Why can't western devs make good final bosses?

>>382520919
Because final bosses are supposed to be the culmination of a game's mechanics, the ultimate and final test. Most AAA western devs don't put enough thought into their mechanics to actually make use of them for a good boss fight, so they don't bother.

>>382520919
Lot of western games have great bosses

Witcher 3
Halo
Half-life 2
Undertale
Furi

So shut it

Why can't western devs make an action game with good combat?

>>382521170
>Because final bosses are supposed to be the culmination of a game's mechanics, the ultimate and final test
Fuck off you ludonarrative memer. Videogames aren't art

Final boss has to be a cool guy and beating him has to make you feel like you have a 20 inch dick

>>382521170
most japanese boss fights are glorified cutscenes

>>382521295
You're a moron, I didn't bring up narrative. In fact I specifically said "mechanics". Do you know what game mechanics are?

>>382521325
Flat out false.

>>382521170
Get real, they're a joke, a meme. One last pointless hurdle to clear, for literally nothing. Unless you count achievements, or cutscenes, or virtue signaling, or pathetic self-validation. It's honestly childish to bother.

Lich King on 25H was the greatest MMO boss battle ever made.

>>382521404
Yes, a fucking meme spouted by youtuber reviewers to sound smart and pretentious

Because they don't believe in the spirit of America.

Bosses are an antiquated idea.

>>382521458
Games are supposed to be full of hurdles, they're not "pointless" unless you think games themselves are pointless, in which case what the fuck are you doing on this board?

>>382521553
please be baiting

>>382521458
I want to buy you a purse and talk about work.

>>382520919
They didn't play college ball, you know

>>382521596
No he's right, just skip the end boss, it's literally just padding

>>382521205

...The fuck was the final boss of Halo? Aiming grenades and rockets well? Driving a fucking car?

>>382521596
>Games are supposed to be full of hurdles
Protip: by the time you're facing the final boss, you've already cleared 99% of them. What, are you that petty, that pedantic, that trivial, that fragile that 1% means everything to you?

I don't necessarily mean you, specifically; people with your mentality.

>>382521205

Halo had a car ride as a boss. A nice car ride, but I wouldn't qualify that as a great boss encounter

>>382521752
It was the Halo

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>>382520919
I thought The Master was pretty cool.

>>382521765
I'm sure someone at some point in your life told you that the parts of a story that people remember most are the beginning and ending. That applies to games as well, but the "story" is not a written narrative, it's the player's story, the player's journey. The final boss is the conclusion of that journey. Not all games need a final boss but many games are greatly enhanced by having one, especially action games. Basically, yes, that 1% is important you massive faggot.

>>382521205
Witcher 3 is my GOAT but Eredin was a shit boss.

Lords of Shadow 1 probably has my favorite Western bosses.

>>382522059
>most are the beginning and ending.
I hope not, son. If someone told me that advise I wouldn't listen. That's like the least important parts to remember. Life's not about the destination, but the journey. And game's not about story, but gameplay. By the time you reach the end of the game, the final boss, you have already fully consumed and digested that gameplay. One overly ceremonious, archaic "final challenge" notwithstanding.

>>382521205
3/5 of those games had shit final bosses and the other two I never played

>>382520919
i guess Arkham Knight's excision of Joker from Batman's subconscious doesnt count as a "boss fight" per se, but it was a great ending sequence

Western games have never been big on final bosses, or even boss fights in general. Seriously I can't remember the last western game I've played with memorable bosses.

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>>382520919
General Corrosive from metal arms.

>>382521713
At some pompous Ivy League school.

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>>382522734
Furi's bosses were good. Though the protag was shit.
The Hand, The Beat and The Song in perticular because you felt fucking awful for killing them.

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>>382521170
I agree with you, anon. You're not alone.

WHEN THE WIND IS LOW AND THE FIRE IS HOT

Halo 4 had a pretty good boss fight.

>>382520919
Haven't you made enough of these tedious "Japanese vs. Western games" threads? Fucking do something new for once.

>>382521251
Japanese action games offer a more restrictive form of combat parameters and more linear but polished content.

Western design is more gear towards free form exploration and combat.

>>382521458
Why do you play video games Anon?

>>382521251
I like God of War and Bamham

>>382521251
Furi felt good to me even if shooting and parrying was a bit too powerful.

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>>382520919
But they can.

>>382521765
Yes I do like that 1% hurdle, for the same reason that I like every other %. It's fun

>>382527032
That's not meme skeleton

>>382521295
>he doesn't have a 20 inch dick
Feel sorry for you anon

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>>382520919

>>382521205
How did you get 4 serious replies with this post?

>>382522734
Infamous 1 had 2 good bosses, thankfully 1 was the final one.

>>382521765
Do you turn off movies five minutes before the end? Do you stop reading a book before the last ten pages?

Obviously not you stupid asshole. Fuck you.

>>382521765

You're a huge cunt, and for no discernible reason either.

Because western developers focus on making interactive movies while japs make actual video games

>>382530448
I frequently do when it's a shit movie
I also quit games at the final boss if it's a boring game

Bosses in general are an outdated concept that was rightfully abandoned as interactive experiences grew up.

>anything non japanese is western
sage

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>>382530647
>>382530448
Heh. Good. I mean I'm not even trying to be, but... Sub-zero fucks given.

>>382526876
Sorry for your loss

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Who gets to go first?
How about
me.

>>382525541
This. Everyone already knows Jap games are superior.

>>382520919
I'd argue that Metroid Prime was built around boss fights.

>>382520919
Because they are too 'video gamey' for their interactive experiences.

Japan also has the whole over the top romantization of a flashy hero, which in turn makes for fun fights.

>>382522135
I think Eredin gets a little too much shit, he's OK. Deitlaff is pretty rock solid as a DLC true final boss though.

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>>382531727
Metroid Prime is an exception not the norm.