Which one is better?

Dark Souls 3, it's not even a contest.

Bloodborne, it's not even a contest.

Well Bloodborne is actually good, so that.

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>>382495286
How many times are you going to make this thread?

>>382495286
Neither

>>382495286
>Bloodborne vs Bloodborne Lite

Did people actually like DS3? It was so straightforward. Zero exploration. A bonfire on every corner. Every boss pretty much required a sheild since they just attacked non-stop.

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>>382495469
>>382495469
>casualized Souls spinoff vs an actual Souls game

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I sank about 100 something hours into dark souls 3 and Im coming up on 30 something in BB (just started playing about a week ago)
One thing that I can say for sure is that BB is WAY easier than ANY of the souls games. Its extremely forgiving in comparison given the fact that youre constantly healing yourself and dashing with little stamina consumption.
I will say though that its atmosphere is better and so far its story actually kind of makes sense and is far less vague.
Theyre both VERY good games. Which one is better? I dont think theres an objective answer.

>>382495591
This and this.

The good bosses felt like cut BB content only you lack the tools to deal with them.

I just beat the first lord of cinder and dark souls 3 has been braindead easy so far.
Most of the bosses have so little health that I can just mash attack until they die and all the areas have been bland as fuck. Does it get better or do people who say its good just have shit taste?

>>382495591
I have beaten dark souls 3 multiple times and not once have I used a shield
you can look up a play through of a guy clearing DS3 without getting hit once
you are literally just bad at the game

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>>382496039
>Does it get better
Yes.

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>>382496192
>Fallen Knight set
Fucking hell

>>382496429
>implying DaS has barely any aesthetic sets as it is anyway

>>382496530
>Never played DaS2
>Never bought boss armor in DaS3

hmm...

>>382496192
I did actually find that area but don't have the item to get in yet.
Its a cool looking area but I doubt it will fix the problems I have with the game.

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>>382495286
bloodborne has a superior aesthetic and the combat is just as fun. however, bloodborne is only playable at a pathetic frame rate.

thus, dark souls wins. but only by default.

Bloodborne doesn't rely on cheap fanservice to mask its flaws.
except for the
>DUDE MOONLIGHT SWORD LMAO

>>382496775
The main game has few really hard bosses. I can admit that. Every so often something will give you some trouble but once you figure them out they're piss easy. The late-game picks up with P. Sully, the last Lord of Cinder, NotFuckingSolaire, the Champ, Dancer, and the DLCs. Persist, anon.

>>382497005
>and the DLCs
Ashes of Ariandel is the worst DLC for the entire series.

>>382497184
Mostly referring to the boss. Ariandel was fucking disappointing. Bigger area than Ariamis yet 1000x less interesting.

>>382495286
DaS2

>>382497443
Shut the fuck up faggot. Go play Bloodborne where all the areas look the same.

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>>382498791
>implying das3 doesn't have the exact same problem
wow I really love going through 3 swamps and a thousand different colored castles

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>>382499491
(You)

Comparing rat shit to bat shit

>>382500000
Which is which in this comparison, also nice quints.

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>>382496530
heh

How does Dark Souls III compare to Dark Souls I?

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>>382499584
>only exception is an area that's already been posted earlier in the thread
Guess what retard? Bloodborne had a snow level as well, its not exactly a novel concept.
Both games have the exact same problems with area and enemy variety. One exception doesn't change that.

>>382500409
Infinitely better.

>>382496156
Your game is still garbage mate

>>382499584
>and a thousand different colored castles

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>>382500434
>Implying it's just one exception

>both games are fantastic pieces of video game history

>hurrr mines better than yours

t. neo /v/

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>people pretending DaS3 wasn't the lowest point in the franchise

I'd have to go with Bloodborne. There's nothing original about DaS3. It tries too hard with the references to old games and even reuses shit from BB. Seems like a last ditch cashgrab.

all dark souls games that arent DS1 are shit

>>382495286
Bloodborne is better and much more original.

>>382495441
Every FromSoft game has hitbox problems

>>382500771

How is CashGrab 3 anything like that?

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>first time playing DaS1
>mfw got beat moonlight butterfly, capra demon, gaping dragon, and havel the rock last Knight after getting the Drake sword
It's finally clicking. Should I buy 3 or SOTFS afterward?

>>382501372
>after getting the Drake sword

kek

You're going to be in for a wild ride come late game.

>>382501301
Not him but Dark Souls 3 probably takes the cake for best boss fights of any video game.

-Nameless King
-Soul of Cinder
-Borreal Valley Dancer
-Lorian and Lothric

>>382501442
I got the axe from the gaping dragon too but can't weild it yet.

>>382501372
SOTFS. Some people think it sucks but it's a very solid entry and 3 is too similar to 1 to play back to back.

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>>382500740
>Another dull looking city/castle area where the only thing breaking up the gray is the piss color in the sky
wow...its almost like...every other area in the game...
We're talking about visuals here not gameplay.
The only difference visually to any other area is how vertical the area is and the ash (more gray) everywhere.
I'm guessing since you had to use an example from the dlc instead of the base game that means you're scraping the bottom of the barrel already?

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>>382501372
>Drake sword
You're ruining the game for yourself guide reading scum.

BB actually feels like something new. DS3 is feels like a rehash.

DaS3 is is most lazy phoned in shit I've ever played. Doesn't even feel like its own game. Miyazaki is a hack fraud and has only made 1 decent and unique souls game

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>>382502003
>has only made 1 decent and unique souls game
Forgot pic.

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>>382501735
>Ruining the game by using a guide for a game that is cryptic for the sake of being cryptic

Hey look it's another "soulsborne" game ranking thread, oh boy I'm glad we can discuss this for the 155518181525th time!

>>382502106
I didn't include a pic because I figured DeS was implied, but yes you're correct.

His only other decent games are For Answer and Last Raven, but even those came after the Armored Core franchise was already dead and gone, so they're not THAT great

>>382495329
>>382495374
(You)

>>382502106
>>382502359
DaS shits all over DeS any day. Even DaS3 is leagues better than DeS. Stop being a hipster snowflake retard.

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>>382502329
>Hiding secrets well is a bad thing
Every "cryptic" thing in the game is 100% optional and missing them won't hamper your enjoyment of the game at all.
Its fine to look that shit up on a second play through but doing it first time around is fucking retarded.
That drake sword guarantees you won't learn the game properly by the time shit gets actually challenging.
I look forward to the threads you'll make in a few weeks complaining about how O&S is literally impossible and /v/ tricked you into playing this piece of shit game.

>>382503485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np5PdpsfINA

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>>382495286
>Which one is better?
It depends on which of me recently played
Dark Souls 3

>>382503759
>hurr demons souls came first so it's a better game
Fuck off

>>382503505
How

>>382502329
Sometimes DaS is just too damn cryptic I agree. I just 100% Blighttown and beat Quelaag and apparently I completely skipped Lower Undead Burg.

>>382495441
Shockwaves exist in Bloodborne? Suddenly I don't feel so bad that it never came to PC.

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Holy fuck this thread, thanks for the laugh, faggots

>>382504986
They're in every game in the series

>>382505732
>the entire series is trash
Good point.

>>382504508
The sword becomes useless in the late game. Starting with an OP weapon will cause you to ignore the game mechanics you are going to need to master to beat the late game. As the other poster said O&S will crush you because of this.

>>382504857
Did you pick the Master Key as your starting gift? You usually need to fight the Capra Demon in the Lower Undead Burg to get the key to the Depths.

>>382500368
VERY hot fit my friend
*tips wolf grass*

Yharnam step is way better than rolling mechanics, the motion looks more natural and faster.

>>382496429
What's wrong with it?
Oh shit.
It's popular isn't it?
Oh god I have to log in and take it off if it's popular, I can't be seen using something everyone else does.

>>382503485
>ten years and you still can't play or enjoy demons souls
NEVER EVER!!!!

>>382509038
des has aged like shit

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>>382495713
>Which one is better? I dont think theres an objective answer.
yes there is, it's bloodborne. also you haven't seen shit bro, see how easy it is in the DLC when the orphan rips you a new asshole

>>382506519
Yes. Started with Thief

>>382509158
It's aged just as much as DaS3 has.

>>382509179
>orphan
You mean L2: the Boss, Episode 2? Ludwig's the actual scrub filter. You get past him and it's smooth coasting.

>>382509158
No it hasn't. It's faster and more responsive than dark souls1. A d for some reason des you tend to not use the lock on after a certain point but in das it's always on.

And dual wield katana is still the greatest weeb shit ever.

DaS3 is easy and unimaginative. There's less content than 2, the gameplay is worse than BB and the setting is just a bad imitation of 1. It's like, the leftovers-goulash of Souls games

>>382509158
Matthewmatosis says otherwise.
>>382509390
DeS would improve so much if it had Poise, Estus Flask replacing grass and drop attacks. It is great but I give Dark Souls the edge in regards to gameplay. I also prefer magic having limited charges instead of MP.

>>382495713
I found BB a lot harder. The combat is more about reflexes and reactionary whereas I'm used to enemies telegraphing attacks in the Souls games. Spammed vials and mashed R1 through most of the game if I'm honest. Severe lack of build variety too, but the amazing aesthetic and atmosphere made up for my gripes.

Dark Souls 3 because it has more enemy variety.

Nioh is better than both

>>382509724
Not him but i watched Matts entire DeS video. Half his reasoning for why it was "better" was because it was original and he even said some of those original things like world tendency wasn't good but it was original so he liked it.

That video was overflowing with bias out the ass. He reminds me of my friend who thought Evolve was going to be good because it was a "original idea" people like that need to be culled. We have enough tried and true game mechanics/setups where a game at this point should be designed tried and true with like 10% originality/mechanical experimentation to see if anything can be passed on.

Just aiming to be original even if it takes down the game as a whole is a idiotic idea. I do agree DaS3 has too many reactionary bosses and could've used some good puzzle ones like DeS but some bosses in DeS are trash and the worst bosses in BB are the puzzle ones. Oh which btw Micolash is Matts "favorite" because hes "original"

>>382509390
probably because you can't adjust mid-swing in das1 when free aiming. first thing i notice whenever i replay it is how stiff the combat feels

>>382509724
>DeS would improve so much if it had Poise
So wrong. Poise ruined PVP.

>>382504358
That's not even close to what he said you faggot.

>>382510198
Because being stunlocked by rapier spam is so much fun.

>>382510042
He's right when he says that the series has thrown away proven ideas though.

>Demon's Souls offered extreme non linearity
>Never done again

>Dark Souls has an interconnected world with design on par with Metroid Prime
>Never done again

>Dark Souls II introduced new enemy placement during NG+
>Never done again

And so forth.

>>382509987
BB is the only Soulsborne game i think is better then Nioh. Nioh has a much better mechanical system and feels like it has a higher skill ceiling then Souls games because of it.

The problem with Nioh is its enemy variety is so bad it drags the game down to below BB in my mind which without such a flaw it'd be so high above the Souls games it'd be comical.

>>382509987
>>382510276
You are now reminded of Nioh's enemy variety.

>>382510273
No need to dodge, just put on heavy armor and use an ultra greatsword. Defensive turtlers should off themselves.

>>382510274
I mean hes not wrong in some aspects but hes wrong in others. Some of those things are good and original some of the things he mentions are bad and were original.

Hell Souls games are Castlevania inspired and basically 3d metrovania in most ways so even though those things only exist once a piece besides NG+ enemy setups they've been done in other games and such before. Every original idea in Demon Souls mechanically like World Tendency is just awful.

DaS1 was the pinnacle of what was good about DeS carrying over. It was slightly non linear and had a great connected world. But From decided to go shit with DaS2 and then ill be pretend to be BB Souls 3.

>>382496959
The framerate is fine you baby. It could be better, yes, but it's perfectly playable.

>>382510517
At least that is fair.

No poise and PvP just becomes about who has the fastest weapon.

>>382510359
Its still better then the core Souls games. Its more challenging unless you abuse some truly broken shit which again you can do in DeS/DaS1/2 PVE as well so who cares.

Its just a shame. The enemies in Nioh have bigger movesets then Souls enemies but fuck its boring when they recycle the enemies you've seen in level 1-10 over and over with different color skins.

Honestly when the other two DLCs come out they should take the new enemies from all three and do a update sprinkling them to other missions.

>>382510042
World tendency was a good idea just not executed well. It works a lot better when you play offline.

>>382510713
>Arguing over Souls PVP

Its like a bad counterpick encouraged fighting game for retards. It has no execution outside of a weird camera tech or two and it has one of the most sheep heavy communities ever. I play DaS3 PVP to pass time randomly and whenever i see a weapon 100x over that was always decent its because some faggy youtuber did a video saying it was good because retards cannot think for themselves.

Jesus Gundyrs was everywhere for a week or two.

>>382510274
Why do they do this?

>>382510926
I don't take it too seriously either, happy to admit I'm not good at PvP at all. It's undoubtedly broken as fuck though and just annoying that fast dex weapons dominate everything.

>>382511228
Fast dex weapons are incredibly easy to punish with parries.

>>382511194
Because this is the worst timeline

>>382511339
>timing based counters
>with From's netcode
Meanwhile, lets nerf one of the coolest STR weapons the series has seen because scrubs don't know how to deal with it.

>>382510274
>Dark Souls has an interconnected world with design on par with Metroid Prime
Are there any other 3D games that have world design like these two?

>>382511610
I honestly don't like this. It's backtracking.

>>382511339
I know but I don't want to play every fight reactively and bait parries for a 1HK riposte. Just want to swing a cunting UGS around without immediately getting stunlocked.

Community fightclubs I enjoy though since people have a wide range of builds

>>382495694
Dark Souls II is an actual Souls game

>>382496192
He literally looks like he's in Bloodborneland right now.

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>>382511782
You really don't like DaS I's world?

60 fps/on pc
can respec
estus system is better than blood vials

no choice at all

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>>382512613
>Instantly mentions PC
NEVER
EVER

>>382512158
O dodn't mind DaS1's woeldNot the guy you are responding to but I didn't mind DaS1's world. Kind of gives you the sense on where to go next.

DaS2's world on the other hand. You have no idea where the hell to go to next.

>>382512705
yes that is a shame

>>382512874
>You have no idea where the hell to go to next.

Like when? Emerald gives you a rough idea and the areas are pretty straightforward. I only got stuck once when told to go to Vendrick's castle and wandered into the IK DLC castle instead.

>>382512613
Oh look someone who hasn't even played BB because HE CAN'T

>>382513185
>>382512705
are these bots?

>>382509308
>You mean L2: the Boss, Episode 2?
How so? Orphan of Kos is kicking my ass even with co-op partners. First phase ain't bad but second phase it goes berserk that it makes evading and healing a pain in the ass when this fucker keeps jumping at you.

Old Hunters DLC bosses are tough as hell Maria is a much faster version of False King Allant, Ludwig goes full berserk, and Living Failures is the easiest of the Old Hunters bosses.

>>382510276
At least killing enemies in Nioh felt more satisfying since you can chop off body parts which is fucking awesome.

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It makes me angry that you'd even consider comparing the fanservice wank fest that is DaS3 to what's probably the best From Software game.

>>382514756

uuuh... no sweetie, BB actually is a pretty mediocre game

>>382514510
>How so?
Step 1: Blunderbuss
Step 2: Visceral
Step 3: There is no step three, it's easy as fuck.

>>382514816
>no sweetie
You sure champ?

>>382514823
Blunderbuss that good? I never used it since it had 20 Blood ATK while the rest of the guns I have are 70+ at their starting levels.

I've been sticking with the Repeater Pistol and have it up to +8 and has been saving my ass at times.

>>382514983
Blunder just makes it easier to parry when the boss twitches a bit to the side. The point is, Orphan fucking dies to parry fishing. It's basically BB's Gwyn.

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Bigger question is why there are so few Lovecraft inspired games that aren't shit or just Cthulhu wank.

Buying Bloodborne thinking you are getting some sort of Van Helsing, Werewolf and blood thing and having it slowly creep to cosmic horror was incredible.

One of those monkey paw things where I really wish it gets a sequel that isnt horrible.

>>382515154
Try Darkest Dungeon out.

>>382514823
He's easy without parries too. Still a good fight though.

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>>382514816

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>>382495286
DS>BB>DeS>DS3>DS2

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>>382517384
>DaS III defense force

>>382515154
Blasphemous

>We will never get DaS II with DaS 3 graphics

fuck

What are the actual chances of there being a dark souls 4?
A Bloodborne 2 I could understand, but the only way any of this souls shitposting could make sense is if they somehow decided to make a fourth game.

>>382518337
Pretty much 0%, Miyazaki is done with Souls.

Will no doubt make a new franchise with exactly the same mechanics though.

>>382519640
It's ok when Miyazaki does it.

>>382512158
Oh no I love the world. It's a 9.5 game. I just found the early backtracking annoying but that's because I don't like metroidvanias. I can't complain too much because you get a warp right when you've seen the world 2 or 3 times or more

>>382500409
no ravioli step

So does dark souls 3 take place in lordran thousands of years after dark souls 1?

>>382510112
yes you can you goddamned imbecile

>>382520991
you absolutely cannot.

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>>382520991
>>382521028
Good arguments.

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>>382496192
>looks like huge explorable city
>just a bunch of hallways

>>382515154
>Slowly
Honestly I think they pulled it too early
as soon as you get to the Cathedral ward you see these pale dudes with magic lanterns and shit, and statues of weird aliens.
I think You should've gone through Old Yharnam, Forbidden woods, and Hemwick first. Before you got too deep into the church stuff.

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>>382517384
BB>DS>DeS>DS3>DS2

>>382495286
The one I can play in 4k at 60fps.

>>382495286
The one I can play in 720p at 28fps.

>>382521808
NEVER
EVER
>>382522145
This.

>>382522182
IT'S NOT FAIR, WHY DOES SONY™ GET ALL THE GREAT GAMES?

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hmmm

>>382501442
>>382501735

You guys DO know that even before Drake Sword you might get Black Knight's Sword which is fat better? It has higher requirements as well, true, and it isn't a 100% chance but one can get it easily.

During my first playthrought I wondered why would ANYONE decide NOT to use it and only later I've found out that it's not a 100% drop. When I did, I realised that 'chance' drops for equipment (not consumeables) shouldn't be a part of DS series. Anyone else hates that part? I can't say it brings anything to the game.

>>382523357
chance drops are nice because it forces players to have a variable gameplay style, if anything its something i appreciated

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>>382522429
>gets hit for a 1/3 of his hp
>1/3 of his hp left
>keeps attacking like an idiot

>>382523357
>even before Drake Sword you might get Black Knight's Sword which is fat better
Thing is, the BKS scales far better into late game. It'll carry you early game, sure, but it performs very well at all points instead of falling off almost immediately after Iron Golem. If swords were racing bikes, Drake Sword would be a bike with training wheels and BKS would just be a motorcycle.
>I can't say it brings anything to the game.
I think it helps build toward more unique experiences among players. When you have one guy who just stuck with his starting longsword discussing the game with a guy who grabbed a BKS or a BKH before Quelaag sharing their stories, it creates a more interesting community and a deeper interest in the game.

But later playthroughs, it is annoying. Random chance always sucks when you actually know how the game works. I'd be more than happy if the Black Knights were just harder to kill in exchange for a guaranteed drop.

>>382495286
Definitely Bloodborne.

>>382495286
Dark souls 2.