How did the portal beam get to the moon so quickly?

>>382477805
That's a good question

Speed of light. It's in the dev commentary.

>>382478041
But why doesn't it travel at the speed of light in the gameplay

So the moon dust gave Cave Johnson cancer or something, does that mean Chell will get it too from being in all those rooms with tiles covered in moon dust?

>>382478041
how did it pass through the van allen radiation belt unscathed? also it doesn't normally move at the speed of light in game in the test chambers, not even close.

>>382478159
Cave Johnson was around it for decades

>>382477805
>it's a game about shooting portals that allow you to teleport
>asking questions about the science behind it

>>382477805
Wasn't it originally longer but the playtesters were too retarded and got confused while waiting for the portal to reach the moon so they made it significantly shorter?

>>382478159
Yes. That's why they're never making another Portal game.

>>382478148
it accelerates duh

>>382478249
Maybe Chell was too, we don't know how many tests she's been through before Portal 1 starts.

>>382478284
should have gone with bullet cam following the beam all the way to the moon

>>382478284
Probably. Valve playtesters are notorious for being absolutely braindead.

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>>382478264

>>382478219
Are portals not "fired" via hitscan?

>>382478462
Well you can take moon dust paint showers in the game.

>>382478462
Didn't he also eat the stuff? I think that might have something to do with it.

How did the facility miles underground have line of sight to the moon

>>382478148
>>382478219
In gameplay, the portal is a hitscan projectile so it's instant. I don't know for the radiation belt desu.

>>382477805
It would only take about two seconds to reach the moon, traveling at the speed of light.

>>382478148
It does. The portal gun is hitscan, the "projectile" trail is just the delayed particle effect.

>>382478264
>a game focused around physics puzzles
>people question the physics
duh

>>382478639
There you go. It fires at the "speed of light", there's no reason to suspect otherwise.

I actually thought it was kind of clever that there was a slight delay there. If you want to piss and moan about internal consistency, how about the fact that you fire portals on moving platforms almost immediately before the Wheatley showdown

>>382478542
It's

A

isnt moon rocks just tegular gravel found on earth?

>>382478542
A because the carts themselves have no starting momentum. It would just be like putting a cup over the top of them, with the portal being the cup. I don't know a good analogy but I don't see why it would cause one to shoot off. The game said it's the player's momentum that counts, not the portal's.

>>382478763
I believe the explanation for that is that they're only moving along the same plane as the portal, i.e. not backwards/forwards, which apparently doesn't disrupt the portal.

>>382478717
>a game focused around pretend physics
>people question the pretend physics with real scientific questions
dug

>Portal 1 back story actually funny
>Portal 2 makes Glados a real person and erases Portal 1's back story
I don't hate the new stuff just disappointing

>>382477805
In a game about portals, that shit is unbelievable

>>382478914
what didthey erase?

>tfw valve is dead

>>382478815
No because if it was like earth gavel it wouldn't be moon rocks, it would be earth rocks.

>>382478914
>erases Portal 1's back story
not at all. GLaDOS was still originally a de-icing system. Caroline is just the 'GL' in GLaDOS.

>>382478542
A

>>382479139
>GLaDOS was still originally a de-icing system.

Where does it say this? I don't doubt you I'd just like to know since I played it last week and never heard that.

>>382479264
maybe I should sleep

>>382479264
Who said it did? It had 13,000 people playing the other day, which is IIRC more than SFV had at its peak.

>>382478542
It's B. If it's A how can any of the carts move out of the blue portal? If they had no momentum out of the blue portal they would either both form a 1 atom thick super dense wall at the beginning of the orange portal, or stop the platform from moving.

I kinda want a Portal 3 more than HL3 at this point. There's no way they can make a HL3 live up to the hype, but the puzzle nature of Portal means it can always be open for new ideas while using familiar gameplay.

>>382478914
Portal 1: Jokes were in, but happened naturally and were spread out perfectly.
Portal 2: JOKES JOKES JOKES JOKES JOKES EVERY 5 STEPS JOKES JOKES

>>382479580
>every single writer at valve has left the company
>he still thinks they're going to make half life 3

>>382479580
Me too. But how would it be?

a) be P-Body/Atlas/another robot doing puzzles
b) prequel with Chell doing puzzles
c) someone new doing puzzles
d) prequel set in the golden 1950s age of Aperature
e) ???

>>382479464
Because they aren't moving out of the portal, the portal moves around them

>>382479704
Someone new perhaps, with references to Chell or something.

>>382479679
P1 had jokes at almost every test chamber too but they were more subtle.

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>>382477805
>shoot a portal at the sun

>>382479580
As much as I'd like a Portal 3, there are not enough writers left at Valve. And despite common belief on /v/, writers are important for games.

>>382479850
It wouldn't stick. Would probably be the same result as pointing a flashlight at the sun.

>>382479850
would that even work

>>382477805
>>382478148
>>382478219
Who the fuck cares? It was a cool idea.

>>382479850
Would that wipe out the entire Earth? Would the entirety of the sun flow into and cover Earth at the speed of light?

>>382479921
YEAH I ALSO NEED SOME

GOOD

WRITERS

SPAAACE

SPAAACEEE I WANNA GO TO SPAAAACE

>>382479930
>point flashlight at the sun
>sun points a flashlight back at you

>>382479850
Nothing would happen, the reason it worked with the moon is because that's the material aperture science uses.

>>382478815
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_meteorite

>>382480060
how did we hear wheatly talk if there's no sound in space? checkmate atheists

>>382480105
>defunct core acts defunct

Reeeeeeeee

>>382480175
Also the pie is lie bro xD

>>382478148

It does. That's the delay between when you click and when the portal opens.

>>382480152
What if you covered the sun in moon dust first?

>>382478159
Moon powder gave him cancer. Painted on the wall, it may be another matter.

>>382480415
what if you shot it at a sun made of ice?

>>382478249
Didn't he eat some of it too?

>>382479764
Well, there's nothing stopping the portal from continuing moving around the second cart, is there? So it should keep moving.

>>382477805
Portal also only attach to moonsurface.

For Portal 3 they should make a third portal type, so orange, blue, and another, green I guess. That would keep the series fresh and push it forward.

>>382480152
Its not like Moon dust is required.

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>>382479850
>shoot a portal at the sun
>shoot another one at an ice sun

>>382480838
>-1000 degrees C
>possible

>>382480838
>shoot portal at 2 suns
Would it reach 2000?

>>382477805
How did she survive space?

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>>382477805
How did the ceiling open up to reveal the moon anyways? Weren't you thousands of meters underground?

>>382480946
>questions -1000 but not the 1000 sun

>>382480991
the power of friendship

>>382480164
Sound traveled by air that also came through the portal

>>382480991
There was air coming from the room blasting into her face, plus it only went on like 10 seconds

>>382480756
>Enter blue portal
>Exit orange AND green portal
Genius

>>382480991
you actually can survive it briefly, you won't immediately freeze or explode and she wasn't really in vacuum as there was a column of air being sucked out with her.

The portal speeds up dependent on how far the target is away i suppose.

Either that or it just accelerates quickly up to the speed of light.

>>382481050
No, GLaDOS room is near the surface, just like in Portal 1. During the fight part of the ceiling caved in.

>>382481291
>up to the speed of light.
>>>/x/

>>382478879

No, on the developer commentary they talk about how it explicitly breaks the rules, but it's still intuitive to do and feels good and no one seemed bothered by it in the moment when playtesting, so they just don't care that it broke the rules.

There's really no explanation or justification except by the fans. The devs openly admit they broke the rules and there's no explanation for it other than it made for a satisfying gameplay element.

>>382481157
but you hear wheatley scream as he went off to space in the end

>>382481481
Rule of drama

If I put a portal on a door and then opened the door, what the portal just vanish?

What if someone was crossing into it at that precise second? Would they just disappear?

>>382480619

>>382481553
whatever was through the portal would get cut off probably

>>382478563
no, the portals open a few frames after, and the projectile actually travels across the room. This is how in some segments you can stand on top of open portals and shoot the next portal, stepping back through before it opens and stepping back into the portal again once the new one has.

If portals can't move, how can they be put on anything on earth?

>>382481969
The earth freezes in place while any portals are open.

>>382481553
>what the portal just vanish
With the exception of the neuron toxin thingy (which is notable because that one is a portal you don't enter), that's exactly how it happens in Portal 2.

>>382479237
I think it's somewhere near the end of the first game, something about it in slideshows inside offices. Aperture Science's competition against Black Mesa's pipe de-icing system was creating a fully sentient AI.
Also, the portal gun was developed as an alternative to shower curtains.

>>382481969
>>382482101
Half life's earth stopped moving after the combine invasion

>>382481969
Something something relativity, something something gravity etc.

Why didn't Cave Johnson use the portal gun for world domination?

>>382481553
Portals aren't Stargate wormholes, there's no transmission phase. If you were to stick your hand through a portal and cancel the portal somehow, it would be cut off at the equivalent to the event horizon, you retaining your stub and the rest of your hand falling off at the other end.

>>382481393
>There's really no explanation or justification except by the fans.

theres no explanation for justification for anything in this game that isnt made up.

you know portal guns arent real right?

>>382482198
Really? So there's just a side of the world permanently frozen and dark? That doesn't make sense. The combine were there to siphon all the tasty resources

Why didn't Cave Johnson use the portal gun for space travel?

>>382478284
It was. But if you fire a shot at the moon, and nothing happens, you fire again at something else.

If they really wanted to follow the idea, they either needed a zoom camera following it to the moon surface, or do something to make it clear.

>>382478540
This isn't even Volvo playtesters, its good game design versus bad game design.

>>382482287

I'm just saying that the developers didn't make up a reason for it to work in the universe like the poster I replied to was implying. Only the autistic fans did that. The developers themselves just said, "Yeah, it breaks a rule but you probably didn't notice your first time through and it was fun, so why does it matter?"

>>382480175
>It's retarded ON PURPOSE!

>>382479764
The exit portal is stationary. The only way they can get out of it is by moving on their own.

>>382482474
Yes? It's like 90% of the users on this board.

>>382481393
It's not satisfying because it bothered me.

Did they write in the whole moon powder thing specifically so they could do that in the finale?

>>382482218
Because he's a good, honest man.

>>382478284

>Valve playtesters in charge of being smart

I fully believe HL3 was cancelled because of them. I hope Valve dies in a fire

>>382479704
>prequel set in the golden 1950s age of Aperature
Fuck, now I want that

>>382482264
Actually having this happen, a portal getting closed right as you enter it and still getting sucked through to somewhere would be something cool that could happen in the game.

It could go to some kind of massive portal factory where the portals are really transmitted from, or some kind of failsafe, or maybe to a meeting with the G-Man.

>>382482218
Too busy fighting off Mantis-Men

>>382482218
Not enough moon rocks.

>>382482295
nah I was just messing with you

>>382482691
probably

>>382478869
This, pretty much.

>>382482803
Why didn't Cave Johnson use the portal gun to teleport to the moon to get moonrocks then?

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>>382482756
Like this?

>>382480152
it worked with the moon because the moon is solid, the sun is gas. do you not know elementary school science?

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>>382482812
oh

>>382478542
It's neither.
The box on top would just fall.

>>382482218
There's no money in it

>>382481316
Don't you ride an elevator to surface from that room for like 2 solid minutes in the ending cutscene?

>>382483014
> the sun is gas
plasma

>>382483076
But he wouldn't need money if he dominated the world

>>382483158
>>>wouldn't need money
You sicken me

>>382480946
Negative temperatures exist
(They're extremely hot)

>>382483093
same thing retard

>>382482737
No Valve were pretty open about that at Dev Days.
They weren't working as hard on games because of the concerns that Microsoft was going to throw a switch and disable third party app stores.
They needed Linux to be over a certain threshold for game development to be viable again and apparently its almost but not quite there so they're working on games again hoping that the Linux user base will keep growing so by the time the games are ready the audience they need will be there.

If you want to help make HL3 a reality, switch to Linux, or at the very least, don't use Windows 10.

>>382482218
It would upset the sentient cloud.

>>382482575
And you think that's a good thing? /v/ users confirmed for the best writers in the industry.

>>382482691
I wouldn't doubt it.

Only other thing I can think of is to explain why portal guns were never in Half-Life, since it has no appropriate surfaces, but I doubt Valve was thinking about it that deeply.

>>382483267
>different fundamental states of matter
>same thing retard

>>382480946
are you retarded?

What would happen if you shot a portal onto a sphere? If the other portal was a on a flat surface would looking through the portal bend the view weirdly (like projecting something flat onto sphere)? And what would happen if you put something through it?

>>382483410
>since it has no appropriate surfaces

Moon dust is optimum, but not required. There are all kinds of regular cement walls you put portals on when you go behind the scenes.

>>382478219
It accelerate up to the speed of light, there, fixed.

>>382483518
Plasma is a type of gas.

>>382483084
yeah, but I think after you beat Wheatly you pass out and are put back in your holding room and then get pulled out again when GLaDOS says her goodbyes. When you exit after the credits it's a sunny day, and the battle happens at night, so obviously some time has passed.

>>382483560
That would be neat. Like looking through a fish eye lens

>>382477805
>How did the portal beam get to the moon so quickly?
The Portal 2 "moon" is only a few hundred meters away from "earth".
Due to console limitation Source engine map size is limited to a few kilometers in diameter.
Hope that answers the questions.

>>382483405
it's board culture at this point

>>382478815
the powder on the moon isn't rounded by erosion, it's basically like ground glass. It plays hell on lungs and it sticks to everything, also according to apollo astronauts, it smells bad.

>>382483752
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics)
>is one of the four fundamental states of matter, while the others are solid, liquid, and gas.

There's some similarities between a gas and plasma, like there are some similarities between a gas and a liquid but its incorrect to claim they're the same thing.

Stars are big balls of plasma because there's nuclear fusion going on in them.
If it was just gas it would be a nebula.

>>382483860
>The Portal 2 "moon" is only a few hundred meters away from "earth".

Damn, that's one tiny moon, then.

>>382478815
Moon rocks actually give you lung cancer in real life, same as asbestos.

>>382484114
TLDR

>>382483860
No shit sherlock, but in the game it actually takes around 1.2822 seconds to the portal to open after shooting it to the moon, wich is exactly what the light take to travel that distance, its a scripted event.

Did they ever explain how Glados was all broken into pieces by the first one and when you see her "corpse" in the second it's all put together but still just lying there like it never flew out and landed all over the parking lot?

>>382479850
the sun doesn't have a solid surface

>>382481481
yeah, just like the air

>>382484102
>The Moon fucking stinks
That's an interesting fact to know

>>382484192
>Did they ever explain how Glados was all broken into pieces by the first one and when you see her "corpse" in the second it's all put together but still just lying there like it never flew out and landed all over the parking lot?
Volvo retconned the story by patching the ending out of the first game.
Like 1984, no joke.

>>382483560
I don't think it would form.

>>382484415
If it couldn't form there how could it form on the moon? Or on any surface at all for that matter since nothing is perfectly straight (I know it's just a video game but it's interesting to think about).

>>382484353

You fucking serious? Is there a video of this somewhere so I don't have to re-download and re-beat the whole game?

>>382484595
The moon is relatively flat enough.

>>382484353
what's the ending now?

>>382478542
B. the image could be redone to have the unglued box already on the other end of the portal and it would be the same thing. As the glued box gets pushed through the portal, it pushes the first box out of the way, adding momentum to it, which it would keep after the glued box stops moving.

>>382484729
>>382484602

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq9oKn-SJCU

Not much actually but the last few seconds.

>>382484721
Depends on what scale. The surface is mostly somewhat gravel like/dusty

>>382480060
A cool idea with a very poorly thought execution, specially since it shits on the established fact that getting moon rocks is supposed to be expensive and hard.

>>382478148
It does, you fucktard. You click, and about 1.5 seconds later the portal opens.

Replay the damn game.

>>382478869
It's actually b.
Has to do with frames of relativity.

Technically when the portal is moving towards the cart you can say that the portal moving is stationary while the carts are being pushed towards the portal. They are principally the same. Just has to do with how you're looking at the event.

In Portal 1, the portal projectile took time to travel to its destination. In Portal 2, this was changed to be instant.

>>382484890
Oh so it just drags you back in. I honestly forgot that wasn't the original ending

>>382478159
No, he got cancer from hanging out with the retard playtesters.
If only they could cut it out like they cut content.

>>382484890

That I already knew. Are you implying the robot who grabs Chell also grabbed all of GLaDOS's parts and re-assembled them and put the entire room and ceiling back together and just left her turned off?

>>382485419
No I think the original ending was just the static camera without the dragging

>>382483093
Actually, its nuclear fusion. Its neither plasma or gas, faggots.

>>382485485

Yeah, I know, but that ending change happened before Portal 2 was announced and it was wildly publicized by blogs. Still doesn't really explain a dilapidated GLaDOS in Portal 2 when her parts are strewn across the parking lot in the ending of Portal 1 still.

I find the Half-Life/Portal stories really interesting. It's such a shame we haven't had a new entry in a while.

>>382483752
>Plasma is a type of gas.
But it's not. That's like saying liquid is a type of solid.

How long is HL2 Ep 1? I feel like playing some HL but don't want to sit through a long game.

>>382479921
>And despite common belief on /v/, writers are important for games.
You're on one of the very, very few parts of the video game conmunity that criticizes Bethesda for this.

>>382486716
It is. How do you think ice exists dipshit?

>>382480105
>broken core spouts annoying nonsense
>Valve Drones repeat it ad nauseam
Says more about the people that play this game than the game itself.

>>382486763
About 2 hours

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>>382483060
large brain detected

>>382484353
They only added the party escort robot, she still gets blasted across the parking lot.

>Stuck deep underground in an enormous science facility
>Hole in the ceiling straight up to the night sky
>Extended elevator ride to the surface immediately after the fight

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>>382487078
Delete this right now.

>>382483538
I love it when literal mongoloids try to science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero

>>382478542
C. Carts end up smashed. Portals close when the surface they are on starts moving.

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>>382484161

>>382482625
You're legitimately autistic if your enjoyment of a silly puzzle game is hindered by the realism of the physics.

>>382487896
>dude just turn off your brain

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Portal has the best lore

the cake is a lie xD

>>382488154
if only i could find the gamers at this party xd

>>382487953
Yep, it's autism alright.

>>382488282
i crafted a portal gun myself even though i didn't beat the game, i'm such a nerd haha

>>382488282
i hate gamers jesus christ

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>Valve will never make videogames again
>they will never make Half Life 3
>they will never use their immensively popular IP's again

>>382488660
>they will never use their immensively popular IP's again
That's half-false, as they are still sticking around with Team Fortress and Counter-Strike.

>>382488154
Why did this ever become a meme? It's not even funny.

>>382488840
>Hacker Strike
>Downgraded Team Fortress 2: 3rd World edition

Sure thing buddy.

>>382487078
wow looks like portal did it before Dark souls 2

>>382488660
>>382488840
>>382489073
>acknowledges that Valve is starting to show their age
>still wants them to make HAlf Life 3
Let it go. Let Gordon Freeman rest.

>>382484340
The cheese is old.

>>382488660
they might never make half life 3 and honestly i dont care anymore, i was bitter for 8 years, its 10 years now and ive grown out of it

but to say that they arent making L4D3 right NOW is just dumb. Hell id even believe sequels to their currently most succesful games, CS GO and Dota 2

team fortress 3 is far fetched however not out of the scope of possibilities, the franchise needs to vent out and just start with a blank slate

>>382489161
>Let Gordon Freeman rest.
I JUST FUCKING CANT.

>>382481254
You won't freeze or explode in a vacuum.
A vacuum is a very good insulator so you won't lose heat and freeze, especially if you are in sunlight then the opposite would happen and you would be roasted.
As for the exploding, your skin and other membrane tissues can easily resist the boiling pressure from your internal fluids, you might experience mild swelling and bruising in certain areas, notably the face and groin, but definitely no exploding.

>>382482287
>you know portal guns arent real right?
Im replying to a two hour old post. Dont bully. Any suspension of disbelief is broken the minute you break the laws/rules of whatever universe you create. I really didnt care because by the time I realized what happened it didn't matter anymore, but imagine if they did that at the middle of the game.

Where was it ever said portals can't be on moving surfaces anyway?

>>382490904
The first Portal game.

>>382490979
Yeah but where? I don't remember that at all.

>>382490904
>>382490979
Didn't Portal 2 have a section with moving portals?

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>>382477805
Because it's a video game

>>382477805
The beam travels at the speed of light. They actually timed it so that the portal's blink on the Moon appears after exactly twice the time it takes for light to reach the Moon.

Here's an interesting question: the portal starts sucking them in after you see the blink, but shouldn't that happen before you see the light from the portal on the Moon, at the halfway point?

>>382490904
Well they broke their own rule considering the moon is always in motion

>>382491493
BUT HEY THATS JUST A THEORY
A GAME THEORY

>>382491148
Yes. Twice, in fact. With contradicting outcomes.

>>382492369
One was the neurotoxin pipes, what was the other?

>>382492369
I know of the one where you redirect lasers to cut the gas pipes, but what's the other one? I'm guessing portals disappear on those moving platforms?

>>382491850
>>382491493
Remember when Mat pat was good and not a sellout?

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>>382492964
Was he ever anygood?

>>382483346
What a crock of shit.

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>>382492559
>>382492645
Yeah. There is a part where the game shows a portal disappearing when the surface it is on starts moving.

hol up

in what expansion does portal ever take place on a moon

>it's an anons can't grasp the concept of internal consistency thread

/v/ u r a qt

Thanks for the spoilers you fucking asshole.

>>382478284
No

They locked you into the sequence and only gave you the moon to shoot at

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Who should play Cave Johnson? I vote Hugh Laurie.

>>382494082
There's a bunch of moonbase custom maps

>>382487450
I love when figurative mongoloids miss the entire point and still want to feel superior. A -1000C sun is just as much a joke as the 1000C sun, asspie.

Im still upset that they never release new official map sets.

>>382479580
play portal stories: mel while you wait, althought it's fan made it's really well done.

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>>382495145
>That basement in co-op where you can access the first DLC map set has left and right arrows implying they were going to make more
>They never did
>No more official bro-op kino

>>382477805
magnets

>>382478219
It's racist and sexist to say it didn't. Women of Minority can make anything happen if they put their mind to it.

>>382494915
Why not the guy that voiced him who is an actual actor, J.K. Simmons? He played an amazing J. Jonah Jameson in the first Spiderman trilogy with Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi.