Ruin, has come to our Darkest Dungeon thread

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>>382469284
>start game
>grab a second highwayman
>kick one to get more slots
>realize I kicked dismas instead of the other shitty one
I feel bad

>>382469284
>CURIOUS

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What are some good party lineups for Veteren dungeons and up?

Before that I feel like you can run anything and win, but once I hit lvl 3 everything's harder than the start.

What should I expect when I buy this game?

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>>382471283

>>382471283
fun
hopelessness

>tfw got two free building upgrade events within a month of each other

Feels nice to be reimbursed like that after wiping a party on a shambler.

Also, will a bank solve my perputual money shortages?

Riperoni Jesteroni

>>382469284
Is this game worth getting? I would've bought it on launch if I had the money, but now I keep hearing a lot of people rip on it for rng. Recent steam reviews are a bit bad too.

>>382472258
It's ok. I still prefer something like XCOM though.
Get it if it's on sale for like $5

>>382472258
I thought recent steam reviews were bad because of butthurt poorfags that couldn't/wouldn't buy the new DLC as the update that added it also tweaked the vanilla game to be balanced for owners of the DLC.

>mfw I just wiped a full level 6 team

Any word on when the dlc is coming to ps4/vita?

>>382472258
I found it really interesting for the first 10 hours. But after 20 hours it just turned into a chore.. I barely even feel like playing it. More like the game plays me as its mainly just RNG.

>>382472258
There is RNG but it can be severely mitagated with a proper playstyle, at lot like XCOM.

At the end of the day your soldier in full coverage and smoke may still be crit and die instantly, but the chances of that happening are in extremely low.

All I want is invites for the crimson court but it takes FOREVER for the infestation to rise enough.

>>382471198
Vestal aka heal slut to EVERY PARTY. Fuck stress, nobody can die if you manage to heal them before the bleed ticks again.

Combine highwayman advance (riposte) with antiquarians protect me for half the team invincible + free damage.

4th spot for damage dealer specialized for era you go in. Leper, doggo master, helion, crusader, doctor.

Other characters are cool too, but really subpar. You want your heroes to stay alive, hit any enemy rank, able to work even when shuffled and BRING LOOT PAYED IN BLOOD.

Healslut, bandit and jew bitch works so good.

Also the mark party with characters who deal extra damage to marked things is good, but clunky in most encounters. Why wasting turn marking when you can heal / kill it?

>>382472258
If you like risk management, you will love it.

>>382472876
How to be overconfident?

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IF YOU'RE NEW AND BOUGHT THE DLC
BUILD THE FUCKING SANGUINE VINTNERS ASAP
GAME IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT IT

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>>382472258
It's really fun if you like turn-based combat. also, if you don't like certain aspects of the game chances are you can turn them off in the gameplay settings. Just don't get attached to your party members.

>>382472876
i wiped to a fanatic with 1 hp left

>>382473778
flagellants and occultists can heal slut fine, antiquarian are worthless for anything but gold runs

>>382474354
0

Bleed

>>382473930
>not building the jester finale district

>>382473930
Only if you get half your roster cursed like a fucking retard. Otherwise it's easily managable since almost every fight and curio in the courtyard gives multiple blood vials so you can carry home like 4 dozen of them and it takes like 4-5 weeks on average for a cursed character to be forced to drink a single vial. You'll have plenty to last you until you can get invitations.

>>382474354
>heal slut fine
I had champion runs where heal slut managed to keep like 3 characters alive on constant death doors crit hits in the same turn.

Also
>not having every run as gold + thouse upgrade thingies
With the newest update you have even more gold than before dlc. She is like jew. Carry more, find more and stack more items into same slot. The only time you dont bring her is when killing boss.

With her you can actually afford to lock positive quirks and clean the bad ones. Until you upgrade vital parts of hamlet to max, you want her in any medium run for maximum effect.

Still as the game plays, you never have optimal party composition. You simply take whoever is in the roster without schyzo and depression.

>>382474645
Jester got nerfed though.

>>382473318
In XCOM theres several abilities that give you a guarantee hit but in Darkest Dungeon everythings random expect heals. And having soldier in full cover 99% of the time saves him from being critted but again in Darkest Dungeon theres no covers or crit resistances/immunities. Also crit in that game is 2x instead of 1.5x Also theres this heal that is 0-15 healing done? Just an example how ridiculous the dicerolls can be.

Darkest Dungeon is far more RNG based than XCOM unfortunately.

>>382474645
>>not building the jester finale district

Finale got nerfed.

Less base damage and can only be used once a fight

>>382475502
>>382475639
gitgud, use it anyway

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>>382475639
the nerf was reverted

>>382475712
I want my enemies to die, not laught. Stress cant kill you, lack of health can. He is like edgy /r9k/ poster who is poor so instead of buying katana he got sickle :-D

Leper with rabies is where the fun is at.

>>382475712
>>382475785

except for the 1 per battle thing

just got my lovely bounty hunter killed by the wizened hag, had to retreat
it's my first character kill and I really liked it
help me stop the tears

For the guys that keep memeing the occultist into being a healer. He never was and never will be a competent safe healer...he will fuck you up the moment you need him the most. Getting the 0-1 heal plus bleed is not worth it just for you to go on the internet and start bragging about that one time you got that awesome crit.

>mfw play on gog
>mfw no jester nerf patch yet
feels ambivalent

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updated the game, nerf patch is still there.

and Solo now has 2 uses a fight

>>382473318
>There is RNG but it can be severely mitigated with a proper playstyle, at lot like XCOM.
You're talking shit here. In XCOM there is always something you can do to improve your chances. The game is also set up around the ability to set up contingencies, compare the turn structure in XCOM to Darkest. In Darkest Dungeon you're much more subject to the whims of RNG. The game is more about the premission than the mission itself, really. There are things you can do but ultimately if the RNG decides to dick you there's nothing you can do.

It doesn't mean it's a bad game, they're trying to do very different things. You're not the underdog in Darkest Dungeon, you're a dude getting dicked on so you're forced to do horrible things. It's meant to be a harrowing, stressful and hopeless experience rather than the harrowing, stressful but hopeful experience of XCOM.

>>382476454
why would they even change this? I thought solo/finale was just a fun thing and not actually effective

>>382472258
Game is fairly manageable until champion dungeons in which you have to use every skill to eek by after reeling through enemy crits so you can just regain your HP and lower your stress.

>>382476608
Finale can be set-up for absurd damage and herbs can be used to undo the debuff.

I don't have it on hand but some guy crit the final boss for 120ish damage

>>382476262
>When you damage debuff enemies so you don't even need to heal

>>382476262

Bleed rarely procs, bitch nigger.

>>382476608
Finale was stupidly powerful, though solo can be okay if you were planning on having him in the front again as soon as possible.

>>382476262
ideally by choosing more offensive heroes over the vestal you're not getting into trouble in the first place, bring another small heal in case of RNG

>>382476584
keep in mind XCOM's budget is orders of magnitude higher than DD, being a simpler game the RNG is understandable

>>382475471
>more gold
>carry more
>find more
>stack more items into same slot
how exactly do you do all these things?
I'm new at the game and can't see anything besides creating trinkets and supply items while camping

>>382475570
It's true that XCOM has better offensive options to get around RNG (grenades/shotguns). At least with this game though you have decent defensive options if the RNG goes bad.
Death's door prevents you from getting 1shot (unless two fast enemies both randomly focus the same target). Good heals and guarding can keep someone up for a long time through multiple death doors. And if things go really bad you can try and retreat. Not saying it's on par with XCOM but I think it's manageable.

>>382476774
>undo the debuff
did they fuck with all the self-debuff moves? figure hellion can rape everything by chugging herbs way more than a jester

>>382477215
>Death's door prevents you from getting 1shot (unless two fast enemies both randomly focus the same target)
Guess you've never experienced the crit into applying bleed/blight deaths.

>>382477164
Budget has not really much to do with it anon. You don't funnel money into some kind of game design machine that suddenly makes player action more important. It was a deliberate design choice on their part. Not a bad choice either, just trying to do something notably and illustratively different from XCOM.

I'm new to the game and am wondering what are some good team comps? Doesn't have to be "meta," just fun and viable.

>>382478337
Crusader, Crusader, Crusader, Crusader.

>>382478337
4 Crusaders

Holy lance all day

>>382478337
Arbaleast/Bounty Hunter/Houndmaster and someone else.

they can ether mark targets and/or do more damage to marked targets

also the new DLC class is so OP you can only have one of him in your party

>yet another class that doesn't like abom

>>382477213
>carry more
By having one jew lady in your team you can stack more loot in inventory. Like 2500 gold instead of 1500? Even the gems, shields and stuff should stack to higher numbers.
>find more
You want to have selected her as active hero before clicking on any curio, chest, doors whatever. That way you can get gold small and big antiquaries you cant get normally in game for even more cash.
>buy skeleton ~2 skeleton keys and apply them to LOCKED chests.

>pro tip
Before you open chest with loot in the last room, turn light down. It will generate even more loot. In this game walking in dark for whatever reason generates more loot (and more crits and stress).

>>382478381
Replace 1 crusader with healslut and you are good to go.

>>382478747
thanks anon
that is not listed anywhere right?

>>382478450
Didn't the Holy Railgun teamcomp get nerfed back in early access?

>>382478747
>Replace 1 crusader with healslut and you are good to go.
Battlefield Heal along with Inspiring Cry.

>>382478608
It could be a positive quirk for religious characters, Tolerant, Pragmatic, something like that.

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>>382478337
4 Waifu Robbers.
You start lunging and then you don't stop lunging.

>>382478835
Everything is in the wiki, but that way you lose nasty surprises and that is like half the fun.

Also build building for two free bottles of juice asap. You need the free juice.
>you will know what it is when you encounter it

>>382479024
Deus vult?

Holy shit this game is frustrating. Not because of the mechanics, really, but because of how it slows down to a fucking crawl when all you want to do is play out the scenarios.

Why do enemies have to announce their attacks for two seconds before they perform them, instead of having a combat log? It's such an incredibly frustrating experience being forced to watch this slow combat play out, especially when you're at a disadvantage and just watching your characters get pummeled.

Games like Dustforce don't gloat player failure, it just moves on and gives you control. This game however gloats and revels in player frustration. Pinnacle RPGs or even survival horror games don't do this. Darkest dungeon doesn't seem to have the same interest in good pacing. All it gives me is a headache, which is incredibly sad because i like the characters.

>>382478608
If only the Abom wasn't a faggot backer created character that wanted to be a special snowflake with a pointless restriction.

>>382480641
he even does a little REEEEEEEEE

>try to set up some cheesy repeating point blank shot or lunge party
>the order always gets completely fucked up and fails horribly

How clunky is it to play on console/controller?

>>382481036
I'm doing pc with xbox controller. the controls are clunky I guess, and the icons are for playstation. I put up with it though, gotta go comfy. they've got some work to do, I'm unable to open up the districts screen, and whenever I use a consumable the game ignores my inputs for 1s

>>382481036
It takes some getting used to. Literally every button is used and it can be a bit confusing but I got used to it pretty fast. My only complaint is there is controllers customization and I really would like to swap the functions of the d-pad and the left analog stick. They make you navigate menus/select skills and targets/move your characters with the stick when in dungeons and it just feels bad. D-pad would be so much better for that stuff.

>>382481036
A bit, you have to get use to it before it feels a bit more natural.

>>382481408
Meant to say there is NO controller customization which is horrendous. Also I hate that you can't even move in dungeons unless you're on the map screen and every time you interact with a curio it puts you in the inventory screen forcing you to switch back again just to move. I've accidentally deleted some shit because of this. Also there's no way to mass buy provisions to my knowledge for some unknown reason. Don't see why it couldn't have just been hold X like to reform your party position in dungeons.

It needs more work bottom line.

>>382474569
Not an argument.

>>382481392
>>382481408
>>382481436
Will avoid it for now then and hope they improve it. Or see if my potato can handle it. Thanks

>>382482363
They aren't going to improve it.

>>382480886
Get a Quick Draw Charm.

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>>382481780
>mfw accidentally using camping equipment on a curio

why should I bring the abomination guy?
he just stresses my dudes when he changes, so what are the benefits?

>>382484719
he kills bad guys

is Jester bad now? he used to be my favorite

>>382484719
He does a lot of damage
It's almost never worth it though, since the stress is annoying and a lot of units refuse to serve with him

>>382484719
That isn't even the worse debuff. If you take him you can't take the best healing class in the game.

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>>382476060
>Stress cant kill you

>>382484719
None. His damage isn't even that great to compensate for the stress piling on and the party restrictions. Also you pretty much need a pocket Jester with you if you want to use transform more than a couple of times. Now they went and nerfed his beast bile ability which was a good ability to use in regular form if you didn't want to transform. He just fucking sucks. I don't care what people say. They could at least remove the party restrictions at this point because he's really no better than the other classes.

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>>382485243
>>382484964
>>382484968
If you fags are on Pc why not just get the mod that takes away the stress on the other party memebers

>>382485243
it's like 5 stress which is nothing, the religious restriction is the problem

>>382485428
and the mod that gets rid of the religous restriction too

Any website where I can hear the lines online?
The DD wiki is garbage and has a handful of sounds

>>382485428
I bet you don't play on Stygian either.

>>382485740
because im not a tryhard

>>382485243
And to think he was so op on release, they fucked everyone across the board in the ass in an attempt to "balance" him.

>Go to fight necromancer for first time
>Get in, start in the middle of the map, two ways to go left or right
>Both ways the exact same length, literal 50/50
>Go one way, haha fuck you turns out it's not the same way gotta go back now also fight dudes
>Team suddenly gets voracious with constant feeding checks
>End up having to starve getting to the end of the second wing
>wipe on Necro after he crits twice in a row and heart attacks another

fuck this game

>>382474354
occultists are shit primary healers in champion dungeons that arent ezmode ruins

with the deaths door mechanic, reliability and consistency are far more valuable than omgepic crits that half the time go off on someone barely injured, resulting in 30 overheal. the group heal alone makes the vestal infinitely more useful, with the variety of groupwide attacks enemies have

not that you cant torture yourself with a solo occultist healer, but its definitely not the ideal choice

>>382485428
>>382485617
May as well just get a mod that finishes the game for me.

>>382485683

youtube has a compilation

QUICK /v/ DARKEST OR RADIANT?
>Radiant has been completed by 1% of players
what even

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>THE THIRST

>>382486339
vestal is a crutch, especially with OP flagellants

>>382486554
radiant, it's the same with less grinding, it's the better game mode but most people already beat the game by the time it came out

>>382486159
The hunger is the worst and most poorly implemented mechanic I have seen honestly and deliberately left in a video game because people thought it was a good idea. It's so easily solved by some kind of hidden hunger meter and cooldown.

>>382486554
radiant was released this year I think, so I'm guessing a lot of earlier players wont have come back to the game just to do it... maybe with the DLC, except why would you want to play babymode if you know the game well enough to beat it on normal


I just got the base game in the steam sale, and am playing on Radiant because I'm a big wuss

>>382486159
you could have retreated with no loss but some gold. I swear half the complaints about this game could be avoided if people actually used the fucking retreat button

if your party is trashed/stressed/starved/out of items/whatever, and there's 12 rooms left and a boss, why the fuck are you continuing

>>382485243
Just having that Jester isn't a problem. Use him for the stress healing and stacking bleeds. The Abomination can take care of himself when it comes to stress healing so it will only be three other characters. Abomination can wreck shit though.

Does the fanatic only show up once? Had a town event that let me bring high levls into a low level place, so I brought a team of crimson lvl 4s and fought him at a lvl 1 place. Still lost two good fighters though. Also, why is the crimson curse so fucking stupid? 50% of my heroes have it. I also learned that they changed the game .txt filez to a ".darkest" rxtension and block access/changes to them. I wanted to boost stack size of some stuff like food and gold.

>>382486801
>it can't be that bad
>look it up on the wiki
holy fuck, what is wrong with them

>>382470167
At least he gets to live

>>382479438
I feel the same. Creators are clearly up their own ass with its style. I d like Mignola-esque artwork and voice acting and overall look, but I would prefer if there were customization options like skipping combat animation, skipping narrator talking same shit over and over and over.

I also feel like they just wanted to get that Dark Souls in your face "you die here, lmao" hype train.

>>382486801

It's bullshit, I was literally about to camp in the next room when it made the check that took the rest of my food and I just ate maybe 3-4 rooms back

>>382487015

Cause I needed the money and other than high stress on two of my guys, I had relatively good health. Then the crits came. Plus, as I said, the first time going to fight necromancer, I didn't know what he could do cause I wasn't reading an FAQ.

>>382486453
>a mod that gets rid of a restriction is the same as making the whole game easy

Man you arre a fgt

>>382487223
I don't even get hunger. It was poorly implemented. Nothing is more annoying than feeding some people and then getting a hunger check within that hallway. Then getting another hunger check in the next hallway. How does that make sense when you can often go two or more hallways without getting a hunger check?

>Choose the quest to fight that Flesh abomination thing in the Warrens
>Go into it completely blind
>Kinda nervous about how hard it might be
>It was actually easy as fuck because I had brought the hound master and plague doctor with me with DoT out the fucking ass

Neat. I swear I'm just more lucky on these bossfights than anything else.

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O boy i can't waith to read about all the people here bithing that the game is hard because they brought a low acc leper to fight dodge witches.

>tentacle monster pulls my healslut to the front row
>she clubs him with her mace
This game has best healsluts.

>>382487574
just reading it with the weird "invisible hunger check tiles"... like okay, just make sure they generate one per dungeon or something, in a random spot if they want to code it that way...

but clearly the normal check should just be like the light-level, every X increase hunger, and if it gets too much you start taking stress/health hits or something... kinda doubling up though, so it would probably just work if they removed it entirely and just rolled the idea into camping.

>>382487550
>A mod that allows you to bring a class with higher damage than other classes without any of the downsides that would usually be in place isn't cheating
It would be another thing if it were a rebalance but just out and out removing them? Like completing a game with the cheatcodes on.

>>382487602
Thankfully he isn't too bad on Apprentice. He can deal insane damage on Champion and target two people with a single attack. Recently on my last apprentice run with him I went Hound Master, Abomination, Occultist, and Plague Doctor.

>>382488089
supposedly devs have their eye on the abom problem and were going to make it quirk based instead of class based

>just started playing it
>like the class ideas
>nothing especially generic
do you think an Mariner class would work?

not like a meme-pirate type thing, but like a normal Sailor with a harpoon or some shit that you might find in Call of Cthulhu, etc

>>382488792
yeah

their next game also needs to be a cthulu-esque mystery set in industrial revolution 19th century

you lead a ragtag team of investigators, vigilantes, criminals, etc, on a mission to uncover some cult plot amongst the grimy industiral backdrop of 19th century not-england

not terribly creative, but it fits perfectly with darkest dungeon's design.

Steam says I got 220+ hours, but I'm sure it's closer to 300. Honestly, this is one of those games where it's better to go in with a bit of knowledge of it already.

Hunger ain't that big of a problem, just bring 12 pieces on small, then every bit of food for medium and large, just in case. You also don't need all 8 pieces to camp, it just gives you health and stress heal. Similar thing for torches, bring 8 for small dungeon, 16 for Medium, and 20 for Large. Then buy one of each provision. Only time you should ever actually stock up on provisions is if you're going to fight the boss, which getting loot should be the ignored. If your heroes are in a bad spot, retreat. It's best to lose money, than lose valuable heroes.

Lastly, if Abomination was rid of that restriction, do you have any idea how broken some parties would be? Hell, the strongest party to date is still Occ, Jester, Abom, Abom. The game ain't perfect, and some heroes are near worthless like the Highwayman, but there are obvious ways to avoid these problems some people have.

>talking shit about highwayman

>>382487657
Hi Scott

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>it's a collector in the first dungeon run

>>382486917
Radiant isn't really baby mode. It's more of a question of, "Do I want to spend 80+ hours trying to beat this or half of that?" The dungeoning is still the same and the enemies are the same as in normal mode. It's just reducing the grind and making it easier to form parties thanks to lighter level restrictions.

>>382471198
I haven't played for a really long time but I'd run vestal, graverobber, rogue and crusader. I would give the melee the abilities to move forward so you'd start the graverobber on 3rd slot, rogue on crusader on second and rogue on first and just juggle around the line up.

decently good team that could deal with any bullshit party shuffling abilities can hit like a truck if you need to focus fire

I'm a big baby who is fine with most of the difficulty but I have my panties in a bunch about a few mechanics
Radiant mode seems like maybe too many changes, but I do want to mod/edit out the level restrictions for dungeons just because, as I mentioned before, I'm a big baby and insist on playing things my own way at my own pace
Also possibly relaxing stack carrying sizes
But I haven't actually played Radiant mode, so maybe I'm better off taking the bigger change?

also is there any mod that makes hunger mechanics less absolutely fucking terrible

>>382489774
Level restrictions is one of the things that make sense.

The game is not that brutal, if you fear the game you wont get any enjoyment. Play radiant if you dotn want something too grindy

>>382489774
radiant mode makes like 5 non-combat changes, it's not a big deal

>>382489548
He said its baby mode if you've already beat the game on the original difficulty. Which makes sense.

Also do I have to go into a dungeon for the stress relieving to kick in? Or can I just idle on the estate screen?

Only have three party members who aren't freaking the fuck out

>>382489548

most of the changes are anti-grind measures

however, the changed level caps for dungeons is straight up making the game easier, unless you were to follow the old rules. there's also some tweak to lighting where you get more benefit for being not in the dark.

the level cap one is big though, making it significantly easier (not just faster) to obtain gold, by farming lower level dungeons with overleveled heroes

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Would you?

>>382476092
Also you need to ramp up to it with his other skills, which IMO is a really cool and unique mechanic. You can do absolutely monstrous damage with it if you stack it up for 3 or 4 turns.

>>382489994
what exactly are the differences between radiant and darkest?

>>382489973
>Level restrictions is one of the things that make sense.
I know. I fully recognize it is a good and sensible mechanic, and that my desire to put whoever I want wherever I want is spergy as hell.
That said I still want to do it.

>>382490085
No.

>>382490309
Pussy.

Am i a pussy because i modded out the level restrictions? i found they were just making the game tedious, not challenging.

>>382490368
do whatever makes the game fun for you imo

>>382490520
>do whatever makes the game fun for you imo
yeah this
glad to see this thread's not full of the same smug shit most hard game generals/threads are

>base game rebalanced to accommodate for expansion features.
>base game is now retardedly difficult

>>382490364
Sorry, I don't trust women.

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>>382486339
>not running full dps
>jester, highwayman, leper, crusader/berserker
>not singing and dancing your way through eldritch horrors while surging with over confidence

>>382490085
I really like the enemy designs they went for in the DLC, with how all the insectoid parts make them look like they're wearing noble clothing and whatnot. The Chevaliers especially look great with how the tiny legs down their front make it look like a fancy jacket.

>>382490368
This is a good idea. I stopped playing the game because the level restrictions felt like artificial padding.

It doesn't even make sense thematically. If the adventurers are going insane and suffering from entering the dungeons, why wouldn't they jump at a chance for an easy loot run?

>>382475378
>like a retard
>when it's all random other than sharing town activities

>dont use stuns
>dont use appropriate % scouting chance traits for every run
>spread the damage between every mob
>complain about rng

everytime

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>Also do I have to go into a dungeon for the stress relieving to kick in? Or can I just idle on the estate screen?
I wanna know this too cus Im just trying to think how imma get through this

>>382490368
The level restrictions are shit-tier implementation that honestly kind of break the game for no good reason. There are so many ways they could make bringing high level characters actually balanced in lower level dungeons from making them take a cut of the earnings, gaining no XP and/or tweaking how difficult darkness made the game, meaning that high level characters are the only real ones that can tackle pitch black dungeons.

Do what you want, you paid for it. The restrictions are dumb. But to answer your question: Yes you are. And that's OK.

>>382490829
>>382490520
>>382490623
Thanks anons, i was feeling kind of guilty over it after browsing the /vg/

>>382486554
whats radiant?

>>382490113
Radiant has an additional rank of experienced heroes you can get in the stagecoach so you can potentially get lvl 4s. I think less experience required to level. Dungeon level restrictions are lowered. Up to lvl 4 can go to apprentice and 5/6 can go to veteran still. Also you can reuse characters for DD missions which is the really big time saver.

>>382490729
>leper
>crusader

leave the slowfags behind, go full fast dps

>>382489973
>radiant mode makes like 5 non-combat changes, it's not a big deal
if you look in the settings, you can turn individual things back on I think... not sure if it's everything that Radiant disables or not

>>382490085
Yeah, I'd hit it. With a crit Bleed Out.

>>382490941
nothing happens when you're idle, it's turn based

>>382490829
The bulwarks of the mind have fallen.

>>382490941
Have to go through a dungeon, and idle is when they aren't doing anything at all. They can't be in the sanitarium. Try to avoid the gambling hall, honestly. There's a chance they will lose a trinket, and they WILL LOSE AN ANCESTOR'S TRINKET WITH NO FUCKING WAY TO GET IT BACK. GODDAMN BOUNTY HUNTER PIECE OF SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>382490941
apprentice mediums are so easy you can leave them with less stress than you came in with if you're not a total retard

>want to buy this game
>still have E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy to play and complete
>still haven't played Deus Ex, Dishonored 1, or Fallout New Vegas
>see this thread
You guys got anything to say about greed that the announcer would say? I kinda need it at this point to prevent me from buying this.

>>382490941
if you take a team through a dungeon, anyone back in town gets some basic stress redux even without going into the church/pub... if thats what you mean

>>382491231
FINDING THE STUFF IS ONLY THE FIRST TEST
NOW IT MUST BE CARRIED HOME

>>382491218
>he doesn't use the unequip trinkets button every week

>>382488792
I think the important part is establishing what role the class plays first. What would he be able to do that isn't already done by another class?

>>382490368
The level restrictions are one of the two biggest padding elements of the game. It often forces you to use shit teams because you have nothing else available because everyone out leveled a range or to flat out delete characters to make room for the possibility of future runs. The best part is end-game when you start realizing you want a certain class but don't have it and then have to somehow find a way to level that class up to max without having any other characters at that level. Great fun.

>>382491363
They'll loose something from your trinket inventory then.

>>382491032
jester makes them fast tho

Is the DLC worth the full price? Is there any point to get it as a beginner?

>>382490695
Haven't played the dlc yet but from I've watched it seems very, very intrusive to the main game and just drags your estate down over time unless you find some way to blitz through the courtyard. Throw in the Fanatic and it starts to get annoying. As if that fucking nigger Shrieker wasn't enough. Nothing like coming back from a bad run to see your trinkets stolen by champion level fag bird.

>>382491007
nvm, ithought you guys were talking about a new game called radiant rather than the difficulty setting.

>>382491751
yes
no

are all heroes besides the first 2 random?

>>382490921
I like the people that waste an entire turn stunning the enemy team and doing no damage and thinking they accomplished something.

>>382491897
I think you're guaranteed to get a Flagellant on like the 5th or 6th week from a town event.

>>382489501
I had this recently. Thankfully I was prepared for his bullshit.

>>382491897
you also get a fixed vestal and plague doctor on week 1.

>>382491440
I think that's where it falls apart. I have no idea

various pull effects maybe, a net for speed debuffs

I think the later classes have gotten new mechnics, like the antiquarian's gold/stack bonus, or the ambomination's shapeshift/skills

>>382492209
and everyone else is random ye?
havent bought this yet

>>382491541
what kind of manor lord would let their hired help use their personal property for fucking gambling in their own gambling den? Shit is retarded.

i really like this game, but theres a lot of stuff that isnt internally consistent and breaks the immersion.

my main vestal disappeared one week, probably the most annoying rng bullshit that can happen. If I was a real noble hiring people to fight unholy abominations, I think i'd keep better track of my people. How the fuck does a full grown woman just vanish and nobody has any clue where she went. The town has like 5 buildings and everyone damn well knows not to wander around.

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>Flagellant with Martyr Seal

over healing is the biggest noob trap in this game

the ideal dungeon run ends with everyone at 1hp

>>382491363
That doesn't work mate, they will still lose it. That's why I was so pissed, and on top of that, they use to not do that.

Do old class mods work with the Crinsom Court?

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>>382492408
>my main vestal disappeared one week

You mean went off for a week with the question mark on her icon right? Surely this fucking game doesn't just delete your dudes on a whim, right?

>>382492319
yea, everything is random beyond the first couple of bits... it's like some sutble tutorial shit before throwing you down the stairs

>>382492651
enjoy

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This mod when?

>>382492651
It doesn't.

>>382487264
Dismas and Reynauld must heroically sacrifice themselves to find redemption, anon. It is so written.

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>>382492958
nigger I will fight you

>>382492958
That's what I fucking want

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>>382471283

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>>382493108

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>>382493108
>>382493243
Fighting is mean. Is that one an actual thing? I'd be down for that too but Lovecraft version is better.

>>382493179
You and me both.

So, I don't own Crimson Court, but I'm reading a lot of features and they sound really obnoxious.
Infestation level: does it ever go down?
Invitations: Can you really only get them when infestation's at max? And you need them to do ANY run? Are all runs guaranteed to end in a boss or is it like any normal dungeon run?
I hate ticking timebombs and shit like the Crimson Curse just sounds really obnoxious.

>>382491231
"The cost of preparedness - measured now in gold, later in blood."

>>382492651
No, she leaves for a week. Out of 300 hundred hours, longest I ever had was 3 weeks, a Grave Robber didn't want to come back. On top of that, it only activates if you put them inside a Stress relief activity and it continues to lower their stress. It's free relief, it ain't that bad.

>>382493281
I don't think so, it's just fancy drawings of cool space version

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>>382493235
HOW QUICKLY

>>382493371
I put my vestal with nymphomania in the brothel and she wouldnt come out

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>>382493459
You disappoint me.

>>382493467

>>382493290
Infestation goes down once you kill a boss in the dlc area and crimson curse is cured for your roster but then the infestation level will start to rise again with the presence of the next new boss. And yes you need an invitation just for ONE attempt at the dungeon. They are gotten from gatekeeper enemies at high infestation. It's a guaranteed drop but you have to kill them fast because they run away actually.

As for the courtyard it's always a boss run but the length is Epic. Meaning the place is gigantic and you'll have to leave but you'll get no penalty for doing so and can pick back up right where you left once you go back in. Provided you have another invitation that is.

>>382493564
Stop turning the tide.

>>382493691
the DLC sounds like a shitshow... are they likely to fix all that, or are they sticking with it?

>>382493290
It does increase, but only lowers when you defeat one of the bosses. You get them at max, but now they patched it to where you can get one for free after completing the first dungeon. Also, the invitations drop like fucking crazy. I'm not even joking, which is fine. Because you need one to go on one, and you will have to leave them because they are massive. There are four dungeons, but it will take more than 4 expeditions to complete them. So, in a sense, they do end in a boss. It's not a timebomb, and it's nowhere near as annoying as it sounds.

>>382493564
FASTER

>>382490012

You can go into a dungeon then immediately retreat to advance the week in your hamlet. The guys you send in and retreat with will get stressed, but its better than 3 manning a short run and getting them killed.

Jesus Christ

Is there a way to NOT make this game a grinding festival?

>>382491307
The 'stuff' in this line never really sat right with me. Too casual.

>>382493557
that's hot anon

>>382493691
>As for the courtyard it's always a boss run but the length is Epic
oh no
>Meaning the place is gigantic and you'll have to leave but you'll get no penalty for doing so and can pick back up right where you left once you go back in
oh phew
>Provided you have another invitation that is
oh no

>>382494048
Play Radiant mode.

>>382494048
Mods. Tons of em.

>>382493691
>>382493905
Once you beat it the last boss there does it finally go down to 0 infestation or do you still need to keep jumping back in there from time to time?

>>382494158
>>382494163
Did they remove achievements?

>>382494048
Play on Radiant, download a mod that increases the item limit, or change them to your liking which is very simple.

>>382494176
The enemies will still show up but once you kill the last boss you gain the true cure to the crimson curse and it can now be removed with the Sanitarium.

>>382494223
Nope you can mod and still get achievements

>>382494223
Nope.

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>>382494305
Thx I will try :3

>>382494223
nah.

>>382494176
Yes, infestation goes down to none, and you can enter whenever you please. Also the Crimson Curse is curable at the sanitarium.

>>382492651

>put vestel into the bar for stress relief
>disappears for 3 weeks
>comes back with a two new quirks
>can no longer relieve stress by drinking, sees religious delusions and hallucinations

must have been one hell of a bender, lady.

>>382494438
>Yes, infestation goes down to none
Permanently?
>enter whenever
Well hell maybe it's not so bad after all

>>382487412
Theres a mod for removing all animations on nexus. Id link you to it if I wasnt on my gay phone.

>>382494557
Yes. But you'll still come across them every now and then.

>>382471283
Just try to have fun with it and don't take it seriously. All of the magic and joy is sapped away if you try to minmax/master the "mechanics". It doesn't have the same random factor as say, XCOM. Barring bad rolls all of your dungeons are going to go similarly assuming you bring the same party.

>>382471886
>solve my perputual money shortages

What? How? Dungeons cost 2500-4000 to enter with provisions and their quest payout alone pay you back immediately. The gold you find in the dungeons should be more then enough to pay for quirk removal AND stress reduction for everyone who went into said dungeon. Stop making shit parties.

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>does a hag run on Veteran
>first fight is a collector
>map looks like this

COME THE FUCK ON. IS THIS PUNISHMENT FOR A TOWN EVENT?

>>382473930
>GAME IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT IT
Just fucking fire your crimson curse heroes you stupid idiot. By the time I even went to the courtyard I had 25 blood and didn't need the sanguine vintner.

>>382490898
Yes, it is totally random whether or not you get hit in combat. There is zero way for us to manipulate that through stats or abilities.

>>382494986
? Just kill the collector. The hag is a joke, though I'm unsure why you brought the bounty hunter and not a hellion. Suppose you just didn't have one is all. If you built a team for fighting hag you should have 0 difficulty absolutely fucking destroying collector.

>>382469284
So what skills are best for Hellions? I followed the game for a bit during early access but only just bought it, it looks like they got shit on with so many debuffs after spells get used


I haven't played for more than a few hours but after reading through skill lists, it looks like Marking is super strong since spells that combo off it are good even on their own (like collect bounty) but with a mark are absurd for little investment. Like the axe swing does as much damage as everyone else's vanilla auto attack but with a mark does 90% bonus.

My current set up feels mediocre and I'm stuck on the prophet who hides behind pews because I lack ranged damage, I use a hellion, the starter crusader, a grave robber and a vestal or plague doctor

>>382495381
I wrecked the collector and I was going to use the Bounty Hunter for marking but be kept on being thrown into the pot

and I didn't have a Helion at the right rank (I think my only one is at 2)

they really need to increase the barracks size to count for the new classes. I don't think you can even have 2 of each class at this rate.

>>382495650
You don't have as much wiggle room with how many classes there are but for the most part you don't need to have extras of every class because you only bring them to maybe one or two areas tops.

>>382481036
I play on ps4, you get used to it quickly

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Reminder.

>>382495529
For the Hellion, Breakthrough is really the only "bad" ability. Yawp has a high chance to stun the first stun, which is incredibly useful. You always want to prevent enemies from taking a turn, that's the key to winning. Bleed Out, I think is the one hits very front row, is kind of pointless if you have the other bleeding ability. I believe it's called If It Bleeds. Adrenaline Rush is useful in the warrens, but pointless if you have a dedicated healer. She's one of the most versatile heroes you can have, I love her.
If you're having trouble with the Prophet, I'd bring Hellion with Iron Swan, A Bounty Hunter with Caltrops and Marking, A Vestal with Group heal, and lastly, an Arbalast with Battlefield Bandage, Marks and Sniper Shot. Completely ignore the pews, they give you 1.5k in gold, not even worth the chance. BUT, if you can stun the Prophet, might be worth destroying the front pew so your Hellion can use If It Bleeds and hit the third rank for bleed, since the Prophet has NO resistance to bleed. Prophet is made easy with a Vestal who has group heal. Rubble of Ruin will ALWAYS be used at the very end of the round. Meaning, if you use group heal, even if it heals for one point of health, all of you are off death's door. Also, bring some Antivenom for when he uses fulminate.

>>382484719
Take him for bosses and nuke as a monster. Transform on the final fight. As a human he's got a good stun.

>>382485243
They nerfed beast bile? Wtf somebody give a rundown please

>>382494986

>ancestor's scroll on Bounty Hunter

Nigga u wot

>>382497223
>dem sweet bounty hunter heals

>>382497223
That's for healing/stress healing received.

The wording is stupidly vague.

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING

>>382497223
what, when the fuck did that happen?

I swore I had damage up crap on him

>>382497354
I thought it enhanced the healing skills of the user

>>382497454
were you doing a dark run?

>>382497454
Oh you did something alright, you fucked up.

>>382497454

You're fine anon. You're nearly at the end of the run and have hardly any stress.

You lack some damage dealing tho

>>382492509
This. Health remaining at the end of the dungeon is pointless you fools

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>>382497454
>summon one of these bastards
>get my ass handed to me and flee
>get ambushed by another in the next corridor

>>382497454
I just summoned and killed this fucker for the first time.
One of my guys almost died of a heart attack but we pulled through.

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>>382490085
yes

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>Play for the first time the Crimson Court DLC
>Try to go kill the baron
>First expedition, literally explore everything before the first door
>Can't find the fucking key
>Go down the bottom path for last
>Key finally
>I've explored around 50 rooms
>Everyone stressed and wounded, better go back to the hamlet
>Second expedition
>Unlock door
>FUCKING CROCODILE
>Kill it but everyone is stressed and wounded as fuck
>Go back again

HOW MANY FUCKING MORE EXPEDITIONS IS THIS SHIT GONNA TAKE

>>382494305
My favorite feature!!!!

>recruited a jew with plutomania
heh

>>382471283
memorizing/wiki the dungeon before you run. Preparation is the key and adventurers are actually dispensable.

>Most people complain about the rng
>not the amount of grind just to upgrade your adventurers

>>382497993
HAHA! Suffer boy, you ain't even near the end!

>>382498292
mods

>>382498363

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>382497993
you fuck with the croc you get the cock

>>382497454
Shambler has a small chance to spawn when at low light. Keep your torches up.

>>382469284
>3 Fights away to finish my first ever Long Champion quest for an ancestral gun trinket
>Awful party, but I am almost there
>Suddenly Collector appears
>Summons 2 highwayman + man at arms
>Stress is pilling up on my plague doctor (150+) but I am managing the fight
>Decide to go for the kill before the fucker heals again
>Kill MAA first because of guard
>Miss almost everything, one more turn and I can do it
>Summoned Highwayman #1 crits Vestal for 20+ and applies bleed
>Summoned Highwayman #2 crits Vestal for 20+ and applies bleed
>Vestal's turn, dead.
>Can't finish collector
>Summoned Highwayman #1 crits PD for 20+ and applies bleed
>PD's turn, dead.
>Run, cant finish the quest, lose 4 good trinkets

And that was how I learned to always bring a reliable way to kill the back row, especially those flag holding fucking skellies. Also fuck you crusader, hit your fucking attacks.

>>382496251
Yea truly us hardcore gamers amirite. I've just today tried to do the fucking boss who drops boulders and if they all hit and do 30 dmg im just forced to throw 1h of my life away and do the dungeon again and hope for better dices

I've been playing this and I think I've got a fairly good understanding of the game. I can do veteran quests/bosses easily. However I struggle even with regular mobs in champion. They deal way too much damage and stress. I guess I should rely on spamming stuns and guards? What else?

>>382498943
You'll get the trinkets back, eventually.

>>382496251
>And when they die they stay dead
Except not really

>>382499126
Oh, I didn't know that, thank you anon

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>this guy appear
>almost kill everyone on my party
>survived with 4 adventurers on the death door
Man this game is rad.

>>382499283
you just need to fight a boss

>>382493243
>15.604 Illuminati pyramids

>>382499283
The crow will steal your unused trinkets, and killing it will give back the ones you lost in battle.

Why does it seem like this game is getting daily patches? There's an updating downloading every morning.

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>>382499289
>see his loadscreen
>abandon quest

>>382498989
That's all part of the game. The RNG is supposed to be bullshit and you're supposed to lose people sometimes and adapt.
If you are crying about it so much it's because you don't get it.

>>382499365
>>382499326
Wait, what if I already killed him? I got the event to kill him and did it (barely)

This was before i lost my shit to the collector

>>382499405
"balance" because we gotta nerf fun strategies in a single player game :^)

>>382473930
>10 cused heroes
>67 blood in stockpile
maybe if you dodn't give it away like candy

>>382498989
>dying to the prophet
literally git gud

>>382499469
>its ok if the game plays you and you not the game
I see you dont actually like playing video games. Its /v/ after all. I'm on week 30, first time playing, and lost only one guy. I'm not complaining about "lol game is so hard" I'm complaining about "oh well lets throw 1h again and hope for better rng lool heeh video games!!!"

>>382495529
You may want a Man at Arms for the Prophet. He will guard the rubble rain for your guys. Occultist is very good on that fight, not for the heal but for his damage debuff which can effectively neuter the rubble damage. After that you want some guys that can either hit rank 3/4. The first pew has low HP so you can rend through it like nothing and have a Bounty Hunter, Abomination, and another Man at Arms that can hit that rank. Hellion and Arbalest can hit the back row frequently.

>>382499552
He comes back every fifteen weeks or so.

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>do necromancer run for the first time
>cake walk so far
>get to necromancer
>this motherfucker loses his shit and starts stressing everyone out, hitting my gunman
>refuses to attack and when he does he just misses
>fucking plaguebearer carries the boss fight while everyone is at 2-3hp
and this faggot dies to a skeleton AFTER necromancer dies

can i get tips, is pic related just the worst class? I had to dismiss another one of these guys prior to the quest.

>>382499735
that was changed.

Now it's only 1 time after week 40

>>382497454
>tfw I just took one of those down with my leper, antiquarian, vestal, and arbalest

>>382499716
>all that """"ironic shitposting""""
Ok, friend. If it bothers you that much then the game is probably just not for you.

>>382496251
Game is about grind to your first 200k with 2-3 antiquirans. Everything else is up to chance.

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why would anyone ever open a fucking IRON MAIDEN
that just screams kill me

What is a good way to make gold? I never seem to be making enough, I more or less tend to break even.

I've tried sending in a group of antiquarians to make trinkets during campfires and then abandon the quest, but the stress provided from doing it makes them like a one time use.

>>382500168

Open it with medicinal herbs, otherwise skip it

>>382500168
There might be treasure in there!

>382500007
Ok.

>>382500213
Antiquarians in tier 1 ruins, bring someone who can scout ruins, never finish quest if you have a hero who might level into tier 2. Loads emone will be yours.

>>382499759
>doesn't wear trinket
This guy have the best buff and pretty much the best tank. The only shortcoming is his range.

>>382500213
Just grab a bunch of lvl 0-1 antiquarians and go into the easiest missions and complete them.
You get a ton of money and there's very little risk.

>>382500168
say out load "please dont open that"
"hey whats in here"
*disease'd*
everytime

>Vampire Enemies
>They're mosquitos and not bats
>mfw i have no face

>>382500213
Snuff that torch.

>>382499759
I use mine to riposte stuff while guarding other people. Antiquarian is a good combo.

I want the shield trinket to try him on 4th pos.

>>382500480
I actually liked the Mansquito designs. The idea that bats are even effective bloodsuckers has always been silly. The only actual vampire bat doesn't suck, he scrapes and licks

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>>382500480
>mosquitos
>they go first everytime
>3 of them
>CURSED
>CURSED
>CURSED

>>382499945
No this game isnt for anyone. How is this even a game? Lets just go to the random.org and pretend that we're in a fight. Like how do you get into this state where your brain tells you "this is a good game". I REALLY REALLY liked the first 10 or so hours but turns out game has so little depth that it cannot entertain anyone but some turboretards who take boring grind over refined gameplay or deep mechanics.

>>382491218
>not just constantly spending money on kleptomania and gambling addictions and hoarding trinkets that you don't even use

like do you even play bra

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>>382500458
>>382500217
Oh man let me take a closer look! Ya never know!

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Is this a good idea?

Should I bring a vestal instead of the PD?

>382500781
Try harder.

>>382500458
Use herbs

>>382499759
Man at Arms is good. Tanky, great for certain boss fights in which you need to guard people, can shift enemies and stun them, and he can buff.

>>382501013
Yea I'm try again tomorrow. Maybe this time I will crit the dice through the table and somehow delude myself to feel good about all that time wasted.

>>382469284
Only question I have about this game so far honestly is how the fuck do you manage crimson curse? Its the only thing truly stressing me out so far even the occasional death of heart attack doesnt bother me that much

>>382500458

When a curious character interacts with a curio by themselves, you can still use an item. Use whichever item is good for that curio while the character is saying stuff.

>>382490017
That's still mostly reducing the grind for gold though. Level 5 and 6 dungeons are just as hard and can be even worse if you've gotten soft on doing a bunch of low level dungeons with overpowered characters. I got my ass kicked in going into a long champion dungeon the first time because I wasn't expecting how high the accuracy of the enemies was.

>382501239<
(You) really are starved, aren't (You)?

>week 21
>first antiquarian shows up

who do i put in a party with them for some grinding? i was thinking hellion, since i have a trinket that increases her accuracy and crit when below 25 light. isis magician or plague doctor for a 3 spot, maybe something like a bounty hunter or crusader for spot 2?

>>382500213
antiquarians run on medium length non-boss. Spend your first blueprint on the bank. Make sure to save 200-300k so you can run without worrying about money anymore.

>>382501281
Blood.

Or just fire em.

Or kill the Countess.

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>>382471514
This made me laugh

>>382501408
wahtever require for the dungeon. I always take account which dungeon i run instread of what combo the best.

>>382501352
Starved for answers. Someone help me solve what makes people so happy about success was it video games or life whenever it is 10% you and 90% luck. Its almost like some people are born too stupid to understand the things that happen around them.

My friend just gifted me Crimson Court.

What should I expect?

>>382500168
>>382500979
>I MUST SEE IT

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BOOOOOOOOM!

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:^)

>>382501281

1. Never put people with the curse and without it in the same building.

2. Kill bloodsuckers fast as possible.

3. Every time you kill a boss in the courtyard the curse is lifted from your entire roster.

Only other tip is to get the district that gives you 2 blood every week. Once you get it the curse becomes more of a buff than something that really needs managing.

>>382501636

the curse won't show up until you go there. the court is labeled a low level dungeon, but its really meant for well geared level 2's or 3's. a lot of the negative reviews on steam are from people that go in there with 0's or 1's with no trinkets and get their asses beat like a jamboy. go in there with a decent group that is leveled and you'll be fine.

>>382501787
>>382501281

Oh and by bloodsuckers I meant those little mosquito fuckers. The fat heads tend to use that blight move more often than not so aren't as likely to curse you. They're also pretty much stun immune.

>>382501636
Crocodiles and mosquitos

>>382501787
or you could farm the blood with dispensable level 0 on crimson court(before you need invitation to run it). I think i got like 40-50 blood and do not have to worry about any blood anymore

>>382501787
>Can't get a debilitating debuff outside of the crimson court
>it doesn't really give you anything you can't get elsewhere other than what you need to suppress the debuff
If it weren't DLC and were instead in the base game would there be any point in going?

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>>382501725
>Misfire

>>382502402

It's the best way to get the set trinkets. There's also a ton of loot in the place provided you bring enough supplies.

Once you get the ability to cure the curse it turns into more of a boon with massive on demand damage buff from drinking blood.

>>382496397
Thanks for the advice. I went and learned iron swan on my hellion and got a houndmaster, I cured Dismas klepto for free during an event so now I can actually use him.

Beat the prophet by only using single target abilities that could hit the fourth rank, much easier that way.

Current team is hellion first rank, houndmaster second rank, highwayman third rank and grave robber fourth rank.

Do I need to do anything special before preparing to fight the hag?

>>382501002
You realize you have no attackers with reach right? Why would you put crusader and leper in the same party? They're practically the same.

>>382498163
>memorizing/wiki the dungeon before you run
serious question:
how do most people handle points of interest or whatever they're called (curios?) in the dungeon? do you just use whatever item seems most logical? do you look up the ideal answer online? do you trial and error your way through?

>>382503675
i use wiki. I think it's the only way to play the game if you want to progress without losing your sanity.

>>382503675
At first I clicked all of them without using any item. Then I wasted a few thousand gold trying items that didn't work on them

So now I've figured out that
Sacks of loot and backpacks are safe (to my knowledge)
Display cabinets and heirloom chests require a skeleton key
Confession booths and holy idols require holy water
And I don't fuck with anything else

>>382503675
At the start, I would guess once, and then use whatever seemed to be the opposite of the effect.

Did it cause a bleed? Probably Bandages
Blight? If it's kind of disease looking, herbs, poison look is anti-venom.
Religiousy? Holy Water

But i'm old and jaded now, so nowadays I just check the wiki.

>>382498163
>adventurers are actually dispensable
I hate this fucking meme. They're not dispensable the moment they hit levels where they refuse to do lower level dungeons or you've at all upgraded them. You've invested so much money and time into them at that point that they are entirely indispensable. This isn't like XCOM where you're going to have a harder time but you can totally bring a bunch of rookies on a hard mission.

>Get into a champion warrens dungeon for the first time since they added those new enemies
>"lol lets see what this faggot new pig can do"
>crits 3 of my heroes for +20 damage
what the fuck

>>382504068
Looks like you just got crippled

There's a webm of the party at a camp, and they all decide to eat buy one hero has a panic attack and dies of a heart attack on the spot.

I want that webm.

>>382490093
the problem is that fights seldom last so long. What made finale really good is that, coupled with jester's speed, it would instantly delete 1 enemy effectively turning the fight into a 4v3

Now you need to waste turns buffing your finale damage and by the time you get it to pre-nerf amounts the fight is basically over anyways. I agree it is a cool mechanic, but it kinda ruined the skill

>>382504342
The way I've been using it is to be able to delete or at least heavily damage their tankiest unit at the end of a fight, so I can focus on taking out supports and squishies while Jester starts charging up. It's still good for burst damage.

>>382490368
The only things i change to vanilla (and that I encourage everyone else to do) are:
>Firewood stacks
>Grain sacks, medicines, holy relics, and all those 'collect 3 of these' objects stack
>Abomination can team up with religious characters (it was a meme restriction imposed by the backer anyways, and Red Hook themselves said on an AMA that they are going to change the restriction system to be quirk-based)

Man, I suck at this game.

Lost all of my level 6 to the Brigand bomb dude and now I don't want to play, at least for a bit.

>>382499447
he really is a massive "fuck you", and he becomes a constant threat as more and more of your roster gets the curse, they could at least nerf his 40% PROT stat

>>382504018
>This isn't like XCOM where you're going to have a harder time but you can totally bring a bunch of rookies on a hard mission.
XCOM also has a time limit, so any major setback of investment has consequences. In DD it just means grind some more.

>>382500664
I've got that trinket but someone told me it's pretty much shit, he tried to make it good by making the man-at-arms buff up a revenge leper, but in the end jester is just a lot more effective and varied.

>>382499289
on the bright side if you kill him he doesn't appear anymore for a while

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>>382501725
>I'll just let the matchman live for a turn and focus on the cannon, what's the worst that could happen?

>>382504775
...Which leads to having dudes that are actually dispensable. Not even shittalking Darkest Dungeon too hard here (though I am a little). It's just a bad idea to go around telling people something blatantly false.

>>382504547
I think they did in a recent patch. Religious characters can party with the Abom if they have the Faithless quirk.