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buy my game you filthy /v/ermin
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Who doesn't have it?
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>>382534919
ME
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rather have d2 hd
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>>382535053
>sc2 remaster, d2 remaster, WCIII remaster will all be a thing in your lifetime.
feelsgood
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>>382536765
>sc2 remaster
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>>382533716
T-Todd what happened to you?
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>>382533716
It looks breddy good desu.
I love the remastered looks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvMWz7j36UQ
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Was planning on it until I saw the preorder shit. I guess since SC2 is dead Blizzard wants to skullfuck Brood War with microtransactions.
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>>382533716

SHE IS INFESTED TO THE CORE!
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Literally who?
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>>382540593
That preorder stuff is just visually different command center, nexus and hive.
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>tfw no grimdark SC2 where kerrigan took over most of the sector after BW and jimmy assassinates her, letting the entire sector be consumed by zerg going berserk with no leadership
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>>382535053
>d2 hd
>it's unmoddable
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How do you feel that they retconned the protoss into being chads like they were in SC2?
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>>382533716
I don't like weeb shit.
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>>382541865
What?
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>Modern Online play
They're not going to pull the same shit that made Starcraft 2 feel like a fucking job are they?

I played Starcraft not memorizing Build Orders like a fucking recipe, if I buy this remake I want to just build armies and shit and throw them at enemies. I don't need a job or a """"e-sport."""""
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>>382542735
Or you go to a custom match so you can play around in the kiddie pool together
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>>382543204
Or he can play a game that's actually fun.

Gee, I wonder why SC2 died.
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>>382542735
casual
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>>382542735
they said they're going to try to keep the FISH system in some way, but maybe that is just for korea. Either way, this remaster is primarily aimed at korea where brood war is still a big deal, the expectations for the west aren't nearly as big.
>>382543517
sc2 was just casual starcraft for westerners, it never gained much traction in korea, brood war always had higher viewership there.
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>>382544071
Are you saying that SC and BW weren't casual RTS for westerners?

>aimed at korea where brood war is still a big deal
>still a big deal
Guess you are a deluded gookdrone.
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>>382533716
Because it will be a flawed remaster, with skins for units for 5€, nexus for 10€ and unlockable heroes. Besides it will surely have no free modding.
Just use a mod for the original to get your shitty HD and don't fall for this meme.
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>>382544506
Brood war is way bigger than sc2, it's a cultural phenomenon where people who aren't into video games still have fond memories of their youth and remember names of pro gamers. ASL is far more popular than GSL and they filled the venue and then some at the finals. All the brood war pros that transitioned into sc2 back then have come back etc.


And yeah, if you think brood war is casual then you clearly don't know the first thing about the game. It's by far the hardest RTS to play on even a semi competitive level.
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>>382544782
>unlockable heroes
Did you ever play brood war? what the fuck does this even mean?
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>>382536765
Cool
But what if Warcraft IIII
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AND THIS
IS TO GO FURTHER
BEYONDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>382544835
Ops sorry didn't knew that you couldn't unlock fucking heroes for NuStarcraft.
>B-b-but guise there're no heroes right? Amirite guise haha?
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Don't buy her game
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>>382545289
That's for co-op vs AI mode, that is completely seperate from the multiplayer tab and doesn't play the same way at all. it's basically multiplayer campaign.
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>>382545289
why do you talk like that?
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>>382544920
Well, the lore is completely fucked up from WoW but even if they retcon everything after the end of WC3:TFT I wouldn't trust them to make a worthy sequel.
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>>382542735
go play civ or europa universalis if you want a braindead roleplay game where you abuse AIs, starcraft is a strategy game
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Look, if you're going to pull random shit out of your ass that is fine, but no one should take you seriously. They have stated once and again that they do not intend to change ANY of the mechanics of the game, the remaster is just a graphics update, being able to play it in widescreen and online matchmaking and league framework being put in place. They are very much aware that if they messed around with the gameplay or the units then the game would bomb and people would still just play the original BW.
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>>382545354
And your point is? You just described the game mode.
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>>382545532
My point is that it's not the main mode of the game lol? There isn't even co-op in brood war, there isn't going to be any unlockable heroes. You could literally just go to their site and look at all the updates they've put in the game instead of trying to make up your own doom scenario.
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>>382544920
> IIII
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>>382545779
>/v/ in charge of roman numerals
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>>382533716
I bought your game 20 years ago, now fuck off and be super saiyan somewhere else
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>>382545619
Sorry, can you greentext the part where I state that there will be a normal gamemode with heroes messing around?
Maybe you're realizing right now that I was talking about modifications of the game, modding and pay shits.
>DUDE U JUST CAN WATCH THE PATCH NOTES
Yes I could, I could trust them, but obviously I will not, since they fucked up all their mayor games being the greedy cunts that they are. They just returned to the old games that they weren't supposed to touch because they lack the creativity and consistency of the old games.
>THEY WON'T FUCK THE GAME YOU'RE JUST PLAYING HERE THE DOOM CARD
They already played it desu, with their source code a remaster would have been released in no time, instead of that they already made some stupid pre-purchase shit.
Thus this is obviously about preferences, you want the new shiny and skinned starcraft, and ppl like me just want to play and enjoy the game without any nu/vidya/ bullshit. Stay tuned for them patch notes bro, theyll make a polished product again.
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>Kerrigan will never stomp on my dick with her zerg high heels.
This is suffering.
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>>382546204
>Thus this is obviously about preferences, you want the new shiny and skinned starcraft, and ppl like me just want to play and enjoy the game without any nu/vidya/ bullshit.
Well you're in luck still, seeing as the original SC and brood war is also free now in the wake of the remaster. So even if you want to be that grumpy old man that sits around romanticizing "the good old days" and literally refuses to read actual information in order to form a more realistic opinion of a product instead of just pulling shit out of your ass and unironically making things up to be mad about, then that is fine.
There aren't any patch notes because they aren't changing anything. It's just a touch up on graphics and a new matchmakng framework for multiplayer. The game will very much play the same, because that is the one thing it needs to do in order to not be dead on arrival. There has been plenty of community testing so it's not like it's all lies coming out of blizzard HQs either.
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>>382546574
It's so nice bro! Don't remember to pre-order your pack and the Foil Protoss Armor Skin!
Haha fuck the grumpy shit head bro, Starcraft
HD will rock!!
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>>382542735
>waah why do you have to press buttons in order to play a videogame
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>>382546758
Chances are you'll play brood war and remember the game isn't for you anyway. A lot of the mechanics are not great and most of the quality of life changes sc2 made were pretty needed. Have fun moving around 1/10th of your army at a time and having them all get stuck on ramps and shit because the unit AI is really stupid, a pack of zerglings dying to a marine behind a mineral line, not being able to queue build structures, not being able to control group steal, not being able to put production facilities on the same control group etc.


The game is pretty difficult to control efficiently and most people that forget that will probably be frustrated with the experience.
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>>382533716
>buying nu-blizzard games after Legion and Mobawatch

fuck you
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>>382544793
>Brood war is way bigger than sc2
And a dwarf compared to LoL or OW.

And yeah, if you think brood wasn't made for casuals, then you clearly don't know the first thing about Blizzard.
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>>382547184
Maybe the chances are not being a shiter that cannot even micro?
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not a pro player but come on. It's like saying that BG1 has a stupid pathing because you're moving your pack of 6 together everywhere. Then you figure that almost every time they get stuck in doors or rocks.

Anyway it's better that always rush stalkers and start warping around to avoid ez shoots or take down enemies constantly. Or maybe make 1 in every 100 games a X-ray rush, just for fun, because you won't probably win anyway.
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>>382533716
But its free.
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>>382547631
Microing as protoss is way easier than something like zerg where you have so many more units. You don't always have time to micro everything efficiently, even the best of pro gamers like jaedong have had blunder games where their shit just got clumped up on a ramp.

>>382547376
Are you comparing 1997 blizzard to 2017 blizzard? Brood war is not an easy game. The pandering to casual audiences wasn't even a thing in the 90s, PC games were still for nerds and not nearly as mainstream as it is now.
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>>382548797
>The pandering to casual audiences wasn't even a thing in the 90s
Yeah, because Lost Vikings or R&R racing are hardcore games for le hardcore olfags like us, right?
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>>382549557
What are you even trying to say anymore? There isn't an RPG on the market that has a steeper learning curve than brood war. It's easy to sit there never having played the game and say it's casual because you only have two resources to deal with, but it's equally ignorant. You don't just need to know what you have to do to beat something, you have to be able to pull it off efficiently too.


SC2 is a much more casual version of brood war but even SC2 has an incredibly steep learning curve compared to other competitive games of today.
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I can't wait for sc:r
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>>382549940
>What are you even trying to say anymore?
Blizzard always made games for casuals, esports were a fluke.

>There isn't an RPG on the market that has a steeper learning curve than brood war
Oh wait, you are just pretending to be retarded. 4/10 I guess, you typed a lot and got some replies.
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>>382550378
>picking out a typo instead of coming up with an argument
Truly the epitome of /v/ tactics.
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>>382550595
>Truly the epitome of /v/ tactics.
Dude, you are avoiding the subject and pretending to be retarded. Blizzard always made casual games for potato computers and nobody expected BW to turn onto an esport, period. The only "hardcore" parts of BW were just an accident/limitations of the engine (funny enough, that happened to Quake and DOTA too, esports are mistake).
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>>382542021
>sc
>weebshit
you're like 12 i assume?
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>>382551798
>hurr it wasn't their intention it was all a mistake
How is this ACTUALLY relevant at all? The fact that the game is difficult is not altered by anything you've said, if anything you are the one trying to side step the topic.

Why focus on something that doesn't exist over something that is reality? Is this the power of autism?
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>>382552045
>replying more than 2 hours late just to prove that your newfag
Good job I guess.
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>>382552269
>How is this ACTUALLY relevant at all?
Because the argument was about SC2 being shit because it forced the competitive on all players, while most BW players played it casually. Guess you weren't pretending, tardo.
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>>382545328
Why tychus has blonde beard?
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>>382554043
Why does he have blue eyes? They're clearly brown in the game
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>>382545289
That's not the same
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>>382545457
WoW's story is just as retarded and hammy and WC3. Stop pretending like it wasn't the same people who wrote all that crap.
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>>382554754
Pre BL I'd agree with you, but after that just no.
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>crying over a 15 dollar remaster with fixed online play that preserves the exact same gameplay

get a job
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>>382555280
>shilling for free
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>buy my game you filthy /v/ermin

Make me
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>>382542021
>>382552412
you summerfag shitkins need to stop posting already
go get some english lessons or something
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>Giving money to NuBlizz
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>>382533716
>Kerrigan will never step on your balls with her organic heels
Life is suffering...
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>>382557256
JUST BUY IT ALREADY
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>>382542735
>I played Starcraft not memorizing Build Orders like a fucking recipe, if I buy this remake I want to just build armies and shit and throw them at enemies.

This is like complaining that you need to memorize moves and know combos to be successful at fighting games. Sure you can just build stuff an just throw it at the other player but you will probably lose a lot. Sounds to me like RTS games and especially Starcraft isn't for you.
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>>382544936
>was supposed to turn into a xel'naga
>becomes a flaming angel-thing

What the hell?
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>>382552815
>Because the argument was about SC2 being shit because it forced the competitive on all players, while most BW players played it casually. Guess you weren't pretending, tardo.
It has all the modes BW has and more. Seems like a personal issue.
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>>382560718
Preferable to huge squid alien thing in any case.
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>>382552815
>it forced the competitive on all players
How, exactly?

This sounds like it was just players playing the game as they saw fit. If the community or whatever became highly competitive, that's just players doing it themselves, isn't it?
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>skin packs
I knew they'd find a way to ruin Starcraft with Remastered, and here it is.
Soon we'll start getting crate drops and shit too.
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>>382562031
>skin packs
outside of the preorder thing, what is the source of this? Chances are you can't buy the pre order skins anyway, thats how the LEs with sc2 worked.
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>>382562181
It's obvious as fuck. Why implement a skin system in your game if you're not going to start selling skins?
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>>382556721
Mr.Mats.........
Your a SHIT
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>>382562674
SC2 isn't really heavy on the skins either. they added like half of them this year, before that it was like two per race for like 2 dollars each which were a negligible difference.
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>>382555280
Literally this.
Had they changed the game, /v/ would have bitched.
Had they given the game out for free, /v/ would have bitched.
Basically literally anything Blizzard does now, /v/ bitches about, no matter how good or bad it is.

Because /v/ is a stupid herd of sheep that just echoes outrage like a Tumblr echochamber, but over vidya instead of SJW politics.

Because some retarded /v/irgins grew out of WoW, Blizzard is now their Patriarchy. Because D3 was not a D2 clone, and because WoW changed after Vanilla/TBC, retarded faggots who can't look at these developments logically just lash out continually and blame everyone but themselves for their aging beliefs.

SC2 is objectively better than SC1. Better story, better gameplay, better systems and mechanics, better tech, better graphics, better online, more modes, MORE EVERYTHING. You cannot name any one single thing from SC1 did well that SC2 did not do as well or better. And then SC2 went and did even MORE. But RTS is dead as a genre and the online couldn't compete with free MOBAs and MMOs of today, so retards claim, without any way of proving it, that SC2 is an abomination.

So Blizzard makes SC1 playable on modern systems and re-releases it for nostalgia and these fuckwits STILL complain. Over nothing. Because all they want to do is bitch and whine like the backwards children they are.

They are the exact same brand of outrage-huffing, victim-complex SJW scum that infests the rest of the internet. And they don't even realize it.
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>>382562917
>Had they given the game out for free, /v/ would have bitched.
This already happened when they made the original SC/BW free.
>abloo bloo bloo I paid money for this 20 years ago it's not faaaair!
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>>382562917
Regarding SC2 doing everything better when compared to BW. I'm not really sure that statement stands. Brood War has horrible graphics due to the fact that its very old and that really hampers it from a streaming standpoint, it's hard to get new people interested in such an ugly game. But the underlying gameplay is vastly superior in my opinion, if only due to the fact that games last so long and involve many skirmishes when compared to the single blob versus blob fight that decides the game in starcraft 2 (as it was in WoL, haven't kept up with recent developments).
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>>382562917
>SC2 is objectively better than SC1. Better story
I'll give you every single other point you're making, but this one? The plot of the campaign of sc2 went to absolute shit, especially in hots and lotv, but also in WoL. Raynor in WoL and raynor in SC1 feel like different characters, SC1 raynor wouldn't have thought twice about letting tychus kill kerrigan. He wanted her dead.
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>>382563641
LOTV is much higher pace but it's almost never decided in two maxed out armies. The game is all about who can disrupt the other guys macro the most by multitasking harass without falling behind on the macro.
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>>382563750
I'm the above poster and while I dont really like SC2s multiplayer it's singleplayer story was pretty coherent albeit cliche, there is an excuse for Raynor wanting Kerrigan alive. If I remember correctly Zeratul told Raynor Kerrigan is an important part of fighting against Amon
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>>382533716
season 4 ASL when?

Is there any English casted Broodwar tournament going atm?
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>>382535046
its free though
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>>382563993
If I remember correctly, zeratul tells them about the artifact and how to turn her human again, but the whole prophecy stuff where kerrigan is the chosen one isn't until the HOTS campaign.

Hell, I don't even think the HOTS campaign is that bad, finally finishing the whole storyline with mengsk actually was pretty nice, but all the Amon stuff just felt really uninspired.
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>>382563993
>If I remember correctly Zeratul told Raynor Kerrigan is an important part of fighting against Amon
Zeratul did indeed tell him that.

However, a MASSIVE part of Raynor's own motivation came from being madly in love with her and super sad about her being the Queen of Blades now. Zeratul's reason just fueled Raynor even further.
The fact that he had literally sworn to kill her himself was 100% forgotten, and that was pretty damn weird.
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Can I select more than 12 units at once? That shit always bothered me and still does.
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>>382564381
There was that pretty cool last protoss mission where you had to defend your base from a billion zerg and one of the protosses said something along the lines of "How could we have known Kerrigan was the key", it's probably from there that Raynor learned that he should save her since the mission was showcasing a future where Kerrigan was killed, memory is pretty fuzzy though so I'm not sure
At any rate I think Raynor knew before HoTS about how important she was
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>>382564680
Nah, they made a pretty big point of keeping all the mechanics the same, including this one. Blizzard want the remaster to replace the original in Korea and it wouldn't if they added all the sc2 quality of life changes.
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>>382564712
Yeah they lost a pretty good oportunity to showcase Raynor's internal doubts about saving Kerrigan. Would have been a nice side story. He just went from "I want to kill that bitch" to "I really want my waifu back"
Subpar storytelling if you ask me
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>>382564935
If its a remaster, does that mean it's going to have the LAN support, Map editor, old B.net screens and everything?
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>>382564680
12 units at once is very important for the overall balance of the game, Manuvering max population armies takes a shit ton of skill because of that small thing
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>>382565063
Yeah they're keeping those things in, though I'm not sure how they're going to do the bnet screens since they have to add matchmaking and a leaderboard. I guess they'll just tack it on.
I really hope they aren't porting it to the sc2 layout lmao
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the starcraft 1/brood war campaign and over all aesthetic was a bit darker than sc2, the zerg was portrayed in a more horror esque way etc.
>>382565063
Not sure, it seems likely. From what I've seen they're just updating graphics, making it playable in 16:9 aspect ratio and adding a matchmaking framework for online multiplayer. So maybe not the old battle.net stuff. There are screenshots and explanations on the starcraft site.
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>>382547271
Legion is good. One of the best expansions along with MoP and WotLK and TBC.
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friendly reminder that sc remaster is for fucking casuals because it lets you rebind hotkeys. mark my words, 1.18 will fail and 1.16.3 will reign forever.
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>>382566010
the key binds aren't identical on every version of sc1 as it is anyway, it's literally just the first letter of the name of the unit/structure, and it changes depending on which language you got the game in, for example the german one.
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>>382562031
delete this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>382562917
>Eating SC2 shit
>Eating NuWoWs shit
>Eating D3 shit

And you came here trying to give a lesson to anyone, holy shit youre deluded kid.
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>>382566751
kespa only allowed english tho
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>>382567734
Pretty sure there wasn't a distinction made, but korea got the english version so that's what was played in korea.
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>>382567847
try going to courage and saying "HOLD UP BREH, gotta install the german version!!!"
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>>382533716
I've already preordered.

$21 australian
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>>382566010
Changing keybinds is a good thing.

However I'm willing to bet our actual gameplay "features" that are fun and skillful to exploit are going to be removed

Things like mineral walking, spidermine exploit, etc etc

I don't really care if the keybinds can be rebound, it's not really an issue for starcraft HOWEVER I really hope they give Warcraft 3 the same treatment because numpad item hotkeys were cancer
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>>382568101
good goy. don't forget to buy the skin packs and emoji packs when they come out too
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>>382568204
They aren't removing mineral walking, they didn't remove that for sc2 either.
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>>382540676
Literally underage.
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>>382568435
I don't think we'll be able to say the same for stuff like larvae move, Unit pressing, and lurker hold pos though
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>>382568882
they'd be insane to change anything gameplay related, the whole point of the remaster is to experience the game as it was
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>>382546442
Fuck anon, stop making me laugh
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>>382542735
Fucking faggot right here
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>>382567973
>not ACHTUNG
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>>382566010
>still have to deal with every other inconvenience
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>>382568882
It'll probably stay in, although lurker holding is pretty gay imo.
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>>382569062
We can only wait and see.
Either way I'm glad they're at least attempting this.
Good gameplay doesn't age, just graphics age so it will be nice to have it dazzled up.
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>>382562674
>Selling skins
Selling sprite sheets really
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>>382566010
it was foolish of them to allow it.
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>>382533716
go back to sc2 you impostor
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wh-what's wrong with rebinding keys? Isn't that good for video games?
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>>382570909
It's not a problem, but most people probably believe it's a slippery slope. Since it's a change that impacts gameplay to some extent that means there's a risk they'll change other gameplay related things as well. Which no one wants for brood war
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>>382570909
some are elitist saying hitting M on your keyboard instead of A to make a marine is far more skillful instead of just a nuisance.
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>>382571070
I don't get it though. People don't have to rebind their keys if they don't want to. The only conclusion to draw is that someone is upset that another person gets to keybind their keys to their liking.

The skins bullshit I can see as a problem. However I remember them saying they wanted to keep the unit sillouettes the same so they are easily recognizable for people that played the original. This leads me to believe there will not be any skins.
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>>382571070
Nah, pros are all on board with rebinding keys, rebindable keys don't matter in the scale of things other than preventing wrist injuries

The interesting thing is wether or not pros will rebind their keys, as they must have that shit engraved with fire in their mind and down to muscle memory
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>>382571429
The reactions are pretty knee jerk. I agree binding doesn't hurt anybody. But I understand people's concern. If blizzard is willing to change brood wars gameplay in this respect then it's easy to see why some people feel uneasy
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the game is about playing under stress and managing your skill in real time. hitting 'o' for overlord when you're playing at 350 apm is hard as fuck because you need to like turn your hand, so sometimes you miss it. if you're a better player, you think about it less and dont miss it as much. now, you can have it on e and have 100% accuracy with 0 stress, making the game way fucking easier. how is that not changing the game again?
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>>382571836
I just click on the overlord picture with my mouse to spawn overlords.
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>>382572004
then you'll accidently hit burrow sometimes and waste 100/100
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>>382571836
That's a good point. But I guess if flash, stork, and jaedong don't give a shit then I guess it's okay?
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>>382571836
who gives a shit

you don't seriously play gookclick games on multiplayer mode do you?
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>>382571836
Somebody gets it.

It might sound pedantic but hitting P to build a probe over hitting E makes a difference. It's part of the balance of the game to learn the differences between teams hotkeys and the time it takes to press them.

ofc now everyone will rebind for max apm making it more like sc2 brand of competitive.
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>>382533716
>friend and I grew up playing starcraft and broodwar
>hate everything that happened in with sc2 but he loves it
>he unironically loves and defends all the lore and soap opera from sc2 and hates sc1
I might end up buying her game out of anger
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>>382572179
ya because they're being paid off by blizz and will never play competitively again. i care about the amateur korean scene and the clans. as is no one plays on 1.18 because it's hot garbage, i can only hope that they keep using 1.16.3 because it's free after SCRE comes out. this shit is so cancer.
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>>382533716
Only thing I want is d2 hd. That will be awesome, everything is way too tiny when playing at ultra wide 1440p right now
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>>382571836
I mean, you probably aren't one of those 300 apm players, and the people who actually play the game at a professional level don't have an issue with rebinding keys because bad key placing on the keyboard is not something that makes up a big part of the difficulty, it's just an archaic thing because the name of the unit started with that letter. It's not O because its harder to press O, it's O because Overlord starts with an O. Again, Overlord isn't O in the german broodwar client anyway so it is a non issue.
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>12 unit to a group still in

all interest lost
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>>382572978
brood war has been more competitive than sc2 since before sc2 even released, what are you even talking about? Sc2 is the less competitive out of the two.
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>>382573820
You can always play SC2 if you want more than 12 units. LOTV really isn't that bad of a game, and it's not as dead as people make it out to be, there are 200k> people on the ladder this season which started in m
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>>382573953
>which started in m
May, that is more than most games on steam etc.
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>>382544920
>>382545457
>>382554754
>>382555046
WoW IS wc4 idiots. Get over it. Warcraft as an RTS is dead.
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>>382573758
dude, managing stress impacts broodwar at all levels of play, not just 500+ apm july. it's not a non-issue, otherwise people wouldn't be bending over backwards for mechanics handouts like rebinding. if the game is meant to be exactly the same, then why are they "updating it," in any way? it reeks of not understanding what makes broodwar a challenging game on the developers' part, because nothing is more critical in the game than there being the possibility for your opponent to fuck up in some way. removing "mechanical archaic things" is what gave us the dogshit game that is sc2..
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>>382573953
>SC2
no
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>>382574164
They're adding an option, not updating the old one. The default bindings will still be the same.
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>>382570909
The problem is that it may make the ghost viable.
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>>382574164
>>382574169
SC2 isn't bad in it's current state, they just dropped the ball in WoL a lot of times. All the things people used to complain about back when everyone quit SC2 was fixed in one way or the other.
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>>382574292
so people using old hotkeys should just play at a mechanical disadvantage?
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>>382574317
Oh I hope the lockdown skill still has that awesome sound effect
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>>382571836
>still have to deal with the 12 unit limit
>still have to deal with retarded unit ai
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>>382574478
It's SUBJECTIVE. There is no saying what is the optimal keybinds, thats why a lot of pros have different keybinds in sc2, why people tried to come up with keybind sets like The Core which was later abandoned etc. It's all personal preference.
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>>382574648
nah, playing with o for overlord or p for probe instead of just e is objectively worse because you can hit e accurately much more accurately and at a much higher frequency (ie 5se6se7se8se9se0se is MUCH easier than 5so6so7so8so9so0so
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>>382574648
Grid hotkeys are objectively superior
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>>382574828
Sure it's objectively worse if you're starting off now, but I imagine most people who have played brood war regularly for years won't switch them because it's easier to go with the binds you've trained into muscle memory than it is to re learn it all. In the end, the difference isn't going to be as big of a deal as someone being better at microing units or making a good unit composition to beat yours, as well as the fact that you'll still have to use most of the keyboard for control groups because you cant put several production structures in the same control groups in brood war. Additionally, you don't always want to S>O for overlords anyway, unless you want to risk making 3 overlords at a time.
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>>382574471
>All the things people used to complain about back when everyone quit SC2 was fixed in one way or the other.
queens don't auto-inject in MP
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>>382575365
They used to, but it was removed. It's better without auto inject imo, sometimes you want to stack up energy for transfuses or spreading creep. It's not really like zerg is in a bad spot right now either, and injecting is easy as shit. if you miss injects you can inject twice and they will queue up now as well.
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>>382575528
and that was the largest-known player exodus to-date in SC2
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>>382574478
this is what is so fucking lame. I will be playing ladder and I want to keep the old bindings but will have to adopt q/w/e/r shit etc. because it's faster and easier.

If there is a competitive advantage you have to adopt it.
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>>382575732
When queens stopped auto injecting? No it wasn't.
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>>382575838
>muh nanoseconds advantage
literally irrelevant on your skill level, or anyone here on /v/. maybe if you were playing the korean finals
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>>382575838
>I will be playing ladder and I want to keep the old bindings but will have to adopt q/w/e/r shit etc. because it's faster and easier.
Almost no one uses grid though. It's very rare among pro players and streamers. There isn't a set chart of keybinds that are objectively superior even on S+ level, and it sure as fuck won't matter for your E games.
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