which one?

Dreamcast

Unless you enjoy first party titles by Nintendo, PS1 had far more to offer. Sure it was mainly a Squaresoft machine, but Final Fantasy was a massive series at one time.

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>>382564484
PS1 hands down. Resident Evil Director's Cut, 2, 3, Survivor. Crash Bandicoot 1/2/3/kart racing. Final Fantasy, Croc 1/2, Twisted Metal

Meanwhile the only note worthy games I can think of for the Nintendo 64 is Mario 64, Starfox, Banjo Kazooie, and Zelda

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>>382564765

I had both. Perks of living in a multi-sibling household.

Back then, buying multiple consoles for the exclusives was more justifiable. They weren't always priced like high-end computers, and the games were pretty revolutionary for their time. Nowadays exclusives are just shitty rehashes with better graphics.

PS1 games, hands down.

Emulated PS1 > N64 > real PS1 for graphics.

>>382564484
graphics? n64
games? n64
audio? ps1

please don't drag console wars into old systems

>>382564484
PS1.

>>382565280
graphics? ps1
games? ps1
audio? ps1

>>382565280
It's most interesting for old systems, the hardware and kinds of games were completely different back then. You couldn't make MGS on the N64 any more than you could make Banjo Kazooie on the PS1.

>>382564484
PS1 no contest

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>>382565280
>implying console wars weren't born out of old systems

Modern console wars are a joke, largely because of what >>382565016 >>382565489 already mentioned.

>>382565479
>graphics? ps1
lmao

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>>382565479
>t-the warping looks cool!
games on ps1 were okay but overall n64 and even saturn had cooler ones.

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>>382565479

>>382565489
>You couldn't make MGS on the N64 any more than you could make Banjo Kazooie on the PS1.

PS1 had platformers set in large worlds as well. Spyro was like this. Although the stages were accessed from hubs, not one big interconnected world. Some games did manage interconnected worlds thought. They just masked load times with long corridors a la King's Field.

>>382566031
anon, I think he meant that unlike today, the hardware between systems was largely incompatible and massive rewrites were needed to port games.

PS1 by a long shot, N64 ran on Nintendo first party stuff and in fairness a lot of that stuff was really good.

I had an N64 and emulated PS1 games on my Pentium 3 pc

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>>382566028

You're posting the worst example of the TR engine. Later games improved it dramatically. They even gave Lara a movable ponytail. (Although the resources needed to animate that probably could have been put to better use)

>>382566031

Spyro was probably the most open PS1 platformer but even that didn't have the broad scope or interactivity of Banjo. Or even SM64.

>>382566161
>the hardware between systems was largely incompatible and massive rewrites were needed to port games

There were several multiplats back then. They just out-sourced one or more platform versions to other studios.

>>382566528
And multiplats were all radically different. Just look at Rayman 2 or all the different Doom ports.

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>>382566161

>arcade
>N64
>PS1
>Dreamcast

>>382564484
What do you think

>Go to friends house
>Oh cool a playstation
>Show me X game

>Uh it doesnt run anymore its scratched

>Show me Y game

>Uh ok but I lost my memory card

>Show me Z game

>LOADING

>>382566667
>And multiplats were all radically different.

So? I'm not sure what this has to do with the original point you were making. Some ports were for better or worse, but it's not like one system had the "best" versions of all multiplats available.

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>>382566528
jesus christ anon, go ahead and compare quake on N64 and saturn, or Quake II on n64 and PS1. they all look completely different, and none of them actually use the REAL quake engine. do you just not understand how ports worked back in the day? games were made specifically for the custom software present in each console meaning that A LOT needed to be changed in order to get the same game running on foreign hardware. it wasn't like it is today kiddo. quake on saturn is a great example of this, read up on it if you haven't already

>>382566995
made specifically for the custom hardware*

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>>382564484
I have the best memories with the N64, mainly for its vastly superior multiplayer offerings. Goldeneye, Starfox, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Pokemon and the WCW/WWF games (that to this day have never been surpassed in quality) supplied endless hours of entertainment.

>>382566849
Exactly, that's why it's so interesting. The different pieces of hardware actually had different strengths, and the games each platform could play well were different. Having a different console actually meant something.

>>382564484

PS1 had more good games, N64 had better great games, simple as that.

For me, it's the McChicken

>>382566828
>Go to friends house
>Oh cool a Nintendo 64
>Show me X game

>He only has one game because N64 games are like $90 a pop

>>382565756
>>382565786

I had an n64 growing up and its easily the most fun I've had with a console, but the non-floating point vertices is cancelled out by the over use of blurry texture filtering on the N64.

>>382567674
at least it can map the texture to a polygon without warping it.

>>382564484
I'm not a poor faggot so I'll have both

>>382567763
literally this. it's extremely pathetic to get heated over 300 year old consoles

>>382567459
Is that australian prices? MSRP for US was $50

Also the Playstation won't read disks upside down, shut up ausfag.

>>382567459
>He only has one game because N64 games are like $90 a pop

Rentals were still a thing back then. I think the only game I actually owned was Smash Bros.

>>382564484
When I was a kid and had other kids coming over all the time, N64 easily.

Now that I'm older and any friends who still play vidya at all only grind in WoW and MOBAs or Smash, PlayStation.

>>382564484
Love both. Owned both since release. With that said... it's the 64 for me.

>>382568117
Autismo 3,000 over there was probably getting scammed for 40 bucks. regular price was like 50 and not to mention the discount rack you could find in the movie rental places!!

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this is a better versus

>>382564902
Paper Mario, Bomberman 64 and The Second Attack, Bomberman Hero, Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, F-Zero X, Kirby 64, Perfect Dark, the arguably better version of Mega Man Legends, Mischief Makers, and if you're willing to import, both Custom Robos and Sin & Punishment

>>382568957
both.

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>>382564484
It's pretty obvious that the PS1 objectively won that gen.

Now THIS is a real debate.

>>382568957
N64 vs Saturn is such a weird comparison, PS1 vs Saturn makes more sense to me.

>>382564902
>the only

but anon, every game you posted for the n64 is better than every game you posted for the ps1.

>>382569114
SNES won but Genesis put up a good fight.

>>382569114
Genesis is better

>>382569114
>>382569092

>>382568957
They're so different it's not even funny.

If you like fighters, shmups, puzzles, japanese-style adventure / simulation games
>Saturn

If you like 3D platformers, first-person shooters, party games, 3D racing games
>N64

>>382569114
SNES had some classics I wouldn't want to miss but Genesis was so cool. There hasn't really been anything like it since.

>>382569114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktoYbyzBM0s

SNES wins

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>>382569114
>you will NEVER see sega and nintendo in their prime going head to head ever again

>>382569114
>SNES x Genesis?
They're roughly equals.
>SNES / SFC x Genesis / MD?
SNES / SFC, much more hidden gems from Japan
>SNES / SFC x Genesis / (+CD / 32X)?
Again, fairly comparable.

>>382569114
The 64 was better. And no this one isn't up for debate. The Genesis is a 10/10 system but the SNES is the greatest system in all of history and that's fact.

>>382568968
The problem is even though you can name worthwhile N64 games, you go into barrel scraping quickly or the games are shadowed by dozens of PSX games.

I can see why he didnt remember Paper Mario against PS1's RPG collection

Bomberman 64 has great multiplayer but the singleplayer has barebones levels and only the bosses and hidden content are decent. Was never a fan of second attack because of how autistic fan fiction it felt but I guess it was better. Hero is just a totally average action game.

Mario Kart 64 sucks compared to CTR. And Diddy Kong racing is worse than mario kart.

Never played Blast Corps and JFG thanks to my rental store and poorly coded N64 emulator.

F-Zero X is the best F-zero game. But PSX has so many racing games.

Kirby 64 is good enough and Perfect Dark is fucking amazing when bad controls and low framerate were overlooked back in the day. Same with goldeneye.

Mischief Makers is a catch like bomberman 64. The boss fights are amazing, and although the levels and game design are interesting, they just weren't fun. Ugly as piss too.

>>382569573
Why did Nintendo's ideologies become so stuck-up that they fell to the secondary system status anyways? Is Wii combined with lesser success of GC and N64 all there is to their current thinking that they have to have a radical new weird idea to succeed instead of trying to follow what gamers want?

PS1. Nintendo alone couldn't compete against Konami, Square, and Capcom in their prime.

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>>382564484
for gameplay and multiplayer the N64 (Goldeneye, Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Mario Kart etc.)
for waifus and story the PS1 (Resident Evil, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy etc.)

>>382569114
SNES won but the Genesis deserved it more. SNES's library was entirely platformers and turn-based rpgs.

>>382564484
I can't pick one, sorry. The one thing that I'll say is that 3D N64 games have aged a lot better that ps1's despite the low framerate

>>382572102
>Konami, Square, and Capcom in their prime.

Wrong generation. Their prime was 16 bit.

>>382564484
defintely ps1
all n64 had was smash brothers

>>382570715
Honestly I'm just so damn interested in this graph after PS2 that I didn't even read the bait text

That gen had 6191 games

I'm surprised the DC had more games than the GC despite being retailed for 3 years

But the Wii/PS3/360 gen only had 2938 games

That's especially weird when the Wii is a perfect shovelware machine because of last gen hardware and a consumer base that has low expectations. The PS2 sold around 33% more than the Wii but it had over 3 times the games. The PS1 sold about the same as the Wii yet had twice the games.

Also both the PS1 and PS2 don't have a reputation for shovelware despite dwarfing the wii in game count.

Why are less games made /v/?

>>382572738
>Why are less games made /v/?
because you arent counting pc games

>>382568968
Golden eye,perfect dark,Etc.The N64 would have been god like if it wasn't for those damm cartagides.

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>>382566316
I think lots of PS1 games have good artstyle which makes those games aesthetically pleasing, but "technically" the console can't touch N64. I think that's fairly obvious from the specs, cartridges aside.

>>382569114
Snes won because 4 buttons and not 3 like the genesis

>>382573149
>if it wasn't for those damm cartagides.

what did the pleb mean by this?

>>382573476
Cartridges were too expensive, both for developers and consumers.

>>382564484
I had every 5th and 6th gen console when they were out. PS1 was by far the king of that generation. 64 was good for Zelda and Mario, PS1 had so much more.

>>382573476
Pretty sure he meant cartridges

PS1

it had games

>>382573672
Dumb ass

>>382573701
N64 it had quality games

>>382573761
ok

>>382573654
That's ok, it just means that they're more collectible and needed to be higher quality games to make profit. That's why all the aaa titles on the system shit on everything the ps1 had.

>>382573764
Disregard that, I suck cocks

All ps1 had was finak fantasy and crash.Nintendo had rare and there IP's along with other 3parties

>>382564484
It was a bad decision now that I look back on it, but when I was a little kid I disregarded the PS1 because I didn't want to deal with loading times in my videogames.

>>382572738
Because of increased development costs.
During 6th gen you could make an impressive game for a million dollars. 12 months * 30 employees @ $3000/month is about that much.

>>382574121
It's a good decision. Now you get to play them with no loading times and graphics which don't look or run prohibitively badly.

>>382573902
>That's ok, it just means that they're more collectible

Said the manchild with a chocolate milk mustache in his mom's basement.

>and needed to be higher quality games to make profit. That's why all the aaa titles on the system shit on everything the ps1 had.

And 99% of those were 1st or 2nd party, which means nintendo footed the bill for the cartridges.

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>>382565756
>>382565479
>>382566028
>>382566316

Why doesn't the saturn get any love.The only thing bad about it was the price

>>382574121
>but when I was a little kid I disregarded the PS1 because I didn't want to deal with loading times in my videogames.

Unlikely

Kids tolerate the worst bullshit in vidya. Bad game design, low frame rates, bad controls, artificial difficulty, cut scenes, QTEs, you name it.

Sometimes I wish I could be like that again. When a game feels unfair I use adult reasoning skills and determine the developers were retarded instead of childing the fuck up and dealing with it.

>>382570265

nintendos dick up your ass and mouth at the same time

>>382574358
>Said the manchild with a chocolate milk mustache in his mom's basement.

Married, make 90k a year as a journeyman, 3 kids, massive house on a lake, second cabin home. Enjoy your disc rot cheap cd games.


>And 99% of those were 1st or 2nd party, which means nintendo footed the bill for the cartridges.

Doesn't matter. Those games are all better than the entire ps1 library. Get over it, try to contain your jelly and grow up kid

>>382574872
If you didn't own both at release just like the ps1 and 64 then you were poor white trailer trash and your opinion doesn't matter on the subject.

>>382574304
Yeah, there's that. And while a lot of the really mainstream games were great, I think my favorite PS1 games were probably too obscure to find at a store in my area anyway.

>>382575092

I have owned over 200 games for PS1+2+Genesis combined. You?

Spent a lot of time at my cousin, that took care of all my N64 needs. PS1 had much more to offer, sorry.

>>382574880
>Married, make 90k a year as a journeyman, 3 kids, massive house on a lake, second cabin home.

You can't go on the internet and tells lies after telling people you collect N64 cartridges.

>Enjoy your disc rot cheap cd games.

I don't collect them like an aspie. They go on a drive for PC emulation or modded hardware.

>Doesn't matter. Those games are all better than the entire ps1 library.

Your damage control was games had to be good to recoup costs. They could be good and not recoup costs. Also 64 MB made the sound automatically shit.

>Get over it, try to contain your jelly and grow up kid

Not until you give me some of that chocolate milk

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>>382574880

> Those games are all better than the entire ps1 library.

You are wrong.

>>382575494
>doesn't even have a collection
>steals roms like a neet poorfag in his mommy's basement
>thinks his opinion is worth anything
>doesn't even own a second home

I do have chocolate milk... I give it to my kids to pander to them when they're being whiny little bitches. You would be right at home.

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>>382576071
>doesn't even have shelf space like an adult
>gives his entire allowance to used game jews
>thinks his oxygen usage is worth anything
>at least he's getting the house when mommy dies

Oh btw, even Nintendo knew cartridges were dog shit and scrambled to fix it

>>382569114
The one with gunstar heroes

>>382572202
>for gameplay the N64

lolno

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>>382575887
Naw I'm good. MGS and SoTN are two of my favorite games ever though.


>>382576342
>implying I don't already have all my favorite games for over 15 years now.

Worked my whole life neet. Stop being a lazy blight on society. Go get a life anon, you're depressing.

>>382576342
>scrambled to fix it
>brand new Nintendo consoles don't use cartridges

Extra chromosome spotted.

>>382576743
>Collects video games and has a list saved on his computer to show everyone
>Tells anons to get a life

That went from pissing in the wind to fucking pathetic really fast

>>382577030
What?

>>382577110
>take ss with 2 seconds of effort off wiki

Is this your first day online billy? Are you getting ready to start hike school this fall yet?

>>382577402
>take ss with 2 seconds of effort off wiki

Then why are you showing me games you don't own?

Is this a pretend collection like your salary and family? Well at least that doesn't waste money and space.

>>382577575
Who said I didn't own them? Why are you so salty anon?

>>382577886
So you not only made a list, but you put it on a wiki?

I was just shitting about the basement thing but not anymore

>>382578172
>doesn't own an 1800 square foot brand new basement with a fireplace, pool table, bar, big screen with ps4 and xbox one s, crt retro game room, guest room and a gym.

This is your last reply. Fix your life anon.

>>382578495
Oh my god you really did

lmao

>>382564902
What shit taste. Re2 was the only one worth playing until remake and 4, amd the 64 versiIn is much better, the rest are forgettable. Crash cuter??? Are you fucking kidding me? I'll give you final fantasy, but 7 is the only good one.

>>382574554
a switch remake with the HD rumble would be awesome

N64 If you had friends.
Ps1 if you didn't have friends, didn't mind load times, didn't mind inferior gamepads, and didnt mind fragile equipment

>>382564484
I had a n64 as a kid but it's ps1 no contest
>controller isn't completely batshit retarded and became the model for every modern controller since
>CDs
>n64 only had a few flagship games that people actually liked which get endlessly spammed because muh nostalgia

>>382573654
Yeah, I remember getting shadows of the empire for like 80-90 bucks when it came out.

Saturn master race.

>>382568968
Is that it? That's only what...20 games? Yeah amazing library. There are 20 really good games per genre on PS1. Same with the PS2 vs Gamecube debate.

>>382564484
I had both
PS1 is better.

>>382569114
Sega won. I was too young to enjoy the JRPGs for SNES.

>>382564484
>go over to friend's house
>have ps1
>always shovelware

>go over to friend's house
>n64
>always have good games that are multiplayer

>>382574395
Its lacking the massive texture warping.

>>382573414
What if you were to give this game to, say, twenty... intelligent people i mean, what would that do? Let's face it what would it do?

>>382569114
SNES is the best console ever

>>382564484
N64 with friends. PS1 when they went home.

>>382566528
There were huge differences between porting PO'ed from the 3DO to the Playstation because the 3DO didn't use triangles like the other consoles when creating polygons.

>>382569114
Easily the Genesis.

>>382564484
PS1 had souls blade, tekken, gran tourismo, etc.
I remember ppl talking about these games mainly.
Ofc the n64 had smash bros. But it came in 1999.

>>382572676
Squares prime was during the PS1. Though I agree with Konami's prime was during the 16 bit era.

>>382564484
Smash for the couch multiplayer

Imagine a CD N64. Sony wouldn't have had a chance.