>considered one of the best written games ever

>>382499675

>posts picture with barely readable text

good job, faggot OP

Its a joke reply in a joke sidequest.
Have a sense of humour professor videogame industry.

>>382499713
*tickles you*

>>382499675
I don't remember this from Portal

Who the hell considers BG1 to be one of the best written games?

It was pretty good for its time. Not really indicative of how great it was, just how shitty everything else was back then.

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>>382499675
Truly Nobel prize writing. Just look at this sample of actual BG dialogue - this is how you do roleplaying.

nobody thinks baldur's gate is well written, what are you talking about

>>382500143
>Posts cringy dialogue from an equally cringy fan mod
>Claims it's from vanilla BG
Outstanding.

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>>382500143
real good stuff

>>382500143
Jesus fuck this is bad.

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>>382500503
Do not do this

I know most of this is meming but I'm playing Baldurs gate 1 for the first time and the dialogue options are so silly.

>1. I am reasonable and cooperative
>2. Negative response, but so exaggerated that it's guaranteed to generate a hostile reaction
>3. Gibe me moni.
>4. Smartass answer

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so THIS is supposed to be the game with the best lore?

>>382500821
1, I don't like the idea of causing excess amounts of pain.

>>382500821
2

>>382500821
gotta kill fast, burst them down, esports 101

">>382501071"
"Hang on I'll fix that for you."
>"1, I don't like the idea of causing excess amounts of pain."

>>382500503
This is LotR tier.

What is the best RPG for Rogue characters (stealth, charisma...)?

>>382500143
>the last option
hot

>>382499675
>that dialogue
ummm... THAT was pretty random.... I'm going to go stand over here now...... kthxbye

>>382501565
A Dance with Rogues, like the name implies. Go in blind.

>>382500821
2
>>382501071
pussy. no women will ever love you and I bet you are under 6 feet tall

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>>382501565
skyrim

>>382501649
That's the one where you start off in a city slum and then become a member of thieves, right?

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>>382501708
>pussy. no women will ever love you and I bet you are under 6 feet tall
You got it.

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>>382501914
>game tries to get you to rise above and beyond the call of duty
>constantly have to be told to tone it down

>>382501708
>bet you are under 6 feet tall
This matters because?

>>382500875
>dwemer
>short
Okay, you got me. I'm mad.

>>382502052
found the manlet

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>BG:EE
>I only care about cracking skulls open, I'll follow you as long as I can cut people in half

>BG2:EE
>Hey, Anon, want to have lots of unprotected anal sex with me and let me cum in your asshole over and over until you can't sit anymore? I have a boner right now

For some reason, the writing in all of the "classic" Infinity Engine RPGs are like shit you could find in erotica books. The purple prose kills these games for me.

Any else tired of character in CRPGs ranting on and on? A million lines just to say their point?

I'm playing through Divinity Original Sin, and it's great and all, but god just get to the point already. I know CRPGs are known for having good writing but please remember the KISS principle.

all crpgs are shittily written. even planescape

>>382504139
Anybody still has the screenshot with "you're mom" joke in Planescape?

>>382500784
Baldurs Gate is dungeon crawler first and dialogue RPG tenth. I'm pretty sure there're only two skill checks during diloagues in BG2

>>382504974
There are? I thought there's absolutely none of them.

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>>382505419
Depending on your CHA score, dialogues can go differently in BG1 and BG2
Even in Candlekeep, a high CHA can get you more gold and a +1 dagger for doing the shitty tutorial quests

>>382500792
>damsel in distress

this part would surely have been modified if Amber Scott was there during BGEE

>>382505419
not him but I can only think of a few charisma checks and one time near the beginning of ToB where you have to talk to a kid with a cleric who has a resurrecton spell memorized

>>382505846
>damsel in distress
>is actually a delicious brown magefu
what did Minsc mean by this?

>>382505419
Wisdom is checked at least once during the friendly beholder dialogue

there's always a qualifier with games

>funny FOR A GAME
>well written FOR A GAME
>emotional FOR A GAME

these are still minmax pixel beeps and there's nothing to be done about that

>Ugh, this writing isn't as mature and as deep as my intellect requires. This isn't what I search while playing videotoys

>>382499675
>SALAD DODGING

>>382505902
There are plenty of charisma checks, the game just doesn't tell you about them.

>>382505737
Only in RPGs does your dumbass character get to go around giving people advise they didn't ask for.

They need to make a game where you make one of these 'moral choices' and the NPC replies with, "Shut up, bitch, nobody asked you." But I get that these are meant to be escapist powertrip fantasies, not en emulation of the player's everyday life.

There is a real underlying psychological horror show going on in RPGs, one in which you and you alone have the power to dictate reality. Of course you know what's best, you are a very smart person!

>>382506098
yeah I only remember that one charisma check when you make yourself look like a spastic to get thrown in spellhold and if you fail the guy literally says "oh wow if you had more charisma I guess I would've believed you haha wink wink"

>>382500784
that's almost every rpg with dialogue options though. even supposedly well written ones like new vegas and planescape are usually just:

>1. I am reasonable and cooperative
>2. I am reasonable and cooperative (lie)
>3. Negative response, but so exaggerated that it's guaranteed to generate a hostile reaction
>4. Gibe me moni.
>5. Smartass answer
>6. Longwinded pseudo-intellectual response that's probably out of character for what you're roleplaying

>>382506276
>They need to make a game where you make one of these 'moral choices' and the NPC replies with, "Shut up, bitch, nobody asked you."
Witcher 1, 2, and 3 if you play as a moralfag

>>382506302
>>382500784
Why is this bad? What else do you want? I'll take long winded puns over hating newpapers and [glassing them]

>>382506276
Play Gothic 2 if you want to be treated like shit. The funniest part is that your character goes around the whole game trying to convince people that he saved the world and everybody just calls him a faggot for it

>>382500143
>>382500503
>>382500792

>Posts shitty fan content
>Complains about it

Just play Vanilla you retard

>>382506302
Yeah, I wanted to play Pillars of Eternity as the 'dark' Paladin faction. They lore text made it sound like they're the ones who they call in to solve problems swiftly and completely.

Unfortunately all of the 'dark' dialogue options and choices amounted to "YOU DESERVED TO GET RAPED I'LL KILL YOU NOW GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY"

>>382506441
dialogue trees don't actually do what they're supposed to, which is let the player act out a variety of characters. instead they make it so it's impossible for your characters to act at all except for the most shallow emoting. the only reason they exist at all is because idiots are convinced that a game can't be a rpg without them.

>>382500784
It was the first game of its kind and it was made by a team that had never shipped a game. They kept the dialogue system simple for BG1.

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Don't mind me, just the most snarkiest RPG coming through

>>382506562
Unless you are a mage, of course. Mages are treated with the respect they deserve.

>I want to get aboard the ship.
>No one may enter the ship! I have my orders! I shall kill anyone who enters the ship without authorization. In the name of Innos, I shall defend the ship with my life.
>You question the wish of a Fire Magician?
>(nervous) No, of course not. May Innos forgive me. The Magicians of Fire are the guardians of the wisdom of Innos ... whoever doubts them, doubts Innos and forfeits any right to mercy.
>What happens if I go aboard?
>(nervous) I shall kill ... I mean, stop you.
>You would attack a Fire Magician?
>(nervous) I would never lay a hand on a magician.
>So what would you do if I went aboard?
>(sheepishly) Nothing, Sir.
>I will go aboard now.
>(nervous) You mustn't do that, Lord Hagen's orders were quite clear.
>Do Lord Hagen's orders include me, too?
>(nervous) I don't know.
>Just think - would Lord Hagen dare to suspect a magician of theft?
>I don't believe that.
>For the last time: Let me board the ship!
>(nervous) Understood. You may go on board.

Even when they steal ships.

>>382500143
someone actually made dialogue choices for the question "slaps ur gf's ass wat do?"

>>382507129
Reddit the RPG

>>382506760
They are official you fucking moron.

>>382505737
I choose to play ADWR and jack off

>>382507389
>Saerileth is now official thanks to beamdog

It will be lovely if they do this some day

>>382499675
>Bioware trash
>best written anything

>>382505902
>>382506098
I honestly wouldn't now. Dumping CHA to 3 and nabbing the ring of "lol 18 CHA" almost right off the bat is just too tempting.

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>>382499675
No one considers the BG games some of the best written games ever, anon. They're better written than shit like Pillars of Eternity and modern Bioware but the only thing special about them is the consistent tabletop tone of a mixture of silly shit, current topical humor, and straight faced D&D bullshit.

Been playing Dragonspear since I picked it up during the Steam sale and the writing is actually the area it differs the most from the originals. Other than having way fucking more voice acting of course. The BG series always assumed a level of knowledge of the setting since if you're a fat bearded nerd playing a D&D videogame you probably know what you're doing, but in a modern expansion to an old-ass game which you would think would be even more likely to have an audience that knows what they're doing, it starts you off with "OH NO THERE ARE UNDEAD TALK TO THIS CLERIC TO LEARN WHAT UNDEAD MEANS" when you're around 7th level.
Other than that bitching though, really been enjoying the encounter design.

>>382507619
The shitstorm would be legendary. Actually, this makes me want it to happen.

>>382507129
OOOOOOOOH IT'S BAAAAAD LUCK TO BE YOU.

>best written video game is about .1% quality of even the literal shittiest book known to man

gee i wonder why video games are for children

>>382500503
what did imeon do?

>>382500503
Does that version of the mod still exist, and does it work with BG2EE? Never played that and I would be all over some Imoen rape but I'm in the EEs since I'm a lazy shit.

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>enter inn
>ask inkeeper if there are any vermin that needs to be cleared in the basement
>expects rats that die in one hit
>he sends me into a basement flooded with sharks

>>382508009
You need to search for versions before 3.0. You can probably find link to v1.2 since baldur's modding sites are frozen and dead.

>>382508165
Based.

>>382508165
What module

>>382508235
So any version before 3.0 has rape in it? Thanks for the heads up anon, I'll look into it. Been doing a replay through the EEs since I slowly picked them up for cheap so that seems like a good excuse to get all up ins some Imoen.

Mildly annoyed that I went through BG1 just before they added achievements though. Can't be assed to cheat and unlock them but they were added like a month after I finished my run, and only a couple triggered when I loaded it up recently to import into Dragonspear.

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>>382508339
Swordflight 2

>>382503769
You can't cum in the orc's asshole? But why?

>>382508596

Imoen-v1202 it's the last one and you still download from the official page but you need original BG2, no EE. In the EE version (v3.0+) they updated the mod with new content and also rewrite the old content.

>>382509119
Oh, damn. Definitely don't care about Imoen rape enough to shift gears to the original version. Oh well. Appreciate the help.

>>382508771
It would be oppressive.

>>382500503
>even a decade later the author still regret about his writing

>>382509781
source?

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What is the best roleplaying/adventure module for NWN 1 or 2?

>>382509926
http://www.israelbarbuzano.net/blog/?p=265

>>382510289
I'm not sure I want to click on this.

>>382499713
You might need glasses bro

>>382500875
Lol, TESlore is like a children's novel

>this thread
jesus fucking christ

>>382510289
Israel you say? Gosh, I wonder if that's significant in any way.

>>382507804
I also enjoyed the SoD encounter design and how similar it was to Icewind Dale. I was very pleased with the game overall. It's a shame that the innovative and interesting combat was entirely overshadowed by Beamdog's mediocre (and overly wordy) writing. I don't understand why video game developers these days are so in love with their shitty words.

http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2017/06/games-have-too-many-words-case-study.html

Lets be honest. PS:T was the only good IE game.

>>382510456
It's just a blog

>>382510885
It is a shame, but I guess we just have to take it as a pleasant surprise. Had you told me 5 years ago that BG1 of all fucking games would be getting a significant new expansion I would've thought you were crazy. The fact that the encounter design was good is even more surprising.

It's kinda funny actually, I bitched about PoE already, but Obsidian getting a sackful of crowd funding to make their dream RPG and I consider it pretty bottom of the barrel compared to the Infinity Engine games, but fucking Beamdog of all places has interesting and varied combat. And it's not just the AD&D ruleset or the Infinity Engine because PST is a shining example that that doesn't automatically mean good combat.

>>382510000
>What is the best roleplaying/adventure module for NWN 1
Tales of Arterra is my absolute favourite, A Dance with Rogues and the Bastard of Kosigan (if you don't mind the bugginess) are also fantastic

>>382510289
>learn how to write in English by making a shitty fanfic mod
>come back ten years later to rewrite and fix it and it ends up great
That's actually based. Thanks anon, I've never read this before

>>382511348
>Beamdog makes a great expansion to BG1 sort of out of nowhere
>Obisidan hypes up some boring, bland pabulum

You're right, that was unexpected. Maybe it's because Beamdog's goals were relatively more modest than Obsidian's; Beamdog wanted to fill in a gap in an existing franchise, while Obsidian wanted to launch a new one with an engine, lore, and mechanics assembled from scratch.

>>382510885
>>http://jeff-vogel.blogspot.com/2017/06/games-have-too-many-words-case-study.html
>>Now, this is a description of a "dwarf." But, if you have even the slightest familiarity with fantasy, you know what we're talking about here: Standard-issue, Tolkein dwarves. Short. Stocky. Like digging holes, gold, and ale. Grumpy. Scottish accents. We get it.
>Dwarves aren't necessarily anything like this in PoE
reeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>382499713

>>382499675
Are Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and NWNs worth playing in LAN? How does it work?

>>382500875

>return of the dwemer
>We're back!

Okay. I laughed. A lot.

>>382500875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxmbfvycbv0

>>382499884

Yep

Same with BG2

The writing wasn't its strong point, and the overall story was decent enough to let you have cool D&D battles.

>>382499675
That's completely retarded option, choice should be short sentence like the first one, second is absolute maximum lenght.

>>382510000
Just realized, I might end up being a doll maker. Already have plants for it.

>good threads are being overwhelmed by threads made by console kiddies

>>382515089
It's always like that, and if you want something normal, you go to /vr/ and see how slow that board is. I actually go to /tg/ when I have a question concerning cRPGs. The whole situation is sad.