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Argue.
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>>382679978
Not much to argue about.
People like different games for different reasons, but Bloodborne is best.
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/v/ is a board of peace and happiness
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>>382679978
DaS > BB > DeS > DaS3 >>>> DaS2
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They're all trash
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>>382679978
Should I buy Dark Souls II?
It's eleven bucks on steam
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DeS=DaS=BB>DaS3>Das2
They're all good games regardless
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>>382680630
Softs or regular?
If Softs, then yes
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Dark Souls 1 bosses are boring. Is Dark Souls 2 worse in this regard?
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>>382679978
Stop playing Souls games other than Demon's Souls.
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>>382679978
Sick of people comparing these games just fucking play them
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they're all pretty bad desu
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>TFW you liked DeS for almost all the same reasons matosis pointed out so now you look like a poser
>TFW you look like a bandwagon fag for liking DeS now
God tier is playing DeS, DaS, bloodborne and be done with the series.
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>>382680856

His point was that Demons Souls had a unique idea and followed through on it and was thus expiremental and fresh. The following games leaned more heavily on their combat and have stagnated, changing less and less, becoming thus less experimental and new. It's a totally valid thing to point out, especially once you look at how creatively bankrupt DS3 is. Bloodborne was somewhat innovative, but still fell strongly into the tropes of the subgenre.

Although I think he didn't give enough credit to the quality of the combat in soulsborne games.
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>>382682098
Das's interconnected world in the first half was more impressive innovation than what des came up with 2bqh
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>>382681854
I don't know who "matosis" is and I don't care.
Neither should you. They're all a plague upon the Souls fanbase and video games in general.
Like Demon's Souls on your own, and if someone brings up that guy then shit on them for knowing whoever he.
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>>382679978
I like all the games of that series that I've played. DaS2 is next, hope it's fun like the others.
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>>382679978
2 has the best pvp and environment
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>>382679978
The first Souls game yo manage to complete is the best one and after that they lose all their magic. If Bloodborne wasn't your first then you might feel a brief spark of the same magic when you first start playing. It quickly dissipates.
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>>382679978
From only tried with 3 games: des,das2 and bloodborne
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>>382681854
oh like DeS fans didn't all look like posers in the first place

>"the community was better before DaS came out on PC"
>"it was one of the best experiences with /v/ ever"
>"remember these comics we don't make oc anymore guys"
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>>382683641
You're wrong. I played Demon's Souls when it came out and thought Dark Souls had even more of the magic.
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>>382683810
All of those points are 100% true though.
However, it was a guy who played on 360 that really kicked off the cancer.
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>>382679978
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>>382684772
That's about right.
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>>382683641
Bloodborne was the first one I beat but I prefer DaS1 and SotFS.
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>>382679978
Wow, don't even have to start the thread with bait anymore. Guess its that easy

BB > DaS >= DeS >>>> DaS3 >>>>>>>>>> DaS2
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>>382679978
I've had fun with each one. That's the only rating I need.
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>>382684772
You know this is pretty spot on, for a meme.
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>>382684772
wtf i agree
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>>382679978
Dark souls 2 is fine
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Delete DS2 and 3 and you have the best trilogy of games in the history of the medium.
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>>382688938
this desu
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I like DS1
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>>382684772
Fair enough, though Dark Souls is best.
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>>382680797
Yes.
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>>382682353
>a map is more innovative than new game mechanics
My sides.
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I like Dark Souls 3 more than Bloodborne.
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>>382679978
DaS > BB > DeS

For me personally, DaS's interconnected world puts it above the others. I'm a sucker for that Metroidvania style. BB has a great setting/atmosphere but takes a few steps backwards from DaS and I'm not a fan of the changes to the combat. DeS is very novel and has plenty of great moments but is also the least polished of the three, the bosses are "unique" but a lot of them aren't actually fun to fight.
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>>382692103
what about dark souls 2 and 3
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>>382680630

Do you like PvP? Then yes. Do you like the Souls series for literally any other aspect? Then no.
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>>382680604
Agreeable.
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>>382684772

First one I've ever seen which gets it completely right.
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>>382679978
DeS>DS3>DS>DS2>BB

in b4 troll, falseflagger, whatever other buzzwords you want to call me. bloodborne is last ONLY because of how pathetically easy it is, even shitty DS2 posed more of a challenge. bloodborne is the better game mechanics and storywise, it's just incredibly motherfucking easy. Demon's will always be the best, and DS3 a close second.
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>>382680630
Unless you already bought it, Humble Monthly has it as the revealed game so you get that and a couple other random games for $12.
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>>382693461
>in b4 troll, falseflagger, whatever other buzzwords you want to call me
How about just retard?

>bloodborne is last ONLY because of how pathetically easy it is
Literally your top two are even easier. Bloodborne also has the hardest optional content in the series.
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>>382693682
>Literally your top two are even easier. Bloodborne also has the hardest optional content in the series.
well i found bloodborne to be the easiest, so maybe you just need to improve your skills
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>>382679978
"I'm a tryhard": the series

People actually think these games are good?
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>>382693803
Obvious troll is obvious.
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So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that:

The Surge > Dark Souls 2?
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>>382693803
It's fun to customize your character and face a large variety of encounters. They feel like playing D&D by yourself.

Except DaS3, which is a shame.
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What do you think of Soul Sacrifice Delta?
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>>382693754
Irony. DeS is so unbelievably broken it's almost impossible to die.
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>>382679978
Ds1 is still the best bloodborne and ds3 are very good games ds2 is ok at best.
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>>382694920
Nah.
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>>382695028
>ds3
>very good game
b8
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>>382684772
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BB > DaS >DaS II > DaS III > DeS
dont @ me
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>>382695495
fuck (you) and (you)re shit opinion
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>>382695495
>bb that high
>Demon's that low
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I hated Dark Souls but it grew on me.
Dark Souls 2 is painfully underdeveloped but it least it had interesting world and lore was fun.
Dark Souls 3 is polished as fuck but has 0 replayability, every run is the same, it's linear as fuck. Not to mention that every location is an edgy boring grimdark castle/dungeon.
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>>382696791
You're dumb
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>>382679978
I have 100% trophies/achievements of the Soulsborne franchise on PS and PC and this is the most objective rankings that nobody will ever be able to refute:

BB:TOHE > DAS3:TFFE > DAS:PTDE (1080+p 60fps HD modded on PC) > DAS2:SOTFS > DES.

Demon's Souls is the weakest game in the series, it is the shortest, it is the ugliest, it has the worst gameplay mechanic in the entire franchise: world tendency, that is counterproductive to the online multi-player aspect of these games.

Fuck all DeS nostalgia cucks, they deserve to be tortured to death irl.
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>>382699406
someone already tried this anon, it's a blatantly obvious troll >>382695495
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>>382699571
I am 100% serious you retarded piece of shit.

Demon's Souls is absolute garbage compared to the later games in the franchise.

NAME TWO GOOD THINGS ABOUT DEMON'S SOULS, YOU CAN'T.

The level design is dogshit, it has no world design, it is a fragmented piece of shit with 6th archestone missing. The shittiest combat, the worst bosses, period, not up for discussion.

Demon's Souls was an experimental game, it had a lot of good things and a lot of terrible things, especially the shitty world tendency which forces you to play offline to manipulate it properly, which makes you miss out on the multi-player aspect of the game.

DeS is just a piece of overrated nostalgia garbage, I will never ever replay DeS, it makes me vomit.

I replay BB, DAS3 and DAS every month, hell even DAS2 from time to time, but NEVER DeS. It has nothing to offer. It was good when it came out, but as more Soulsborne games came out, DeS got outclassed and became garbage when compared to the later entries.

This is a fact, die from cancer.
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>>382699989
>reddit spacing
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>>382695495
You are absolutely right brother. DeS is overrated garbage.
>>382696241
Bloodborne is 100x better than your cancerous nostalgia garbage DeS. Die from aids son of a whore.
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>>382699406
Also DeS weight system is awful

its the weakest one but still an 8/10
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>>382700097
>no argument
I am glad you admitted that DeS is dogshit. Never ever compare it to masterpieces like Bloodborne, ok cancer kiddo? DeS cucks are the worst, need to be gassed hard irl.
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>>382680604
i'd switch BB with DeS.
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>>382679978
Bloodborne>dark souls 1>Nioh>demon>dark souls 3>dark souls 2
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Grabbed the trilogy on steam just waiting for a controller.
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>DEs - Awesome
>DAs - Awesome
>DAs2 - Bad
>BB - Fucking great
>DAs3 - Alright
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>>382700219
Doesn't matter if it was a 9/10 or 10/10, the other Soulsborne games are better and I'd rather replay them than to ever touch DeS again. The only reason that I don't sell it or throw it away is because I respect From Software and Miyazaki and what Demon's Souls made possible: better Soulsborne games.
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>>382679978
I liked BB the best, but they are all good games. Even Ds2 which I like the least.
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>>382700482
>I'll never experience Soulsborne for the first time again
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>>382700482
I've played them with both keyboard and mouse and controller. Keyboard and mouse are superior, better camera control. For DaS1 you need dsfix+dsmousefix+autohotkey. For DaS2 you need autohotkey. For DaS3 you don't need anything. With these tools you can make proper keybinds if you are smart, I won't share mine with you faggots, because it is god tier and I want to keep my creation and strategy for myself. Goodluck.
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>>382700584
trying way too hard, reddit
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>>382692210
garbage.
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>>382700515
yeah pretty accurate
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>>382700515
See? these are the DeS retards that need to be tortured to death irl. DeS was not awesome. BB is not "great". BB is a masterpiece, the best, the apex of the Soulsborne franchise, the only thing that holds it back is the ShitStation 4.

Bloodborne remastered on the PS5 will show the world the true potential of that game, native 4k 60fps, can't wait.
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>>382700515
>BB - Fucking great but way too easy
fixed
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>>382700820
>can't refute anything I said
Kek. Get cancer DeS son of a whore, I would beat the fuck out of you irl.
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>>382701064
Replying to anyone, continuing to post in this thread, or posting on any board on 4chan in general in any capacity is an acknowledgment that you mad as hell
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>>382701330
Fuck Demon's Souls. It is G A R B A G E compared to the others, this is a fact, stay nostalgia cucked you son of a whore.
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>>382699989
it actually had the best combat in the series, it was fast and it was brutal where one mistake against some fodder trash mob could take out 80% of your HP if not outright kill you.
it also has the best/darkest/gloomiest atmosphere in the series.
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Im going to buy the humble monthly for Darksouls 2. Should I? Never played any souls game ever, is ok to start with 2 or should I pick 1 up first?
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>>382701494
>he's still posting
soon i am going to have an entire 4000x4000 collage of your awful posts, Anonymous (ID: f3W+NCet). Better take your autism meds so you can maybe calm down.
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>>382701746
Pick up 1 or 3 first. I still think 2 is ok, but it's definitely the weakest in the series.
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>>382701752
I will fuck your boypussy irl if you ever 1v1 me irl, you retarded piece of shit. I beg you, 1v1 me irl, come on motherfucker, show us how tough you are. I will rape you. Fuck Demon's Souls and FUCK you ;)
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>>382701515
HAHAHAHAHAHA

SON OF A WHORE
O
N OF A WHORE

DEMON'S SOULS COMBAT IS DOGSHIT. BLOODBORNE HAS THE BEST COMBAT. DEMON'S SOULS ENEMY AI IS THE WORST AND EASIEST IN THE FRANCHISE, THE BOSSES ARE THE EASIEST, GIMMICKY PIECES OF SHIT.

THE ATMOSPHERE ISN'T DARK OR GLOOMY, IT IS JUST A SHITTY PISS FILTER CUZ OF THE GARBAGE BLURRY GRAPHICS AND LIGHTNING ON THE SHITSTATION 3.

BLOODBORNE IS THE BEST. THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

FUCK DEMON'S SOULS.
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>>382679978
I'm having fun playing ds2/sotfs now.
Recently replayed demon's souls on ng+. It is really comfy and has great atmosphere, but feels most clunky compared to the newer games.
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>>382699989
But it was the first game of the franchise, they were just trying out shit, like OoT, so if DeS is bad OoT is even worse.
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At first i tought Bloodborne was boring, then i tought it was cool and now close to finish my second run, i think it's boring again. Not much replayability factor. I don't want to bother with the other Souls games.
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I played Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 PTD Edition and 2 SOTFS, and Bloodborne(including Old Hunters expansion).

Just got Dark Souls 3 Fire Fades Edition and already defeated the first boss and going through High Wall of Lothric and got to where the boss is. I am already in for the DaS3 ride.
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>>382680604
agreed. not that much difference between das3 and 2 though.
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In this thread we list things Dark Souls 2 did that were far better than Dark Souls 3. I'll start:

>No bonfire and no death challenge where you can beat the game without resting at a bonfire or dying to gain a reward and bragging rights

>Non-linear first half of the game allows you to rush straight to the areas of the game that contain the items for your build

>Chugging Estus immobilizes you, and the heal isn't instantaneous meaning trying to chug while someone is sticking close to you will result in death

>Stamina regeneration is tied to weight, so a character at 10% burden will recover their bar faster than a character at 70% burden, giving an advantage and a reason to make a low burden character

>Poise exists and armor provides relevant, but not overpowering damage reduction, giving an advantage and a reason to make a high burden character

>Phantoms and Dark Spirits cannot chug estus, spirits can only heal via spell useage which is slow. This makes fighting outnumbered even without mob assistance possible since any damage you do sticks

>Can only perform four rolls before running out of stamina

>Can only perform 5 attacks of a rapier or straight sword before running out of stamina

>Parrying has longer recovery frames and consumes more stamina, making parry fishing riskier and makes parrying require higher skill

>Power stance allowing for unique combinations of dual wielding and unlocking an alternative moveset for weapons

>Being able to use the full moveset of a weapon in your off-hand including running, rolling, backstepping, etc. attacks rather than just being able to do a basic R1 swing and blocking with the weapon as it is in Ds3 (lmao who would ever want to weapon block)

>Bell Tower covenant providing two unique optional areas to PvP for Titanite Chunks, Slabs, and Twinkling, making farming for upgrades fun

>Bonfire ascetics to replay bosses you like and or gain items from NG+ and beyond without grinding through the whole game again
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>>382700182
>>382701064
>>382701494
>>382703732
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>>382701494
but matthewmatosis confirmed it's the best one you pleb
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>>382695064
You know I'm right. Git gud.
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>>382705915
he is a son of a whore and shit at gaming, he literally sucks cock, have you seen how bad his gameplay is? fuck cucktosis.
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>>382707832
but he's not jesus anon
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Dark Souls 2 is the best
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>all these nostalgiafags
playing Demon's now, it's clunky as fuck and had only 3 good bosses from memory, only serving as a stepping stone for the future series. none of the games are bad, but it's very clear DeS has not aged well at all, cant see how anyone can play it and not reach that conclusion unless you're saying because its the first one it's the best. DaS, DaS 2, and BB have aged well and are replayable for years on end, and I'm sure DaS 3 will be the same despite it being one of the weaker DaS entries. I'm not sure why that anon started autistically screeching out of nowhere but this is why i listed Demon's as the worst. cant go wrong with DaS or BB as best in the series. DaS 2 at least tried to be its own thing and it was great in some areas and piss poor in others. DaS 3 felt like a chinese knockoff of DaS 1 but is mechanically the best in the series. it's perfectly fine if you disagree with me, i'd prefer there to be no consensus best or worst souls game, keeps conversations interesting
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