Why is /v/ so bad at fighting games?

>>382607907
>master a combo
>still lose to a masher online
>watch fighting games
>the people who win are autistic nips who play like robots
And this is why I play games with soul like CSGO instead.

>>382607907
Because I don't care about learning combos and I usually just button mash

>>382607907
Im good at Soul Calibur, does that count?

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>>382608049
>full buy for CTs: $5800
>losing to a $500 pistol

>>382607907
I have over 250 hours in kof xiv, street fighter iv and kof xiii combined
at least 225 hours are singleplayer content

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>>382607907
/v/ is bad at any competitive multiplayer game, especially if its 1v1 not just fighting games.

who want to sfv battle lounge bay bee

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>>382607907
Because I lack the willpower to practice and get good with inputs.
Plus I play with keyboard, and misplace my hands often, so potential for fuckup is high.
If I was good at fightan though I'd play the everloving shit out of KI.
Yes I fell for the free Windows 10 upgrade meme.

Because I play with a Dualshock 2 on fightcade against non-americans with 3000 ping. I would play on PS4 but you need to pay for online, and I would play on PS3 but I'm assuming all of those games are dead now.

>>382608049
it's not all about the combos.

>>382609589
cute

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>>382607907
/v/ is a very large group of people. You don't get the sense of it, because everyone's anonymous, but 4chan gets hundreds of thousands of impressions, and /v/ is one of the biggest boards. Given that many people, it's natural that most of them are going to be shit at any type of game. Games that are competitive and require muscle memorization, reactions, and critical thinking are going to be especially difficult for most people here.

That said, there are some people on /v/ who actually know their shit when it comes to fighting games. But the majority of people here are the ones who were making, "SETH AI IS TOO HARD" threads back in 2009.

>>382611421
hehahaha

I'm alright

let's play ST

just got Street Fighter V
what's the fastest way to get zenny to unlock characters

>>382611490
whats ST

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>>382608049
I see this every thread.

Anyway, localization/english subs confirmed for later this year.

>>382611546
Easy stuff: main story, character stories, watch all the tutorials both vol 1 and 2, beat survival on easy with everyone, do whatever the daily/weekly missions are right now.

Harder stuff: Do the trails, beat the main story on hard mode, do survival normal, hard and extreme with everyone.

After all that all you can do is keep up with the weekly/daily missions, grind FM by winning fights and by fighting with the same character until they level up.

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>>382611563
>whats ST

euthanize yourself

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>>382607907
Im pretty good

>>382611865
answer the question retard

>>382612017
if you knew the slightest thing about fighting games you would know what "ST" means.

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>>382608049
>master a combo
>but don't understand the game fundamentals
>lose like a noob
>thinks the strong buttons and poke game from opponent is mashing
>complain on /v/

>>382612103
cool. do you want people to play with you or not?

>>382611727
No one cares since it's not PC.

>>382611563
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo

>>382612268
people that actually play the game yes.

You don't usually need to be that good if all you want is to unlock all the single player content.

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I'm actually finally getting the hang of SFV. It took a couple of character switches but I finally found my place with Akuma. I still can't climb out of silver but I'm having fun again unlike with braindead Necalli. I might finally git gud after a while, hoping to pick up Tekken 7 once it's on offer to git good too

>>382612385
The steam begging can happen later.

>>382612538
tekken is pretty fun
i wish you well, anon

>>382608049
>I can do a combo so I must be able to win!

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hopes for Season 4? you think we'll even get a Season 4?

because fighting games are boring and the playerbase is awful

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>>382612538
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK/Injustice have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>382612470
thanks

>>382612471
do you want more people to learn your 35 year old game? Or do you care more about being an autistic sperglord on the internet?

>>382612649
I hope MS trully is backing a Ninja Gaiden sequel because the next move would be backing a new DOA.
KI is done till next decade i think.

>>382612538
I'm tired of fighting Akuma and Ken, go back to Necalli. Or play FANG. I've played exactly one FANG out of like 600 matches.

>>382612823
No, we need Ryu hayabusa in KI, he fits fucking perfectly

>>382612782
t. someone who knows nothing about fighting games.

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>>382612810
>do you want more people to learn your 35 year old game? Or do you care more about being an autistic sperglord on the internet?

>>382612810
>do you want more people to learn your 35 year old game?

Nah I really don't feel like hand holding /v/tards and teaching them how to play my game ;))

>>382612782
>Street Fighter... advanced impressively in their latest installments

except it's literally gotten worse with every installment since hyperfighting

>>382613279
retard

>>382607907
Low T.

I ask again
whom want to battle lounge bay bee

>>382607907
Probably because their lack of popularity combined with hard to reach skill floors and ceilings make fighting games seem unaproachable and make the time investment into getting good at them look like a waste of time when you could be playing popular games that require a lot less mechanical skill (like mobas).

>>382613418
your posts in this thread have shown me you will never be serious about the game on a competitive level, so why should I waste my time teaching you anything about it?

>>382613520
rank?

>>382613639
platinum
dont be shy

>>382612956
>Or play FANG. I've played exactly one FANG out of like 600 matches.
>Literally suggesting him to gimp himself
Let him play whoever he wants. At least he's not a Balrog picker like me

>>382613872
unrelated but i played a platinum ranked cammy in a battle lounge a while ago, just as scrubby as any other rank and they rage quit too lol. im only gold rank myself

>>382612591
thanks man, I hope to have fun

>>382612956
Well there's a reason for that. FANG is shit and Necalli, while broken, is so freaking boring. He's literally auto-pilot: the character, matchups don't matter and he has like 3 combos, one of which is a target combo, and one of which you'll be doing 90% of the time. Literally the one interesting thing he has is a command grab

>>382614090
Platinum means jack shit nowadays. Even Diamond players are scrubby (I'm a shitty diamond Balrog player, trust me, I'm awful at this game).

>>382614104
>He's literally auto-pilot: the character, matchups don't matter and he has like 3 combos, one of which is a target combo, and one of which you'll be doing 90% of the time.
My problem with 90% of the vanilla cast, honestly. The DLC character are better thought out in my opinion.

>>382607907
Are you implying /v is good at other games?

>>382612000
Bloody Roar needs to be revived even if it would attract nothing but furries.

>>382614090
Well if you think you are so hot lets do this then. I just didnt want you to get scared off if you were in bronze

>>382614175
>I'm a shitty diamond Balrog player, trust me, I'm awful at this game
I can believe that

>Battle lounge
>99 sec, 1 to win, 3 rounds, pass 1919, 8 man room, comment: looking for players ultra diamond to master

how do i get into KoF98? is fightcade the only way?

>>382614518
>how do i get into KoF98
be mexican

>is fightcade the only way
yes.

Is jack o just adult kula?

I gave SFV a third try and really tried to learn the game this time and I'm finally getting shit down. Only problem is the 360 analog stick gives me very inconsistent inputs, might need to relearn shit playing on keyboard.

>>382614949
use the dpad

>>382614949
>not using the dpad
>not using a ps4 pad
>not using a stick

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>played GGXrd online today for the first time
>get my shit absolutly demolished
New to this style of fightan but man is this going to take some getting used to. The amount of shit to keep track of and options available at any given time is insane. Still though i love the game and my two waifus more.

>>382614949
Funny...the 360 controller was the only wAy I could finish Karin's vol. 2 trials.

>>382614949
It comes down to personal preference. I play just fine on the 360 analog stick. SFV's execution barrier is pretty low, so whatever you're comfortable with works.

>>382615297
I have no idea how to play GG. I'm decent at SF and Marvel, but when I play GG I just get my shit kicked in free. Insane.

>>382615294
Is there a significant difference between kb and say, a hitbox?

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>stuck on ultra plat forever

I am too lazy to go into practice mode.

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>>382613367

You're actually stupider than him, which is impressive

>>382615491
hitbox is a straight upgrade

>>382608049
>dont even know a simple concept like whiff punish
>complains like a retard

>>382615491
i would say yeah in terms of execution, less buttons of hit accidentally i guess

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>>382614412
JOIN THE FUCKING ROOM

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>>382615467
I'm not new to Fighters by any means, but I never gave anime Fighters a REAL try. I bought BlazBlue back when CT released and got bored of it cause no one else I knew was playing it. Friend picked up Xrd and got me a copy so I've really been giving it a try. I got a lot of Jack-O down, but it's hard to get it efficiently going in matches, especially in games where the other player is obviously much more familiar than I. And then there's Ramenthal, who I REALLY want to learn but can't for the life of me get the flow right in match. Eh..soon enough, in time.

>>382609813
Some of these posts are correct, though.

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>>382612782
Is this pasta?

>>382615857
i really cannot be bothered to go into my living room to turn the ps4 on sorry

ST is Super Turbo, or Super Street Fighter II Turbo. You can go play it on Fightcade.
https://www.fightcade.com/
Get it and other ROMs here:
http://fightanvidya.com/games

>>382615518
The ultraplat to diamond grind is insane. Winning three matches and then losing all you've earned in one match is almost heartbreaking. It was worth it for me because I feel like I have nothing more to prove to myself now that I've reached diamond, in a way, but it's not really worth it otherwise.

>>382615873
>And then there's Ramenthal, who I REALLY want to learn but can't for the life of me get the flow right in match.
Same, but with Answer. Feels like the struggle to get some setups going is not even worth it considering his kinda mediocre damage, but he's a lot of fun.

>>382615857
US? I'm the diamond Balrog and I wanna play, but I'm in EU and my connection is ass.

>>382615963
Yes, Tobey.

>>382607907
At least half think smash is a serious fighting game so they play mario party for a few hundred hours and expect it to transfer to a game they just bought.

>>382616106
yes US. just give it a shot then no harm in that

Because some of us have too much dignity to get excited about a genre that's literally hitting random buttons as fast as possible, and buying $200 controllers to be able to hit random buttons more quickly.

>>382615971
I'm sure I'll get shitposted to death for bringing this up, but the Fightcade reddit page actually has a torrent of every ROM compatible with the emulator that Fightcade uses. I'd definitely recommend that to anyone new to the program.

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>>382608049
The problem is a fighting game has things vital to learn that aren't based in mechanics of the game itself. All fighting has an internal logic to it, and that includes video game fights. If you don't know it, you can learn it, but there's not really an instruction manual as such.

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>>382608049
>play CSGO
>master noscope awp flickshot jumping off heaven on cache
>go online
>lose to people that practiced the rest of the game
waooooow

>>382616382
LOL then there's this faggot.

Because I main a lowtier

>>382608049
>master a combo
>still lose to a masher online
Knowing a combo doesn't make you fundamentally good, shitter.

>>382615873
Ramlethal in a nutshell is a scramble and ramble in neutral, and hopefully you get them into the corner. Her setplay is about as strong as it gets in Xrd and the only way she can really win, so grind them out and in matches focus on situations where you can confirm into a corner carry and lock 'em up. You want to prioritize getting a hard knockdown or moving towards the corner more than damage 90% of the time.

Why is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure such a fucktarded unbalanced game? Was playing on FightCade earlier.

>>382616238
>yes US. just give it a shot then no harm in that
Can't find the lobby. Will keep trying for a while but I'm guessing connection's just too poor.

>>382616650
From my experience, I was really able to take advantage of the corner pressure and do somewhat well in that regard, so I'm glad my mindset with her was somewhat correct.

I can't into fighters at all. At best I'm a masher and I don't like that.
I'd like to get good at one, but I lack the patience.

>>382616794
whats your cfn ill invite you directly

>>382616772
How is it unbalanced, besides Petshop, of course?

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>>382608049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IemrE1XwIE

Is this you?

>>382616772
The bird?

>>382616847
Hold on, found it. Entering right now, let's give this a shot.

>>382616908
Some characters don't have stands, therefore some matches are literally 2 on 1

>>382616941
And the fucking dog, also Grandpa Joe, and that fucking red nigger with the butcher voodoo puppet.

>>382611865
Sorry I only play injustice 2. Want to play that?

>>382617126
Play as THE ENTIRE HORSE

So, after playing Guilty Gear, SFV is embarrassingly unplayable. And the lack of shot in the game even more evident. Sad considering GG probably had half the budget and 1/3 the team. Going to take a miracle from Capcom to save it at this point.

>>382617267
I literally only main Chaca, because he's one of the balanced ones. I hate being forced to go Dio, hut hes my alt.

>>382617229
Ew. Only a month out and everyone has already moved on. Just like everyone said. Just like every NRS.

>>382607907
IQ and humility requirement. People in /v/ think there above average savants and any constant loss is the game's fault.

>>382616847
Yeah, sorry, this is not playable. Every time you did an unsafe scissors kick and I couldn't punish I died a little inside. GG anyway, you're good.

>>382614412
2 people in here
get in here

>>382616813
Yeah once a Ram gets their opponent in the corner and sets up the meaty sword summons, they pretty much have to just hold whatever mix-up is coming or be forced to spend burst/tension to get out. Once you get the really grimy setups down and you've got them in the corner it's really all on you if they get out. Check out keeponrock.in & mdesilva on youtube for match vids if you haven't already, it might help you piece together her neutral options better.

>>382617424
So you're putting yourself at a disadvantage and then complaining about it?

>>382617447
It still has lots of people playing though, who is everybody? Do you mean streamers?

And do you wanna play with me or not

>>382617471
thats not unsafe its -2

>>382617523
People who play shitty unfair High tier characters need gassed. Literally fucking kill yourself if you play unfair characters. It takes no fucking skill to spam Mudda.

>>382617492
Any Jack-O advice?

>>382617471
but yeah gg. yeah the hard scissors is safe

>>382617570
Nah, I'm good. Too stiff for me and no flow to it. Plus, it's not out on PC.

>>382617639
Then git gudder than them.

With The Entire Equestrian

>>382617742
Okay. I play KI on pc too, but I'm still not that good at that game and I can never find matches for some reason.

>>382613158
for season 4 it should be half of more crossovers
and the other half being new additions seeing how they can't put in any old characters in anymore
new characters
>The Babylonian King
>Frankienstien's Monster inspired character
>Creature from Black Lagoon inspired character
>Kaiju inspired character, he, of course, can't literally be a giant monster, but of him being the size of Gargos
crossovers
>Ryu Hayabusa
>The Phantom Dust protagonist
>Brute War Chieftain from Halo
>Joanna Dark

>>382617851
Been meaning to download KI. Heard it's coming to steam so I might wait. Are the characters still on rotation for the free to play? Or is it just Jago? I'll only play if I got me Sabrewolf

To the ibuki im playing in this room >>382614412 by the way did i mention that room is open? Ibuki you need to block more

>>382617648
Well, Thriller and Bad are the albums everyone knows and of course they're good, but you should really check out Invincible and Dangerous too.

>>382617812
I'm going to take the lowest possible tier character and rape every last character until I get perfects. It's the only way.

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>>382617984
10/10, would check for colon cancer again.

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>tfw only just stared picking up fighting games seriously just a little while ago
>picked up SFV
>really enjoy it but Super/Ultra-Bronze shitter
>want to finally advance in rank but keep on getting sent back to Super Bronze
>tfw starting to discourage me
I just want to git gud.

>>382617126
some matches are literally 2 on 1
Stands in JJBA are like an extended move list. There's nothing inherently advantageous about them. It's still the same character.

>>382618141
Rank literally does not matter until you're atleast Gold. Don't pay attention to the points. Try to git gud and if you do, the points will come naturally

How hard is it to find matches in rev 2 on ps4? Just got the game and fucking around with sol before I head online and get fucked up.

>>382617979
They apparently were and the one time I was able to get my roommate to play he had a free rotation of characters and I only had jago, so I'm not sure if I missed some sort of cut off date or if I'm bugged. But yeah I've put it on the back burner for now until it gets put on steam. Between the issues I keep having with matchmaking and not being able to play any other characters I don't wanna buy it then see it come out on steam and have to buy it again.

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>>382618141
Literally me and my waif

If another Makoto beats me, it's the worst insult to my pride. It's only happened once, though.

>>382618141
Super/Ultra Bronze literally means your problem is at the fundamental side.

Practice hit confirms. Practice meaties. Practice tick throws. And practice anti-airing. You get those 4 things down you're atleast going up to silver.

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>>382618356
>tfw I pick female characters in fightan based on if they're barefoot or not
I have a problem.

>>382617593
Only H Scissors is -2. I thought you did a few medium ones? H is very slow on startup. Still should've catched my turn with jab but it never happened.

>>382617648
Learn her gatling that goes into 3H for a knockdown, from there you can go for an OTG string to push them away from you so that you can summon a house, or if you already have a house/minions out you can pressure them on wake-up. 2S and 6H are your best anti-airs, 6H keeps them grounded so if you have minions out and they're at mid-range or further you can lock them down and let the goons go to work. You pretty much just want to roleplay Johnny Appleseed in neutral and look for as many chances to summon houses and get as many goons out as fast as possible. When the whole squad's out it's similar to Ram where you just overwhelm them with shit on the screen pressuring autonomously while you do whatever the fuck you want.

You wanna keep your opponent on their toes so that they're forced to decide whether they should rush you down or deal with your houses. Your goal is to be as annoying as possible. Honestly fuck this character I used to like Helloween, too.

>>382618141
block and wait nigga, bet you're so fucking impatient

>>382618539
I dont think I did anything but hard scissors the whole game. i throw more of them out lately. I'm pretty good at not using light scissors unless its a confirm

>>382618241
You sure? I feel like I'm steadily improving but I just keep on getting knocked down in rank anyway.

>>382618496
It's only a problem if you play the wrong game or can't get gud

>>382618607
Appreciate it anon. I'll try not to annoy you TOO much when the time comes.

>>382618667
> I'm pretty good at not using light scissors unless its a confirm
Good shit. Most platinum Bison players I meet have no idea l.scissors is punishable and don't understand it even after getting punished multiple times. To be fair Rog destroys Bison, so I don't blame them for trying to throw out fast moves to stuff me out.

>>382618745
Main? Just curious.

>>382618804
Yeah but I have the much more unique problem of doing infernos by accident

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IS THE LOBBY STILL UP?

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>try to play fighting games
>get double perfected by pros online/at locals
>"that's how your learn!"
>"scrub!"
>"git gud xD"
>stop playing fighting games

Have fun growing you scene, retards.

>>382607907
Because it's about rote memorization with frame perfect button presses and the ranking systems is always trash which demoralizes new players. I'd rather use my time playing Factorio or Slime Rancher than playing a fighting game.

>>382618461
One thing that I struggle with is hit-confirming into super. It's always something that I can't do online most of the time because I panic whenever I hit the enemy sometimes and end up just mashing buttons even though I know I shouldn't.

Meaties are tough to get the timing down for.

I've been anti-airing a lot today but in the past, I've had a lot of trouble with consistently doing it.

>>382618653
Sometimes I'm impatient. Other times, I'm patient as fuck. Generally I do better when I'm actually waiting for my opponent to make a move I can punish though.

>>382618890
Chun.

>>382618975
I literally just closed it but ill remake it

pass 1919, comment is serious match, put everything else on no preference, but its 8 man

/v/ is bad at things that require time and effort

except 4x

>>382607907

I can't get good at the only fightan I like (3S) because everyone who still plays it shits on me. So I have to play against my even shittier friends or the AI.

>>382618798
Yeah no problem, dude. If you want to see what I mean check out dot_nova's Jack-O from this year's Combo Breaker, it's fucking prime.

>>382619097
Season 2 ruined her.

>>382618994
>get double perfected by pros online/at locals
>"that's how your learn!"
That's definitely not how you learn.

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whats the point of fighting games when you have to grind for 100000000000000 hours just to learn how to do the basic shit and even then lose to niggers in pools at tourneys

would much rather spend that time playing all the countless singleplayer masterpieces in the world

>>382619225
Will do.

>>382619275
It really did. I'm thinking of picking up like half a dozen other characters though.

>>382619316
That's fine, if you don't enjoy competition then nobody will blame you

>>382619019
>waiting for my opponent to make a move I can punish though.
das wat u gotta do

>>382619379
i enjoy competition where you can enjoy competing no matter what level of skill and experience you are at

>>382619358
You shouldn't have much problem. They all have the basic gameplan anyways. Birdie main by the way. But most people have a hard time adapting the my CR. Mk keeping them out.

>>382619494
That's called a party game and would mean adding random factors and lowering the skill gap by watering down the game. Those kinds of games are generally not meant for competitions, and rather just casual get togethers.

>>382619379
desu it's not even competition. The fighting community is fucking cancer because of all the autistic niggers in it that think acting like a hoodrat is perfectly acceptable in a public setting. Even ignoring the niggers everyone else seems to be just as autistic that zero knowledge of basic social etiquette.

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I see no benefit in playing these games. it's just full of constant beatdowns and assholes. I see no fun in these things and yet to see why. in fact I've been seeing this thread pop up often. what is your purpose?

>>382619634
That makes the tournaments just that much more enjoyable, not nearly as sterile and dull as other competitive scenes

well that didnt work out so well

Because PC has MOUSE CLICKAN GAEMS instead of BUTTON MASHAN GAEMS. That and you have to have autism to actually be autistic enough to count the frames, like total asscancer >muh 60 fps type autism.

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>>382619756
Give it to me straight, am I gold material? that mid scissor command grab though

LOW

>>382607907

It's not /v/, the majority of people are absolutely awful at fighting games because they take hours of practice to play at a competent level.

>>382619862
WUZ

>>382619850
Yeah play some ranked. We can play more some other time. I've had less trouble with diamond birdies but this is probably an individual thing

>>382609813
Posts like those are why I avoid /v/ fighting game threads.

>>382618994
Has anybody actually said that? Sounds like made-up tripe someone blurted out based on what they heard about the fgc back in the 90s.

>>382619862
IQ

>>382615297
>Plays GG for the first time
>Picks a slow character that has to keep track of where her swords are at all times to be effective, and has BnBs that almost always start with a very hard input that you need to master for optimal damage

No wonder you got your shit kicked in. Pick Sol.

Is there a lobby up?
I'm a rookie R. Mika.

>>382619743
I hope this is bait because otherwise you're a genuine retard or a nigger yourself. You don't just have the choice of a "sterile/dull" competitive scene or a scene dominated by retarded niggers who get physical at the drop of a dime with other dredge of society cheering them on in the background. Well, you're probably the latter because 90% of the fighting community are genuine autists.

>>382620231
I closed it because my connection started to shit itself and I was sick of waiting for people. I might make one around this time tomorrow

>>382619586
both are pretty bad, but if I had the pick one, I'd choose the party game. One gives consistent enjoyment, the other requires you to work for a payoff which may or may not even be given to you in the end. and considering its a fucking vidya, i dont feel the need to push that level of discipline on myself for what should be a relaxing hobby

at least with shooters you can be a shitter but at least move your fucking character, point and hit things. dont even get that luxury starting out in fighting

>>382619743
>responding to obvious bait

>>382619494
A competitive game and a game where you don't have to know what you're doing to win are the exact opposite of each other.

>>382620296
Or maybe you just can't handle the bantz. Don't worry, I'm sure there is a scene for MOBAs or some FPS out there where you can have your nice and quiet tournaments.

>>382620175
>game rewards character specific knowledge and concentration
>LOL just pick some nobody you don't care about and don't want to waste time learning
No, I'd rather not, anon. Even if it takes me a bit, I'd tmrarher just get to know her.

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>>382609813
another gem

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>>382620386
Why does it need to be a relaxing hobby? Sports were originally just playing, but after that it became something more since people enjoy competition. Same with games, at first it's just seen as an entertainment medium, but if people start wanting to see who's the best at something, then creating games for that audience makes sense. Besides, it's fun to be with a bunch of people who you know have put in the time to take the competition seriously.
Everyone who travels out of their state or country for a tournament has practiced basic stuff for hours on end, which makes it feel like an actual accomplishment to beat them, and if you lose then you know that it's on yourself to improve.

>>382620518
Wew, lad.

>>382620518
That has less to do with /v/ and more to do with the plummeting intelligence of gen z and late millennials.

>>382620437
>I'd tmrarher just get to know her.

What did he mean by this?

>>382620437
Well if you're completely new to GG, then suggesting a beginner character isn't bad advice. Especially if you're coming from Street Fighter and aren't used to Punch, Kick, L.Slash, H.Slash, Dust instead of LMH kick and LMH punch.

>>382620635
i guess I can understand that, but it seems like an insight you can only gain in looking back. if I'm sitting around bored as hell, and i have to choose between playing a fighting game and sitting around practicing vague theory and memorizing punishes, or just loading up any single player game and killing my boredom in an instant, its very hard to convince me to go with the former on the promise that eventually all my work will be rewarded.

>>382621102
Wasn't saying it was bad advice. I might be dismissing it, but I'm of the camp that if someone likes a character, to go with the character the mesh with. Same why I never just say go with Ryu or Ken. Sure they represent the games mechanics well, but I also find them boring.

Given how much GG does to teach you the game, what difference does it make to pick a character you like?

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>>382621281
That just means fighting games aren't for you, nothing wrong with that. Practicing is something I often have to "force myself" to do, but I'm only able to do it because I know the payoff will be far sweeter than anything else. A 100 hour JRPG can be satisfying to play, but I'd still trade that in for 1 really meaningful win at a tournament.

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>>382620635
It really just comes down to what you want from vidya at the end of the day. Some people find enjoyment out of very simple games with a low barrier of entry. Games where everything can be attained through several hours of play, they dont want to work for their accomplishments.

>>382621437
>want to play a game
>can't without spending thousands of hours practicing
>JUST PLAY SOMETHING ELSE LOL THEY AREN'T FOR YOU

>>382620848
Which is the majority of posters on /v/ nowadays.

>>382621498
The literal same can be said about any RPG ever.

>>382621498
Yes? There are always party games around, or games where you can do cool stuff by just mashing like in Tekken if you're playing at casual level. The biggest appeal of fighting games is the 1v1 aspect where one player comes out on top, this isn't hard to understand.

>>382608049
How to bait the FGC in one easy step

>>382621581
>>382621626
Retards. There are plenty of competitive games where you don't need to spend a year of your life practicing just to have fun and play on a level where you actually stand a chance.

>>382621751
Are you referring to team-based games? Becaues those have the "advantage" of being able to deflect every mistake or loss on someone else, or be able to get carried by someone else.

>>382621437
Plus when you're playing fighting games you're always actually playing, while in a 100 hour RPG, 80 of those hours is going to be farming, running from place to place, managing your inventory and other pointless bullshit. Yeah, I'd rather grind out in the training room than waste my time with that.

>>382621880
I'm referring to one on one matches in all sorts of multiplayer games. Fighting games are the only ones with such a high barrier for no real reason.

>>382622000
>one on one matches in all sorts of multiplayer games
like?

>>382622000
If you think other genres don't have a high barrier to entry, you've never played any of them against someone who actually knows how to play.

>>382621980
That's the thing, I give up on large scale games like fallout and skyrim all the time. Sure my load out gets better, but nothing feels rewarding and looking back, I feel like that's hours thrown away for no reason other than increasing arbitrary numbers. It's also assuming that "1000s of hours" in fighting games are spent in training. I've spent more hours in my lifetime of fighting games playing other people. Training makes up such a small number of that and it's usually only for warming up or learning a new character briefly.

Parrots will parrot though.

>>382622150
Shooters, puzzle games, sports games, etc

>>382622542
you're saying one on one shooters don't have a high barrier?

>>382622714
Not online against non-pros, no.

>>382620423
>Muh bantz
Literally just an excuse to give nigger behavior a pass. Call me when it's actual banter and not autistic screeching

>>382622896
You don't have to go to events if you don't want to. Like I said, I'm sure there are plenty of scenes for bitchmade faggots like yourself.

>>382622993
No need to get so defensive m8. Guess you really are a nigger

>>382622845
please use less negatives in your sentence
you're saying fighting games have a high barrier that no other game has?
do you think only shitters play games?

>>382623116
Guess again, not everyone is so thinskinned they can't even handle being around people because they're too loud.

>>382622845
If that's your standard, than fighting games don't either because if both people are button mashing then you can win by even slightly knowing what you're doing. You don't get to judge a game by people who don't actually know how to play it.

>>382623182
>Being confrontational, being a dick for no reason, and behaving like a child is being "too loud"
Nigger confirmed. Can't even see why people bitch about the fighting community.

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>>382623359
>y-you're a nigger!
Nice try, but you're not coming across as anything but a whiny faggot who's too much of a beta to handle himself around a scene with actual competitive people.
It's pretty obvious why people bitch about it; Because they can't handle something other than boringass esports bullshit and want to take the excitement out of things to make it more PC. Can't have all those ruffians getting into things when they could be silently clapping in the corner on cue.

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>>382623565
Noun[edit]
false dichotomy (plural false dichotomies)

A situation in which two alternative points of views are presented as the only options, whereas others are available.

You should really stop putting words in my mouth because not once have I said or implied I want what you're saying I wanted. Maybe if you applied yourself your father wouldn't have walked out on you as a kid.

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>>382623883
>has to pull out a fucking dictionary to pretend he has an argument
Not doing a good job of coming off as anything but a passive-aggressive faggot who can't handle the bantz. Maybe you'd be more suited for Smash, they have plenty of people like you.

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>>382607907
The girls are too lewd

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcyxFNuQlwo

i don't get you fags who think you have to spend a bunch of time to git gud at fightans.

1) find a character a literal chimp could play
2) figure out ez bnbs
3) play online and try to use your brain
4) btfo shitters because you think when you play, get bodied by competents because you yourself are still a shitter
5) git gud at the game and possibly graduate to a non-chimp character
6) beat competents

and you wanna know where the real fun is? step 5, retards. winning isn't jack shit until you struggle for it.

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>Playing against a Law online who is just mashing attacks without thought.
>Just 1, 2 him to death while adding some sweeps.

>>382624170
Fuck off Sol

>>382624332
Literally /v/

Reminder skullgirls exists

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>Play against a guy who's mashing with a noob friendly character
>You know the game better than him but don't know it well enough to punish mashing with the character you're trying to learn

>>382607907
They're boring and I've spent about 10 hours total in my life playing them.
Before my time, I suppose. It must be the same watching arcades die as I watched splitscreen die.

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>>382607907
I was thinking about buying blazblue central fiction on ps4. Is it dead? Will I find guaranteed matches online? I don't want to train and git gud for a dead game.
Same thing for Guilty gear.

>>382625693
Console BB is pretty active, there's always someone playing in either rooms or world lobby so you should be fine off.