Why /v/ hates this masterpiece? Give real arguments pls.

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>Runs like shit on all platforms
>story is bad and makes you stop caring about the characters or the factions
>settlement building was a neat gimmick but settler AI is so laughably bad you kind of give up on it and stop caring
>Power armor batteries is bullshit
>Modifying guns could have added more choices to combat, but instead every gun has an optimal mod piece setup
>Season pass DLC schemes
>Preston Garvey and his fucking bullshit
>Voiced character and the dialogue system was poorly implemented and didn't pay off either


I could go on, but that's the gist of it

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>>382400289
answer all these questions first and i'll tell you

Because I'm a NEET living on Christmas and birthday money so I hate everything new until it's like $10 on Steam. Even SJW pixel art shit that I spend all year saying only retards buy, I quickly get on sale on Steam. Judging by all the other people posting FO4, Hollow Knight, Hyperlight Drifter and some other crap, I'd say I'm not alone.

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>>382400990

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There's no real choice in how you play your character. Voice acting the Mc and giving him a set story destroyed any actual roleplaying you could do in an Rpg. The removal of skills was also a step in turning it to more of a shooter and removing depth.

It's not all bad, the gunplay was fun, power armor was done well, crafting was fun and I love the direction they went with the Brotherhood of Steel. Except for the brotherhood blowing up the institute, that was extremely stupid. The writing, characters and overall game were weak compared to New Vegas. I don't hate it but it felt shallow.

>>382400289
>bland soundtrack
>shitty gunplay
>horrible graphics which are worsened by the garbage/junky/wasteland aesthetic
>RNG weapons
>Settlement building is ruined because you can't fucking clean things up/trim hedges in the way
>story is just boring
>the engine REALLY shows its age at this point
I haven't played in over a year but those were the big ones that come to mind.

>>382400663
pretty much just this

>>382401205
>>bland soundtrack
This is where you're wrong. I hate Fallout 4 but it had perfect soundtrack (except the Diamond city radio), every piece of music on Classical radio made the atmosphere in the game, and original composed music was great, it really had that New England feeling to it.

>>382401058
sauce on pic?

>>382400990
>fallout 3 and 4 not being the same guy
Wrong.

To really get into the game I had to abandon the main story and faction quests and do my own thing. The game kept forcing my character to feel certain things that I didn't, creating a disconnect that's ruined the experience. So basically 90% of the game was railroading me harder than an mmo. But if this was an mmo it would force you alliance, warrior, and pick the zones you level in. That's not an RPG. It would be fine if it was compelling thematically or interesting like silent Hill or okami. But the plot is just so boring.

Not a good sign when the most enjoyable way to play is by ignoring 80% of the content. And many people agree with me on this so it's no
>Das subjective I love pretending to care about a baby model for no other reason than I'm told "das ur baby, uh oh he dun got kidnapped. Go sav him Daddio"

>>382401618
Fallout 3 and New Vegas should have the same guy if anything. They're basically the same game

>>382401829
Except Vegas is better.

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>>382402082

It abandoned a lot of the mechanics that made Fallout 3 and New Vegas decent RPGs in favor of more aesthetically pleasing gameplay mechanics that ultimately don't work well together. Take the settlement mechanic. You're supposed to be a wanderer but every other minute you get an alarm about a settlement being attacked. It detracts from the actual game we wanted to play.

>>382402494
>I am silly comic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVO5bUFww0

>>382400663
Don't forget about the shitty UI and agonizingly slow animations you can't cancel.

>>382402494
>literally an "I AM SILLY" mspaint comic in 2017
good to see things never change

>>382402494
The fact that NV was the better game legitimately rustles Todd's jimmies.

>>382400289
4 dialogue choices doesn't give enough options for player choice or immersion.
The sidequests were all pretty bad. While most of 3 and NV side quests were kind of lame and basic as well, at least there was a few good and memorable ones as opposed to none.

The new perk and special system was a perfect storm that hurt both the ability to specialize a character or play a jack of all trades. A lot of the time I felt like "well I guess I need to grind some xp by killing trashmobs" just to do want I want to do.

>>382402494
I wonder how triggered someone has to be to make something like this.

Does the game still get massive frame drops outside of Good Neighbor?

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>>382402672
>>382402879
>tfw the comic is satirical but obsidiots act EXACTLY like how their crudely drawn characters act

>>382401607
minka

>>382400663
Not enough side quests without paying for DLC shit.

>>382402494
Every fucking time

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>>382403228
I'd say about as triggered as the poor person who made this tbqhf

>>382400289
>aim with rocket launcher
>walk diagonally back right
>character walks forward left

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>>382402494
>Fallout 3 man's opinion on the variety of melee weapons
Fucking gunfags.

>in-game "cities" are small!
But that applies to F3 too. And they are not called cities, besides Vegas.

>you can only actually "join" 3 or 4
And in Fallout 3 it's 1 faction. Wow!

>The Enclave may be "the bad guys"
But they just want the purifier, and not for bad reasons like the ones their silly President has. You really don't have much reason to fight them after blowing the Pres up. Or sacrifice yourself for greater good and "because of destiny".

>>382403352
Well, of course it is. It paints New Vegas fans as manbabies and mutants while Fallout 3 fan is a pure blank.

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>>382400663
This.

Also totally black/white dialogue options.

Fallout 4 dialogue options
>Yes
>No
>Sarcastic yes
>Tell me more yes

New Vegas dialogue options
>Yes
>No
>No, but maybe you could convince me for caps
>Yes, but how much are you going to pay me for this?
>Fuck yourself.
>[ 1/10 Intelligence ] Uhhhhh, what?
>[ Terrifying Presence ] Your head would make a nice hat.


The varying degrees of morality you can fly between in New Vegas was great. FO4 felt like nothing but a shooter, where you could even level your base stats. New Vegas was an RPG first and foremost - set your starting stats and thats what you got to work with, now go.

>>382400289
actually is not that bad
it just look full shit next to the other fallout games

>>382400990
>le audience
We're talking about the actual games here, fuck off, kid.

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>>382400990

Dude I love tactics combat, because its the best combat in the series. BUT COME THE FUCK ON.

>>382404009
I know the sauce for that pic is Magi but which one...

I enjoyed it. All I care about in Fallout games is exploring and shooting stuff. This is the only game in the series with good gunplay and the map was an absolute joy to explore. Not too big, densely packed with shit to discover and it had a great atmosphere. Great soundtrack too, just not enough of it.
The writing and characters are absolute dogshit but I dont know why anyone would expect something else from Bethesda. I'm not sure why people were surprised an open world Bethesda game was a buggy mess either. I'll admit I was disappointed they used the the same shitty engine but thats my fault for thinking Bethesda would put more than minimal effort in to one of their titles.
My absolute favourite thing about FO4 though is the amount of people who had never played a Bethesda Fallout game before or who had just recently tried either 3 or NV because of the hype, didnt enjoy either, then claimed FO4 was a huge disappointment because thats what most people were saying. It reminded me that life is a fucking echo chamber, just like this dump and all the garbage alternate sites.

>>382405091
It's from kassim arc

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>>382405091
The Labyrinth of Magic. Somewhen after the Balbadd arc, I think.

>>382403228
The irony being that whoever made that probably isn't even in this thread, and the only person "triggered" right now is you, after having read it.

>>382405309
>All I care about in Fallout games is exploring and shooting stuff
You like this series for the wrong reasons.

>put away your weapons in fallout 3/new vegas
>you see the weapon still on your character

>put away your weapon in fallout 4
>it just disappears from existence until you take it back out
why is bethesda so lazy?

>>382405410
>literally no u
hmmmm

>>382405474
wtf i hate fallout now

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>>382405474
Right. The only proper way to play Fallout is to go around punching enemies in the face, ideally they would also explode from you doing that.

Any "Fallout" game with bad punching mechanics is a shit Fallout game.

>>382400663
This

The weapon modding was particularly what made this game a borefest for me since once you get a good base weapon you dont have any need to loot any enemy settlement other than to fill yours and your companion's inventory with garbage for modding.

Either that or find a legendary creature and pray it doesnt drop another shadowed leather right leg

>>382400289
no interesting or compelling factions

>>382402494
Thanks cRPG fanboy!
Now go back to the 90s and stay there forever with your antiquated trash.

>>382400289
No replay value. I had to kill most of the factions I actualy began to like. Now I have no reason to try for post end game building. Preston also wouldn't shut the fuck up about settlement problems every fucking five minutes.

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>>382402494
(You)

>>382400990
NVfags hate 4 though, so clearly not.

>>382402494
>t. Todd Howard!

>>382400663
Don't forget about all the shitty go here and kill x mobs and get this macguffin quests

>>382405309
Can I ask what shit was there to discover?

If you're talking about settings then I can't argue with you since its subjective; Personally, other than the glowing sea, I cant remember many places that were particularly interesting.

Other than that there's not much else I can think of. Very few unique weapons that were actually unique or fun to use

>>382407552
Not him but the only compelling part of FO4 was the cityscape. Loved walking through each neighborhood.
Shame there was no depth to that at all in the form of story/characters.

>>382400795
lol just pirate it nerd

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I would like to know the answer to this question too anonymous, I've always thought that Fallout 3 and 4 (plus DLC!) were the best games of this generation, right up there with games like Skyrim!

>>382400289
I'm having fun, but you have to make your own sound effects. It's like you have to strip the game of it's flaws and play it like playing with trucks. Yeah the truck is cool and detailed, but then you have to add the sound effects to make it fun. It's disappointing having bad dialogue bad story, so you just have to make up your own story in your head and roll with that.
Then it becomes fun, for what it's worth. The game engine is a bit slow and the Ai is flawed, but it runs overall pretty well.
Melee is a bit overpowered, but modifying and crafting is pretty alright. Don't like the sims simulator.
It's not perfect, nor is it horrible. It's just pretty good.

>>382400746
>bethesda narratives are absolute dogshit

wow what a revelation anon

>>382402494
this was an obvious bait and he still fell for it. I bet you have a folder of images and just bait with contrarian opinions just to get a few suckers and (you)s


well you got another one bud

>>382402653
why is it that games with good writing always feel stiff and look like dogshit, and games that play smooth with great mechanics and aesthetics always suffer in the writing department. Why can't these things coexist? Mass Effect 1 and 2 are the only things that come to my mind that are both engaging from a writing standpoint but also feel good mechanically and look pretty good too

Reminds me of the jump in smoothness from morrowind to oblivion, but god was oblivion bland and sparse when it came to voice acting and writing.

>>382400289
What if the game had done a BotW and started with the player waking up in the vault with no memory of their past, and you can do missions to unlock memories? This would let people RP their character a bit more I think.

>>382409476
But me1 was a snoozefest and 90% of 2 was recruiting teammate.

Every damn fucking game has a good part of it and a bad part of it. Even though most games these days have a more accentuated bad part.

Why would you care about what other people say about a game? If you like it, it's fine, if you don't like it, it's still fine.

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>>382400289
My first playthrough, I chose to work with the Institute because, at least the first time, I wanted to be the family man and work with Dad. The missions they had you do leading up to the end were complete fucking garbage, literally just skill checks, and then one random prep mission, BOOM DAD IS DEAD game over. Fuck off, I uninstalled the game right after that, and I doubt I'll play another FO game made by Bethesda

>Pic related, it's a pile of trash

>>382409638
>me1 was a snoozefest

STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM

as far as ME 2 you are correct but I'm saying the balance of mechanics and graphics with storytelling was there. ME 2 stepped back from the politics and had you focus on your team, but dammit if the Tali and Garrus side-quests weren't gold idk what is.

>>382410927
Sounds to me like you're just a whiney little bitch

>>382411121
t. todd

SPECIAL doesn't mean jack shit anymore
Plot is particularly retarded
Lack of interesting characters
Factions are bullheaded idiots with no self perception.

>>382411384
t. sawyer

New Vegas remake/remaster FUCKING when?

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>>382412008
>New Vegas but with Fallout 4's combat
>with the Legion content that was meant to be in the game in the first place
>also romancable characters but only in the ending slides
I need this

>>382400289
>Voiced actor having for consequence to limiting dialog
>dialog wheel
>"Yes", "sarcastic yes", "no but I actually mean yes", "see you later" as dialog choice.
>Preston "another settlement need our help, and by our I mean you general" Garvey
>barebone settlement building
>S.P.E.C.I.A.L useless
>perk system is inferior to NV
>can't actually play a bad guy
>Less quest than previous games because game emphasise mostly on radiant quest.
>boring radiant quest everywhere
>basically borderland 2
>retarded story
>I was director of the institute but even then I never got an explanation about why it is so important to kidnap people to replace them with synth
>imposed background for the character
>no actual city
>special for France : never bothered to adapt for AZERTY keyboard, yes you can't change it in menu execpt for when you are in building mode.

>>382400289
It tried to be witcher with voiced protagonist but failed.

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>>382400663
>Runs like shit on all platforms

Get a better PC kid. I get 100fps 1440p with tons of mods and SweetFx.

>story is bad and makes you stop caring about the characters or the factions

Subjective. I liked the story.

>settlement building was a neat gimmick but settler AI is so laughably bad you kind of give up on it and stop caring

Get better at the game?

>Power armor batteries is bullshit

It's a non issue if you're actually playing the game correctly.

>Modifying guns could have added more choices to combat, but instead every gun has an optimal mod piece setup

??????? what are you even talking about

>Season pass DLC schemes


Wah wah wah, a game has optional DLC, get them lads!
>Preston Garvey and his fucking bullshit

Wah wah wah, i dont like this character because 'bullshit'. xd?

>Voiced character and the dialogue system was poorly implemented and didn't pay off either

Use mods and turn off voice for your character, and dialogue system was implemented for brain dead fucks like you.

Debate me.

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>200 years after war
>everything is still shit, people literally living in smooking ruins
Why isn't universe of fallout progressing?
Pic related is warsaw in 1945, looks pretty post apo, but 15 years later it looked pretty much rebuild.

Even some small communities should be able to make towns or cities with walls that's look like actual nice places to live instead of junktown tier, some industries should emerge etc.

>>382413950
>picture
No Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, even though New Vegas is there. Clearly made by a troll who didn't do his homework.

>Get better at the game?
Anon was clearly shitting on the AI, how can getting better improve the experience if it stays the same level of bad?

>xd?
Xd means laughing, you clearly use it wrong. I like bridges.

>and dialogue system was implemented for brain dead fucks like you.
Clearly it wasn't if the anon hates it. And if it was, Bethesda totally failed when thinking what the anon wanted. What hacks.

All in all, you are pretty bad at trolling. Concentrate on this sentence.

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>>382414605
>07
that reminds me of pic related

>>382414605
There is no real-world example that makes for a good comparison point for this. If the entirety of civilization was in the same shape as Warsaw is in that image then Warsaw would not have been rebuilt in 15 years. When the water isn't safe to drink, the food isn't safe to eat, the vast majority of the population is dead, and the only political groups to grab power are all corrupt and self-obsessed you wouldn't end up with a rebuilt city. 210 years certainly is a long time, and it probably would be in better shape than you see it, but to assert that they should be anywhere near their former glory is kind of crazy.
Also of note: people tend to be okay with living in a bad situation if the alternative is working their asses off to make a marginally better situation, there was enough intact infrastructure for the few scattered surviving groups to be okay with living in.

>>382412008
>Wanting a remake instead of a new Obsidian-made entry
Cancerous retard.

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>>382402494
(you)

>>382414730
xd he likes something i dont like what a troll xd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>382415105
>210 years certainly is a long time
210 years ago there were no computers anywhere on planet earth.
New york city and it's skyline didn't exist, people in europe were wearing funny wigs and people living back then would be considered borderline retarded by today's standards. world of the fallout looks like that war happened 5 years ago. Also there is plenty of people everywhere you go. There is no reason for abscence of massive baby boom that happens after every war, food shortage also should be easily overcome, humans are smart besties, they would figure something out.

i just got new vegas, and admittedly i dont like single player games, but i did the first kill the gekko missions and gather some plants hit and im bored af already. wtf is this shit?

>>382416956
Don't bother, videogames are clearly not for you.

Typical quest.

>Do you want help me get my teddy bear back?
>You just need to wade through this sewer.

1. Yes.
2. Sure.
3. Why not.
4. <<<le sarcastic yes>>>

>>382417104
i just like beating humans on the other side of the internet man, sorry

>>382417143
le sarcastic yes is the best option, then proceed on not doing the quest.

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>>382400289
Are we being raided by third worlders? I keep seeing these threads where niggers like you can't even ask a simple question.
>hurr why /v/ hate game ooga booga

>>382400289
HATE MASTERPIECE

>trying to role play and immerse myself in this fantasy universe
>MY SON SHAWN
>muh 5 voice actors in the entire game

>>382417373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEK5VxDMMjo

>>382400289
Yes
Aggressive (Yes)
Sarcastic (Yes)
Yes

>>382417289
>Are we being raided by third worlders
If you were here on April 1st it clearly showed that all Shitposting/Shill/SJW/AntiAmerica/AntiTrump posts were all Europeans/3rdWorlders/Canadians

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>>382413950
You deserve to die with that formatting

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>>382417680
You are actually wrong

>>382415105
Compare to 1,2 and NV, 3 looks like it has only been a year since the war.

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>>382400990

I liked, but I fully admit that the game is flawed.

I had hoped the factions would be fun, but they were all disappointments.

Railroad was boring beyond belief, at their core they were just "slavery is wrong", great, what a daring and original idea, I am overcome with enlightenment at this unique stance, if I could tip my fedora in a euphoric rage any faster I could have made fire.

I could not bring myself to care about the synth bullshit, who gives a fuck? Robo brains are more humans than those things, and yet you dont see the railroad give a fuck about them, and I would not care even if synth were "human", synths are tools to be used for the good of mankind, nothing more or less.

Brotherhood was just more of the same when I wished for something new.

Institute had potential, but you never get to do anything, you cant take over the commonwealth with a army of synths, you dont get to make your own synth or get a unique power armor, you dont get cyber implants, you get nothing.

The dialogue option was more or less copied straight from mass effect, and its ironic how shepard can do crazy shit like unleash the rachini on the galaxy or genocide quarians/geth, but the sole survivor can do nothing like that, there are less roleplay options than in fucking mass effect.

While fallout 4 can be fun, the game is too great a case of what could have been.

HATE

>>382419364
the point was is i dont have a political stance your just a puppet of a crap system

>>382419364
it was cute to watch your snowflake induced "everyone i dont like is hitler"

>>382414605
>Why isn't universe of fallout progressing?
That's what Bethesda doesn't get about Fallout, in Fallout 2 and New Vegas people already started to rebuild and nation have been created (New Republic of California) meanwhile Fallout 3 and 4 have wasteland territory without any form of civilization in 200 years.

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>>382402784
>shitty UI

Even with how close it was to release I remember thinking the HUD had to have been a placeholder with how shitty and rudimentary it looks. Even going beyond its appearance, things like capping the oncreen ammo count at 3 digits is retarded. The Pip-Boy is also total dogshit, the one they did for 3 let you get to any section of it you wanted in no time at all and now they lay it out such a poor way you need to spend time scrolling to see different sections and now notes are mixed in with miscellaneous items for god knows what reason. It feels like such a minor thing in saying it but you use it all the time so the frustration builds up.

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PWNT
Will obsidiots ever recover?

>>382420282
this is the superior opinion, if anyone disagrees with this, please end yourself.

you are whats wrong with gaming.

>>382417775
ugh, found the reddit fag.

>>382419807
this desu

>>382400746
all of those questions can be answered though LOL, who ever made up those questions clearly know nothing about the lore.

Shit game.
Might be fun in VR.
If I can melee people using the VR motion tracker I'll be happy.

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>>382415153
>he doesn't want to see the full realization of their vision for NV with all the cut content restored and less inhibited by technical limitations
>along with said remake also serving to ease the team back in the mindset for making the next Fallout

>criticising a Fallout or TES game based on a vanilla version
The fuck is wrong with you people? No one plays these games vanilla.

>>382417680
The USA is a third world nation, you fucking moron.

>>382419778
your logic is so flawed lol holy shit. how do you do basic tasks throughout your day?

>>382413950
wow you are stupid
>>382413950
>>settlement building was a neat gimmick but settler AI is so laughably bad you kind of give up on it and stop caring
>Get better at the game?
>>382413950
>>Modifying guns could have added more choices to combat, but instead every gun has an optimal mod piece setup
>??????? what are you even talking about

>>382421092
still waiting on an argument snowflake

shit i would settle for a point

>>382400289
>Minutemen super boring despite being interesting concept
>The Institute completely wasted by giving no justification for their FO3 Enclave level villain bullshit
>Absolute shit tier dialogue

Just an absolute mess

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>>382400289
>Masterpiece
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>You never make any meaningfull choices that impact you, in an RPG wich are all about making choices to actually ROLE PLAY, you also play as an premade character instead of being your own character.
>Gun fights are OK (wich is not a complement) but most area's dont have any depht put into them. Guns are also horrible, with reused models and horrible design
>Leveling is dummed down, last games had you put points in the boring stats and perks in the fun stuff, now its all just putting perks in boring stuff.
>The world doesnt make sense, Diamond City is in the most dangourus part of town and doesnt produce anything so there is no reason for it to be as big as it is. Lore is a meaningless word in this game, making radiation gods canon and ofcourse the butched mutants and Brotherhood
>Dialogue is actually a joke, there is no way it can actually be defended, its just dummed so that they can have a voice actor (a horrible choice in a role playing game, because your character might not sound like you want him to)

>>382413950
The bait is real

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>>382413950

>>382413950
>Debate me.
You can´t debate someone who is not willing to debate.

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>>382402494
Toddout fags, not even once.
I have never seen a good argument come out of the mouth of someone who defends the Toddout games

>>382420539
You dont seem to be able to answer them though.

Saying something is SOOOOO EASY yet you are not going to do it because that would be beneath you is what children do to try to win an argument.
At least until they leave kindergarten.

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>>382405651
>>382403228
>>382402672
>>382409298
>>382407029
>>382415734
>>382422067

Obsidiots blown the fuck out

>>382421076
Lowest effort bait I've seen today, have your consolation (You)

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>>382422449
>makes a strawman
>projects feelings on said strawman to make it seem real
shut up and go make me a sandwhich hoe

>>382400289
i wont bother going in detail, but:
a game cant be referred to as "a masterpiece" when it suffers heavily from ludo-narrative dissonance. for this reason it is painful to play the game.

dialogue wheel: an unnecessary addition that limits dialogue outcomes. choices are arbitrary, misrepresenting, or plain retarded (sarcastic).

leveling and character build. they streamlined it and it failed.

^ the main reasons i hate the game

>>382400746
>Post a screenshot of a bunch of questions
>Doesnt post the responses that obviously answer all the questions
Really activated my almonds.

>>382422624
It's not a strawman
Later homo lmao kys

>>382422806
>literally I AM SILLY
>not a strawman

>>382422909
You are actually silly though.

>>382400289
Brings nothing new to the table that New Vegas didn't do better.

Bad writing, old technology, boring art direction, and 2006 quality gameplay.

Only people who exist in the realm of the below average would see Fallout 4 as anything more than a cash grab capitalizing on the plebeian

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>>382400663
>make settlement
>put 20 laser turrest all around
>they dont work and dont protect the settlement unless you are there

>>382423020
Do you know anything about me? No? I thought so.

>>382400746
I remember that thread or one with those questions in it. It had that autistic FEV guy that cant handle super mutants existence in F3.

>>382400663

Don't forget:
>you get power armor and kill a deathclaw 30 minutes into the game

>>382400289
>still underclocks and power starves AMD cards on a crossfire setup
seriously what the fug
on top of everything else

>>382422234
I WORK 60 HOURS A WEEK I DONT HAVE TIME TO ANSWER OBVIOUS QUESTIONS ON A MONGOLIAN TOAD POSTING BOARD

90% of those questions have a logical answer. just fucking google it moron.

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>>382423861
i have to get a riot shotgun and boone with me to kill my first deathclaw
and cazadores are scarier than deathclaw

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>>382400289
Let's see
>voice acted protagonist who always sounds like a 30y/o white guy so any other options of character creation just make it look/sound weird
>too much of a forced backstory, you're supposed to care about a kid you see for maybe 5 minutes total
>generally pretty badly written dialogue
>maybe a total of 3 good side quests
>lack of side quests in general, not counting the infinite quests of go there kill x and return
>Gunners, who seemed like an interesting merc faction are just another flavor of a Raider
>factions are retarded with their decisions and funnily enough Minutemen are the least retarded of them all
>Legendary Enemy has mutated; those drops pretty much make any unique weapons uselss (I don't even remember seeing any)
>most locations boil down to you shooting ghouls/raiders/mutants, getting to a chest and leaving which sounds awfully lot like Skyrim
>settlement building makes no impact on the world, gives no unique quests or unique people that live there
>power armor while being probably the most fun in the series need fusion cores every 15 minutes or so making most people not use the PA at all
>lore/worldbuilding breaking quests, mainly the kid in a fridge one
>being able to get 10 in every SPECIAL, perks are mostly just increase damage, no skills and barely any checks
>radio host is shit and many songs are recycled from F3


That said the game makes shooting a bit more fun than 3/NV. Companions are fairly nice. Can't really say anything else.

>>382400663
i really love fallout 4, and these are all fairly valid points - some a bit general and subjective though.

Gun modification system is on the mark... everything is tiered and optimal, which is a bummer. Granted this is what every bethesda game is like, including elder scrolls. Everything is tiered, and there is a very linear upgrade path. It's not too bad at first, but if you like to replay the games (who doesn't), with an immersive pile of mods, the tiered equipment really gets in the way

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>>382423269
>the settlement is under attack we need your help
>go there and it's 5 raiders/feral ghouls wandering around

>>382423269
>Sanctuary is under attack
>Halfway across the map
>No fast travel because survival mode
This is actually unforgivable. I was role-playing as a proper minuteman general building settlements everywhere and this just killed the game for me. Knowing I was just going to be chasing this shit every time it happened despite how I built my defenses.

>>382400289
Considering what Bethesda done to the Fallout universe in the first place, how they jumped ship on the west coast and then how they dumbed down the dialogue to be even worse than Fallout 3, that is a big travesty. A isometric turn based RPG under Bethesda turned into an action RPG with Elder Scrolls tier writing for the mian story.

Just get it for the porn mods.