas fags make a thread comparing NV to an objectively shittier game so they can jerk off about how it's the "best rpg ever".

>>382708636

Personally, I found New Vegas boring as shit. Didn't care for the story, and the world was so empty and poorly designed, it just sort of killed the game for me.

>>382709192
They mean to say they prefer the environment which is understandable as New Vegas is butt fucking ugly under that engine.
>tfw no 2017 desert game with PBR

>>382716503
>FO3 has more quests than NV
There are significantly more quests in NV than in FO3

>>382719819
Yeah. Before FNV he wrote for EndWar. His writing was very good for New Vegas. I'm a bit of a Sawyer fanboy so it's easy to me to point out that it was Sawyer who gave him general direction. But maybe the creative climate at Obsidian was just different enough.

>>382719869
It's the best Fallout game.

>>382719869
I literally started new vegas 4 hours ago.

>>382719071
Nah it was a good game. Bethesda trying to tie it to Fallout 3's lore was stupid.

>>382718497
I don't know what in particular. I didn't read opinions about either. Obviously NV is fresher in my head but I barely remember any of what happened in 3. NV seemed like it was basically an expansion, more seemed to be going on, I actually took an interest in what I was doing, and I had a few laughs. 3 was like a novel concept that was kind of rough around the edges while NV felt like a refinement.

nv is better than 3 because obsidian actually managed to understand that the bombs dropped but over 200 years ago. The world moved on. 3 pretends that it still happened 10-15 years ago

>>382719869
Yes and any criticism of NV is either objectively false or bethesda's fault.

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>>382719869
Hmm this looks familiar...

>>382716503
>Wow I pissed off a faction by killing one of there members with no one else around, somehow every member of the faction knows who i am and now every fifteen minutes I'm attacked by assassins great
You're right, excellent is a really strong word to use. It's still a step up from none though.
>Who gives a shit it's a stupid part of the game and if I don't have a speech of 100 I'm fucked
Yeah, it is pretty hard making diplomatic solutions with low speech.
>Do you actually gamble? You barely make caps and caravan is the most retarded minigame ever made
It said really high luck. And it's right in saying so, gambling with high luck is stupidly overpowered.

>>382720487

>>nv is better than 3 because obsidian actually managed to understand that the bombs dropped but over 200 years ago. The world moved on.

There is literally a greaser gang in the game that based themselves on Elvis. 1950s music still plays on the radio, everything is still designed like the Vegas existed in the 1950s. People still dress like 1950s Vegas lounge singers, like Benny, and they still live in shitty pre-war structures, like a hotel with a giant dinosaur in front of it (because a fiberglass dinosaur would definitely survive a nuclear blast and 200 years). Fuck forget the fact the game clearly doesn't look like anyone moved on, as you claim, they actually went fucking backwards, and there are now Roman Centurions roaming the fucking Mojave desert because "lol! Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas!"

>>382719979
Source

>>382708636
New Vegas. No question.

>>382719614
Well, faor enough. Its just a shame it was so restricted by its origins, Zion is a place of beauty but it isnt worth going through it all. Also, apreciate the link, ive read more than what I though I did but still glad I read it all.

>>382720995
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_quests
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_quests
106 vs 253
Feel free to count yourself

>>382719869
ok what are the best RPG's?

>>382715678
If Todd ever tries to integrate TES lore into Fallout lore Kuhlmann will fucking kill him

3 has a better map (for the most part)
NV for everything else

>>382721209
>counting unmarked quest than can sometimes only take a minute or 2

>>382721964
Even without counting unmarked quests there are more quests in NV than FO3.
80 vs 172

>>382716503
>Wow I pissed off a faction by killing one of there members with no one else around
If you do it without breaking stealth or using a disguise, you suffer no reputation loss.

>preemptive "side quests don't count!"
55 vs 92
>"main quests only!"
15 vs 30
>"endings!"
1 vs 4

>>382720949
they moved on in the sense that for the most part the NCR rebuilt and somewhat maintained a working society where people don't have to worry about getting shot any day of the week

>>382716503
>Do you actually gamble?
Do you? I'm a millionaire and every casino in NV hate me for it.

A question outside the debate. What is a good weapon to complement the holorifle? I've got 100 points in Guns and 50 in Energy Weapons. Thanks.

>>382723067
>1 vs 4
You mean 300 vs 4, you Obsidiot.

>>382723286
>"FO3 has 3 times as many endings as it has total quests"
What did he mean by this?

>>382723502
Uh, sorry, it's actually only 200. Still better than FNV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDcC94UZaz4

>>382723280
Riot/hunting shotgun and anti-mat rifle. Or YCS, gatling laser, LAER if you want to go full energy.

>>382708636
New Vegas by a country mile

>>382714773
Me, I love investing 100 in charisma only to have it fail because of RNG

So what are essential NV mods?

>>382714773
That's not how Charisma works in New Vegas, or any other Fallout game, really. It's bizarre, it's like you're /v/ personified, arguing about games you've never played.

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>>382723689
Back then
"As of last week we're over 200 endings. That is not an exaggeration"
Now
>one
Holy shit. How has he not been Molyneux'd and run out of the gaming industry already.

>>382724089
the Josh Sawyer Mod if Hardcore mode wasn't enough for you

>>382720949
It mostly works in New Vegas because the entire central theme of the game is people rebuilding the new world in the image of the old. People in NV aren't just emulating 50s America to fit with the series' retro sci-fi aesthetic, they have clearly defined reasons for adapting pre-war values into their way of life.
It also helps that the Mojave doesn't look like it was hit by nukes a week ago.

>>382724250
Tbh if you consider every single combo of ending slides in 3 you can get... probably not 200, but not 1. Then again, if you do the same for FNV...

Anyway, I think the funnier thing is that supposedly FO3 ended up being twice larger than was planned initially. Man, imagine the game how it was envisioned - 1 city, 3 types of weapon, 5 types of enemies?