How is anyone actually retarded enough to think that the PS1

Final Fantasy VII. That's all I have to say.

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>>382596879
>using a single shitty turn-based JRPG to argue against all of this god tier shit
Ponies never change.

Fifth gen in general is terrible and has aged incredibly poorly. Being the "winner" of that gen is winning a gold medal in the special olympics.

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>>382597105
>he hates the best gen in gaming history

>>382596807
>Including Shadows of the Empire but not Rogue Squadron and Podracer

>>382596807
>I know my own library well and leniently but I don't know the opposition's library and therefore I declare my opinion correct

>>382597194
Entire list is literally just from the top of my head, the fact I could even remember all of that shit goes to show how many amazing games there were on this system.

>>382596807
>Ocarina of Time

Overrated

>Majora's Mask
>Super Mario 64
>Banjo-Kazooie

Garbage

>Goldeneye

Mediocre FPS

>Shadows of the Empire

Shit sucks

>Mario Kart 64
>Mario Kart

>Diddy Kong Racing

More fucking cart racers

>Banjo-Tooie

Still shit

>Killer Instinct Gold

Fine I guess

>DOOM 64

Yeah sure

>Pokemon Stadium

You gotta be shitting me

>Paper Mario

Wow.

>Turok

Worse than mediocre FPS

>>382597259
>I know my own library well and leniently but I don't know the opposition's library and therefore I declare my opinion correct
Wrong faggot. I own a PS1, and I have played many PS1 games, even the hidden gem shit like Alundra, ERGHEIZ, etc. However, it simply isn't as good a console, not by any measure.

>>382597194
Maybe because Rogue Squadron and Racer were multiplats which OP very clearly stated he wouldn't include them.

>>382597379
Hahahahahahahahahahaha nice bait

>>382597174
>having an opinion this wrong
Some of the games on your list are barely playable today - Turok, for instance. Fourth gen and six gen are both infinitely better. In reality, fifth gen is the weakest and worst-aging generation in gaming history.

Maybe you're just nostalgic for it - that's fine. But please refrain from spreading incorrect statements like you're doing right now.

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>>382597379
>Majora's Mask, SM64 and Banjo-Kazooie are "garbage"
This is literally all you had to say for me to know that you are medically retarded.

>>382597174
Not even close. It was the jank generation, thanks to both consoles' first try at 3D. I'd neck myself if I was forced to play this generation for the rest of my life. PS2/Gamecube/Dreamcast is a far, far better pick.

>>382596807
Saturn and PS1 are both better than the N64,that's just a fact.

>>382597626
I wouldn't go that far. I'd just abandon consoles and play strictly PC games. And, hell, it isn't just the sixth gen, it's every previous and following gen. However, because it's sandwiched between arguably two of the strongest gens, it just makes it look even worse in comparison

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>>382596807
Nintendo hasn't made a single good game since the SNES, all the n64 gear where trash


Sony truly saved vidya during the 1990s

>>382597585
>Some of the games on your list are barely playable today
Casual identified. Games aging is a meme that only applies to gen Z spermlings that grew up with PS2. Every game on this list is still playable, and fun.

>Maybe you're just nostalgic for it - that's fine. But please refrain from spreading incorrect statements like you're doing right now.
It is not an "incorrect statement", your shitty opinion just doesn't agree with it.

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>>382597863
>one of the most highly rated games of all time was a "blunder"
>probably enjoys playing HZD so he can live out his fantasy of being a firecrotched woman and getting fucked by her black bull

>>382597867
>Games aging is a meme
You're right, in reality, games like Turok, for instance, were always shit. Even on a top of the line CRT using OEM hardware, you could still barely see in front of you in Turok. However, the casual marketplace opened wide and begged for 3D despite the home console market not being ready for it.

PC gaming was miles ahead of console gaming this gen that it's not even worth discussing the fifth gen when, objectively, it is sandwiched between two substantially stronger generations. What makes it even more laughable is that most of the franchises mentioned in the list had significantly stronger entries on the fourth generation consoles.

it has been nearly 20 years. twenty. and i have yet to see a shooter as good as perfect dark 64.
>excellent campaign
>multiplayer campaign
>unique multiplayer campaign game mode where your friend can take control of enemies and try to stop you
>lots of unlockable cheats
>customizable multiplayer avatars
>custimizable multiplayer game modes
>can single player multiplayer game modes against AI
>multiplayuer challenge modes
>dozens of unique weapons including every goldeneye weapon as unlockables

Are modern publishers even trying?

>>382596807
>Ocarina of Time
>Majora's Mask
They were alright, nothing special
>Super Mario 64
>Banjo-Kazooie
Spyro was better
>Goldeneye
>Perfect Dark
Nostalgia goggles really skew your memories.
>Wave Race
Racing games are a dime a dozen
>Yoshi's Story
Pretty good
>Shadows of the Empire
Shit game, and Star Wars games are a dime a dozen
>Conker's Bad Fur Day
Spyro and Crash were better.
>Star Fox 64
Star Fox again
>Donkey Kong 64
Spyro 3 was more well-designed
>Mario Kart 64
Crash Team Racing
>F-Zero GX
>Ogre Battle 64
>Blast Corps
>Diddy Kong Racing
Don't care
>Banjo-Tooie
See my thoughts on Banjo-Kazooie
>Killer Instinct Gold
Dime a dozen fighting game, Tekken is better
>Jet Force Gemini
>Space Station Silicon Valley
>Operation Winback
>Wetrix
>Tetrisphere
Literally who
>DOOM 64
Every console had Doom
>Aidyn Chronicles
>Forsaken
>Pilot Wings
Literally who
>Bomberman 64
Weak Bomberman game
>Goemon
Literal who
>Pokémon Stadium
Most Pokemon games are shit
>1080 Avalanche
Who cares
>Paper Mario
>Kirby 64
Alright
>Turok games
Many, many better FPS games

>>382598280
Agreed. IMO, PD is the greatest shooter ever made for the reasons you stated. Nothing even comes close to the insane number of customization options and attention to detail that this game had. Timesplitters tried to rekindle the magic but still couldn't top the king.

number of N64 games : 296
number of PSX games : over 2000

There's a reason Playstation got so many more games

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>>382598369
>he thinks Doom 64 is a port

>>382598523
Because its simplistic hardware led to boatloads of shovelware.

>>382598523
>There's a reason Playstation got so many more games
This is a terrible argument for a number of reasons.

First of all, the number of games a console has is a terrible metric of quality. Do you have any idea how many of those games are licensed movie games, arcade ports, shovelware of all kinds?

Moreover, what you probably don't know is that the N64 was purposely designed to be unattractive to developers, and I am not kidding. Yamauchi actually said that. Nintendo wanted to ensure that only serious developers would develop for the console to ensure high quality games, and thus, the ratio of good games on N64 is astronomically higher than that of the PS1.

>>382597867
Zelda - better on the SNES. However, 3D Zelda's have improved
SM64 - better on the SNES. In fact, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island still has not been topped by any Mario release. Not only that, but also weaker than SMB3.
Banjo - Rare's previous platform franchise on the SNES was, again, better
Goldeneye and PD - couldn't hold a candle to PC FPS games, in both campaign and multiplayer
Yoshi's Story - one of the worst platformers released by Nintendo, and doesn't even hold a candle to Super Mario World 2
Shadows of the Empire - Super Star Wars is, again, better

There's no point in going through the rest of the list because it's going to be more of the same. The fourth gen had better entries, and this isn't a point even worth holding a debate about, because if you unironically think the fifth gen was a good time for the home console market, you're objectively wrong. And nearly every franchise that continued into the sixth gen had better entries than the fifth gen as well. Wind Waker being substantially better than MM and OoT, for instance, or Sunshine shitting all over 64.

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>>382598821
>Sunshine shitting all over 64.

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>>382598369
>doesn't even know half of the games on the list, uses "don't care" as an argument and says Majora's Mask was "nothing special"
Autism.

>>382598886
Galaxy 1 and 2 are better as well. And so is Super Mario 3D World.

>>382597626
This guy gets it. Dreamcast and Gamecube are my most played consoles to this day. I still pop in Killer7 and Melee on my GC and Street Fighter 3rd Strike and Crazy Taxi with its godlike original soundtrack on my DC every once in a while.

>>382599213
>Galaxy 1 and 2 are better as well. And so is Super Mario 3D World.
Galaxy is comparable. Everything else, not even close.

Come on dude, fucking Wind Waker over Majora's Mask?

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>>382598787
>the N64 was purposely designed to be unattractive to developers, and I am not kidding. Yamauchi actually said that. Nintendo wanted to ensure that only serious developers would develop for the console to ensure high quality games

And you know what? No one gave a fuck. Make no mistake anon, Nintendo are just cunts. They are not always looking out for your best interest. In 1999 a team called "angel studios" wanted to bring a blockbuster money printing game called "Resident Evil 2" to the N64. Complete as the original with full FMV and voice acting. Want to know who were ZERO help in getting this track proven easy money game to the N64?? THAT RIGHT. NINTENDO.

>To further compound Angel Studios’ challenge, his team had to first convert the game’s code from the C it was written in for the Playstation to the Assembly language used for coding on the Nintendo 64. Surprisingly, Nintendo wasn’t all that helpful during the entire affair (something that many developers working on the platform complained about) as it reportedly refused to share its own in-house microcode tools with developers, and the basic tools available suffered from poor documentation and no provided debuggers

http://vr-zone.com/articles/one-gamings-forgotten-technical-achievements/77665.html

Everyone knew what a big deal Resident Evil 2 was, and Nintendo couldn't even bee arsed to be even slightly helpful to bring it to the N64

>>382596807
Mario 64
Golden Eye
Banjo
Wave Race
1080 snowboarding
Zelda
Turok
are the only good games. SNES was better console overall and the ps1 raped n64 with its games

>>382599496
>are the only good games
Wrong.

>and the ps1 raped n64 with its games
Yeah. Like Final Fantasy 7, and uhh, and uhh...

>>382599326
>Everything else, not even close.
Post your N64 set up with a timestamp.

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>>382599724
What exactly does that prove?

>Crash Bandicoot
>Crash 2
>Crash 3
>Twisted Metal
>Twisted Metal 2
>Twisted Metal 3
>CTR
>GTA 1
>GTA 2
>FF7
>Mega Man X4
>Mega Man X5
>Mega Man X6
>Doom
>Dino Crisis
>Dino Crisis 2
>SF3
>Parasite Eve
>Mega Man 8
>Wipeout
>Descent
>Pong in mother fucking 3D

Shit I can't think of anymore but I know there are a lot.

PS1 games:
Resident Evil 1-3, Survivor and Director's Cut
Silent Hill
Crash 1-3
Crash Team Racing
Spyro 1-3
FFVII-IX and side games
Chrono Cross
MGS and VR Missions
Castlevania SotN
Tekken games
Legacy of Kain
Legend of Dragoon
Xenogears
Parasite Eve
Dino Crisis
Suikoden II
Street Fighter games
Parappa
Oddworld
Dragon Quest VII
Pepsiman
Star Ocean
GTA 1 and 2
Silent Bomber
LSD
Jade Cocoon
Klonoa
Megaman games
Persona 2
Tomba
Star Ocean
Super Puzzle Fighter
Policenauts and Snatcher (import)
Vib Ribbon
Die Hard Trilogy

>>382599612
>and uh...

Rayman
Abes oddysee
Abes exoduss
Metal gear solid
Silent hill
Tekken 2-3
Resident Evil 1 & 3
Medievil 1& 2
Spyro 1-3
Crash 1-3

Holy shit it isn't even funny.

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>>382598198
Nobody gives a fuck about irrelevant pc garbage.

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>>382600042
Lol... 10 games/series. 3 of which are 2D platformers, 2 of which are survival horror, and the rest are 3D platformers aside from Tekken and MGS.

Wow, riveting.

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>>382599951
>literally an entire list of nothing but turn-based JRPGs and knockoff platformers

>>382596807

Dino Crisis 2, ALIEN Resurrection, Metal Gear Solid.

I hate Sony but the PS1 was better.

>>382599853
That very few people actually liked the N64 enough to keep the system. Playing SMB3 or SMW2: YI showcases top tier fluidity in a platforming game. Comparatively, Sunshine also showed the first time that a 3D platformer mastered player fluidity, from significantly better camera angles to sheer movement abilities via FLUDD and the analog triggers that wasn't present on SM64, but was present in SMW2 with the ability to manipulate Yoshi's movement, or the cape in SMW.

In the third and fourth generation entries in the Mario series, you actually had control over your character. In the sixth generation, Nintendo, for the first time, allowed you that amount of freedom in 3D. Because of this, I'm willing to wager that most people willing to discuss retro vidya are more likely to have a SNES or a GC over an N64, because both consoles are objectively better with objectively better entries in the top franchises.

>>382600441
>That very few people actually liked the N64 enough to keep the system.
Yeah, no. The N64 is literally the #1 most popular retro console and I don't know a single person who had an N64 as a kid that doesn't still have theirs.

So if I post my collection, are you going to admit that it was a great console?

>>382600214
Gran Turismo
Tomba
FF
Symphony of the night
Syphon FIlter
Tomb Raider
Vagran Story
Soul Reaper
Xenogears
Tony Hawk
Parasite Eve
Dino Crisis
Vigilante
PS1 raped n64 aka 5 good games console

>>382600327
>JRPGs Listed
12, including FFVII VIII and IX
>Platformers
11, with things like Crash 1-3 listed
>Total games
54
11+12 = 23
54 - 23 = 31
Not even half
Also, nice meme picture, I'm sure your ten followers on Instagram find you funny

>>382600585
>are you going to admit that it was a great console?
Quick - name 3 SM64 romhacks that are comparable to SMW romhacks such as Kaizo World 1, 2, or 3, Dram World, Panga World, Ryu World, etc.

If the console was great, surely the games themselves were great as well, correct? So, surely, a great game with great physics would have a gigantic collection of romhacks. That is, assuming the game is actually a polished entry in the series with enough enemy variety and enough fluidity to allow for romhacks.

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>>382600214
So basically, your personal opinion then? Look i have an N64 too anon, and the first party games they have are often fantastic, but i hate to see fellow N64 fags act like revisionist pricks. The PlayStation line up was fucking fantastic. To deny that those games were brilliant offhand, just makes you as bad as the kind of pricks that would dismiss out SM64 and OOT as shit just to be contrarian.

>>382597418
shadows is also a multiplat

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>>382600928
>this faggot just did math to counter hyperbole
So this is the power of the pony.

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>>382600979
>Quick - name 3 SM64 romhacks that are comparable to SMW romhacks such as Kaizo World 1, 2, or 3, Dram World, Panga World, Ryu World, etc.
Yeah, okay, this is meaningless shit and I don't even know why you're bringing this up. Nobody plays fucking ROM hacks other than literal autists and using the number of ROM hacks a game has as a metric of quality is the most bizarrely retarded thing I've ever heard.

Don't move goalposts. You said you wanted me to post a pic of my collection, if you aren't willing to offer an incentive for me to do so, why would I do it? Why ask me to do it if it doesn't prove anything? Like I said, I'll gladly post my collection if you are willing to admit that it was a great console when I do.

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>>382601179
>doesn't understand hyperbole
>literally proceeds to manually count the number of games in his list by genre
You do not get to call anyone else retarded.

>Nin10yearolds only have a few first party platformers and a few third party games to choose from
>PSbros have thousands of first party and third party games to choose from covering every genre

hmmmmm really makes you think

>>382601515
>only a few games on the list are platformers, and more than half of them aren't first party
>doesn't realize that the "thousands" of games are literal shovelware and movie games
>hmmmmm really makes you think
It makes me think you're retarded.

>>382601393
>Nobody plays fucking ROM hacks other than literal autists and using the number of ROM hacks a game has as a metric of quality is the most bizarrely retarded thing I've ever heard.
>he somehow missed the release of Super Mario Maker

>Yeah, okay, this is meaningless shit
>he thinks that the quality of the game's engine isn't directly related to the quality of the game

Face it, the reason there are no notable SM64 romhacks are because the engine is fucking terrible, and the people who actually play retro games are more interested in playing games on a solid engine, with SMB3 and SMW being the usual go-to choices. And, again, I'll reiterate that this is what makes Sunshine an objectively better game than 64, because you had significantly more control over Mario thanks to FLUDD and the analog triggers and had significantly better camera angles

If SM64 and the N64 was actually good and relevant like you faggots want it to be, people would be playing homebrew variants to this day. Yet... it doesn't happen.

>>382601514
You're saying my list is 'literally' JRPGs and platformers. That at the very list implies that majority of the games are of those two genres. After I proved they weren't you just said they were hyperbole, AKA, you were just pretending to be autistic.
Next you'll say I wrote an essay because you can't read

>>382601932
>he thinks using "literally" on 4chan actually means literally
Okay newfag, we get it, you're retarded.

>>382602089
I don't think it means literally, but I would hope you at least got majority of the games.
You're just arguing semantics because you have no argument

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>>382601846
Okay, look dude, there's really no point in having this discussion. First you asked me to post a pic of my collection, which I would do, but you refuse to admit you are wrong if I do so, so it proves nothing. Then, I call you out on it, so you just keep moving goalposts and ignoring your original request, and now you're making this retarded argument that if a small minority of neckbeards doesn't want to make romhacks for one of the most popular games ever made, the game must suck, all while neglecting to realize that there are actually ROM hacks and homebrew anyway.

Then, you start babbling about "sunshine being superior" because of fucking FLUDD and analog triggers, while ignoring the tons of abysmally terrible aspects like the 1 single environment design, the shitty hub world, the shitty music, the shitty FMV sequences, the lack of powerups, the terrible camera angles that get stuck on walls and the overall terrible gameplay. I'm not sure what kind of autism you're suffering from but I can't argue with it anymore.

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>>382602293
>I don't think it means literally
>You're saying my list is 'literally' JRPGs and platformers. That at the very list implies that majority of the games are of those two genres
Way to blow your load in your own ass.

My argument was stated in the OP, and it is this: the N64 has more high-quality games, it has more highly-rated games, and it has more variety in genres and gameplay. Your list consists of: turn based JRPGs, platformers that are inferior to Mario and Banjo, decrepit sidescrollers, a few action-adventure games that are inferior to Zelda in every way, and a few arcade port fighting games. There you go. No hyperbole. Just your weak list that doesn't hold a candle to half of what's on the N64.

>>382596807
This post is hilarious, because that's pretty much every game for that fucking thing.

The PS1/PS2 library literally fucking destroy any other console library in the history of ever.

>>382596807
I vehemently hate Sony and everything Playstation but you would have to be a fool to believe the N64 library was superior to that of the PSX which was essentially a SNES 2.0 minus the Nintendo software. PSX had a much larger quantity of games and even though the quality to shit ratio was much higher there were still more quality games on the PSX than the comparatively smaller library of the N64. Don't get me wrong, N64 was worth owning for Mario 64 and Zelda OOT alone but PSX had an objectively better library

>>382603410
>This post is hilarious, because that's pretty much every game for that fucking thing.
Half of this list shits on the entirety of the PS1's 2000 games which are composed of arcade ports, weeb shit and shovelware. 90% of games on the PS1 have aged like semen and not one single game outside of MAYBE FF7 had any kind of discernable impact on the industry, whereas SM64 by itself literally bitchslapped Sony so hard that they ended up emulating its design with every signle 3D platformer that ever came out for the system and caused them to hurriedly add analog sticks to their controller. You are retarded and your opinion is shit.

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>>382603663
>objectively better library
>JRPGs
>arcade ports
Woohoo.

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>>382603272
Nice nostalgia goggles. Only reason games on the N64 are rated high are because now you'd be crucified by normies for talking shit about Goldeneye or OoT, despite the former being borderline unplayable now and the latter being the weakest of all 3D Zeldas with the sole exception of Skyward Sword
With multiplats, the N64 always got the worst version and Nintendo would never help with porting. See Resident Evil 2 as a previous anon posted and I know from experience is trash in comparison to every other version with the exception of the Game.com port. It lacks majority of the extra modes, all its FMVs are compressed to hell, the game just looks like shit, and the only thing it adds that are of some value are the EX files.
The PS1 had games that actually aged well, and had the best of the survival horror niche genre. It also had majority of the best JRPGs, fighting games (on console), racing games, and Spyro is better than every platformer you listed

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>>382603853
>thinks Wind Waker and Twilight Princess are better than OoT
>thinks Spyro is better than Banjo
Why am I even arguing with this retard.

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>>382603791
>muh jrpgs and arcade ports meme
At least the PS1 could handle porting games and JRPGs and wouldn't break down if you tried to play anything more straining than SM64
Every game on the N64 aged like shit due to console limitations, software limitations and shitty controller design. You're nostalgia blind and are trying to justify overspending on shit games you can emulate on anything made past the turn of the century

>>382604071
>can't refute any points
>h-ha you're wrong!11!!11
>watch me not prove you wrong
Spyro was more well designed than Banjo, as well as just being a better game in terms of gameplay. Banjo is slower and floaty, while Spyro is fast and tight.
Also, WW and TP are better than OoT. WW had character and TP was just OoT with more Zelda involvement and a shitty tutorial

>>382600824
N64 had Tony Hawk too lad

>>382601514
that was cool how you used "literally" in an ironic fashion back there

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>>382604160
>At least the PS1 could handle porting games and JRPGs and wouldn't break down if you tried to play anything more straining than SM64
Lmao what the fuck is this? Break down? You just described the PS1, which would fucking implode if you tried running SM64 on it -- a launch game. Majora's Mask and Perfect Dark look better than many early PS2 games. You are a complete fucking retard and you can't even begin to see it.

>Every game on the N64 aged like shit due to console limitations, software limitations and shitty controller design
Again, you're describing the PS1, where most games don't even have analog support, 2 minute loading screens and graphics that will give you testicular cancer. If you don't like the controller, fine, that's a valid opinion, but it's entirely subjective and everything else you just said is objectively incorrect on any comparable basis.

>You're nostalgia blind and are trying to justify overspending on shit games you can emulate on anything made past the turn of the century
It's called an Everdrive bud.

>>382596807
Saturn had a better library than the N64.

>>382604353
I've already refuted everything you've said. I've just reached the point where I see the futility in trying to argue with someone operating on sub-autism levels of consciousness.

With that being said, I will address this one nagging bit:
>TP was just OoT with more Zelda involvement and a shitty tutorial
This is blatantly retarded and you should feel bad about yourself for posting this. Half the amount of side content, shitty wolf segments, no magic, no extra weapons/shields, no songs, almost no hidden secrets, barren overworld, shitty minigames and inferior dungeon design is not "just like OoT".

>>382603272
nintentoddlers everyone
>omg I can't believe you did basic math to refute my argument what a fag
You "literally" made an entire thread to to kick a 20 year old console war corpse, you fucking clown. I'm sorry you were born in '98 and didn't get in on any good dial-up internet fights, can you please fuck off now?

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>>382604637
>Majora's Mask and Perfect Dark look better than many early PS2 games
What are MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Jak and Daxter, DMC, Ico and FFX? They were games released in the PS2's first year.
You're nostalgia blind if you really think stretched textures and empty worlds look better than SH2 and DMC
>graphics that will give you testicular cancer
You're describing the N64. Have you ever tried replaying N64 games natively? They look like absolute ass on anything that isn't a CRT and still look like shit. At least I can play my PS1 games on a flat screen and have them look semi-decent.
Also, the only games that really needed analog support were platformers, and they eventually got that while d-pad only games still felt alright with D-pad.
And the only reason the N64 had faster loading screens was because it still used cartridges, which is also why it didn't get ports of game Saturn and PS1 got, and when it did, they were objectively the worst versions. I would rather have slightly longer loading screens than to have games that will never age well.
>It's called an Everdrive bud
So you autistically blew money on a console you bought no games for? You just emulate games on it? Literally any computer made after 2001 can play N64 games

>>382605067
>can't refute any of my points
>y-you're just autistic!
Nice meme retard, maybe mommy will get you a real argument for your birthday

The PS1 beat the N64 so badly nintendo fans are still mad.

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Also variety, OP.

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>My mom never bought me a Playstation therefore its library sucked
ok

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>>382606080

>>382605457
>What are MGS2, Silent Hill 2, Jak and Daxter, DMC, Ico and FFX? They were games released in the PS2's first year.
Are you actually retarded or something? I didn't say the N64 looked better than the PS2 dipshit, I said that some of the later games, like Majora's Mask, looked better than some of the early titles. You're just cherrypicking the best looking games from the PS2's first year to diminish the fact that the end-gen N64 games looked great.

>You're describing the N64. Have you ever tried replaying N64 games natively? They look like absolute ass on anything that isn't a CRT and still look like shit. At least I can play my PS1 games on a flat screen and have them look semi-decent.
First off, why the fuck would you be playing any kind of older system if you don't own a CRT? Major normie filter right here. Secondly, you can keep pretending, but PS1 games look like a hot pixelated mass of diarrhea. Games like SM64 and Yoshi's Story still look good to this day.

>And the only reason the N64 had faster loading screens was because it still used cartridges, which is also why it didn't get ports of game Saturn and PS1 got, and when it did, they were objectively the worst versions.
Lmao yeah, like the 2-player only version of Gauntlet Legends or the port of Rayman 2 with less levels and worse graphics. You're just talking out of your ass at this point. N64 almost always got the best ports aside from a few exceptions.

>So you autistically blew money on a console you bought no games for?
Lmao you dumb faggot. Everdrive is just a way to play game ROMs on original hardware because N64 emulation is absolute dirt and you'd know that if you had any idea what you were talking about. Also, $100 is fucking chump change, if you think spending $100 to have access to every N64 game ever made and not having to deal with shit emulation is "blowing money", you aren't a real gamer and you must live on macaroni and Wal-Mart water.

>>382596807
I won't even start at perspective correction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqw2HMUrNiA

>>382606195
wish I had a better image

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Playstation_1

>>382596807
If Mario 64 were done on PSX:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuH7RDIDZN4

>>382606793
Sadly it would be even worse than that.

>>382596807
Shadows of the Empire and Turok 1 and 2 were on the PC too.

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>>382606341
I didn't cherry pick, those were popular games from the first year of the PS2, you just have your nostalgia goggles on and think shit like Majora's Mask look better than some PS2 games, when the only games it'd look better than are games that the developer clearly didn't care about, that never used a fraction of the PS2 hardware, meanwhile MM required extra hardware to run on the N64.
>end-gen N64 games looked great
By forcing you to buy a $60 attachment
>why the fuck would you be playing any kind of older system if you don't own a CRT
Because I'm not an autist that owns more than one TV. I just emulate my games, I only keep shit like MGS1 and Resi 2 on N64 around for collecting purposes
>Games like SM64 and Yoshi's Story still look good to this day
That's because they used a variety of colours, and mostly Nintendo in-house developed games did this for some reason, which is why shit like Goldeneye didn't age well. Also, the draw distance on N64 games is a major setback when enemies pop out of nowhere and disappear.
> N64 almost always got the best ports aside from a few exceptions.
No it didn't. Nearly every PC to N64 port was dogshit, as was nearly every PS1-N64 port. Cartridges allowed less space, and the hardware wasn't up to par in some ways, and there are only a few exceptions of PS1 having the inferior port.
>because N64 emulation is absolute dirt and you'd know that if you had any idea what you were talking about
I played Majora's Mask a few nights ago on my PC and ran into no issues. You're just talking out of your ass
>if you think spending $100 to have access to every N64 game ever made and not having to deal with shit emulation is "blowing money"
Yes, I do think that. With $100 I could buy games that are actually good, like Resident Evil 1 for the Sega Saturn
>you aren't a real gamer
Yes, because a real gamer buys emulators and roms instead of getting them for free. How does one delude themselve this much to think that buying roms isa goodidea

>>382606793
I really don't see the issue other than blurrier textures and text. Also, the weird stretching at the bottom wouldn't happen if PS1 platformers of a similar nature like Spyro are anything to go by

>>382596807
Add the wrestling games to that wonderful list anon.

Why not like them both? Playstation had great games and so did the n64.

N64 was one of the best party systems ever made.

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>>382606793
>>382607014
sure

PS1 had a better variety of games.

N64 had more amazing games, but PS1 had more great titles. The best PS1 game isn't as good as probably three to five of the best N64 games, but PS1 had awesome stuff like FF Tactics and Monster Hunter 2. PS1 also has a l ot of deep dive classics.

Stop being faggots and arguing over which hunk of plastic is better, it's all about the games.

>>382608402
> I'm playing on emulator with perspective correction

>>382608026
It happens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOASkImiNeU

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>>382600979
>Game X is better than Y because Romhacks.
Anon, what kind of logic is that?

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PS1 had a bigger library of iconic games and a bigger library total. But for every good PS1 game, there's 20 shovelware games. PS1 probably has the highest shovelware to good game ratio, besides maybe the PS2 or the Wii.
N64 had a far smaller library, but also had far less percentage of shovelware. So that's why it's so fondly remembered. People are willing to ignore a small library if only 10% (or less) of it is shovelware.
The Saturn gets a lot of shit for being a huge blunder, but it actually had way more games than the N64. It's just that 70% of it's library was exclusive to Japan and never got localized. But even the games that were local were fantastic. It upsets me that the Saturn doesn't get more love

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>>382601846
Autism.
>>382606080
>If you want to emulate Playstation games, the best emulator to use is epsxe.

>>382608763
>N64 had more amazing games, but the PS1 had more great titles
What did he mean by this?
No, seriously. Are you saying that the N64 had less total classic games, but the classics it did have are better than the PS1's classics?

N64: Better First-Party
PS1: Better Third-Party.

>>382596807
Only like 4 of those are great games. The N64 had more over rated games than any other system in history.

Meanwhile the PS1 had Final Fantasy 7 and 9, Metal Gear Solid, Symphony of the Night, Policenaughts, Silent Hill, Crash 2, Spyro 2, Legacy of Kain, Xenogears, FF Tactics, Suikoden 2, Resident Evil 3, Oddworld, Grandia etc.

You've probably never played half of those because it sounds like you're s nintendo fanboy, but as someone who grew up with a N64, I can definitively say the ps1 had the superior library by a large margin.

>>382596807
Shut up fanboy.

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As someone who loves the 64. You're overhyping it dude. Its got some really great games, but the problem is that it only has those. N64 had about 12 really well known and loved games, most of which were Nintendo Ips, others being Rare third party titles. Where as PS1 just had that much more open variety for other audiences.

I like 64 dude, but come on. OoT doesnt suddenly give it a pass.

>>382611645
You could have literally just written:
Nintendo: better first party
Sony: better third party

That has remained constant for the last 4 gens.

>>382604160
>Every game on the N64 aged like shit due to console limitations, software limitations and shitty controller design
Look anon, if you're trying to imply that non-2D games on the PS1 library didn't age worse I don't know what to say. PS1/N64 low poly era is the worst and PS1 graphics are objectively shittier for the most part even if they did often have better textures and weren't blurry. It's the lack of perspective correction that's killer for PS1 games causing every single object to have Parkinson's disease. The PSX had an objectively better library than the N64 for the time but there is hardly any reason to play those games today (except for SOTN and JRPGs) because they have had superior sequels. N64 doesn't have this problem. In 2017 the vast majority of the PSX library is objectively unplayable garbage while Mario 64 and OoT are still at least worth playing.

>>382596807
The PS1 had a metric shitton of 7-8 out of 10's to compliment the best games it had.
Once you get past the go-to N64 list and explore the rest of the library it dries up fast.

And besides:

FF7, 8, and 9
FF Tactics
Parasite Eve
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Xenogears
Brave Fencer Musashi
Resi 1,2, and 3
Dino Crisis 1 and 2
MGS1
Crash 1, 2, and 3
Crash Team Racing
Spyro 1, 2, and 3
SotN
Breath of Fire 3 and 4
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Twisted Metal 1, 2, and 3

Let me thin out that heavily padded list for you OP:
Mario 64
Banjo
Star Fox
Goemon
Paper Mario
Zelda (to be honest I don't even really like zelda games by ill acknowledge them anyway)

Sin and punishment was also good.

>>382612032
I refuse soley because Ratchet and Sly exist.
Everything else is correct.

>>382596807
>No mischief makers

Wow OP, way to out your shit taste.

>>382612065
>no reason to play a game if the sequels are better
Now THIS is a shot tier millennial opinion if ever I've seen one.
>it's not worth playing MGS1, Resident Evil 1-3, Soul Reaver, Silent Hill etc because the sequels were better

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>>382596807
arcade > PC > emulators inc. >>> SNES > Ps2 > Neo-Geo > Dreamcast >> X360 > Genesis > N64 > GC > XB ≈ Ps3 > 3DO... the rest

>objectively speaking
>on merit
>opaque, fantard welding goggles removed
>as it will be read in the annuls of history

>>382612437
Ratchet and sly are both pretty fun 8/10 series (although recent ratchet games were kinda dry due to a lack of innovation).

Doesn't really compare to the Nintendo first and second party library. That said, I think PlayStation consoles have had the better library on the whole in every single generation. Only place Nintendo beats them is on handhelds.

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>PS1 had SMT II, Persona 1 and 2 and IF
>Nintendo 64 has none
>PS2 had DDS1/2, Nocturne, Raidou, Persona 3 and 4
>Gamecube had none

Its pretty clear who the winner was.

>>382612593
Most over rated game in existence

>>382612960
>360 that high
Nope.

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>>382613159
>A fun 2D platformer with treasure grade arcade and SHMUP levels is somehow "Overated" to the 3D bad camera shlock known as Zelda: Ocarina of time

BUT ITS OKAY CAUSE ITS NINTENDO!

>>382612960
>fantard goggles removed
>arcade as the best
Nope. Arcades are cool and all but there's a reason they completely died out in the west. I live in nipland and arcades get old fast. They smell like cigarettes, are noisy as fuck from all the games playing their music simultaneously, and having to play a dollar for every single play is way more Jewish than any modern dlc practice.

Only good for rhythm games and fighting games and literally nothing else.

>>382613316
I don't like OoT much either, but it's still a better game than Mischief Makers which is like a 5/10 at best and one of Treasures worst games.

>>382597379
hello I am Nintendo fan your words have made me the angry you are the good troll bro

>>382597105

This. I found myself going back to 4th gen games frequently during that time. It was just more fun to play games like Super Mario World and DKC.

>>382596879
Paper Mario is the better RPG

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>>382596807
Did you actually put forsaken on that list?? Holy fuck buddy youre out to lunch

>>382614362
You post reaction images, but you know why the FFVII remake is taking so long right? Square realizes it's going to tank the legacy of their "greatest rpg ever" with how stale the mechanics and how thin the plot actually is.
Gamers in the middle 90s were simply starved for something "gritty" and "anime". The mechanics certainly aren't best. Almost any FF before besides maybe II plays tighter.
Final Fantasy is the great pretender of RPGs. It won't have any impact on a future generation of gamers, passed the one it already influenced.
Any time someone talks about VII they have to add "well, in context" before they deliver their praise.

Paper Mario will stand the test of time my friend.