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>name five RPGs with good combat

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>name five RPGs with good combat
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>>382686067
>Tyranny
>Divinity: Original Sin
>Dragon Age: Origins
>Fallout New Vegas
>Dragon's Dogma
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>>382686067
Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen
Final Fantasy X
Pokemon Yellow
Radiant Historia
Xenogears
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>>382686215
None of these are RPG
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>>382686067
>Arena
>Daggerfall
>Morrowind
>Oblivion
>Skyrim

If you disagree you are an idiot.
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>>382686067
W I T C H E R
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>>382686359
Pokemon Yellow?

You realize that game is bugged as fuck right?

Pokemon is pokemon, I get that, but gen 1 pokemon has as many bugs as Disney Pixars Bugs Life
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>>382686567
Three of those games aren't RPGs.
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Gothic 2
Underrail

It's not five, but those two are undeniably good
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>>382686567
Morrowind?

We're talking about combat mechanics and you say Morrowind?

The game where your accuracy is RNG (even if you as a player have perfect aim) with ranged combat for the first three hours of play?
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>>382686395
>>382686735
Alright fagot, what's your definition of an RPG?

Also
Suikoden 2
Grandia 2
Breath of Fire 4
Chrono Trigger
Tales of Vesperia
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>>382686567
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undertale is a RPG with good combat
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dragons dogma
dark souls
witcher
Neptunia four goddesses online
Horizon zero dawn
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>>382686642
The Bugs Life tie in was dope as fuck, the Dark Souls of tie ins.
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>>382687457
Undertale is neither a RPG nor it has good combat.
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>name one good WRPG with good non-turn-based combat
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>>382686067
Soulsborne
Most Tales of games
Dragon's Dogma
Dragon Age: Origins
Mass Effect 3 (and to a lesser extent 2)
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>>382689002
Undertale is not a rpg? Then what the fuck is a rpg?
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>>382686395
>>382686735
>>382689002

name 5 RPGs
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Someone should hit OP with an RPG.
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>>382686067
JA2
Dorf Fort adventure mode
Underrail
ToEE
Mountain Blade
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>>382689530
I know where he's coming from.
Undertale is ostensibly an RPG, but the elements are about as complex as DQ1 because those elements are not actually the focus of the game.
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>>382686067
Demon's Souls, BB, DkS3, Dragon's Dogma... And that's literally it -- but most people don't even consider these RPGs.
An argument could be made for Lord of Destruction, but it's not very good anymore.

Also, absolute retards will say dumb shit like Gothic 2 and Dark Messiah, but they're both pretty bad. There's lots of passable hack-n'-slash and aRPGs, but the only ones I would consider good enough to go back and play for gameplay alone are DeS/DkS3/BB/DD:DA/D2X.
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>>382686067

Guess I'll ask here

Which elder scrolls has the best combat?

I heard morrowind has great magic
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>>382689915
>mountain blade

Mount and blade
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>people posting bethesda games
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>>382689981
With that you can argue that every RPG that has more story then gameplay is not a rpg.
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>>382686067
I’m not going to sit around and shitpost because I’m not educated enough with the RPGs I’ve played, but

>Paper Mario N64/TTYD
>Mother 3

These both have fantastic combat imo. They both have interactive hits, so if you’re a dumb fuck with no sense of timing, you’ll still get hit points, but it’s so rewarding to people who do.

It’s just so satisfying to know that how well you do in a RPG battle can be influence by your own contributions beyond only an “action choice”
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I remember Grandia having really fun combat. I never played 2 tho.
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>>382686067
Persona
Persona 2
Persona 3
Persona 4
Persona 5
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>>382686067
>This thread: name 5 RPGs with good combat (implying there are none because this is a bait post)
>names 5+ RPGs with good combat
> “that’s not an RPG”

And the cycle repeats
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>>382686359
>pokemon yellow
>xenogears
KILL YOURSELF
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>>382690801
>namefags gonna retard
shit never changes
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>>382690801
>persona 1 and 2
>good combat
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>>382690712
You’re objectively right but we’re just going to ignore this post because we’re all only here to bait each other, anon
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>>382686215
>fnv
>good combat
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>>382690986
>>382690990
im being ironic you fucking tools
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>>382686067
Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
Final Fantasy V
Shadow Hearts: From the New World
Radiant Historia
Grandia 2

Not necessarly my favorite games but surely the games with the best combat systems
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>>382689915
>M&B.
>Can attack while moving.
>Extremely limited moveset.
>No hitstop, no hitstun.
>Slow.
>Feint system broken, allowing you to feint multiple times per second.
>Slip-and-slide floaty as fuck feeling brought on by attacking while moving, piss-poor animations, lack of hitstop, etc.
If you're talking about the combat, you're completely retarded. As a combat simulator, there's a couple neat things it does. As a videogame, the melee combat is shit.
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>>382689530
Levels are meaningless, there are pretty much no stats, no items besides healing garbage and equip barely makes a difference, not a fucking RPG.
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>>382691394
I meant a different game ya moron
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>>382690007
>Dark Messiah
>Worse than any you listed

Stop it.
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>>382690640
I'm not saying he's right.
Though I was referring to the mercy and minigame mechanics when I was talking about what Undertale focused on.
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>>382691232
I'll add to those:

Suikoden V
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
Paper Mario 2
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>>382691290
Yea it's wonky but I like the novelty of it all

Plus it's brutally difficult for most of the game if you keep the damage on full, which is always a plus
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>>382691394
>This entire post
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>>382686067

Age of Decadence
Underrail
Final Fantasy Tactics
Fallout
Persona 4
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>>382690350
G-get meme'd on newfriend
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>>382691221
>le ironic xd

kill yourself retard
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>>382691172
Pretty sure he just sees "RPG" and automatically tries to suck off New Vegas like a blind Obsidiot. They can't read, don't blame them.
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Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix
The World Ends With You
Devil Survivor Overclocked
Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Milennium Girl
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon
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>>382689367
Mass Effect 2
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>>382691394
>levels are meaningless
Enemies take more damage the higher level you are.
>equip barely makes a difference
It can do a lot to make fights easier actually, especially if you go genocide and are fighting Undyne or sans.
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>>382691579
Dunno, anything but Undermeme I guess, even pinball is more rpg than it.
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>>382687549
Dark Souls is self described as an ARPG, big rig.
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>>382691221
You sweet summer child, does one often have to clarify the use of irony? When you do doesn't that make it a different thing. Generally that's called I have fingers so I must type
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>>382691232
>>382691672
>>382689915
>>382687062


good posts

Hybrid Heaven
Legend of Dragoon
Legend of Legaia
Divinity Original Sin
Dragon Age Origins

Also these, although I didn't really like the combat in Persona 4 personally I recognize it was pretty original and praiseworthy
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It seems that for many people their definition of RPG is a game with levels/stats/inventory but which also has boring non-interactive combat. In their mind, the more a game has combat that is is responsive and dynamic, the less it belongs under the RPG umbrella term. Then we get this thread about RPGs with good combat, which triggers the culmination of contrarian autism, because it is utterly impossible for a game to satisfy both criteria.
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Etrian Odyssey 4: Legend of the Titan
Nioh
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Shadow Hearts: Covenant
Baten Kaitos Origins
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>>382691221
I'm not sure if you're being ironic. That's not really what that means. You are being a tripfag though so you should hang yourself.
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>>382692621
Pinball has no leveling system or equipment to affect stats
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>>382692791
u wot
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>>382693109
Then you played the wrong pinball.
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>>382686215
Tyranny is garbage.
DAO has shit combat too
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>>382686067
We just had a Grandia thread. That whole series.
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>>382692447
>Etrian Odyssey
mah ni-
>Untold: The Milennium Girl
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>>382686067
Pokemon ___
Xenoblade Chronicles
Chrono Trigger
Bravely Default
Fire Emblem ___

I am not here to discuss the overall quality of above games, I only posit that their combat systems are great
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>>382686215
>>382686567
Holy hell you have bad taste.
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>>382693261
W-what? I like the plot. It still has the good old buff and debuff combat with really varied boss fights.

Its the only EO game I"ve played
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>>382693373
Pokemon Conquest and Fire Emblem Heroes?
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>>382686067
>that one rpg with turn based combat done right
>that one rpg with real time combat done right
>that one rpg that did something new and it worked
I can only name three...
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>>382693417
You're in for a treat if you gonna play the others because Untold:TML is the worst in the series.
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>>382693758
>did something new and it worked
TWEWY? Its the most unique RPG I can think of
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>>382686215
I fucking love New Vegas and even I admit the combat isn't the greatest
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>>382692515
>rpg
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>>382686067
Mass Effect. (1 only)
KOTOR1
KOTOR2
Paper Mario TTYD
Fallout 4
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>>382693862
I'm going to try Untold 2 in the near future.
I'd give other EO games a chance but I'm afraid I wouldn't like them since they don't really have a plot focus from what I understand. I'm worried I'd be lacking a sense of purpose
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>>382692515
No.
1. Not an RPG
2. Had shit combat
3. Is worst game of the series
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>>382694047
>kotor
I enjoy the games but defo not for their combat
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>>382694047
>Fallout 4
>Rpg

Not without mods it isn't
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>>382693148
Listing 5 persona games as the answer to OP's post isn't ironic, it's sarcasm. The problem is there aren't any signifiers to inform the reader of that except for a readers own taste. If that taste includes any of those games it fails for that individual. Clarifying that you are actually t. Ironic guy adds another layer of confusion and further removes any significance. It's worse than shit posting it is actually worthless gibberish.
Tl:dr underage tripfag should drink bleach
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>>382694451
Explain how.
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>>382694082
You only need some imagination to fill in the blanks that is your party, but the Classic modes also have a story. Etrian Odyssey 3 and 4 both have better stories than the Untold games. The only thing Untold does is give party members a set of background stories and personalities.
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>>382686735
This.

Arena, Daggerfall, and Skyrim are glorified action adventure games.
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>>382695132
Good to hear
I'll try and go back and play 3 first then. I like the older DS soundtracks
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>>382686067

I got you senpai. I'll even list them by combat, from best to worst.

>Bloodborne
>Dark Souls 3
>Dark Souls
>Demon's Souls
>Dark Souls 2
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>>382695335
>ORIGIN save me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh jeff... i'm so sorry
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>>382686067
I liked the original Boktai's combat the most. It was simple but satisfying.
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>>382686215
>Fallout New Vegas
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>>382686067
>Radiant Historia
>Mother 3 yes, it's basically just Dragon Quest, but rolling HP is still pretty sweet
>Devil Survivor
>Etrian Odyssey
>Mario and Luigi
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>>382686813
>have to actually develop your combat skills if you want to be proficient in combat
>this is somehow bad
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>>382690007
Not a single one of those is an RPG
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>>382686813
That's the joke, retard. TES games have notoriously bad combat and he posted the whole series. Ironically the majority of the games (3/5) he posted have that RNG combat system you're complain about.
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>>382686067
Real time-

Dark souls
Mass effect 2
Oblivion
Fallout NV
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Turn based-
Grandia 2
The last remnant
Final fantasy 5,6,9,10,13
Chrono trigger
Pokémon silver/gold
Persona 4/5

Just to name a few of the biggest ones.
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>>382690007

You're an absolute retard dumb shit. Dark Messiah sure wasn't anything groundbreaking, but what it did, it did well. It made you be aware of your surroundings and use it as your weapon, kicking your opponents left and right, freezing the ground to make them fall from a ledge and shit.

Sure. The actual swordfighting wasn't really that good, but the environmental combat was fucking fun. The first time I saw a soldier lose his balance and fall on his face like an idiot when I kicked a barrel at his legs.

Such a great game.
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>>382695996
Post it.
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>>382686067

The World Ends With You
Jackie Ch--FUCK
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>>382686067
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>>382696940
This list gave me aids
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>>382686782
>>382689915
>>382691817

Good taste.
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>>382686067
Define "good combat".
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>>382693058
>>382694458
>>382692791
but you see i was being ironic even with the ironic post so you were all unironically rused
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>>382686067
Megaman battle network
Mario & Luigi superstar saga
Paper Mario
Chrono trigger
Legend of Mana

Im sure there are many more, legend of mana is a good game, not really sure if the combat is that good for normal standars
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>>382690302
Daggerfall has the best combat in the series, especially if you enable mouselook from Options and rebind the controls accordingly.
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>>382686067
>pokemon red
>pokemon blue
>pokemon green
>pokemon yellow
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>>382698570
>I-I-I was m-m-merely p-pretending...

Yeah... whatever.
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Dragon's Crown
Lost Dimension
Final Fantasy Tactics
Etrian Odyssey
Bloodborne
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>>382690350
Merely pretending?
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>>382686567
todd pls go
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>>382699402
Not an RPG
Bland as fuck combat
Great game, but tactics gameplay isn't exactly engaging
No
Not an RPG
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>>382699883
Throw in Underrail and Genius of Sappheiros instead of the 'non-rpgs'
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>>382686067
>FFT
>Dark Souls
>Dragon's Dogma
>Etrian Odyssey III
>Valkyrie Profile
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>>382686567
(You)
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>>382686067
>Demon Souls
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls 2
>Dark Souls 3
>Bloodborne
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Gothic 2
Dragon's Dogma
Witcher 3 (le combat sucks meme, ok faggot then Dwarf fortress of DivOS2.)
Baldur's Gate 2
Mount and Blade Warband

Bonus: F:NV
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>>382701550
>RPG
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Final Fantasy XIII
Any of the capcom arcade rpgs (knights of the round/king of dragons)
Fire Emblem games
Final Fantasy Tactics
Hybrid Heaven on N64 was pretty rad back in the day.
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>>382686067

Paper Mario TTYD
TWEWY
MOTHER 3
DS version of Ni no Kuni
Chrono Trigger
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>>382702075
>Souls games aren't RPGs meme
elaborate
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>>382703404
the only RPG mechanic they have is leveling up
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>>382703583
>Str/Dex/Int/Faith build variety
>Equip load
>Spell attunement (Vancian magic or some shit I dunno)
>Weapon upgrade paths
>RNG gem grinding in Bloodborne
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>>382703583
lol
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