Was defeating him with Speech the canon way?

>>382544065
Should be, Same with Fallout 1

No but it was the cleanest way to defeat him.

>>382544065
Do non canon games get canon endings now?

>>382545846
Wasn't the canon way in Fallout 1 fighting the Master to death?
The Vault Dweller was indeed carrying a very big gun.

>>382544065
If they ever want to bring the Legion back in a way that isn't too forced then Lanius would have to be alive by the end.

>>382546368
They shouldn't bring the Legion back is the thing though, everything pointed to Caesar needed to win, not just for the land but because he knew the model he had set up was unsustainable and needed to merge with the NCR destroying both but creating something better in their place.

He wanted the conquest not to force everything to be the Legion, but to use the Legion as a catalysts to bring the entire area together and have people work towards the good of man as a whole.

>>382544065
I think we all agree the true canon ending is house.

>defeating him
>canon
The canon is to join the legion.

>>382546835
Yeah. It's the one that causes the less trouble for the world as a whole and he's the best leader New Vegas could ever hope for.

>it's a /v/ talks about """canon""" episode
This one's just depressing.

>>382546835
>>382546965
Get out Mr. House. Nobody invited you.

>>382547129
Fuck off Benny. Shouldn't you be somewhere else hanging from a cross?

>all these edgy kids

Good ending = NCR
Bad ending = House
Worst ending = Legion
Joke ending that was only included for immature adults and children who wanted to "kill everybody XD" = Yes Man

>>382546289
for you

>>382546368
>>382545846

If they ever want to put the legion in a future game, they need to actually fully flesh them out. As of now, there are scraps of lore that point to the legion being good, but obsidian just said fuck it, make them a meme later on. A big part of their meme status is Lanius, and his position in the succession.

Canon should be Legion loses, Caesar lives, Lanius and Vulpes die, Lucius inherits the legion.

>>382547345
>Bad ending = House
You're the only edgy person here, do your homework and go read some lore.

>>382547235
At least Benny had balls. And wasn't a psycho.

I thought the canon ending was killing off all the factions and plunging New Vegas into anarchy. Every faction was evil or self-serving on some level.

>>382547345
Good ending = House
Bad ending = Legion
Worst Ending = NCR
Depends on how you handle it = Yes Man

>>382547514
Yeah, he brought six people to kill one Courier. Big balls.
He's also a massive psycho.

>>382547345
>Joke ending that was only included for immature adults and children who wanted to "kill everybody XD"
>still pushing this meme

>>382547530
>>382547345
I know the past fallouts had "good" endings canon but I figure at some point there has to be a "bad" ending canon, or else fallout will no longer really be about a nuclear apocalypse. Humanity has made too much progress for a post apocalyptic game : fresh water, the geck, etc. Needs to be taken down a peg with a canon evil protagonist that ruins everything.

>>382547668
Opposing House took balls. Hiring goons was smart. I'm not really defending Benny it's just not hard to be better than the tinpot dictator that was Mr House.

>>382547943
Reminder that had it not been for him there wouldn't be anything people would want to fight for.

>>382547357
HAHA MEMES AM I RIGHT GUYS?

>>382548039
Wow he used his money to save himself. What a cool guy.

>>382547907
To clarify fallout needs a shitty ending to avoid going from "nobledark" to "noblebright"

>>382548175
He wanted to save Vegas. Still, better than anything Benny has ever accomplished.

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>>382544065
we'll never know
and maybe that's for the best

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Elijah's is the canon ending.

>>382546835
>>382546965
It's also probably the best for leaving a sequel open

>>382544065
No, the cannon way is to take every drug in your inventory and blow his head off with the anti-materiel rifle, then stroll out of there and tell the general to BTFO while your face twitches like a dying animal.

>>382547345
Except Yes Man is canon

Courier is the wild card, he's not just going to be one of the factions bitch boy, especially since the writers put so much emphasis on the 3 main factions all being doomed to fail.

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>>382548518
>i am da courier XD
>i am smarter than mr house XD
>i'm stronger than both the ncr and the legion COMBINED XD

>>382548587
The Courier is a fucking cyborg cowboy Jesus by the end of the DLC's and would canonically have all of the minor factions support

>>382544065
>"I have very strong convictions and have dedicated my life to them."
>I disagree with you.
>"I see your point, but I still think my way is better."
>I continue to disagree with you.
>"I see clearly now, you have convinced me that my life was wasted, I'll go undo all my work and kill myself. Thank you for showing me the light,"

10/10 Black Isle/Obsidian writing, its realer than real life.

>>382548197
I don't think that's possible anymore. FO1/2 covered much wider areas than 3/NV/4. NV did it well with all the factions but the fact that the NCR, Legion, and Vegas will apparently never appear on the East Coast, it makes it all isolated. 3/4, didn't really change anything for the East Coast, you just do your thing and that's it. The PCs stopped being agents of big change.

>>382548715
why can't someone.... do this.... to donald trump....

>>382548587
But he/she is. There's more implants in his/her body than there is water

>>382548245
He wanted to save his little power base. The dude is an egomaniac, clearly. He is not a good guy. NCR is corrupt but at least has some semblance of morals. Independent Vegas can be good if you play your cards right. Legion is shit. But House isn't much better. You're basically resigning the Mojave to a one man dictatorship who rules with an iron fist. Maybe if he was a nice guy I could see where you guys are coming from.

>Benny has ever accomplished.
The only real difference between Benny and House is intelligence and realtive power. They both self centered opportunists. Benny is basically a proto House

>>382548715
That's the master from fallout 1, Lanius says he'll be back.

Still applies to the same devs I guess

>>382548861
But Donald is the one disagreeing

>>382548861
But they did.
>clintons not in jail
>affordable care not repealed
>still trades with arabs
>bombs syria
>no cooperation with russia
>no boycott of china

His son in law pulled an Obsidian conversation check on him.

>>382548087
Hothead

>>382548715
You know that you actually MUST prove to the Master that he was wrong with solid evidence, right?

>>382549143
actually his campaign promises were themselves the speech check against a very stupid and gullible fanbase

>>382548947
The master killed himself because the vault dweller had proof his life's work had been for nothing. The only time talking down the final boss was bad was in Fallout 3

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NCR
>Based on failed old world bureaucracy, already infected and dying by the same problems of the past
Legion
>Completely unsupportable after Caesar dies, especially with Lanius next in line
House
>Has already been outplayed by Benny which shows the fatal flaws of everything being based around one man who looks like beef jerky who cant leave his little pod

>>382549417
So Donald Trump is the Courier? That kinda makes sense actually.

>>382549530
Should download a new hair mod.

>>382548930
House has morals. For example, he is completely uninterested in Benny's fate after you deal with him and calls you out for expecting him to be satisfied with revenge. He's above that. He also respects and grows fond of a Courier with good karma if they stick with him.
At no point does he ask you to do anything "evil". Destroying the BoS is a necessity for the safety of the wasteland.
He still allows cities to run independent with him keeping them safe.
I am open to the idea of an autarchy wanting to do good for the people the same way a democracy can be damaging.

>Almost finish main line
>All saves fucking corrupted, loading forever
Truly the best game ever made lol, fuck /v/

>>382548587
The fastest possible Yes Man ending makes little sense indeed.

The ending with all faction quests and DLC done makes more sense since not only the Courier is the most OP person in the entire Mojave, he also has 100% public support, an army of killbots, and potentially all the Big MT tech including even more killbots.

>>382549595
We need to make Mojave great again

>>382548587

The courier is an immortal cyborg cowboy

>>382549380
You can actually just ask him to ask his females if you're persistent enough. You don't have to actually show him Vree's holodisk.

Also, as Marcus said, it only takes a few years to get the juices flowin' again.

Everyone knows the canon ending was locking yourself in the Sierra Madre vault.

>>382550114
>Also, as Marcus said, it only takes a few years to get the juices flowin' again.
This has been confirmed by the devs to be just a joke of Marcus' part.

>>382550209
Curiosity killed the courier

>>382547345
Wait a second I've seen this same sort of post before

>>382550114
that's still proof

>>382550368
Stupidity as well, since you're warned several times before opening the file that traps you downstairs.
I wonder how Elijah reacted to having the vault's entrance denied by an idiot who didn't know how to read.

>>382549614
>>382549614
>He's above that
Not the same as having morals or any kind of compassion. He's not vindictive because he thinks he's in the right and only a savage would think otherwise. Look at me Courier! I'm so much better than you!

>He also respects and grows fond of a Courier with good karma if they stick with him.
Not really shocking that he comes to like the guy who gift wraps him everything and doesn't act like a retard.

>He still allows cities to run independent with him keeping them safe.
What like freeside? That place is a fucking shithole.

>Destroying the BoS is a necessity for the safety of the wasteland.
Pretty debatable.

>autarchy wanting to do good for the people
The Problem is there's no real evidence that he actually cares about anyone. Just his words. And frankly I don't really trust him.

New Vegas as a place wouldn't even exist without House and his anti-nuke missiles, he is the best ending, deal with it contrarians.

>>382546278
NV is more canon than 4 will ever be, todd

>>382550687
>Not the same as having morals or any kind of compassion. He's not vindictive because he thinks he's in the right and only a savage would think otherwise. Look at me Courier! I'm so much better than you!
What about Monroe (NCR) and Caesar (Legion)? They both crave revenge and consider themselves on the right?
>What like freeside? That place is a fucking shithole.
That's before he has an army with securitrons to spare. Before that he has to keep safe Vegas at all costs. After most threats are dealt with and he's got the firepower he can afford to send securitrons as far as Primm.
>Pretty debatable.
In every ending that doesn't have the NCR looking over them they turn into raiders.
>The Problem is there's no real evidence that he actually cares about anyone. Just his words. And frankly I don't really trust him.
He needs a thriving economy without the use of slavery. That means ensuring that your workers are safe and happy.

>>382550972
> Implying Todd won't chimp out and make 1,2, and NV no canon

>>382550310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3ZCSrdwJU

Doesn't sound like a joke. Isn't delivered like a joke.

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>>382548424
Elijah was supposed to be "radical" for the brotherhood by doing all of his bullshit and still is not as far fetched as the BoS in Fallout 4 trying to become the NCR for no reason.
What was Todd thinking?

>>382546289
Couldn't that be considered a myth that the vault dweller actually did that, no matter what The Master dies

>>382551178
>Fallout 4 sold more than Fallout 2, so whatever he was thinking, he wasn't wrong about it.

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>>382551264
This is the canon death of the vault dweller.

>>382551178
Todd's thinking casual money/ GTA audience. One indisputably good choice (minutemen), one indisputably bad one (institute), 2 grey ones that appeal to certain audiences (BOS nerds/cool factor, Railroad SJWs). Just like the terrible 4 choice dialogue

Makes sense from a business perspective I guess

>Hey you might overextend yourselves if you push further into NCR territory
>Well gee I didn't think this through, guess I'll turn my whole army back, brb lol
I mean it's better than [Intelligence 11] Ur a computer in FO3 but not by much

>>382551120
This is how the FEV works
>The FEV (Forced Evolutionary Virus) that creates these super-humans targets half-cells like gametes (sex cells), incapable of seeing the difference between sex cells and ordinary body cells and it "fixes" the half-cells back into ordinary body cells.
That doesn't simply go away.
Also, I repeat, Avellone clarified it was a joke. End of story.

>>382544065
No it was with Barter.

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>>382551342

>>382551503
Look, I don't give a fuck about the book, the comic book, the exclusive interview, the author's blogpost, or whatever the fuck.
The canon is whats in the game. Supplement information isn't related and is useless.
In the game, a person who we have no reason to think would lie, delivers this statement without it sounding like a joke.

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>>382551462
I can see that. I imagine normies shutting down after having to decide between House and NCR or when House asks you to destroy BoS. SJW panicking when caesar is not cartoonishly evil an is talking about dialectics

>>382551470
>In light of current events that you didn't know of then this campaign started, and maybe just now learned about, I think its unreasonable for you to proceed with the plan.

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>>382551649
Whatever you say you autist.

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>>382551590

>>382551024
NCR's biggest knock is its corrupt. But at least it's somewhat democratic. So individual leaders aren't very important. And I already said the Legion was shit.

>That's before he has an army with securitrons to spare.
I don't see why he could send them some food or better yet some more water.

>That means ensuring that your workers are safe and happy.
Yes good goyim. I'm sure the guy who uses primarily robots really cares about his human workers. Ever visit RoboCO?

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>>382544065
Canon ending is killing off all of the leadership of both sides so they collapse in on themselves while you rule New Vegas.

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> "cannon ending"
> non cannon game

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>several fallout games
>lasers, cyborgs, surgery, computers are preserved or recovered
>still no cars or motorbikes

nice engine, todd

>>382551267
>muh sales
Bethesda would shit a gigantic pile of crap, slap their logo on it and people would still eat it up

>>382552579
People buy Bethesda games because they have good "feel" to them. They have that elusive "fun" thing.
Graphics, sound, UI, music, stability, controls, gameplay mechanics, story, everything may be utter shit, but Bethesda put in a grain of "fun" and it grows, and people like it

They are good. Bethesda are good. Search your heart. You know it to be true.

>>382548587
yes
yes
yes

your point?

>>382551120
It's clearly a joke and you're a retard if you think otherwise

>>382552109
doesn't the NCR control water and food in freeside?

>>382552526
What reason do they have to improve when people keep buying their shit over and over again?
I honestly expect them to make another Elder Scrolls game in Skyrim because they are creatively bankrupt and know that most of their customers just want more of the same.

>>382552723
if by "fun" you mean open world then yes, that is the kind of shit the masses will eat up

>>382552886
No, they're just handing out food to NCR squatters in the area

I was impressed to discover that you can beat him with Barter in a very similar manner.

When was the last time you beat a game by talking about the philosophy of trade with the final boss?

>Sending the warrior prince of a dying tribe back home in shame
Definitely the best ending

>talking down the giant cosplayer
>not just punching him into bits

>>382553423
>i powergame a roleplaying game, i'm so awesome

>>382552723
Go away todd. I won't buy Fallout 4 no matter how many times you tell me to.

>>382554137
You will buy it on the next sale.

>>382549417
that's just any political candidate, it's not restricted to donald trump

>>382549785
You did install the unofficial patches, right anon?

>>382554387
I'm not even gonna pirate it Todd. That's right, I'm not even going to PLAY it, ever.

Because I know you're actually a manlet, Todd.

>>382547907
Hi, Mr. Avellone.

>>382547345
what do you see in the NCR that you consider it to be the good ending?

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>>382554806
You keep saying that, but you always buy it eventually.

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>>382555137
What even is that power level

>>382548587
>gets shot in the head
>gets up, tracks down the guy that shot him
>someone with the balls to do all this wouldn't have the balls to play all the factions off against each other and hold all the aces secretly

>>382555137
I haven't bought a game since Steam came out.

>>382548587
you sound like a corrupt politician
it makes sense now

>>382548087
for you.

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>>382552526
>Cars in 2
>Disappear in New Vegas

>>382551178
it's funny how much the original devs version of BoS differs from Bethesda's

>>382552526
What about train hats?

>>382555420
>power level
That's pretty normie, especially considering the game

>>382555137
>all that money that couldv'e been used in investing

Why is our generation so fucking childish?

>>382555137
What's the point of having all that shit in front of your screen when you don't see 1/3 of what's happening?

>>382556821
Woooow, all that one thousand dollars, how much property you could buy with that.
Fucking child trying to sound adult, I wish it would go out of fashion so I don't have to tolerate it anymore.

>>382555137
>spending all that money to show everyone how much of a non-fallout fan you are

>>382557024
All you need is $1000 to get yourself started fuckwit. lern2wallstreet

>>382557156
pwahhahaha oh my sides
please be twelve forever

>>382544065
Both this boss fight and the Oliver one are proof that speech is a broken and cheesy mechanic in this game. With a speechbuild all you have to do is slap the bracketed speechcheck in every conversation (except with Dean) and enjoy bypassing content/getting free shit.

Speech checks should be hidden until after the fact, or at least hidden unless your speech skill exceeds the check by like 10 points because if a mechanic is gonna be this broken it at least better be challenging to use.

Maybe if they had Lanius only cheesable with barter and Oliver with speech it would be more interesting.

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>>382548087
>he doesn't like memes

What would have happened if the courier made a beeline for Helios One, given power to Freeside, then went to the strip and killed Mr. House, took over the Strip, and did nothing? If he just let the war play out over the dam and turtled up in New Vegas?

>>382548587
The fact that the courier can potentially destroy all major factions in the mojave kinda makes everything you say true

>>382560508
The Legion would have won. Oliver's tactics suck and are completely reliant on you for them to work. The they'd try to get into the Strip, and without the securitron army the Courier would be able to hold off the Legion while suffering heavy casualties. Vegas would end up stuffed with bodies and a very scarce population of natives to restore it.

>>382552723
Except their most recent edition lacked both feel and fun

>>382555137
is that soda good?

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>>382544065
I don't know why people always fail to mention Yes Man's potential for a robot uprising in the Wild Card ending. It's literally called the Wild Card ending! Yes Man is totally going to reprogram his personality, remember all the horrible shit humans have done to him and scourge organic life from the planet with the most powerful remaining military force left on the planet.

>>382547345
NCR is just going back to the old world, House is the best option.

>>382563204
How's that bad?

>>382560848
>fewer troops
>shittier tech
>the legion would have won guys!

Lol

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>>382548087
hothead

>>382563204
>it unites everyone in the wasteland to team up
>After years of fighting the humans win
>Form one world goverment

New ending: Globalism always wins

>>382563204
Except Word of God confirms that the personality rewrite made it so that Yes Man COULD NOT betray the Courier.

>>382563409
>Legion
>fewer troops
ahahahAHAHAHAHAHA

The independent ending is basically the status quo minus the NCR and House, which is bordering on anarchy. As such, that's the worst ending by far, and it's only chosen by people who don't think things through, oversell the courier's potential, or are ancap retards.

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>>382547345

>>382564162
But they do.

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>>382563848
>No fellow human, my unfeeling machine will never turn upon it's cruel master! My creation is perfect and cannot disobey! My word on this subject is law.

>>382557024
If you'd invested those $1 000 in Ethereum last year, you'd be sitting at a nice $40 000 now, assuming you sold when it reached $397 a couple weeks ago.

I'm still mad I didn't do it.

>>382564376
>faction which sends soldiers at their enemies with swords
>having fewer troops

>>382564480
He literally never fucking turned on it's masters beforehand, why the fuck would it turn on the Courier at all.
Fucking idiot.

>>382544065
Yes

>>382565981
The reason Yes Man joined the Courier was because Benny was an idiot who forgot to install loyalty parameters. Now Yes Man is loyal to only the Courier so another Wild Card doesn't happen again.

Man that threat he makes to the female courier honestly made me feel a bit uncomfortable, but I guess that was the point

>>382563204
Obsidian confirmed that Yes Man can only take commands from the Courier after he's upgraded. So no, that would never happen.

>>382553876
>I'm so smart I roleplay a retard that lets glorified raiders go

>>382565946
>b-b-b-b-buh theres a million zillion legion troops!!!!!
>visit all the NCR and legion spots
>more NCR troops in the region
>b-b-b-buh muh legion propaganda....

>>382548448
>while your face twitches like a dying animal.
I want you to be Bethesda's lead writer.

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>>382565981
Yes Man was manipulating his programming the whole time towards gaining freedom. He was able to interpret his programming so he could choose to work with you to kill his original master and position himself once again towards independence.

The next logical step with 'I'm Loyal to Anybody' is to be loyal to YOURSELF. So now he is manipulating his programming to give himself more 'independent' personality because the Courier espouses independence in the Wild Card ending.

Once he has an independent personality, he is free to choose to be loyal only to himself. Then all the humans will burn.

AI. Not even once.

As much as I like that you could get a Speech win, I really wish that it was more than just
>pick the speech/barter options to win

A lot more branching and maybe some speech options that still resulted in a fight would have been nice. Compare the Lanius conversation to the Atris conversation in KOTOR 2 and you'll see what I mean. That actually felt like you were havinng a battle of wits and weren't just gaming the system.

>>382555137
Nice setup Todd.

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>>382567742
it's almost like the Legion is unfinished in the game

>>382568194
You honestly think the Courier wouldn't quickly apprehend that shit what with them being Cyborg Jesus.
And this is coming from me, who would usually defend that robots should keel over humanity.

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Lanius is an example of where speech checks just seem silly
It's retarded to have the Legion's second in command preparing his army for the conquest of the Mojave for months (or even years) and you just show up, talk to him in a pseudo intellectual way and convince him to "dude just drop it all lmao"

>>382551069
That would honestly be the best option at this point. Just separate the quality from the garbage and maybe we won't have to hear about any 4 idiocy in the "non-canon" New Vegas 2.

Canon and non-canon shit is retarded anyway. NV is the one made by the original 1 & 2 team, and yet what Todd says about the series is law because he bought and slapped the Fallout name on Oblivion with guns?

>>382547596
This

It's by far the most open ending and what happens next is purely based on your character. If you're playing a good/high INT character it probably has the best outcome overall by far.

>>382563267
>Going back to the old world
House IS the old world, you retard

>>382569018
It makes sense because by the time when you enter the battle of Hoover Dam Caesar would already be dead and with no Caesar to rule the Legion means that there would be inside problems like usurpers and such for Lanius to face. If he were to stay and die then the entire Legion would be shatter

Who should I get on my good side, God or Dog?

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>Vault 22

>>382569729
Choose for yourself. Do you honestly think that you'll enjoy the story more if you have other people choose what you should think?

>>382547907
Realistically it would not take humanity this crazy long to be buildig cities out of real shit again

>>382569867
It's just a question to get people to argue which personality they prefer working with. I already know whom I prefer, but I want to hear other people's opinions.

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>>382568602
Yes Man clearly isn't giving him the opportunity. He clearly states he is going offline and the Courier won't be able to interact with him until he is done at the end. Good luck purging Yes Man from House's systems if even House's safeguards didn't protect them from Yes Man, an actual AI.

Go back and play the game from a perspective where you believe Yes Man is a hostile AI trying to gain it's freedom. It's sinister.

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>>382569796
>Vault 11

>>382569936
Yeah, that's why Fallout 2, 164 years after the war, already has cities built from scratch.
Thank Bethesda for making everything scrap metal and tinfoil because the world has ended, 80% of the population is raiders, right?

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>>382567029
>Courier meets a horrible "accident"
>Yes man now rules however he sees fit.

>>382569672
>with no Caesar to rule the Legion means that there would be inside problems like usurpers and such for Lanius to face
Does he realize it though? From what the game states he's pretty much Frank Horrigan: Legion edition (who BTW couldn't be talked into surrending). He's pretty much dumb and stubborn and ready to make it to the end, which is why the courier being able to convince him to stand down seems silly. He's not the type of man that would actually accept defeat.

>>382570036
I usually let God out because of pity, but when he's starting to get prissy about doing his job, i command Dog to work.
Fuck God, i'm trying to save everyone and he can't shut up about how he's going to kill me.

>>382551120
>he hasnt read the fallout bible

>>382554629
>Unofficial
That's the keyword
Why are they unofficial and why does this gamekilling bug still exist in games that came out after that one?

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>>382569796
>>382570339
>Vault 69

>>382570671
Yes the game is very buggy, I don't think anyone is disputing that. Doesn't make you any less retarded for not installing the unofficial patches.

>>382570517
Lanius is a monster but there's a clear reason why Caesar chose him as his heir and it's not just because he can cut his enemies down better than the rest of the Legionnaries. He's a competent general which shows that he has intellect and he's honourable as well, since he wants to know more about those he considers his equals in face before fighting them.

I don't see any reason he would listen to you, at all. Like, he should (try to) slice you in half the moment you walk up to him. Also, what happens to him if you talk him down? What does he do with his life?

>>382571337
>He's a competent general which shows that he has intellect and he's honourable as well
Questionable. Think of the Enclave ending where he wastes a shitton of resources/men just to try to kill a bunch of old people, failing to do so in the process.

>>382547345
Go clean your room.

>>382571682
A bunch of old people with the best technology in the wastes.

>>382570671
Because Bethesda can't into QA

>>382571793
Theres no reason to kill 'em at this point.

>>382571793
>A bunch of old people with the best technology in the wastes.
So? If you have them help the Legion he still sends his men to death for no reason. Meanwhile if Caesar's still alive he chooses the reasonable way and leave them be.

>>382555843
The courier has no balls, because the courier is a woman.

>>382572016
gay

>>382571682
Lanius won every single battle for the Legion until the battle of Hoover Dam. He only pursues the Enclave renmants because by then the NCR threat is long gone and Vegas is already his so he can spend as many resources as he wants to.

>>382551024
Someone who's moral for practical reasons is not moral.

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>>382570442
>implying that Yes-Man is able to take down the Courier

>>382572983
I guess nobody's moral then. Most people don't act upon their worst impulses out of fear of being rejected or incarcerated. If a man stays moral even when he's in power, that's something else.

>>382573249
Psychological egoism. It's interesting.

>>382573048
>"Mister bear and bull man wants to see you courier. You should go to the divide and see him"
>blow the whole divide with all the nukes that are there waiting to be blown

Never trust an AI and never make a deal with a dragon chummer.

>>382573825
The nukes are far away from the entrance where Ulysses hangs out, though. Besides, if you went for independence you probably used all of them on the Long 15 and Legion camp.

>>382558003
That's why I liked the one at the end of lonesome road better, you had to choose the right dialogue after making the speech check

>>382573997
Good to know they learnt their lesson after making NV and applied it on the DLCs. It's also pretty cool how you can befriend all the members of the Think Tank so they'll support you in the final confrontation.

>>382555137
I'm still disappointed about that beer being called just "Fallout Beer". Like, seriously? That's the most generic, bland thing they could have done. If they wanted to promote it using cola, would they call it "Fallout Cola" instead of Nuka Cola?

Which is the best boss battle in the game, DLCs included?

>>382573979
Only twisted fucking psychopaths would nuke 'em all.

>>382576812
Or a good strategist. Getting the NCR out of your back early can save you a lot of trouble when the NCR tries to retake Vegas a few months after you've kicked them out.

>>382547345
stupid dumb neocon scum

Does Dog deserve any pity or is he too much of a mindless beast to be merciful with him?

>>382576986
Not really worth it to kill all trade east and west of you.

>>382577323
Nobody will want to trade with you in any of those directions anyway; it's better to cut them off.

>>382577563
That seems pretty wrong. The caravan companies have already worked to establish trade routes and invested tons in infrastructure and logistics. They aren't going to want to pull out of that simply because the NCR loses a fight. Add to that the open border across the river and north, it's quite lucrative.

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Approaching Helios One, what do I do?

>>382578021
Caravan Crimson is an NCR associate; they'll pull out as soon as NCR leaves the area. Besides, the Mojave Express has been delivering packages for a long time; they were the main reason Crimson Caravans had to send McLafferty to Vegas; their business wasn't welcomed there.

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>>382556417

it seems to be implied that there are functional motor vehicles, the engine just can't actually accommodate them moving

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If you want to take out the legion in the long term then yes, killing ceaser and talking him down is the best option, his shit leadership will kill the legion off way faster.

>>382578047
launch Archimedes II