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Would a video game sets in the Mistborn universe works?

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Would a video game sets in the Mistborn universe works?
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>>382467315
Less than your sentence.
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Vin was a shit protagonist and none of the characters were particularly likeable.
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looks like a standard weebshit setting
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>>382467439
True. Maybe making thread while I'm tired isn't a good idea.
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>>382468203

They're great unless you have shit tier taste
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>>382467315
Mistborn is a shit series for shit people who read shit genreshit. So yes, it'd be perfect.
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Wasn't a game already in the works? At least i heard something about one ages ago but haven't heard anything since.
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>>382468203
>>382468776
What did the people who spend all day on /v/ mean by this?
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>>382468978
What do you mean by this?
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>>382468978
I spend all day on /lit/. I sometimes come on /v/ also.
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>>382467315
A game that uses the setting but none of the characters would be good, although pushing/lurching would require bullet time or they'd have to throw out the metal in the direction you want to go requirement.
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>>382468776
y no taste bro?
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>>382469273
Because instead of reading fantasy shit, I read good literature (like the Bible).
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>>382469363
>Triggered atheist in 3.....2......1
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>>382467315
I want a game based on Malazan
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It would probably play alot like Infamous
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>>382468203
They're 9gag tier.
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>>382469363
Douay-Rheims or KJV?
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>>382469363
You win, you made me chuckle.
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>>382468203
Somewhat interesting at first, quickly becomes boring. Book 3 was a slog. I'm not a huge fan of the magic system either.
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The game is officially vaporware.
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>>382468203
Do you like meta?
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>>382469608
Malazan would be alright if the author stopped forcing his fatty fetish on every second female character.
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>>382468203
They're anime in book form
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>>382470202
I think steven meant to write tattersail, for example, as a thick girl. That's how I imagine her desu.
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>>382468203
It's alright. But generally speaking the characters will probably not leave you a strong impression and sometimes you're just reading fast to get to the part where something itneresting is happening. But I found them enjoyable, tho I don't think i'll read them again for some times.
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>>382468203
It's alright, decent-ish lore, meh characters, shit MC, kinda bad ending of the third book, and seems like it's getting milked with the 5+ books that came after the original 3.
The action scenes are absolute garbage and you'll probably find yourself skimming most of them by the 3rd book, and the only thing that will keep you going is the lore, which the 3rd book shits on like there's no tomorrow.
Magic system's fun in theory, especially the magic described in the 2nd and 3rd book, the non-main one that avoids the writer's weird "Muh magic must be simple" rule and actually lets you wonder about what it can do.
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>>382468203
>>382468681
>he fell for the Mormon meme author
>meanwhile Bakker is releasing The Unholy Consult and completing his fantasykino dual-trilogy
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>>382471656
>which the 3rd book shits on like there's no tomorrow
Why do you think that?
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>>382471656
>milked
The original contract was a trilogy of trilogies: original Mistborn, modern-setting, and a future space opera.
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>>382469608
Me on the left.
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Just base a game after the third book focusing on Spook.
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>>382472162
>you'll never play the Spook dating sim to repopulate the world
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>>382472162
I think the Wax&Wayne setting is a bit more interesting.
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>>382472250
That book 3 teasing tho.
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>>382467315
I could see one doing well in the vein of Dishonored. You'd need good hotkeys to fully handle all the powers of a Mistborn though
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>>382471813
It's been a year since I've read it, but it just felt kinda cheap with all the god stuff that the writer kept throwing at us, the the "power of love" and the "the power was within us all along" things, the big guy basically retconning the whole universe, etc etc.
I guess it's kind of following the general direction the book has been taking in the past books, but I personally liked the atmosphere of the first book before they killed off the godking.
The gloomy desperation, him being so powerful that him merely being around them was enough to make them shiver.
That's what I wanted out of the rest of the series, and I guess I'm just a bit salty I never got it.


>>382471827
Oh, my bad then, It's not like I've even read anything past book 3, so I shouldn't really have complained.
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>>382472548
No universe got retconned. What are you even talking about?
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>>382471792
Threadly reminder that Fanimry confirmed as the one true faith.
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>>382468203
>Brandon Sanderson
Stay away from him and his work. That's all I'll say.
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>>382467315
>Sanderson
Reddit get out
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I know it's only very tangentially related to this thread but THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY UNIRONICALLY THINK WHEEL OF TIME IS A GOOD SERIES

Think about that for a second. That's the kind of fucked up world we're living in
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>>382472683
Oh, shit, I used that word incorrectly, meant that Sazed recreated the universe at the end of book 3
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>>382473004
But it is. The issue is its far from perfect and you have retards screaming that its the best thing ever.

Believe me anon even with all its flaws WoT is so far above the average dogshit that gets published.
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>>382472548
>It's been a year since I've read it, but it just felt kinda cheap with all the god stuff that the writer kept throwing at us, the the "power of love" and the "the power was within us all along" things, the big guy basically retconning the whole universe, etc etc.
It's also been a while since I read it but I don't think that's how it happened at all. No idea about the power of love bit, and I don't know what you mean by the second part, but the bit about the new god fixing things can't be a retcon since he didn't affect the past.
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>>382473004
Only went through the first 2-3 books.
It was a slog, but it wasn't terrible?
Kinda generic, but enjoyable enough if you like power fantasy?
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>>382473029
No universe got recreated. All he did was correct Scadrial's orbit. Reread the book before talking about it when your memory is this bad, christ.
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>>382473004
A lot of people haven't read anything good in their lives so they just don't have anything good to compare it to. Understand that they only read casually, too -- they're the equivalent of the normalfags who play CoD and FIFA for half an hour after work.
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>>382473207
No anon it's pretty bad.
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>>382469945
Not him but Douay-Rheims, because I don't like piss with my wine.
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>>382468203
The worldbuilding and magic systems are top-notch
Action scenes are usually fun
The characters are rather flat
The plot is okay, the underlying story is connected to the worldbuilding and thus great
Same for every Sanderson book I've read so far really
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>>382473029
He didn't.

Planet was being destroyed by earthquakes and volcanoes, Sazed stopped them and put the planet back in its initial orbit. He reshaped the continent too and moved the people around so they'd be closer together but that's it. He certainly didn't recreate the universe.
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>>382469945
KJV, of course. How can other translations compete?
>>382473362
You deserve nothing but death you piece of shit wannabe-Italian.
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>>382473029
Wrong. Learn some reading comprehension son. He used his knowledge of lost faiths and cultures to correct the world's orbit, where Rashek failed to do so.
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>>382473313
Sorry the series was too complicated for you anon.


Here let me recommend something more to your level.
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>>382473132
Was referring to the mist bring out everyone's hidden power, and the couple getting over Chaos in a tad cheesy way.

>>382473223
Fair enough, my memory is shaite, but he also recreated plants, animals, fixed the volcanoes that the godking made and lots of other shit, right?
We're basically arguing about semantics, but at what point does that not count as recreating the world?
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>>382473571
You disgust me.

The only good fantasy is Wolfe and Eddison, no exceptions except Peake.
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>>382469945
Vulgate.
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>>382469295
>yfw Evangeline gets fucked for the crime of doing nothing wrong

Also Mistborn was average, Stormlight is shaping up to be much better.
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Been meaning to try Malazan Book of the Fallen. I know the first couple aren't the best but I've heard once you get into it it's legit 10/10. Anyone who's done it?
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>>382473362
Cultured.
>>382473480
Beady.
>>382473668
Exquisite.
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>>382473596
>recreating the universe
>recreating the world
Harmony couldn't move those goalposts further. Stop talking.
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>>382473759
Yeah. They are extremely overrated.
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>>382473762
>>382473668
Only a retard would choose to read the Bible in the wrong dead language.
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>>382473721
>Stormlight is shaping up to be much better
Im sure in 10 years when the 3rd book is out we can make a decision on the quality.
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>>382472832
I borrowed Elantris from the library just because it had an okay cover... it was okay, but apparently he keeps dropping hints about writing a sequel but has never done it because he's doing this mistborn stuff

frankly though, I only like singular books, or trilogies at best... fuck reading 8+ books just to finish one story
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>>382473759
They're bad. Really bad. Just read the Iliad instead.
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>>382473596
>Was referring to the mist bring out everyone's hidden power
Which was explained by Preservation ordering them to do it. What I never got is why he created the magic system used in the book and then made it so only the people who got the shit beaten out of them could use it.
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>>382473759
Its literally only the prologue of the first book.

Once you get past that and perspective switches to Corkus the book becomes great.
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>>382468203
See >>382472832

I tried getting into Sanderson twice and failed both times. I read a lot of top tier sci fi and fantasy but I also have pretty low standards and will read The Witcher series etc. Sanderson is a special type of boring. It's like his goal is to take the most interesting premise possible and reduce it to a generic soap opera that reads like a high school senior procrastinated on an essay (which I later found out is somewhat fitting because he writes like 3 massive books a year). Then I went to goodreads to try to understand what people like about his writing and no one could really explain it but everyone had the same complaints. So yeah, stay away. I hate using the term meme but if there is such thing as a meme writer he is definitely one.
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>>382473931
But I have. I don't exclusively read modern fantasy. I even have a fancy copy.
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>No one mentions The Black Company
Really wish we got something for these books. They're really good. And BAttle Brothers aint even close.
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>>382473986
The magic system on Ashyn involves people will sicknesses getting powers, the sicker the stronger. No rhyme or reason.
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>>382474039
Then read it again you doublenigger.
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>>382474146
You're just jealous of my fancy book.
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Recommend me a good mystery book where you can reach the solution by reasoning.
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>>382473872
KJV is fine for casual reading, I guess.
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>>382474026
I feel like he's excellent at lore, worldbuilding and interesting magic systems, but his characters and human interactions are just damn basic
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>>382474286
you just posted one.
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>>382474074
I'm sure it's mentioned every time someone starts a thread about potential book-based video games.
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>>382474340
That's sci-fi for you. I wish I could find a decent sci-fi book worth reading. I've read Neuromancer and a few others, but most of them are incredibly shallow in terms of character depth. Dune wasn't anything special either.
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This is a great series, would highly recommend it. The complete book looks nice too.
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>>382474209
It's Butler's prose translation, so no, not really. I'll keep my shitty paperback with the God-awful cover if it's translated by the mighty Lattimautist himself.
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>>382474340
Dunno why that complain comes around a lot, I didn't read all of his books but while the characters could've probably been more developed I don't consider them flats. Maybe they're simple but they're not stupids for the sake of advancing the plot
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>>382473892
People can complain about his books being shit as much as they want, at least he has constant updates about how far along they are.
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>>382474374
stop shitposting bern, you know what i mean
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>>382474626
I have a paperback as well with a different translation. I just thought it looked cool. I ended up buying the collected Poe and Lovecraft because they looked nice too.

Unrelated, has anyone read Gormenghast?
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>>382474470
If you want character depth read Book of the New Sun.
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>>382474580
What's this about?
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>>382474470
the Fractured Europe series is pretty good

>Europe has broken up into mini countries and etc through various shit
>main character is a chef that gets recruited into a europe-wide postal service
>basic spy games where there's a different border every 5 miles
>story skips through different events
>there's also a train-line that declared itself as an independant country, that runs the full length of europe
>then there's the parallel reality you can reach at certain spots
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>>382467315
That's a sweet cape
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>>382474816
Yes. It's GOAT. But I was like thirteen so maybe it sucks. I used to like ASoIaF back then, so..
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>>382473921
He's got a trilogy planned for Elantris. They'll be released after Stormlight 4 and 5.
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>>382473759
Malazan and Kharkanas are both top tier IF you like that type of book. It is very hard to get into if not, and Malazan is a difficult read for a lot of people. Personally I knocked it out in about 2 weeks but most people claim it takes them about a year to finish. They speak in half-prose quite often, and there are a shitload of world-only words to remember. An easier series to get into is actually another book by Brandon Sanderson like Mistborn is, Stormlight Archive; currently only on second book (third released this month) but it's an easier read and pretty fucking engaging even for high fantasy. Other than that, your options are really only Prince of Nothing, and that only because it doesn't focus on self-insert power fantasy character #1 and instead on the side characters, or Wheel of Time, which DOES focus on self-insert power fantasy character #2 but is still a fun read if you can ignore how fucking terrible the women are (read it to see a prime example of why women should not be in positions of power, it's pretty accurate in that regard), or you could always just read self-insert power character #∞'s books, Sword of Truth, if you want to read 30+ pages of a single pretentious monologue multiple times.
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>>382474580
Looking for something similar to read with alternate worlds travel for fun and munchkinry. Any recs?
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>>382474721
Not flat as in dumb, flat as in not nuanced like a real human bean
They're often archetypes like "the scholarly prince" an range firmly on the good/bad scale while not doing much of an engaging arc. While they do sometimes change over the course of the novels, the changes themselves often don't feel all that natural. There also a lot of modern thought and speech patterns going on, like people in feudal societies babbling on about sexism and whatnot, it's pretty jarring
I wouldn't be able to do it better, but I'm a pleb and I still notice it
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>>382473986
It has to do with the meta cosmere stuff. Everyone that gets magic has to be "broken" in some way. Same with Elantris, Stormlight, White Sand, etc.
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>>382474721
Not him. I'm this guy >>382474026. The reason why I have those complaints is the books are just horribly imbalanced. Imagine an writer and director that is only capable of making the first 25% of each of his movies interesting and then, like clockwork everything becomes a generic means to an end. That's how Sanderson reads, sometimes down to the percentage. His books are more manufactured timesinks than they are an experience imo.
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>>382474074
The Myth games were inspired by the Black Company. Probably the closest we'll ever get
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>>382468203
Ehh I found Mistborn series kind of average, enjoyed The Stormlight Archive a lot more, felt like it had more to it than just greater worldbuilding. The Wax and Wayne series is a lot more interesting as well, but that's probably because I like westerns
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>>382474859
To put it in the most basic terms, there's two main realms (amber and the courts of chaos), then shadow worlds between them, one of them earth. It's about a superhuman prince and his family who can jump between these worlds.
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>>382475089
He keeps putting it off though, just like he keeps putting off the Warbreaker sequel. I wish he'd stop writing YA that nobody asked for.
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>>382475126
It's not difficult man, it's just shit.
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>>382475281
That's interesting. The multiple worlds part?
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>>382475126
Third Stormlight releases in November. Not this month.
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>>382475389
It's not difficult if you aren't retarded, but a lot of people are very retarded.
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>>382473892
You mean next year right?
Sanderson is a fucking MACHINE.
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Dresden Files anyone?
I want the author to get off his ass and release the next book already
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>Malazan /lit/ shitposter is here
God damn you are one dedicated dude.
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>>382475569
kys
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>>382468203
I've just read the trilogy. It's a nice premise, but the weakest link is the author. He has an unhealthily repetitive vocabulary and a tendency to repeat facts in an exposition-like manner several times in the same book.
The repetitive vocabulary is noticeable in how the author uses an uncommon word. Then uses it again. And again. It's such an uncommon word that at first you'll go "That's... a word.", but the second time it shows up you'll think "It's that word again." and in the third time you'll just begin to wander if the author is short on words, because there's no reason to use that word so many times. You may then open up your ebook reader's search function and find that word showing up again many times later.
The exposition thing... that's just annoying. I'd give any book series the opportunity to help new readers catch up with the story by mentioning past events once per book. This author describes past events not once or twice per book, but even thrice! How many times do I need to hear about the dull earring given to Vin by her mother?

Story-wise, there's a recurring element of "characters don't see the entire image", which is an interesting concept, but it's poorly executed.
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>>382475284
Mistborn feels like a beta test for The Stormlight Archive.
TSA just has so much more interesting characters and world building.
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>>382475281
>Myth 1/2 : fucking great
>Myth 3 : retarded fans made it and made it so every race had basically the same units
>Bungie struck gold with Halo/MS dosh and were never seen again
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>>382475585
>Malazan /lit/ shitposter
explain
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>>382475374
I feel like he's actually finally telling when he's going to write them, though. We're getting at least 1 big cosmere book between Stormlights now. I'm okay with that pace. Even if his YA is total garbage, he gets the books I care about out faster than anyone else.
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>>382471792

It's not exactly a dual-trilogy. Prince of Nothing is a trilogy, but Aspect-Emperor is a tetralogy. Incredible series, though.

As for Sanderson, his magic systems are really interesting, if you enjoy math and logic puzzles. His action scenes tend to be enjoyable, though very anime. I think his Cosmere is generally pretty interesting, in terms of lore and worldbuilding. Unfortunately, his characters are exceptionally flat and his prose entirely lacks beauty and subtlety.
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>>382467315
I think so, if it was set in the Wax & Wayne era.
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>>382475156
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>>382475546
The book has been delayed 3-4 times already.

The
>Sanderson works hard and pumps out books
Meme is pretty stale. The faggot just churns out YA fanfiction every month the pushes out a normal book nearly yearly.
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While we have a book thread going, can someone recommend a series that really focuses on and explores it's magic system?

I almost wanted to slog through Malazan because it's system seemed amusing, but I guess a combination of English being my second language (I'm good at it, but still...) and it being written in a (for me) complex way left me pretty lost after a short while.
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>>382475637
Surely, there are other words to describe the dog sitting down.
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>>382475823
>The faggot just churns out YA fanfiction every month the pushes out a normal book nearly yearly
Guess which one is more profitable
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>>382475637
>How many times do I need to hear about the dull earring given to Vin by her mother?
It's so you're properly awed when it's revealed that this is how Ruin whispered into her mind
But you're correct
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>>382475797
I hear stuff about Stross that makes me want to read his stuff, but then the book synopsis sound awful

just some sort of timey wimey trash plots
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S-so uhh...is anyone willing to compile a list of good books to read if you like fantasy and sci-fi vidya?
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>>382475585
>/lit/
>ever letting their eyes gaze upon shit like malazan
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>>382475697
Malazan was shitposted in /sffg/ for months until some janitor swept the thread and revealed it was literally just one dude samefagging.
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>>382475637
Your post reads like a pasta. Name one time it happened.
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>>382476005
Yeah but was he saying it was good or bad?
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>>382473921
>he keeps dropping hints about writing a sequel but has never done it because he's doing this mistborn stuff
All his books are set in the same galaxy though
The madman already had the Elantris MC's friend show up briefly in another book
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>>382475926
is it better or worse than "wake the dragon" in Game of Thrones?
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>>382475768
Prince of Nothing is about the only book I can think of that's in the category of "high fantasy-psychological manipulation" or some shit. That guy's understanding of the human mind is some next level shit, also, it's a meta push for eugenics, just look how fucking far they came in only a few thousand years by practicing it to an extreme by culling anyone that isn't the primest of the prime of the litter and training them beyond the limits of humans.
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>>382476052
Wait, lemme guess: it was both, wasn't it?
>>382475637
>stretched his legs
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>>382475923
Pretty much anything since like Rothfuss he has leagues of redditors sucking his dick 24/7 about how deep and insightful and a visionary they are.
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>>382475827
Sanderson is good for his magic systems.

If you can tolerate a very generic premise, the Demonwars Saga books are great. They take a very average premise and turn it into a really gripping series IMO. The magic system is based on stones that can be activated, each having a different power. The only issue is the main villain being shallow. All the other characters I got invested in.
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>>382476049
Not that anon, but "adroitly." And let's not get started on how many people raise their eyebrow.
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>>382475770
I really, really like Wax&Wayne way better than the original trilogy, the characters, everything was better. Something about magic AND wild west is cool as shit, those gun battles with the ability to manipulate metals were great.
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>>382475973
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+good+books+to+read+if+you+like+fantasy+and+sci-fi+vidya%3F
I couldn't resist
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I read pic related early this year and it could make a fun game if they took some liberties with the setting and added more types of dragons for gameplay sake.
I'm imagining a game like King Kong but with dragons instead of dinosaurs and giant insects.
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>>382475827
Sabriel was fun. Read that series.
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>>382475823
Nigger, he's released 7 books in the last two years at least. At least three of them have been cosmere.
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>>382476052
Same as in this thread
>lol its shit xd
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>>382475465
Not sure, I haven't played the games. I think its mostly minor lore similarities.
http://blackco.tripod.com/myth-n-bc.html
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>>382476292
He's not wrong then. It is shit.
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>>382476070
Not nearly as repetitive a far as I noticed
Where do whores go is burned into my mind
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>>382476057
There's one character who's in every book anyway. But as I only read Mistborn stuff I don't really care. Should I check out Stormlight?
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>>382475823
A normal book yearly is a good track record.
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>>382467315

Probably.
Although I liked Steampunk Mistborn a lot more than classic Mistborn. Classic was a lot less fun after the first book once Kelsier (One of the few fun characters) died a Jesus death.

Sanderson has the same problem with his main characters in a lot of books.
They stay mopey way too goddamn long.
Vin was the worst offender of this. She started to grow on me a little bit

He's making the same mistake again with Kaladin in Stormlight. He's too mopey way too goddamn much, but at least Syl is there most of the time to help balance it out, so it's more bearable.

Mistborn, Stormlight, and even Elantris would all be fun settings for video games, just not based off of Sanderson's stories, which are a bit too long winded for the average player to want to slog through.

But the magic systems in each world would make for some fun gameplay. Zipping through a skyline with Allomancy or using surgebinding for creative environmental kills alongside your pixie spirit waifu who morphs into whatever weapon you want sounds like a pretty good combat formula for vidya.
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>>382475827
>>382476195
Forgot to mention, the first book can be read standalone if you prefer not to get into a long series. I left about a year between the first and second, and it rounded off enough that I felt satisfied with it.
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>>382476207
>Adroitly is an uncommon word

'murrican
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>>382475949
For all his flaws I wouldn't call his plots timey wimey. The Merchant Princes series linked about is pretty consistent about the rules of how the mechanics of the dimensional travel work and it has a sorta plausible scientific explanation in later books. It's definitely not the case of coming up with new abilities and random convenient time travel as the plot demands it.
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>>382476057
There are many worldhoppers, even some we don't know yet like the kandra one
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>>382476361
Yes, absolutely. It's long, but really good. I used an audible free trial to grab it and then cancelled straight away. It's 45-50 hours to listen to it through, definitely not short. I was hooked though.
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>>382476361
>tfw read most Cosmere books and only noticed Hoid being omnipresent after stumbling upon him on the internet
Am I just not very perceptive or have you had the same issue
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>>382475926
It was somewhat obvious the time her earring was ripped off and she used the power of the mists. She may fondle her earring as much as she want, I don't mind idle foreboding, but I can't stand being told "she touched her earring which was given to her by her crazy mother after she killed her sister. she didn't remember it, her brother told her that he found her covered in her sister's blood" ten times in one book.

>>382475637
>>382475895
>>382476049
No pasta here.
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>>382467315
childhood is wanting a mistborn game
adulthood is realizing that stormlight would make a better game
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>>382476232
I agree, though I like Mistborn, despite its faults. The more limited nature of the characters' magic helps with W&W.
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>>382476467
>They stay mopey way too goddamn long.
I'm halfway into the second Stormlight book and Kaladin only now started to be slightly less morose so you're onto soemthing there
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>>382476361
You'd enjoy it. Its like a better, deeper mistborn with better characters. And it also has some good meta jabs at SJW's.
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>Reading third Mistborn book
>Hoid teased
>Vin randomly decides to go a different path to her objective and misses meeting him
For fucks sake Sanderson
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>>382475126

When I start reading a series, I always read it to the end. Even if it's shit. Sword of Truth is the only fantasy series that was so bad that I was unwilling to complete it.

Goodkind is basically Ayn Rand in fantasy form, down to the caricatured socialist villains, shrill and hectoring tone, and absurdly long and repetitive monologues on politics and half-baked philosophy. I'm a libertarian whose politics aren't that far from theirs, and I fucking hate them.
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>>382476689
Not that guy but I didn't realize it either
The "oh shit" moment happened on the Way of kings book 2 that had the dude with a talking sword and I looked up if it was the dude from the emperor's soul
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>>382476503
I think I just have a dislike of jumping between realities/time travel/etc

feels like wizards just dropping nukes on orc armies instead of that shit being rare/difficult as fuck
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>>382476689
I also have a bad habit of spoiling myself stuff from books I haven't read. Oh well.
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>>382467315
Yo /sffg/ fag recommend me a essential steampunk novel to read.
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The Name of the Wind is pretty fucking cool

fight me
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>>382476837
>And it also has some good meta jabs at SJW's.
Does it?
I remember one line that was something like "a woman who uses sex to get what she wants is as bad as a man who uses physical force".
That always seemed a fairly feminist way of thinking to me.
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>>382476908
>Sword of Truth is the only fantasy series that was so bad that I was unwilling to complete it
I have literally never once met a man nor seen someone in any thread finish that dogshit
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>>382476704
>Used the same word 5 times in a 300 pg book.
Holy shit anon, he better get a thesaurus, this is unacceptable.
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>>382477060
Try Farseer Trilogy, or Lies of Locke Lamora
If you liked Name of the Wind you'll like them
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>>382476704
>stupefied is a fucking uncommon word

Hey bro mind checking out how many times he uses the word "the" in one of his book?
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oathbringer release fucking when
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Any fantasy based around other historical settings rather than just medieval type stuff?

Particularity interesting in something Asian. All I can think off is Tales of the Otori and The Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox.
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>>382477060
Can't. I agree with you.
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>>382477060
MC IS LITERALLY AND UNIRONICCLY A KEK WHO WATCHES DENNA FUCK OTHER DUDES
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>>382477060
Kvothe is really cool. He's a badass wizard and sword fighter and fucks all the girls in the world and is the strongest ever and also he's my dad but also he's me.
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>>382477060
Goldry Bluzko > Your bullshit
>>382477179
kek
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>>382477314
for
>>382477274
whoops
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>there's a novel from Kelsiers pov after he died
Well fuck me why did nobody tell me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjwfqXTebIY

WE
WUZ
GUNSLINGERS N SHIT
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>>382476093

Bakker writes psychologically realistic and compelling characters better than most lit-fic, while also creating a secondary world that maintains verisimilitude. Also, frenetic action scenes and tense intrigue. Easily my favorite modern fantasy series.
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>wanted to continue reading stormlight archive tonight
>insetad spend all evening talking about it on a tibetian fal colouring temple
This is just like my video games
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>>382477216
Try Tales of the Otori series. It's fantasy Japan.
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>>382477592
Go read, you'll enjoy it. The Mongolian tapestry forums will still be here when you're done.
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>>382477179
I couldn't get through the Lies of Locke Lamora, it was so boring. I remember checking out Farseer but I never got around to reading it, now I'm ticking classics like Dune off the list and getting through the Soldier Son trilogy
>>382477232
Are you a real person? Are you some kind of reddit/tumblr person? I've never met anyone in 4chan (specially in /lit/) that actually liked NotW
>>382477252
We still don't know much about Denna, but Kvothe did fuck the hottest woman in the world for months
>>382477314
Can't find anything in english when I search for "Goldry Bluzko"
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>>382477063
>>382477483
>>382476884
>>382476939
Both of you should read Arcanum Unbounded. Then those scenes will shine even more for you.

Also, imagine an Elantris game on say, the Wii, DS, or Kinect.
>>382477063
It also talks about how women are pampered and men are treated like shit.
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>>382477216
Check out Tigana
It's old Italian
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>>382477483
Read it and the second mistborn trilogy
First book is just used to introduce characters, but at the very end it features Kelsier's brother
Next books go deeper into the lore
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>>382477120

I actually persevered all the way to Chainfire before I just couldn't take it anymore. The only book that I ever liked in the series was Wizard's First Rule, and even that was mediocre. I tried to make it through the whole series, and just couldn't take it.
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>>382477550
Psychologically realistic from a standpoint of them being realistic in their depiction of mental illness, yes, but that's exactly what he is going for with almost all of his characters so that's a good thing. People don't bounce back from shit like most other protagonists do, if something shitty enough happens to them they just lose their shit and go insane, or in the case of the erratics, they go insane simply because a mortal mind is not meant to live forever, it can only store a certain amount of information before it has to start discarding core functions in favor of newer information.
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>>382477826
>We still don't know much about Denna
Anon we literally had a passge from Kvothe about how while other men may have sex with her shes truly in love with him so its fine.
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>>382476793

At least Kaladin's situation merited some of it. Being enslaved and forced to carry make-shift bridges around all day with barely any food, occasionally being forced to go retrieve weapons and supplies from chasms filled with giant lobster monsters? I'd be depressed, suicidal sack of shit too.

But there's no reason for that shit to continue once Dalanar frees them all and gives him a cushy job with more opprotunities and perks than he ever had prior.

That said he does get much better by the end of book two.
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>>382477923
I stuck it out until MC spent an entire book carving a statue so pretty it unmade society in an entire city.
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>>382477670
Already read it. Well some of it. Found the books after the first to be pretty dry and uninteresting all things considered. At least back in high school.

>>382477886
> set in a fictional country, the Peninsula of the Palm, that somewhat resembles medieval Italy
Not gonna lie it's not screaming enticing at me.
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>>382477826
Bluszco not Bluzko.
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>>382477981
>it can only store a certain amount of information before it has to start discarding core functions in favor of newer information.
That seem pretty dumb, why not just expell older infos.
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>>382477923
I made it through the entire series T W I C E, hating it throughout but trying desperately to find out what normies like it so much for. Ask me anything.
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>>382477826
>I've never met anyone in 4chan...
There are a few others. Will be disappointed if it doesn't end as tragic as it seems. 4chan isn't one person, anon.
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>>382477981

Watching Nil'giccas lose it in Sauglish.... those were some feels, even though it was inevitable.
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>>382478178
Read it m'boy
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>>382478059
Yeah, that. The miserable bridge run situation was pretty well depicted and I could feel with Kaladin. I just expected it to be a setup for a much merrier, grown up character later on, but he's still being a fag
At least he knows swell magic now
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>>382478045
I never actually thought much of it because always assumed they'd never be together, which is the reason for him having sex with every woman in the whole world in the second book
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>>382467315
On a somewhat related note, should I just start with Elantris if I want to read the entire Cosmere series? I heard its not a good book to start off with, but at the same time others have said the best way to enjoy the universe is by release order
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>>382478196
they are called Erratics because they murder people, particularly those who trigger some emotion linked to a lost memory. Every time they kill a person they briefly gain a moment of clarity, which is like crack to them. Almost all of the memories they regain are inevitably bad, but they are fine with that, too.
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>>382478253

I think Rothfuss is a master of well-crafted prose, but Kvote is possibly the most Gary Stu protagonist in modern fantasy.
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>>382468203
I've always felt that if you took the entire trilogy and combined the best parts into one singular entry, it would have been an extremely good story. In reality though, the second and third books have pacing which is mediocre at best
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>People shilling for Mormon propaganda
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>>382478418
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>>382478184
I had to go through a post in a super obscure forum about sex to find a post from a guy talking about doxxing or some shit that mentioned that in The Worm Ouroboros there's a character called that.

Fucking obscure way to recommend a book dude, there were like 5 webs that came up in google search
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>>382478606

I never really got a Mormon feel from any of his books though.
Where's the propoganda part?
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>>382478297
>>382478059
Kaladin is a poor man's Karsa in that sense. He has a very annoying mentality and is likely my least favorite character in an otherwise amazing cast.
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>>382478606
Nigger I have read about every Ender Universe book
Now that is some fucking Mormon propaganda
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>>382468203
I read them and constantly found myself disappointed that Vin was the MC and not Kelsier, the infinitely more entertaining and interesting character. The series falls apart real quick when he isn't involved
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>Sanderson is literally more anime than Japanese authors
Pretty funny honestly
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>>382478715
Ah, but now you're subject to the sunken cost fallacy. Don't you want to know what it's about, now that you've done all that?

I am a genius. Also filename dude.
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>>382478606
He wrote a pretty cool atheist character though
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>>382478524
Kvothe being a gary stu is the whole point of the series. There's actually a line of dialog in which he basically says he's making himself look better in the story. All the chapters in the present show he's a powerless fuck and can't do anything right anymore and will probably die being useless because at some point he got too greedy and fucked up.
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>>382468203
Everything in the replies is pretty fair.
I listened to them mostly in audiobook form at work.

Some serious cringe tier moments. But some decent lore.

Sanderson isn't great.
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>>382478524
I think Kvothe is flying headlong into the consequences of his own immaturity and recklessness. You have to set up dominoes before knocking them down.
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>>382477187
>>382477131
Stupefied is not a rare ye olde English word that requires a research in archives to figure out its meaning, but it is uncommon in the sense that I barely see it being used. It's uncommon enough to stand out in a book of 500 pages. And yes, I do expect the author to use a damn thesaurus to avoid repeating the same term.
It's like reading an erotic story that calls the pussy "sex" and nothing else. It's weird and the recurring use with lack of diversity in vocabulary stands out.
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I keep a bit of a "books of notice " list.

Any particularly good ones you think I should go for? I've been in a bit of a literary slump lately and want to get back into some good old reading.

This isn't the entire list just the more recent entries.
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>>382478885
for some reason I disregarded the filename thinking it was a different book from the one you were suggesting before
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>>382479051
Is World War Z in your list?
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>>382478834
>Vin was the MC
But that's wrong.
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>>382479051
The Odyssey, but read Lattimore's translation. Neuromancer and Water Margin are also fun.
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>>382473571
I really enjoy this series, honestly. Can't wait for Kvothe to be called out on his obvious bullshit exaggeration of the truth.
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>>382478804
Kaladin has weapons grade autism.
He's basically /k/
>masters the spear/blade
>masters the art of /k/ombat
>probably worships the /k/ube
>can't talk like a normal person to save his life
>spills spaghetti around hot lighteyed women
is Kaladin /ourguy/?
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>>382478418

Start with Elantris because it's a single, contained story.
Sanderson isn't for everyone, and it's best to start with a single complete story so you know if you'd enjoy 3+ books in a series written by him.
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>>382478619
Thanks. Is this pretty much up-to-date?
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>>382479220
Spren, not even once
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>>382479220
Kaladin canonically has seasonal depression but maybe that shit will go away
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>>382479051
>A Princess of Mars
I've tried reading it several times but eventually gave up. It's just too outdated.
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>>382479051
procession of the dead - d.b shan
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does nobody like Mark Lawrence? Broken Empire was pretty decent
>>382479051
>Black Company
Malazan took major influence from this. That said, the final book is a MASSIVE disappointment, almost ruining how incredible the rest of it was. Tons of loose ends going nowhere, no real ending, you could tell he just lost his will to continue and shat out an ending before fucking off. If you read it, just skip the final book.
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>>382478862
Do you have the edit of the fightscene between kaladin and the edgy kid that someone posted in sffg, I can't seem to find it on my computer
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>>382479220
>Giving a fuck about shitty humans
>When he has his spren waifu to fuck
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>>382479220

Don't forget how he might have romantic feelings for his weapon.
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>>382479250
It's ~2 years out of date but it's still fine, yeah. You're only missing Arcanum Unbounded, I believe.
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>>382479051
Just looked it up, but Cryptonomicon sounds sick. Giving it a try myself now.
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>>382479051
Mars Trilogy if you like hard sci-fi and some politics.
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>>382467315
would a movie set in the bloodborne universe work?
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>>382479161
Vin's the MC because she's the one character you follow in all the books.

In book 1 you follow Kelsier and Vin
In book 2 you follow Elend and Vin
In book 3 it's Elend and Vin, with Spook, Sazed and TenSoon occasionnally, but Vin is the common link between them and she's the one the two gods in the serie fight over.
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Fantasy is a fucking garbage vastly overrated genre of fiction, mainly because it's almost ALL Tokein circle-jerks.

Similarly, no one has come up with an original setting for Fantasy in years.
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>>382479220
>gave away a shardblade because he was feeling particularly edgy at that moment
I actually stopped reading for a while at that point
I'm sure there'll later be a good lore reason for doing so though, like shardblades being in league with a dark spren god or something
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>>382479618
There's some good old fantasy though.
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>>382479583
But Sazed is the MC.
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>>382479335
Are you talking about the last Black Company book?
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>>382478862
An anime about sanderson books would be more fitting than a videogame
All his climaxes are straight out of an anime
>last stand of Elend and the 100 atium allomancers
>Bridge 4 saving Dalinar
>Kaladin dueling 4 shardblade users at the same time to save Dalinar's son
>Kaladin fighting the crab monster in the pit
>Kaladin vs Szeth
>Based antagonist in Elantris saving MC's waifu
>Wax getting the stone full of magic and curbstomping the antagonist

>>382479630
There is a reason
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>>382479618
>Similarly, no one has come up with an original setting for Fantasy in years.
Kawakami, though you could argue its more sci-fi than fantasy
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>>382479154
No. I'm incredibly bored of Zombies.

>>382479181
Thanks. Any particularly good translation of Water Margin?

>>382479303
That was kinda why I added it. Sounded pretty cozy in a pulp magazine kinda way.

>>382479335
Oh. That's a bit of a shame.

>>382479428
I read Snow Crash(which I think is his most famous book) in high school and thought it was pretty nice. Though I'm not sure if my tastes have changed. It was probably pretty corny thinking about it.

>>382479445
I'm not sure I do. Sorry.
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>>382479705
I disagree
It's His Story t. Tidus
But Vin is the MC
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>>382479737
>anime
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>>382479618
Literally Stormlight. Low gravity, partially barren coral reef with flying eels, giant crabs and sprites everywhere.
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>>382479618
The series in the OP has almost nothing in common with Tolkien. They both have an evil overlord and some people can do magic. That's about it. You're an idiot.
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>>382479445
is this Red/Blue/Green Mars by Mim Stanley Robinson?

I enjoyed that ages ago... then I read 2140, and that book is hot dry garbage. All the characters are unlikeable disconnected retards, and it spends half the book talking about all the scienced-up biomes
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>>382479772
Being bored of zombies is understandable, but did you read it? I find it to be way more than just a zombie story.
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>>382479618
Gormenghast is pre-Tolkien and worth reading. It's more gothic and grounded but still has that eerie fantasy atmosphere.
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>>382479872
It's true though
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>>382479618
>everything is Tolkien if I redefine every possible fantasy concept as being derived from Tolkien!

You have no clue what you're talking about. I feel like elves, dwarves, and orcs, are actually kind of rare in fantasy now. At least the decent stuff.
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>>382479737
threadly reminder that the Shin people all have big anime eyes in canon
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>>382479618
>tolkien
Way to show that you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>382479872
Sanderson has more power of frienship anime cliches than a jump series
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>>382480136
Either that, or everyone else is asian-like.
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What are some comfy mystery books that aren't just boring crime fiction? You know something that isn't too depressing and more fun.

A friend of mine forced me to read Ready Player One, and while it was pure reddit "le 80s I'm such a geek XD" shit, the actual mystery egg hunt element really drew me in and now I have this unsatisfied craving for getting comfy up in my bed and reading some mystery adventures. Almost thinking of reading the fucking Da-Vinci code because I'm so starved.

Not counting Sherlock Holmes, already read most of those stories.
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>>382479729
Yes, the one where that nigger child prodigy who is built up to be the next superjesus who will save humanity is literally unconscious for half of the book then never even gets an important scene, or the plots all ending at the edges of cliffs before the finales.
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>>382479927
>Low gravity
Wait what
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>>382479630
The reason is that
Shard Blades are the corpses of dead spren who's knights died while they were weapons. When a Knight Radiant holds one, they hear the blood curtling screams of the dead Spren's soul. It's even worse on their spren partner, who the experience is even more painful for. By the end of book two shard blades end up being obsolete for him anyway, since Syl can take the form of any weapon Kaladin needs on the fly, and doesn't need to be charged up in a highstorm to repair herself
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>>382480276
Maybe some Miss Marble?
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>>382474074
Play Tyranny
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>>382480348
>the form of any weapon
Hold up
Spren can become bow and arrows too?
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>>382480316
that's how they can carry the bridges by hand, the gravity is lower than earth's
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video games?
fuck off back to /lit/ with this shit
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>>382479995
No. All I know is that it was written by the same guy who did the Zombie Survival Guide which I hated so I just kinda wrote it off.
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>>382479772
>Any particularly good translation of Water Margin?
Nope. Gonna have to get used to it with Chink works, especially Classical ones. However, do NOT read Buck's, as it is just plain wrong.
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>>382480348
Thank for the effort but I'll have to read the second half of the words of radiance before reading spoilers
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>>382480480
Hold on, actually I think WM might've been written in common Chinese. Still.
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>>382478524
Kvothe being a Gary Stu is the fucking point. He's an unreliable narrator making himself sound amazing.
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>>382480458
Anything that is a weapon. Kaladin gets a spear, but we saw other shit, and they are able to change at will, Kaladin used like 10 different weapon types while fighting Szeth in the highstorm. I completely agree with the other guy now that I think of it, Stormlight is shounen anime as fuck.
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>>382480478
>I can't read gud
>better make fun of the people who are more literate than I am
your time ended in 5th grade, friendo; you can't steal our lunch money for being nerdvirgins anymore, you are doomed to a life of mediocrity just like the rest of us.
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>>382480580
Do you think it's The Usual Suspects?
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>>382480595
Shit I'm going to need to reread the second book
I hope I don't need to reread the first one again
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>>382480416
You know what, I might actually give some of Agatha Christie's stuff a try. If not Miss Marble than at least Poirot.
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>>382480276
The Man Who Was Thursday, kind-of.
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>>382480713
Nice post, did your boyfriend write it for you?
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>>382480480
Aight. Thanks bredda.
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>>382480765
>not rereading the entire series with each new release of any series you like
I did that with Wheel of Time starting from the release of book five. If I can do that you can do it with literally anything.
>>382480825
nope jamal, you're mom did it while I was fucking her
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>>382480713
>taking pride in reading literary fast food

Shame.
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>>382481159
>Caring about what other people enjoy.
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>>382472386
I Agree.
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>>382480976

Same here, though it was the release of the sixth book (Lord of Chaos) that was my first reread.
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>>382468203
I read three pages and stopped because the prose was shit.

Fuck you Sanderson. Calling a door a "portal" makes you sound like a fucking autist.
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>>382482481
You're more of an autist for sperging out over it
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>>382482570
>not embarking on constant journeys betwixt portals at all times
look at this fucking plebian
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>>382474286
What's this series called?
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>>382481439
I am not so selfish as to let people throw themselves of cliffs.
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>>382467315
This guy's books any good? Tried reading the first Stormlight book and I just wasn't feeling it.
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>>382481439
What's literary fine dining in your opinion? Give me 4-5 books to get into. Preferably not memeshit like Iliad
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>>382473721
>Stormlight

Did you set your jaw prior to typing this?
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Kill all lighteyes
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>>382468203
I liked the first book alot.
The second book is already not as good so far.
haven't gotten to the third book yet.
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>>382483972
>tfw lighteyes are the real genetic inferiors and the entire caste system flips upside down
hilarity will ensue
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>>382483946

Did you mean to reply to the other guy?
Because I never equated books to food.
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>>382477120
>>382476908
I skipped to the ending to read what happens and the main characters lecture the badguy on everything he does after they did it but worse and banish all non-magic users to Earth. Complete garbage
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>>382468203
It's generic shit for the YA audience.
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>>382478152
>>I stuck it out until MC spent an entire book carving a statue so pretty it unmade society in an entire city.
Wtf?! What kind of writing this???
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>>382484565
My apologies.
>>382481159
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>>382478240
Why do they lecture the big bad after being equally bad and arguably worse people?
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City of Saints and Madmen sounds really interesting. Anybody given it a go?
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>>382468203
The lore and world building is crazy good, nobody can match Sanderson in that regard, but the story?
It starts good but gets pretty bad by the end, its a okeish series at best. Ending i so rushed under cooked and out of nowhere that it makes you wonder if you skipped a book or two, or five.

Go read Way of Kings by Sanderson instead, thats an undeniable masterpiece, it lives up to all the crazy hype and reviews it gets.
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>>382484184

The premise is less about generic inferiors/superiors and more about how people will always find a way to segregate themselves.

Even in real life, if all but one race dropped dead right now, the last surviving race would start dividing themselves based on hair color.
Even everyone has the same hair color, they'd just move to eyes.
Then height.
Then to arbitrary shit like how pointy elbows are and nipple size.
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>>382484794
The city was filled with "art" that was all ugly and the church and government forced it to be ugly to show how ugly human nature is. Richard carved a statue even though he had never done the shit before in his life, and apparently it was the best statue ever made in history and everyone dropped to their knees crying and all the priests and government officials shat their pants and ran. Yes, really.
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>>382477029
Not essential at all, but interesting if you like original concepts.

>China Mieville’s Bas-Lag appears in three of his novels - Perdido Street Station, The Scar, and Iron Council. You know you’re in for an original world when you open the pages of Perdido Street Station, which takes place in the city-state of New Crobuzon. Instead of the stereotypical elves and dwarves, New Crobuzon is populated by Cactacae (humanoid cacti), Garuda (bird people), Vodyanoi (a froglike aquatic people), and the Khepri (humanoids with scarab beetles for heads) in addition to common humans. There is magic, of course, these being fantasy books, but there is also science. Using a kind of steampunk level of technology, Mieville includes primitive robots as well as Remade, people who have been altered, some merged with machines. And then, of course, there are the Weavers, spider-like creatures who can exist between many dimensions and sometimes interfere in the course of events. And these are just some of the races and creatures that Mieville introduces over the course of the three books, not to mention technology and magic.
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>>382484901
Jagang was a rapist sexist pervert, all of the shitty things Richard did were to bring down the evil communist empire and their evil worse than hitler leader who enforced batshit retarded policies on fucking everything and went through arbitrary processes of doing things because muh feels. Every character was a manchild aside from Zedd, seriously. Richard was a manchild, Darken was a manchild, Jagang was the biggest fucking manchild of all and worse yet acted like a subhuman missing link tier nigger-ape, he could not control his emotions when it came to fucking anything. Overall, it has no redeeming qualities other than maybe Zedd (and even he is a bit retarded for not trying harder to make Richard into less of a douche), and comparing it with Ayn Rand tier pretentious garbage was pretty apt.
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>>382483946
Memeshit is memeshit for a reason, but desu I agree: it's easier to start elsewhere.

Ficciones, Book of the New Sun, Notes from Underground, Blood Meridian, The Mote in God's Eye.
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>>382485393
It bothers me when people exclusively recommend the most basic literary classics like Dickens and Shakespeare and act like everything else is complete trash. Book of the New Sun was great.
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>>382484913
I read Venis Underground by Vandermeer.

It's pretty far off my comfort range, putting in close to body-horror/horror/weird fiction than sci-fi/fantasy.

I'm not sure what his other stuff is like, but I'm not sure I'm that into it.

Might try and read the Annihilation ones though, since they opened okay
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>>382485393

Can you explain why it's memeshit?
Every time I ask the only answers I get are
>"Mormon propoganda"
And
>"because it's memeshit"

Neither of which explain anything.
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>>382485054
that sounds like a very familiar plot from some other, fairly famous book/tv show

everyone is made to wear ugly shit so everyone looks the same and nobody stands out, and the authorities play noises to make sure everyone forgets any intelligent questioning, but one guy turns out to be fucking beautiful under his clothing and smart and athletic... so he makes one performance, but then gets killed... everyone else is amazed, then the noise kicks in and everyone goes back to watching soaps or some shit
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>>382475585
>Everyone who likes a widely-known book series is actually this one troll on some obscure topic somewhere that nobody knows about or gives two fucks about

This is the most autistic attempt at strawmanning I have ever seen
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>>382486092
>Can you explain why it's memeshit?
Because it's good. Everyone knows it's good, from patricians to pseuds to plebs. Everyone repeats it, ad nauseam.

I have no idea what Mormon propaganda has to do with anything. Are we talking about Sanderson all of a sudden? This was about stuff like the Iliad.
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>>382486132
Actually he's saying that everyone who DOESN'T like is is the shitposter.

And apparently /lit/ has a strong presence on this board, which is interesting.
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>>382476361
The graphic audio versions are godlike
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>>382486625
Fiction readers and people who play videogames both enjoy escapism and have at least a little imagination. Both are generally "introvert" hobbies. It makes sense
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>>382486521
>all of a sudden?

The conversation chain never specified anything in particular, but the first guy in it directed his complaint in the general direction of the thread, which couldmean the OP (Sanderson) or what the thread turned into (General fantasy)
Either assumption is valid.
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>>382477216
Read stuff by Guy Gavriel Kay, he has 2 books in fantasy China but like that other guy I'd say Tigana is the best
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Who /Revelation Space/ or /Xeelee/ here
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>kinda like mistborn
>everyone says its shit
Why is everyone so elitist about books of all things
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>>382487541
Enjoy what you like. Don't worry about these chucklefucks
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>>382487541
>billions like Harry Potter
>I tried reading the 4th one, and it seemed like it was twice as long as it should've been just from how bad the writing was
you win some, you lose some
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>>382480470
I thought it was because they have 20 dudes. How big are the bridges?
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>>382480136
I interpreted this as Shin people being the only roundeyed europeople in the setting and everyone else was some kind of Asian/Middle Eastern hybrid
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>>382487541

4chan is a breeding ground for contraians. The vocal majority here will always hate things that are popular simply because they don't like sharing likes and dislikes with normies.
Sometimes this hate is justified, but often it's just Anons being flip floppity babies, while everyone else tends to stay quiet because it's not worth arguing with people.

Just look at /v/ and how many games were universally praised here until they got popular with reddit and other normies.
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>>382487541
I'd like to know why people hate Name of the Wind so much. It was loved for the first month or two, before the author associated himself heavily with Reddit. All of a sudden it's unreadable trash.
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>>382488483
Pretty much the impression I got, too.
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>>382477216
I've heard good things about Ken Liu's Grace of Kings.
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>>382488694
WMF.
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>>382488694
It was always unreadable trash. It's Twilight level mary sue self insert.
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>>382480479
Good, you'll hate wwz too because it's just as boring
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>>382488694
I have literally never heard of Rothfuss until he turned up in the Pillars of Eternity kickstarter as some sort of fucking amazing person to have as a stretchgoal or something
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>>382488859
Are we tumblr now?
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>>382488694
>None were good enough for her, so I held them in contempt and hated them. They in turn hated and feared me.

>But we were pleasant to each other. Always pleasant. It was a game of sorts. He would invite me to sit, and I would buy him a drink. The three of us would talk, and his eyes would slowly grow dark as he watched her smile toward me. His mouth would narrow as he listened to the laughter that leapt from her as I joked, spun stories, sang...

>They would always react the same way, trying to prove ownership of her in small ways. Holding her hand, a kiss, a too-casual touch along her shoulder.

>They clung to her with desperate determination. Some of them merely resented my presence, saw me as a rival. But others had a frightened knowledge buried deep behind their eyes from the beginning. They knew she was leaving, and they didn't know why. So they clutched at her like shipwrecked sailors, clinging to the rocks despite the fact that they are being battered to death against them. I almost felt sorry for them. Almost.

>So they hated me, and it shone in their eyes when Denna wasn't looking. I would offer to buy another round of drinks, but he would insist, and I would graciously accept, and thank him, and smile.

>I have known her longer, my smile said. True, you have been inside the circle of her arms, tasted her mouth, felt the warmth of her, and that is something I have never had. But there is a part of her that is only for me. You cannot touch it, no matter how hard you might try. And after she has left you I will still be here, making her laugh. My light shining in her. I will still be here long after she has forgotten your name.
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>>382488483

I think it's less that everyone else is asian/middle eastern hybrids and more like that's just Alethi (Which also sometimes evoke a general Mediterranean vibe as well), and since most of the book takes place in their country, that's what we're exposed to the most.

Shallan is clearly some kind of high tier Irish girl, while the horn eaters give off the impression of scandonavian mountain people.
That one armed dude's people (Forget his and their names) even evoke an image of Mexicans or Brazilians in my head as well.
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>>382485391
Why do they banish all the propagandized oppressed people to the worst place they can imagine: Earth
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>>382489167
Reads like a facebook post you'd see in a cringe thread
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>>382477179
>your childhood love interest, pregnant with your son, gets with your foster dad after you "die"
>you angst about this for years but wish them happiness and let it be
>they have kids together and raise yours among them
>twenty years later your foster dad dies
>you then get back together with the girl he was fucking

This alone ruined Farseer.
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>>382476471
>I like my plots resolved with Deus Ex Machina and no resolution to any character arc or motivation
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>>382489483
should have got with starling desu.
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>>382489404
I always thought it was
Shin = normal white people
Everyone else = anime donutsteels with rainbow hair and eye colours

Sort of fits with how anime like the action is.
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>>382489483
That is some next level cuck shit.
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>>382489483
That's about the highest tier cuckery I can imagine
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>>382489483
She really should have ended it with a dead Fool.
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>>382490138

Seriously, even if he's dead...Fucking your son's (blood related or otherwise) widow is some skeevy ass shit.
Then again so is fucking your dead husband's dad.
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>>382490412
Exactly. If it were me I'd be devastated for one and two I would hate them more than any big bad and three I'd never speak to them again.
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>>382489483
>>382490319
hah, I think I read the one book from that where he's dead at the end, and just wouldn't touch it ever again. It just felt like a total fuck you to the character, where he's stuck in a wolf watching his ex-wife or whatever.

then someone said there were more after that and I think I picked up the first book in the Magic Ship series or something, which spent like 800 pages with no conclusions, just kinda going along

I think the main character in that gets cucked by a boat or something
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>>382490842
>I think I read the one book from that where he's dead at the end,
>where he's stuck in a wolf watching his ex-wife or whatever
>I think the main character in that gets cucked by a boat or something
All that shit never happens.
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>>382486092
Funny too since most of Sanderson's work disparages organized religion. Elantris had Shu-dereth, Mistborn had the Steel Ministry, Warbreaker had the Astrians, and Stormlight had the Heirocracy. Each one is depicted as acting like an oppressive piece of shit.
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>>382491253
In stormlight Yasna gives a really good argument for not worshiping the almighty as well
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>>382491015
>>I think the main character in that gets cucked by a boat or something
no I definitely remember this one, not part of the seer/fool books though

kid is a monk, but his dad forces him to go on their magic boat, then he runs away, then he comes back, then some pirate captures his boat, and the boat gets the hots for the pirate
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>>382489483
I don't even care about any of that, it totally fits with Fitz's victim complex and consistent obfuscation of himself and his desires in order to either be left alone or find what's best for others. Other characters including his own daughter consistently call him out for being selfish and stupid in this regard. He ignores the love other women have for him because he doesn't think he deserves it. Kettricken obviously wanted to bone him for ages and he doesn't even notice because he's duty bound to honor his king's memory. All this does set up a very nice, touching scene in I think book 8 where he finally reveals himself to the world again in his true identity.

What actually makes me mad is how my nigga Chade went out in book 9, he deserved better
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>>382491015
What happens?
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>>382491664
>nigga Chade went out in book 9
I had to put the book down after that.
He deserved so much better.
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>>382487342
I read Vacuum Diagrams, shit blew my mind as a teenager...I got the impression I was missing stuff though, so there's probably a mainline novel sequence I missed
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>>382487541
Don't worry anon, I really like it too. The only book I found weak was the first Wax and Wayne book. Also Survive.
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>>382486984
Does he have a book without his fetishes thrown in your face ? Or at least without NTR ?
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>>382479705
L I T E R A L L Y Full Metal Alchemist
ahahahahaha
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>>382488694
Wise Man's Fear is too retarded even considering that it is MC's talking about how awesome he is.
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>>382491930
I knew he was going to go out, because the old mentor figure always goes out, and he'd already extended his life past its natural span...

But slowly going senile and wasting away before dying offscreen? Fucking brutal.
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>>382487342
I read Chasm City recently, that's pretty cool

I have 99% of Ian Bank's stuff, but the later books just have way too many character arcs going on... Reynold's stuff is much tighter, so I'm hoping to read some more.
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>>382492094
There's some sex in Guy Gavriel Kay's books -- I remember a casual hookup and a concubine in Tigana -- but it's generally of the classy variety and I don't remember any NTR. Closest thing I can think of to fetish stuff is a couple scenes in one book with a woman who is dominant in bed. It's nowhere near as cringe as say Wise Man's Fear.

Kay apparently helped finish the Silmarillion so his fantasy pedigree is pretty on point
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>>382471656
Thats not the authors stance. He believes that the ability of a worlds magic system to solve plot problems is directly related to the readers understanding.

This holds up even in tolkeins works. We dont know how Gandalf does his magic and so the ways it impacts the plot is subtle
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>>382492271
Fitz's fate was pretty brutal too man.
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