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Can someone please explain to me why this ugly, boring piece of shit is supposed to be a classic?
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Because it's old

That's literally the only reason why /v/ likes it

It's a steaming pile of shit
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It's very hard to play today without mods, which can make it much more enjoyable. I can never go back to playing without Accurate Attack and Tireless running. OpenMW also improves a lot.
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>>382476849
Nostalgia and nostalgia alone.
Main quest was the best in the series by far.
Everything else ranged from shit to serviceable.
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It's only a classic compared to oblivion and skyrim
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nostalgia
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>>382476849
Nostalgia. If you claim an older game is good you're a patrician.
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>>382476967
It would be steaming if it was fresh
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>>382476849
Cool as fuck setting and no handholding
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>>382477169
I though nu/v/ was just a meme, but fucking wow was I wrong
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Nostalgia goggles are needed, and like >>382477169 said you need mods to make it playable by today's standards. I still love it, but even I agree it has not aged well. You need to have a fondness/tolerance for clunky RPGs made in the early 2000s.
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>>382477169
might as well just turn on god mode if you're going to play like that, it's the same thing
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>>382476849
First original setting in a game in like 30 years.
Can't finish everything in a single play through.
Spells that were too cerebral for millenial babies and had to be phased out.
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It's a shit fucking meme game

TERRIBLE

Worst RPG ever

If you praise this old clunky garbage then you must be autistic
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>>382478480
> Implying there is a worse RPG than Fable III
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>>382476849
it's not, only bethesdrones who've never played any other rpgs think it's good
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>>382476849
Because despite all its faults it's better than the rest.
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>>382476849
>Can someone please explain to me why this ugly, boring piece of shit is supposed to be a classic?

they fell for the open world meme
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>>382478480
you've never played an RPG in your life
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I'm very much enjoying playing it for the first time and the only mod I'm using is MGE XE. The game looks lovely just with new lighting, shaders and view distance.
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I love how many comfy Morrowind threads there are thanks to either normies bitching about it or nerds falseflagging.

Post comfy homebases.
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>>382478458
The only thing you would lock yourself out of was two out of the three great houses I believe.
There was a way to get the rewards for 2 of 3 though.

Everything else could be done on a single playthrough.
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>>382476849
I think you mean Skyrim and Oblivion, you don't have to be a nostalgia cuck to see this is the best game in the series
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>>382478818
I played enough RPGs in my life to know the difference between a good RPG and a shit RPG

Morrowind is trash

Old ugly piece of shit with shit combat, shit animations, shit everything. boring quests, boring NPCs, FUCKING BORING
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Good thread op
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>>382479069
Alright, that's cute. But what is your favorite RPG?

If you're the Gothic fag I'm going to laugh in your face
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>>382479069

I'm guessing you also think Final Fantasy XIII is an RPG.
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I've spent thousands of hours on Morrowind yet I've never finished Oblivion or Skyrim. I find Oblivion/Skyrim boring as shit. And I don't know why. Maybe it was because I was a teenager when Morrowind came out and enjoyed vidya more back then. IDK. Morrowind didn't hold your hand like the other games do so there was a sense of actual exploration and travel. It felt like your skills actually mattered. Make your own custom shit, without mods.
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Gothic 2 makes morrowind look like a hollow ghost world. How do you even role play in morrowind. It's more empty than real life.
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>>382478915
Balmora Comfyclub.
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>>382479624
Ah, the clown has arrived.
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>>382479394
I ain't about sucking tits but I really want to grab, squeeze, and stuff those in my mouth
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>>382479394
how can a pair of breasts be so perfect
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>>382479394
disgusting fake tits
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>>382479624
>complains about roleplaying
>while praising a linear action game where you play as a set character
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>>382479394
Those are among the best tits I've ever seen.
Thanks, /v/.
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>>382479997
>squeeze
gl squeezing fake tits
>>382480012
are you blind or just plain retarded?
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>>382479208
>automatically assumes that my favorite RPG must be some rpg that you don't like

shows how delusional and pathetic morrowshits are
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>>382479394
>tfw 3dpd actually makes you feel something
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>>382480170
>>382480012
>>382479997
>>382479394
samefag
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TRULY THE BEST RPG EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>382480195
>didn't deny it
>doesn't have an argument
>still hasn't cited a game he thinks is good

lol
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Why is it that dropped candles in Morrowind project their own light but not in skyrim, oblivion or in the fallouts?
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I like boobs
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>>382480501
source
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>>382480482
just because I don't wan't to argue with some retard like you doesn't mean you "won".

there are plenty of RPGs that are better than Morrowind. Some of them aren't even my favorite, but still shit on morrowind
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>>382480582
Those are about as real as a useful women's studies diploma.
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>>382480273
LMAO why has a pair of tits got you so mad that's pathetic
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>>382476849
RPG that makes you think about what you are actually doing instead of following a pointer all the time.

That is a pretty big reason right there.
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>>382480582
you can literally see the scars under her boobs
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>>382480676
So you're just conceding then. Thanks for the talk bud
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>>382480714
Sauce on that particular headless chicken, goodtaste anon?
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>>382480501

I don't care about the size of the tits but I do care about the size of the nipples. Giant pepperoni nipples are disgusting.
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>>382480676
>just because I don't wan't to argue with some retard like you
Except you're still arguing with him and you and he's right, you can't even answer the fucking question. What a fucking faggot.
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>>382476849
Its fanbase are some of the most hardcore nostalgiafags you will EVER meet and refuse to accept any criticism of the game. It's been like that since Oblivion.
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>>382480798
nsfw posts are a rule violation, plus it IS samefag
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>>382480501
Mhmm. Mhmm. Yes. I see.
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I tried playing it, uninstalled after 5 minutes

Almost made me vomit
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>>382479394
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>>382481041
Good, go back to TF2/Dota/CSGO/Overwatch
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>>382480947
Oh noes, not a rule violation!
Gtfo babby.
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>>382481173
Ah, the classic "go back to X" response

as expected from morrowind cucks
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>>382477491
The main quest is one of the weakest parts of Morrowind.
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>>382480714
>that delicious slutwear
FUCK
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>>382481359
how someone get girls to do that
why are there so many webms/gifs of girls doing this

is it money
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>>382481561
what am I looking at here?
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>>382481561
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>>382481561
is this one of the fukushima radiation victims
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>>382481567
Attention
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>>382481628
SC2 competitive scene.
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are mods on /v/ a myth?
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>>382481628
my guess would be epileptic dude in some third world shit hole constrained in some makeshift contraption to keep him from hurting himself
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>>382476849
Amazing lore, freedom, revolutionary environments for an RPG, atmosphere, soundtrack, etc.

That said, the game has some pretty terrible design choices, mainly in combat and quest design. The way I see it, you either fall in love with the culture and history or Morrowind enough to overlook the flaws, or you'll have a miserable experience.

An example would be the Morag Tong. Learning about the origins of the guild and the role assassinations play in Morrowind was really interesting to me. How assassination is basically a socially acceptable means of ending a dispute among Morrowind's elite and how the Empire legally sanctioned the guild so that Morrowind's assimilation into the Empire would go smoother. I was always excited to progress in that questline because I cared about who my next target was and the implications it might have, even though it was always: go to place, kill person, repeat.

Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood is the very opposite. The quests are objectively better designed with a lot more variety, and they're fun in their own right. But the Dark Brotherhood isn't as big a part of Cyrodiil's culture; it's not unique to Cyrodiil and the targets are almost all irrelevant. In Morrowind, the conflicting Great Houses, factions, mages, etc, dictate who's going to be assassinated. You might be ending a feud between rival Telvanni, or you might be taking out someone who's impeding the Empire's expanse into Morrowind. In Oblivion, you're almost always just killing some random person because some other random person wants them dead, and it gives little insight to the world you're trying to get immersed in.
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>played around 15 rpgs in my life
>somehow THIS shit is praised as a masterpiece by underage nu-/v/

why
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>>382482785
one word that explains it all: nostalgia
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>>382482785
/v/ has shit taste, gothic 2 came out in the same year and it a million times better
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>>382483115
They're also completely different games.
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>>382482038
Human being are incapable of moderating /v/. We need some sort of Echelon 8.4 or something.
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>>382483775
I like how they removed one of the posts but the rest are still here
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>>382480454
I've never been able to enjoy morrowind, but that webm is laughable. His fatigue is at 0, no wonder he can't hit a thing.
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>>382483531
they're both rpgs, that's the point
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>>382484000
Welcome to the wonderful world of normies bitching about Morrowind.
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Less shitposting, more pornposting.
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>>382484042
Bugatti Veyron and a generic cheap family saloon and both cars.
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>>382483923
Novocaine wore off early.
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>>382484303
it isnt normies. its gothic fags. they think gothic 2 is gods gift to rpgs.
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>>382484042
Sure, but that's like comparing Ultima and Mass Effect. They're both RPGs but they have almost completely different design and goals.

The first 2 Gothics are about small, but meticulously realized worlds and a challenging, detailed combat system. Morrowind is about a large world with detailed lore and RPG systems that let you approach problems in a free-form manner.
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>>382484947
Why can't we be friends? RPGs are dead, last thing you want to do is have fanbases of the few last decent ones bitching about one another.
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nah.

i was an oblivion kid, didnt like skyrim all too much, and went to buy morrowind on a simple suggestion by an old friend.

yeah. you walk slow. yeah. its 2003 graphics. yeah. swing and a miss.
those are all products of the time it was released, having gone in without nostalgia goggles or taking a heavy dose of /v/ cynicism, morrowind is extremely enjoyable, and the dated graphics and models just give it a sort of nostalgic charm, even if i was over a decade late to the party.
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>>382485189
im not the one starting morrowind hate threads or gothic 2 is the greatest rpg ever threads. its gothic 2 fags.
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b
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>>382485776
you're delusional kek

there were countless morrowind hate threads before the gothic guy even started making gothic threads

I hate to break it to you but gothic fans aren't the only ones who think morrowind is shit
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>>382484042
>Gothic is an RPG
loving every laugh
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>>382485776
>its gothic 2 fags

It's not. It's just gothickun. A single butthurt kraut who can't stand that Morrowind is more popular than Gothic 2.

I imagine most Gothic fans are like myself and also appreciate Morrowind and good rpgs in general.
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>>382486326
explain how it's not an RPG

>inb4 no reply
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>>382480676
Ok McCarthy, let me guess you have a list of all the good rpgs but you don't want to show it to us yet right?
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>>382476849
you'd understand if you were born before 2004
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>>382486342

>>382486253


you're all so delusional that you think every single morrowind hate thread is made by a gothic fan

This is top level butthurt and delusion

top kek
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>>382486373
see
>>382480072
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>>382486490
im not sure what you're saying

What exactly makes it not RPG?
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>>382486342
I hate that fucking guy, I love Gothic but he single handedly made its image so much worse on /v/ fucking hell
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>>382486562
it's missing the roleplaying
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>>382486651
Where is it missing the roleplaying?
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>>382486373
>don't create a character
>don't even create your character's personality
>don't have any meaning impact on the story
>builds boil down to how you kill things rather than how the game is played
>combat can be mastered without any reliance on character skill

It's an action game with rpg elements.
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>>382486473
Most of them are and you can tell because he always uses the same webms and pastas.
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>>382486794
>don't even create your character's personality
But you do by choosing different dialogue options.
Just like in Morrowind for example. Even tho you create your own character, you don't create his personality. You can only create its personality through dialogue options.

>don't have any meaning impact on the story
yes it does

>builds boil down to how you kill things rather than how the game is played
Not true, you can for example learn pickpocket and DEX to steal quest items from people. Also this doesn't mean whether a game is RPG or not

Also answer this.

To you Planescape Torment is not an RPG but FIFA is a full blown RPG because you can create your own character there?
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>>382486684
Halo 3 is a roleplaying game because your role is Master Chief
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>>382486651
i've played hundreds of hours in morrowind across more characters than i care to remember. i'm one of those roleplaying tards and that's what keeps me going.
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>>382476849
How's it compare to Neverwinter Nights? 1 or 2?
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>>382487270
I didn't say Morrowind wasn't a roleplaying game
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Is there a more cancerous place than vivec city?
I'm in my first playthrough and this fucking shithole gives me a headache.
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>>382487442
Too much to do and see? Not enough quest markers for you?
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>>382487061
>But you do by choosing different dialogue options

You really don't. Gothicguy is always smarmy and confused.

>Just like in Morrowind for example. Even tho you create your own character, you don't create his personality. You can only create its personality through dialogue options

You get almost no decent dialog options in Morrowind. The best you get is taunt and admire, which amount to basically nothing.

>yes it does

You don't. They make it look like your choices matter in the second act but it only takes a handful of quests before you're back to the same shit.

>Not true, you can for example learn pickpocket and DEX to steal quest items from people

That amounts to maybe 1% of the gameplay. You spend dozens of hours fighting.

>Also this doesn't mean whether a game is RPG or not

It's part of it.

>To you Planescape Torment is not an RPG but FIFA is a full blown RPG because you can create your own character there?

No, having or lacking any one RPG element doesn't quality or disqualify being an RPG. But if a game lacks all of the elements I listed, then it sure as hell isn't an RPG.
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>>382487403
oh sorry i misread my mistake sorry again
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>>382487442
Cheat yourself a bunch of hoptoad rings and just skip through the whole place. Vivec is not the most disappointing place in the game but it is by far the worst waster of player's time, especially if it's your first time and you're exploring.
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I just started playing Morrowind for the first time last week, and I'm having a great time with it. Even the combat isn't that bad once you stop trying to fight with 0 fatigue.
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>>382487310
Doesn't have anything in common with NWN games?
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>>382488040
might as well activate god mode and go straight to dagoth ur to end the game if you can't stand playing the game and playing the role of a character

>>382488284
NO! You're not allowed to be sensible and intelligent on nu/v/!!!
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>>382488040
or you could just use the gondoliers and take 5 minutes to explore around and learn how the architecture works

or you could be like me and think the "waistworks" are the fucking sewers and spend ages trying to find huleeya in the foreign quarter plaza

>>382488387
only we can make /v/ a better place, anon. the future starts with you!
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>>382488387
I see you're following your own advice.
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>>382488730
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I find it boring, like all WRPGs. Not a single interesting character for me to give a fuck about.
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>>382488658
Vivec's gondolas are positioned in such a way as to be as unhelpful as possible.
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>>382489237
what are you talking about

the foreign quarter gondola is literally on the same side where you cross the bridge into the city after taking the silt strider

from their, you can go to the arena, redoran and telvanni districts, and from the telvanni district you can go to the temple, hllalu and st olms/st delyn cantons. its easy once you stop being autistic and taking the long way around the buildings, since the gondolas are all positioned close to a corner
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>>382488730
epic. if you don't like RPGs then don't play them

>>382488832
nice samefag
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>>382489693
It was actually an unintended (You).
I wanted to state how I don't care for this thread.
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>>382487442
>Is there a more cancerous place than vivec city?

wolverine hall
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>>382487061
>Just like in Morrowind for example. Even tho you create your own character, you don't create his personality. You can only create its personality through dialogue options.
And Morrowind barely has any dialogue options.
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>>382487310
NWN and TES are very different. Although if I had to choose one, I'd take NWN1 over Morrowind any day.
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