NEW Sources: Mass Effect: Andromeda Will Not Get Single-Player DLC

How true is the hoax post about Bioware turning all its efforts towards Anthem?

>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong

ME3.

>bese trilogies

One good game, arguably two, doesnt make a good trilogy.

>ended up like this?
Read the above, the hype was dead before the game was even made. Only suckers bought MEA.

>>382388079

It's odd. I thought ME:A was financially successful.

What's wrong with that? Why do you want DLC? And they launched without a season pass so it's not very surprising they're not doing anything.

>>382388079
and? it was dead upon arrival

>>382388475
It sold less than half of what EA anticipated

Why did they bring Krogan along to Andromeda anyway?

>>382388079
The series should have ended at 3 this was just another case of EA milking a franchise for all its worth until it died like they did with dead space 3.

>>382388079
They thought they could sell enough games by pandering to progressive liberals so they didn't bother to make a good game.

>>382388979

For RECYCLED ASSETS

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>>382388475

>successful
>went on sale less than 4 months after release for 50% off

L-M-A-O

>>382388475

Lmao no. It didn't even really sell in total what EA expected it to sell during launch week.

>>382388475
When you're AAA, simply making a profit is still a failure in the eyes of investors. It needs to be a smash hit that earns 10x the cost otherwise it's not worth it.

This game would have succeeded if you bigots stopped hating strong autistic women of color

Now we're going to keep changing all player characters to be one until you accept that you were clearly in the wrong..

>>382388475
I doubt from the info I could find about it sales I would estimate it sold around 2 million 2.5 million tops which is awful figures for a mass effect game. For comparison ME3 has sold over 6 million total 3.5 million in the first month.

ME:A had a $80 million dollar budget half of that being marketing, if it turned a profit its not much and small profits won't cut it when it comes to EA especially for some a big earning franchises.

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>>382388079
This is what happens when you have SJW Pajeets that are whitephobic, along with an anti-white Tumblr crowd of gender studies, develop a game that is supposed to be AAA tier.

Pic related.

>>382389329
They made the mistake of thinking they actually buy games most of them just complain about them. Funny thing is even trans were not happy about that trans character who was completely shoehorned in because within the first few seconds of meeting the character they casually say they were born a man.

>>382389495
>>382388718
This.
Also, how the hell did they mess up facial animations so badly.

>>382390123
>"Blame the dominance of your species/race/gender"
Did he just admit he hates white people because he is beneath them?

Is this why indians are always butthurt about white people? An inferiority complex?
Is this the case with all ethnics or just the ones that know they're trash?

>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong that one of the bese trilogies in the previous generation ended up like this?
marxism in the workplace

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>>382390380
I would still like to know who actually play tested this and thought it looked good.

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>>382388079
>hire a bunch of people not based upon experience and ability but upon social and ethnic backgrounds
>they develop a game that doesn't focus on plot or series history but as a platform of pandering to SJW's and similar types
>the last update added a gay relationship instead of much needed fixes
>turns out the people who actually buy vidya don't like any of that
>game fails so horribly that it ends a series and the developers themselves and knowing EA they've all been blacklisted
>failed so hard that in the age of DLC, ME:A's DLC was cancelled

I'm loving this.

>>382388079
>Kotaku
>Sources
>Jason Schreier
I mean I wouldn't be surprised or anything, but this clown has subzero credibility when it comes to anything.

How did Andromeda make it through QA?

>>382388979
To provide physical labor, mostly. They were even given no political power and were apparently okay with this arrangement starting off. Director fucked everything up by promising it in exchange for military aid, and then not delivering.

>>382390698
>How did Andromeda make it through QA?
Affirmative action.

>>382390698

Wasn't EA forcing BioWare to push it out because it was taking too long?

>>382390545
Yeah, sure. Concentrate on the SJW bullshit and not on
>bad writing
>bad animations
>all those bugs
>lore fuck ups
>uninspired design
>lack of choices
>lack of character development
Cheap labor and the use of interns instead of people with experience is the problem (well, and getting rid of almost everyone who worked on ME1 over the years).

>>382390551
There were already enough threads were /v/ accepted those fake facebook posts as truth. It doesn't matter as long as people want to shitpost.

>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong
ME2

>>382388159
Zero base, but highly probable/likely

>>382390545
Is it just me or was this species a really bad design choice? They're so forgettable.

>>382388079
Hope EA learns from this sjw disaster

>>382391142
It was biowares own mismanagement of time and funds.

>>382391736

everything about mass effect andromeda is forgettable

>>382390402
That's definitely why blacks hate us

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>>382390545
Is that really the best alien design they could come up with?

I'M ONLY HUMAN AFTER ALL

>>382391375
All those things are a result of hiring for diversity and not on merit. If a bunch of veteran white males made this it would've been great but we can't have that these days outside of poland

>final battle
>HIT THE BUTTON
>RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

The person working on the story should've went to jail

>>382391375
>getting rid of almost everyone who worked on ME1 over the years
They didn't 'get rid' of those people they abandoned fucking ship

>>382391910
Yeah thats why

>>382390698
internal "game reviews" scored the game at an 85, or above 80. I'm not kidding. this was good enough for them

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>>382391487
ME2 needed to fix everything the first game did wrong and EA had ridiculous deadlines. It's a miracle the game turned out as well as it did.

>>382392216
I completed the game and I have no idea how and why anyone would rate this game more than a 7/10.

>>382391889
This.

Hate EA all you want, but when Bioware Montreal wastes their entire pre-production phase creating No Man's Sky and then changes their mind, they can't cry foul when their bosses aren't willing to prolong development another 2 years just to cover for their mistake.

>>382388475
It's 30 bucks on the Canadian amazon right now, games don't get that type of discount that quickly unless they're shit and having trouble selling them

But wait, I thought gamers want SJW themes and games packed with trans, strong independent womyn and gay people?

>>382388979
Because the Krogan have something SO GOOD that there is no way they would be able to live with leaving them behind.

>>382391375
The majority of those points are the result of SJW bullshit.

>>382392678
gamers dont give a shit if its a good game
andromeda was buggy as shit, looked awful and had a shit ton of bullshit menus and screens packed into it
>>>/pol/
>>>r/thedonald/

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>>382390545
>that design

>>382392148
smart people.

>>382392820
BUILD

>>382389495
Sites were having 50% off preorders with how the press was going

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>>382390545
>it ends a series
I feel bad now...

>>382390380
Apparently the actual skill level of the people they were hiring for the project was deemed less important than their ethnic backgrounds. Gotta score those social media points.

>>382392812
Is this really all you people can concentrate on?
>indian intern delivers shit
>white veteran delivers gold
Which one is the defining factor I wonder. The skin colour or their experience and knowledge?

>>382392924
Yeah well they had Doctorates and shit so probably

see it's a reference

because the founders of Bioware were Dr's, and they fucking left the company after ME3

>>382392678
People who actually buy games don't give a shit about that stuff but most developers can't seem to include all that and make a good game at the same time.

What EA SHOULD take from this:
>Gamers don't want SJW themes and undertones
>Don't shit on white people
>Stop throwing gay and trans agendas in our face

What EA WILL take from this:
>Lets make our games easier
>Lets push more SJW themes

>>382388079

>what the fuck went so wrong

Nu-Bioware. The company decreased in talent drastically after the EA merger. Their last good game was Dragon Age Origins, which was largely finished development by the time EA took the reigns.

I'm not entirely sure what EA did to them, but they sure as fuck employ a lot of untalented fuckheads, dykes and gays; and it shows.

>>382393178
It's a shame because SOME political themes are good in games. For example, MGS2. That makes you question your existence, society etc.

What we don't want to hear is how evil white people are and how "stunning" and "beautiful" minorities, gays and trans people are.

HOLY

SHIT

I CARE SO DEEPLY

>>382388079
Game was slapped together in a little over a year. EA was too busy using the Bioware A team to make their Destiny ripoff, Anthem.

>>382393120
SJWs hire people based on skin color and gender and not on experience, so it is one in the same.

>>382393216
>EA committing suicide to appease the small vocal minority instead of the more quiet majority
>other developers may watch and learn from this
>Bioware/EA may be the sacrifical lamb in order to make game developers wake up from SJW hell

>>382389878
It's been confirmed that Andromeda had a 40 million budget. Where the fuck did you get that 80 million number from?

>>382388079

it's kind of amazing how quick EA is abandoning mass effect. I mean shit, even dragon age 2 got a pseudo expansion dlc.

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>>382388079
>more concerned with DRM-ing a game into failure than making a decent game
>...DRM that did literally nothing besides contributing to killing the game it infected

priceless!

>>382393684
Yeah, because those high-ups who make the calls are SJW and not greedy jews

>>382393373
I think EA forced Bioware to push out Dragon Age 2 in 2 years tops, which resulted in a shitton of crunch time and people being pulled off Mass Effect 2 to meet the deadline. That would've resulted in a ton of burn-out and a lot of the old guard leaving due to the stress, if you believe Kotaku's article about Andromeda's dev cycle.

>>382393789
I thought EA were greedy jews. If SJW games fail to sell they would be the people to kill it the second failure happens.

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I wonder if the SJW crowd applies the same level of logic to other parts of their lives as they do the entertainment industry. I like to think that at some point some tranny has left their car for repairs at some shitty mexican shop soley because they couldn't stand the idea of white males taking the time and effort to perform a job well done.

>buy prestigious brand
>proceed to run it into the ground on the eve of its biggest release gamble
>millions of dollars invested into anthem now tied to a brand associated with complete mediocrity

I love karma, fuck EA

>>382393896
It got 2 with another DLC that added a companion with new dialog with previous members and relevant quest for him.

>>382392810
K R O G A N
O
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>>382393789
>tfw we could start to get more politically incorrect games in the future
Can't wait.

>>382388079
I saw it on sale on XBL for $30. Just couldn't bring myself to do it. Trans gendered Krogan just is too gay.

>>382388079
how do they know it was just a hoax and not an actual employee leaking it out? kinda stupid to say "IT WAS FAKE BUT ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING"

>>382393216
Jesus Christ, you're an idiot. If you think that ME:A was a failure because of SJW agenda pushing, you're a fucking moron. It failed in the mainstream due to it being a buggy, ugly piece of trash. It had nothing to do with SJW nonsense.

What they should take away from it is:
>Cut out cross-team development within EA, keep that shit within a specific team
>Optimize development cycles for games. Don't completely change scope and focus 18 months before launch.
>Make sure your programmers actually know how to work with the engine you're having them develop entirely new systems for.
>Leave enough time for good QA at the end so you can catch fundamental animation rigging breaking the fuck in half.

>>382388079
So what happens with this "season pass" which they sell even before the game has released? This is immoral and if someone defends such practice they should be hanged, shot and driven over by a Buick.

Do they give a refund for morons who bought season pass or...?

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>ME:A was a reboot of the series after the critically panned ME3 ending.

>New Galaxy, 600 years in the future after ME3

>We get THIS

>>382394330
>tfw a good portion of those problems stem from SJW bullshit and hiring unqualified faggots

If you cant see it yet, I don't know if there is hope for you.

>>382388475
It sold less than half of Mass effect 3, that's enough reason for EA to kill the series.

>>382394535
I never understood the 600 years in the future part.

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>>382394557
It's not either or, but diversity hiring requirements definitely have effected the quality of the product, minor or major.

>>382390402
Welcome to white hate in general.

>>382394705
That's just to be sure absolutely anyone in the old series was dead, dead, DEAD.

Except for Liara, who would be a Matriarch MILF.

>>382394365
Whilst unethical they are only legally obligated to deliver on whatever was promised as part of the pass. And even then maybe not if a disclaimer was put in about later changes.

We are pretty sure Gearbox only delivered on its season pass because they announced what would be in it ahead of time.

EA may just have the money to refund if challenged legally.

Hard for me to feel sorry for anyone that gave EA money though given their track record.

>>382394705

ME3 fucked up the universe so much they had to destroy all ties to the previous games.

>>382394749
but I thought they were going to find a new planet for humans. Wouldn't all the humans be dead at this point?

>>382390380
Do you have any idea how iterative art, design, writing, movies and espcially vidya is? Unless you know exactly where you want to go and you exactly know how to get there(see EA sports games and CoD) everything, except for the basic premise, is up in the air and subject to change until the game is content locked in the beta phase. They constantly scrapped and redesigned MEA for the first 3ish years of its 5 year development time and the game that was released was essentially made in the last 18 months which left them no time to actually iterate on the writing, characters, etc because they couldn't make up their mind for over 3 years where they wanted to take the series. Also Frostbite is a terrible toolset for RPGs that had to be excessively redesigned and expanded to perform even the most basic functions.

>>382388079
Hey /v/ remember when the pr team here decided to capitalize on ryders autism as a last ditch effort to sell this pos

>>382388979
KROGAN COCK
SO GOOD

>>382388079
Bioware is incompetent and on top of that they sacrificed Mass Effect to work on Anthem.

Anthem is lies, don't believe they're going to make that a good game.

>>382394557
>all those /pol/lacks crying about SJWs, not realizing that it's jewish greed that really destroyed MEA

You lost your way, guys...

>>382393872
40 million development budget then another 40 million for marketing.

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post yfw
>Bioware will die soon

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I remember when I was a wee little shit buying Mass Effect. It was one of those games you just had to experience on release. Great game, exceptional even, the sort of universe you would spend hours upon hours discussing on forums or messageboards. You remember doing that, do you?

All those hours. All that energy, and it came to this. It feels weird having lived to see the rise, glory and fall of a game company, but that's what we got with Bioware.

It hurts.

>>382394863
The time it took to get the humans on the ship from point A to point B took 600 years
What are you confused about?

>>382395029
muh pol jeez summer cant end faster

>>382395029

>lost
>implying it was ever found
they're so dumb JIDF tricked them into voting for trump

As a Canadian what went wrong was Canadians. Our leaders are pathetic sissies, our media and education system lies to us and gleefully pushes their left wing biases. This country is fucked, please annex us.

>>382394130
Though I guess you could argue that Sebastian was planned from the start but he was cut for the sake of selling as DLC.

>>382394863
There's 10,000 in cryosleep in the human colony Ship in Andromeda, the humans in Milky Way Galaxy don't matter.

>hire a bunch of people that openly hate whites
>make all your women so fucking ugly a worm alien is more attractive
>make all the males 1:1 10/10 handsome-tier
>fill the game with feminist trash
>release it
>wow nobody bought our awful game GoW clone from hell "in space edition" :(

>>382394863
Cryo sleep.

>>382395492
I have no idea of the timing of all the DLCs so possible

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>>382394535
Wasn't even a full reboot. They tried to have it both ways and fucked it up completely. Should just go back to ME-First contact timeline and reset the continuity w/ no reaper invasion bullshit. Just let the game be about humans making/breaking alliances with the other MW aliens. Spacing/Pirating/Slaving.

>>382395565
To be fair, Cora had an incredible ass.

>>382390979
Underrated

>>382388979
SO GOOD

>>382394329
This, it reeks of damage control

>>382388079
They moved from Unreal Engine to Frostbite and then gave it to an inapt team of noobies.

Mix that with a toxic work environment that sees people coming and going at a good rate, you get this shit.

I didn't buy this shit because it's obviously cancer but why the fuck didn't they call it ME4? Not making it a mainline game is just asking people not to buy it.

fuck reddit and fuck you
this whole thread is people saying things and other people supporting them and circlejerking them and that writing style does not fit on 4chan and sticks out like a sore thumb

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>mfw they tried to make Andromeda procedurally generated for 3 years
Imagine how shit it would have been if they had carried through

>best trilogy
>only good game was 1
they appealed to casuals like you OP

>>382396351
>but why the fuck didn't they call it ME4?

I don't think you realize how toxic the Mass Effect name had become at that point. Calling this a sequel to Mass Effect 3 is like saying you made Dragon Age 3.

>>382396438
What's the rule of thumb? If the only good movie in a franchise is the first one, than it's probably a shit franchise?

>>382396351
It's supposed to be a fresh start in a new galaxy with a grand total of a whopping 2 new aliens.

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>>382395097
Nothing would make me happier but I doubt it will happen anytime soon

>>382396423
It would have actual replayability if it had procedural generated planets to fuck around on with your rover.

But yeah I'm glad they got rid of that, would have been a huge clusterfuck.

>>382396534
It could be a mediocre franchise but it certainly doesn't qualify as one of the best with one good entry.

Only thing i liked about the first game was planet roving and for some reason they took that out and focused on the awful third person shooting. Like the second game was just endless hallways. Then in the third game they thought it was so good they made a multilplayer out of it

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> at most 3 good games
Is there a dev more overrated than bioware?

>>382392625
> friends who like this shit game keep trying to convince me to buy this game cause its on sale
Not even worth ten bucks

>>382390527
>>382390380
I watched a video that I can't be assed to find, but it showed that it wasn't really "this looks good" but more that the development process was the biggest clusterfuck of our age
>frostbite supposedly can't do rpg mechanics, had to hard code them in
>3 of the 5 year development process was trying to get procedural generation to work
>people left and just weren't replaced
>all the planets we did get were put together in about 18 months
>couldn't decide between 2 programs to do the character modeling in so by the time they did pick a lot of work went straight into the garbage
>end up outsourcing shit to teams across the globe and then trying to coordinate all these teams
>feuds between teams as team anthem was saying it looked bad and team andromeda thought the other team was poaching their ideas for anthem

>>382390964

But robots are excellent at providing physical labor without also being warmongering scientist.

>>382396593
If anthem fails, I could see EA pulling the trigger

>>382396894
Bethesda? But at least their games are workable after other people finish their projects for them.

>>382397116
Anthem will fail. Even if the game itself is good (I have low hopes) the Bioware name has been poison for years.

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>>382392609
The fact that No Mans Sky bombed and fans hated it probably changed their minds for them. The product lead also quit once his vision of the game wasn't about to pan out.

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>>382390545
>hire a bunch of people not based upon experience and ability but upon social and ethnic backgrounds

Yep, look at all the nonwhites they hired!

>>382396894
Obsidian.
Bethesda.

>>382397440
What was the biggest bomb in gaming history?

>Spore
>No Man's Sky
>Dragon Age 2
>Mass Effect 3
>Andromeda

>>382397717
> when one of your friends pretends to be gay to increase his chances of getting hired

>>382388079
Find out in Mass Effect Andromeda 2: The Search for More Money!

>>382397754
ME3 sold very well, it hardly bombed.
DA2 was literally made in like 9 months. I doubt it cost a lot of money to make. Also it sold very well at launch.
No Man's Sky also looks like it was made on the cheap, but pushed off on fans as a triple A title.
Not sure about Spore. Recall the hype, then the game just died right after launch.

>>382397754
ET

>>382388079

Is ME:A better than ME3? This is coming from somebody who loved ME1 and 2 and played them five or six times before ME3 came out, but ME3 pissed me off so much that I haven't touched the series since its release.

>>382398089
No it's not. Maybe the gameplay in Andromeda has the edge, but the story and characters are all dumpster tier

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>>382397956

>>382398089
The games have very little in common with each other.

>>382398089
Honestly, gameplay-wise it's way better since it brought back all the RPG mechanics from 1. Story and character-wise, absolutely not.

>>382398089
Gameplay is better.
Writing.
Animations.
Squad.
Music.
Are all worst. The combat is pretty much the only decent thing about Andromeda.

>>382398175
>>382398205
>>382398226
>>382398332


Well the plot is why ME3 pissed me off so much, so I guess I'll continue never getting ME:A. Thanks for replies

>the post was a hoax
>they were right anyway
Kek nice damage control. How the fuck could the post be a hoax if it was right?

>>382398089
Do you like Dragon Age: Inquisition™?
Do you want to play Inquisition in space?
Then Mass Effect: Andromeda™ is the game for you!

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>>382388475
Dead Space 3 was more of a financial success and only had 1 DLC. Then they put a bullet in that franchise.

>No announcement of DLC at E3
>Already 50% off on some digital market websites
>Bioware Montreal gets a huge staff cut
>Bioware's response to the hoax facebook post didn't confirm any plans to make DLC
>Sold less than half the units of its predecessor
>More profitable franchises and studios have been killed by EA for less

The series is dead and if Anthem sells the same, then EA will put it down like other studio's.

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>>382398332
>Music

The game's soundtrack is nonexistent, I loved the comfy ME music and they absolutely FUCKED it up.

>>382398445

I played the first few hours of whatever the first Dragon Age was, got bored, and quit.

>>382388159
Bioware Montreal is nothing more than a support team now, no longer a full dev team. ME:A did that bad for them.
Bioware Edmonton is working on Anthem and will likely still get to be a dev team, unless Anthem really shits the bed.

>>382397010
>frostbite

Wait what? ME: A ran on frostbite? Why does it look so fucking shirty then?

>>382398676
ME has some great tracks throughout the series. No clue why Andromeda had next to no music in it? Just another stupid move done in a game full of dumb moves.

>>382390380

From what I heard it was some brand new B-team who had very little experience working on this one while their best teams (some of who were actually familiar with the series) were busy with other projects.

Not that it would have been any good either way, it's just worse this time.

>>382399426
The planet's and space actually do look great. The characters are the ones that look like shit. The jungle planet Voled looks amazing.

>>382399548
The Edmonton team is Bioware's lead team and the team that made the original trilogy. They were put on the new game Anthem. Montreal who did the dlc for ME3(they never made a game before) were then given Andromeda. Odd that EA would put their best team on a new IP and not on Bioware's best selling franchise.

>>382399794
They may have been banking on the Mass Effect name alone being enough to get sales.

>>382399548
The retards in charge of the game couldn't figure out what to do with the series, even though they had 5 years of development apparently most of the work was done the past 2 years.

The B-team had 1 job and they fucked up, now they won't be given another chance.

>>382389495
Who is this semen demon?

>>382399794
You wouldn't put your A-team on your new IP to make sure it blows out everyone's asshole?

>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong
Dumbass, where have you fucking been?

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>>382388079
>Mass Effect's desiccated corpse is finally put to rest
>Bioware's corpse will soon follow if their new Destiny ripoff flops

Please, Allah. Grant me your favour.

>>382399948
she'd cut you dick off for saying that

have A-team work on Anthem and leave a main title franchise to D-listers.

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Guys. For real thought.

When is the next shit fest coming ?
This me:a bullshit made millions of players aware of the fact that their oppinion matters and will sway potential buyers of garbage games.

This was the first step towards better games that don't feel like designed reward loops for rats in cages.

We NEED more of this.

>>382400876
>we need more shitty games
Neck yourself.

>>382394330
I didn't buy ME:A because of its SJW agenda pushing, the fact that it was shit only made my previous decision easier.
You can kick and scream all you want, but the fact is they pandered to people who complain about games, by using developers who don't care about games as much as they do pushing their own political agendas.

>>382400208
Hot. I like them a little feisty.
Name?

>>382393789
>make game developers wake up from SJW hell

I can't see that happening unless there was a very loud and vocal "fuck off" from fans. Most western developers/producers think we're all stupid fanboys who will buy the game regardless of giant changes that ruin a series to cater to what they think will be people that will just be added to the fold. They will sink entire studios and place all the blame on directors for somehow not doing it right.

That is what's happening to ME:A. Just cut the team loose and drop the series, it's their fault, not their retarded thoughts on what would sell.

>>382401316
I bought ME:A and enjoyed it, but the sjw bullshit destroyed so much fun.

As good as every human was shit. I will never buy a sjw game again. I thought that MAYBE sjw bullshit wasn't so bad... I was even worse than I could have imagined.

I LOVE the setting of Mass Effect, but I can't replay the game. If I see one more time those sjw cuck and all of those KANGZ I have to vomit. Remember captain Anderson in Mass Effect 1? He was a great person with a great personality and you were proud every time you met him. Liam on the other hand in ME:A was a KANGZ. Who the fuck let this retard on my fucking ship? Also every "whitish" (ME:A has no white skin color) looking human looks like an cosmetic retard.

SJW are the terrorist of western culture and ME:A let me remember that stay away from sjw. Sjw are so retarded that they think gays ans Muslims can exist together... Those people can't be helped.

>>382395097
It's been dead while anon, everyone from the old days is gone.

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>>382388475
the sequel was canned. EA finally discovered the lower-limit on farmed-out-to-bulgaria shovelware that even fucking Bioware fans won't buy.

>>382402227
>I can't see that happening unless there was a very loud and vocal "fuck off" from fans.

every soc-jus comic book is failing, every soc-jus news outlet (even mtv and espn, both of whom had to lay of tons of staff) are struggling, etc.

it turns out that tumblrinas who whine about "problematic" elements of other people's hobbies don't magically flock to those hobbies when moronic companies spurn their core customers to chase the market that whines the most on twitter

>>382388079
How the fuck was the facebook post a hoax if it was correct? Has journalism really sunk this low?

>>382403442
Destiny 2 will make sure Anthem bombs hard and send it straight to oblivion.
Soon, the walking corpse will finally fall apart for good.

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Guys.

Guys.

Do you remember?

Do you remember that glorious period of time?

Mass Effect. Dragon Age: Origins. KotOR still fresh in everyone's minds.

It was glorious. I mean, /v/ still hated all of them, I fuckin' remember, but the games were fucking good.

DA:O was this unreal sleeper hit that blew everyone's expectations away. Mass Effect was succesful in creating what is still today one of my favourite space opera settings.

Bioware was just knocking them out of the park. I mean, I guess Origins came out after Mass Effect 2, but ME2 felt like a decent game with some shortcomings that no one asked for, and was the only bad thing in a long time.

Then it all went to shit, /v/. DA2. The first unapologetically shitty game that I feel Bioware ever made. But it was too late, they had fanboys. They could buy reviews. It was all gone.

Bioware stopped giving a shit. Oh sure, ME3, last mission and ending aside, I felt was pretty decent. Tonnes of missed opportunities, but pretty decent.

But you could see the Andromeda in that game, looking back. You could fucking see it, /v/.

What the fuck happened... Why do good devs stop caring?

People blame the SJW agenda pushing for the game's failure, but in my experience consuming various forms of media, SJW agenda pushing is usually a panic move by devs who know they have a looming dumpster fire on their hands and need to generate hype and buzz that will get people talking about their product while simultaneously distracting from its huge flaws.

It's sort of like how octopi squirt out clouds of ink when they know shit's about to go south.

>>382404637
Not if all the apprehension surrounding Destiny 2 is anything to go by. They have a year to get their shit together before Anthem arrives.

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>>382388079
>yfw people bought season passes for this game

>>382395145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUKiOcV1SSc

>>382402310

Anderson was too black for me.

>>382406408
No, DAO came before ME2, you can really see when all started to go wrong.

>>382407832
It's like forensically dissecting a car wreck.

>>382407330
mea never had a season pass

>>382406408
>/v/ still hated all of them
I remember those days. They were all "dating sims" and you couldn't have a single good conversation about them. God I hate /v/.

>>382402310
Honestly, the sheer amount of shoehorned in Asians in MEA is irritating.

I'm an SEAfag myself, I don't need to see tons of Asians in a Western game, I live with them.

The best was the Indian guy though in one of the early sidequests.

>See clearly Indian guy in the space station
>Think "Hey, what's up, Pajeet?"
>THE GUY'S NAME IS PAJIT

>>382388079
It was one of the best bilogies, the third game was nuclear shit.

The sad thing is, they wont learn from their mistake and will add twice as much SJW shit in their next game instead of focusing on the GAME.

>>382408423
>>THE GUY'S NAME IS PAJIT
You basterd bitch.

>>382408876
It's far too early to say there will be any extreme pandering of the sort in Anthem.

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Bioware is dead. Bury it.

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>>382395097
>they never made Jade Empire 2 when they were a decent studio
>they'll never put all the cut content from Jade Empire back in

Fuck those faggots and I'm glad Bioware is getting fucked.

>>382396534
Matrix is exactly that and look at how those faggots turned out after Speed Racer bombed. Speed Racer was actually a fun movie with a great cast.

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>>382397717
Which one is the tranny?

>>382397717
Jews and Asians aren't white.

>>382409475
This list is partially awesome and partially hot garbage.

>>382402310
>NPCs on the Citadel
>Japanese ramen robot
>Toaster Refund Guy
>SIR ISAAC NEWTON IS THE MEANEST SONUVABITCH IN SPACE
>Friendzone Krogan
>All sorts of species trying to bang the Asari
>Based Volus always making problems and might be psionic gods
>Turian God of the Dance

>NPCs on the Nexus
>A ton of humans of different races, at most they complain about something or have to point out they are gay or some shit like the one transgender that had his/ her line removed due to complains from actual trans people
>Some Angara that won't shut up about how different things are
>Some aliens that don't really say anything interesting

What the fuck happened to be loveable NPCs?

>>382409432
This. Jade Empire > all the other bioware shit.

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>>382409863

>>382409685
That they would take such a laughable offense seriously enough to not only generate that placating, hollow, worthless corporate apology, but to also have a staffer format it in photoshop to make it tweetable and then tweet it is telling.

>>382409729
Cultural bolsheviks happened

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So is Bioware dead now? Anthem seems to be their only chance and to be honest I bet it's going to flop hard unless they pull some PR magic.

Why is /v/ so fucking retarded?
>There game failed because it appealed to Es-Jay-Doubawoos
You don't give a developer 5 years and a 6 month extension to make a quick buck off of a group. Andromeda failed because it was a terrible game that looked terrible and got terrible reviews.
>The game was bad because of diversity hires
Have you seen the Bioware montreal dev team photo? It's whiter than the driven snow. Also all their team leads were white males. Also curry thunder worked on ME2 AND ME3 as well.

>>382410218
yes
thank God

>>382410219
Considering how awful it is to work with transvestites and how hard it is to actually find tranny game makers considering how rare they are you have to actively set out to hire trannys in order to get them. see >>382409685
And we ALL know what tranny game makers are like.

>>382395690
Pretty sure he was literally a preorder bonus, so yes. Cut content

>>382410450
So scatterbrained they can't figure outwhat their penises mean to them, how could someone expect Xir to keep Xem's shit together long enough to code anything?

>>382388079
Who cares? No one here even played the game yet /v/ holds strong negative opinions against it.

>>382410668
>No one here even played the game yet

/v/ has tons of Bioware fans though, and the game has been heavily discounted for a while. I bought it on launch because I'm a retard that thought Bioware might still be able to pull off a good game.

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>>382409729
>that asari that talks about preferred pronouns when a unisex race wouldn't even comprehend identifying as male or female

>>382410219
>>382409697

>>382409475
>futurama and firefly only mid-high

shit list.

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>>382388079

>>382410668
>implying

>>382410668
While I'm sure some people have played it, it is amazing how few threads I've seen about it. No talk about the combat (which looks like it could be... okay-ish) or sex scenes or overall plot. No threads, not even to ridicule it.

>Put D team to work on a popular franchise.
>Gets mad when it fails.

I fucking hate EA.

>>382411220
The thing about the combat is that it's..... serviceable. It's surprisingly decent, but the open world shit makes things worse since you spend more time travelling than actually fighting when you aren't in a main story dungeon. The class stuff is neat in theory but it's ruined by only allowing 3 active skills.

>BioWare pumping out fucktons of overpriced DLC in Mass Effect
>fans begin to recognize BioWare is a complete shitshow with the release of DA2 and they've only gotten worse
>EA is now shutting down DLC and the overpriced ripoff Season Pass scams that peddle them for BioWare games because they don't sell enough to turn a profit anymore

Will Not-Mass Effect: Anthem be the final nail that puts BioWare in the ground this time? They clearly can't go back to Dragon Age and Mass Effect anymore since name recognition obviously doesn't make those 6 million sales EA expects from their developers or face shutdown, they've destroyed too much of their fanbase and any residual good will towards them they had left over from their pre-console development era.

>>382411246
To be fair EA wasn't the guys who ordered the D team to work on the game. They were just the guy handing the money and saying "fuck it up and you won't need your legs once I'm done with you."

Did Dragon Age: Inquisition ever get any DLC? I can't even remember.

>>382388475
There are no figures on ME:A's budget or sales anywhere online, anon. It's all guesswork.

>>382392148
I think Dragon Age franchise was hit far worse with lead developers leaving after Origins and DA2, some specifically saying they "don't like where the series is going" or something to that effect.

>>382411524
It did.

>>382393460
difference is whether the game is preaching to you or simply has political elements to it. subtlety was never bioware's strong point, though. it just got worse when they embraced sjw cancer.

>>382411524

Yes. The True End is even locked behind a DLC.

>>382411424
It'll end either in a sort of bittersweet way if Anthem is okay/good or in a shitstorm is the game is bad.

Bioware is done, Anthem will be the last game the company makes without EA breathing down their necks at every turns. Anything that comes after will be EA monitored and EA will have a stricter control on the quality of the games, making Bioware a shadow of what it was.

How long will Bioware exist after that?

>>382394749
>Liara and Grunt are the only two of the old crew who would live to know of the andromeda expedition

They don't deserve this

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>>382411424
Depends on what it exactly ends up being. People are saying it's Bioware's Destiny but that remains to be seen yet. I can't help but wonder what sort of new IP can modern Bioware even create, though.

>>382411686
>>382411801
I need to go finish it sometime, I ended up stopping halfway and replaying Origins.

>>382411865
I don't think EA will do away with Bioware any time soon, but they will become another EA studio in more than name if Anthem fails. EA has wanted their own in-house RPG studio for a long time and won't relinquish it any time soon.

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>>382388079
>"Will not get Single-Player DLC"

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>>382388475
The only good thing this game did was having a gay ayy lmao for my xenophilia kink.

>>382411870
>People are saying it's Bioware's Destiny
It's almost precisely that, even down to the notion of a "ten-year" commitment between publisher and developer, just like Activision and Bungie.

>>382411739
It also has to fit into the overall theme and atmosphere of the game.
If the game is about how people are ever-changing, how you're more than your body, how there shouldn't be limits for your mind, or something like that, then sure, have a transgender person in there. It fits in with the overall narrative.
Adding that trans guard (or whatever it was) in Baldur's Gate enhanced edition reeks of pandering. At no point is sexuality or gender politics relevant in that game. It's like if one of the npcs suddenly started talking about racism, healthcare or gerrymandering. It doesn't fit with what's already going on and it's not like there's any focus on it after it's been said.

>>382411951
EA doesn't need their studio to have a name.

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>>382395097
It's a somber victory if you consider what they were before.

>>382411889
I pirated it and also didn't finish it. It became so fucking dull and it was annoying to play.
It's like they wanted to mix the gameplay of DA:O and Dragon's Dogma. It was like a MMO game, but without playing with other people or getting any interesting skills.

>>382401873

Joey Salads

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>>382388079
I don't want Mass Effect to die, I just want it in competent fucking hands goddamnit.

>>382388159
EA want Anthem to be a huge success because they want that Destiny audience so expect them to put a shit load of resources into it, even if it means sacrificing other projects like Mass Effect already and Dragon Age.

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>>382388079
You know, I get a perverse satisfaction from hating this series to death, and knowing other people hate it nearly as much as I do. It feels comfy.

It's a thin line between love and hate.

>>382390123
what happened to this faggot, its important to find which game he will ruin next, hes worst than jay wilson ffs

>>382392486
Probably in late 2016 which is when it was supposed to have come out. But when you're following up weeks later on Zelda, Horizon, Nier Automata and Nioh you need to have had put in at least a bit of effort.

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someone yesterday in the "series with no bad games" thread someone accused me of not even playing andromeda and that 3 was worse

at least 3's combat wasn't insultingly bad

>>382412218
Bioware's name still carries weight despite not really being that relevant anymore, sadly. They're only still on the map because they have EA's money backing them up. Core RPG audience has found enough other titles to play.

>>382392810
>>382394994
>>382396074
What is this meme

In this thread: People who know nothing about game development.

>>382414149
>newfags in this thread

>>382390380
Basically they wasted three to four years designing a ton of No Man's Sky stuff that got cut from the game because they couldn't make the gameplay loop fun. Also, they were required to use Frostbite which had plenty of great vehicle and shooter physics but absolutely no scripting engine for cutscenes, inventory, or conversations.
All the problems in the game were because they crunched through things in 18 months and every time they fixed a bug five other bugs popped up.

Essentially they tried to make Star Citizen without the indefinite schedule, unlimited money, or magic German engine wizards.

>>382411064

Neat. What PS2 game is this?

ABSOLUTE TRUTH

Garrus Smut > Mass Effect 2 > Mass Effect 3 > Mass Effect > Andromeda > Jack

3 is the best game in the series because of how much SFM porn it provided. I havent masturbated to anything other ME porn in the last 2 years.

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>>382414559

>>382398538
Just wait for the inevitable announcement that bioware has been "rebranded"

>>382392486
They were rating it compared to the shit that came out in 2016. When your comparison points are Watch Dogs, Fallout 4, and The Division it's easy to rate it an 85 on a normalfag scale.
When it finally came out though, it was following Zelda:BotW, Nier:Automata, Horizon(Which I disliked but whatever), and Nioh. People no longer had to put up with AAA mediocrity.

>>382393040

Its okay anon, they cant hurt shepard anymore....

>>382406408
Dude, they got bought by EA and the original founders of the studio quit. This pattern can be seen the last few dozen times EA gutted a studio they "acquired".

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>>382414559
>Andromeda is better then jack

>>382413927
/gif/ meme.
Whenever there is a SFM thread the first post is always that studio FOW animation of krogan cock.

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>>382414994
>Jackfag too delusional to realize he wants to bang the worst character from every game ever

>>382395005
Anthem is basically the Rifts tabletop RPG missing all the crazy 90s bullshit that made Rifts cool.

>>382411064
>nibbles at cup

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>>382415262
>implying I don't agree with the jack hate and find the bitch to be semi out of place in a spec ops setting
Then again all the bitches have to be kicked out in that case

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I really tried liking andromeda, the gameplay was at least decent on higher difficulties, it was more or less the same mass effect gameplay that I loved, vanguard and biotic charge never gets old.

But right away I noticed some annoying things, cora whining about her biotic implants was the most offensive at first, back in me1 you had people killing themselves because of the biotic implant acting up and leaving them in extreme pain, Cora bitching about how her life was hard because her biotic power was too "strong" made no sense, this is not x-men baby, you are not a super mutant, neither are you the second coming of Jack, did those guys even play the old trilogy before working on andromeda?

Honestly I could list a lot of bad things, but the angara were the worst of all, I would play good money for a dlc where you command the Reaper fleet and go on to harvest angara and keet scum.

I admit that I am a great Reaper fanboy, even if bioware made the reapers go full retard, that was not enough to make me stop liking their design, shame that now those awesome designs will never be used again.

>decide to opt out of the season pass because they know retards will buy all the Mass Effect DLC full price
>the game bombs
>decide not to do DLC

EA sure dodged a bullet there

>>382409729
>>Friendzone Krogan
You mean the Krogan that tried to romance the Asari?

>>382413184
Welcome to the Command & Conquer fan club.

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>>382415624
>tfw you've become a madman, seeing jackfags in random anons
>tfw you're the fag all along
>tfw you don't care because at least you didn't romance jack

>>382397754
Duke Nukem Forever

>>382400876
Next shit fest is Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite but it's not quite big enough to make an impact.
The only Marvel characters in the game are all from the movies owned by Disney. There's not a single X-men character in a successor to X-men vs. Street Fighter.
When pressed about the omission, Capcom's shill said that players only liked Magneto because he had an 8 way airdash and they'd be perfectly fine with Nova or Captain Marvel.
On the Capcom side, all the characters are recycled from previous Vs. titles and the models look weird and cartoonish.

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>>382415827
>tfw you are still a degenerate piece of shit because you fucked vetra
and liked it
I should be shot I know

>>382415841
>>382397754
Command & Conquer 4

Kara no Shoujo while on medication that included depression as a side effect.
Literally made me want to kill myself and I cried all the time.

>>382388159
The post is basically just reiterating Bioware's extremely obvious priorities, which had previously been confirmed by anonymous Montreal sources.

>>382400945
we don't need more shitty games, we need more instances where the collective realizes how trash the games that they pay $60 every year for, are.

>>382409475
>Babylon 5 not in God Tier
>Exo-squad in Low instead of High-Mid.
>Galaxy Rangers and Vandread missing from Mid.
>Outlaw Star in Mid instead of Low-mid
>Macross Frontier missing from High-mid.

>>382388079
>one of the bese trilogies
>Best selling

Fixed that for you. Sales do not equal quality.

There was literally nothing good about the single player for ME3.

>>382388159
I sincerely hope nobody is actually excited for Destiny By Bioware

>>382411659

>"don't like where the series is going"

The original Bioware founders and devs and lead design for Dragon Age left during the middle of DA2 development for those reasons. It was after origins but during DA2, so really not a big surprise given how DA2 turned out.

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>>382415921
>tfw you fucked Vetra
>tfw you fucked Vetra while imagining it was Garrus

>>382415626
>I really tried liking andromeda
Why did you try at all?

Either you bought it before knowing what it was or you didn't listen to the reviews or the insane anti-hype that was perpetuated here. Either way, they got your money. And not only that, they got your money and didn't learn any fucking lessons about how they fucked up. They took their property and shuttered it and you let them get away with their tail between their legs with your money.

Will you let them get away? Will you take the time to acknowledge that you fucked up by paying money for garbage and find out exactly who was responsible for this abomination and make sure they can't fuck up another franchise again?

I'm sorry, I don't know why I'm going on this rant. I am just so fucking tired of seeing people take all the effort made to design this world only to treat it with zero fucking respect and then only to have people reward them for it by giving them millions of dollars for it.

>Mass Effect fizzled out
>Dragon Age will get one more game and probably also fizzle out

oh well

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>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong that one of the bese trilogies in the previous generation

>Mass effect
>good at anything but squandering the potential of the mediocre first game

>>382415626
You now realize the angara are nothing but protheans but in Andromeda. Same accent, vaguely same head and over all same style of life where everyone contributes to the higher good.

Cora was just that, them making a discount Jack and the only issue she had was persecution for being different, odd how that is what she complains about, reminds you of a real life group doesn't it?

Liam was another shit human companion every since Kaiden and Ashley stopped being the go to choices for that.

Vetra was a nock off Garus in that she didn't fit the Turian life style.

Drack was actually decent, no replacement for Wrex, but at least he had a character that was different.

The Kett are not!reapers with the whole Ascension process.

This team was a group of fanboys of the original trilogy and since they were fucking retarded and wasted three years trying to make a random world generator somehow still fit a story in until someone from the original trilogy came in and told them they were fucking retarded they probably would have kept trying to make it work untill the one year mark or less.

They had to shit out a game due to their own incompetence and not realizing after the first year "hey we have to make a lot of shit from scratch for this engine, let's try this when we have more time."

>>382416449

Oh, but I did not actually pay for andromeda, I just pirated to see how it would go.

When I say I would pay for a reaper dlc, I was just remembering the old days of dragon age origin and the darkspawn dlc, I always hoped we would get a reaper equivalent for mass effect, but no luck.

I admit I paid money for the trilogy package when it was on a 50% cut deal years ago, but bioware never got my money for andromeda.

>>382390545
>turns out the people who actually buy vidya don't like bad games
ftfy. honestly are we still blaming ess jay dubya for everything.

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>>382388079
TUMBLING DOWN

>>382416880
SJWs do have a big effect on video games. Just look at Anita legacy and how she influences censoreship of games outside of the United States.
https://youtu.be/hGHpne4kTbc?list=LLOA72SdlX9kKH5DHw2lWUpg&t=1036

>>382416806
Oh almost forgot Peebee, they literally looked at Liara and said "make the exact opposite in personality! No one will notice!" Yet she is still an Asari, still an archeologist studying an unknown alien race long dead and takes most the game to truly open up and be more connected to the PC.

>>382417068
I really wish that cunt would just die already. And not killed by some gamergate faggot because that would just make her a martyr. Something random like a car crash and she burns to death in the wreckage.

>>382417207
Peebee was Sera 2.0 but at least you could leave Sera behind

>>382388159
just by looking at it you can tell all funding was thrown to anthem.
I read that me4 waz too ambitious before they gave it to Montreal and people started leaving made development, it was basically what beyond good and evil 2 is trying to do, a fully explorable solar system, and what Anthem is trying to do as well but smaller scale.
if you look at the combat, it's literally the same as mass effect, down to the abilities tied to shoulder buttons, this was what mass effect was supposed to be but the idea was too good to be used for an established ip, just like watchdogs had too many new mechanics to be a modern day assassin's Creed so they turned it into a new ip. They scaled down Anthem and made it it's own thing, only it's just destiny with warframes, or the multiplayer mode of me3 with explorable areas.

>>382416806
Wasn't exalt an organisation and the exaltation process a plot point in X-Com Enemy Unknown? Even though the Kett are pretty much making reaper husks anyway.

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>>382391375

You are just listing symptoms of the disease and ignoring the disease itself. The root problem is affirmative action. Bioware hires retards based on race and gender quotas.

>>382417326
me too

Kai Leng.

>>382417068
>SJWs do have a big effect on video games.
I don't care. if it's a good game it's a good game.

>Just look at Anita legacy and how she influences censoreship of games outside of the United States.
blaming censorship in foreign countries a web show that can barely crack a million views when there's not a shit ton of retards giving her clicks to express how angry they are. is fucking retarded. It's like blaming her for the fate of Rule of Rose since it was banned for even pettier sex related reasons than GTA. Sure it came out before she started but you can find some way to blame the SJWs for it.

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>>382388079
People still care about this game?
I thought after all the autism memes everyone just moved on.

>>382417473
>Bioware hires retards based on race and gender quotas.
>it's majority white men, followed by white women, then a few minorities
why do you guys refuse to know what you're talking about? isn't it scary living in a world where everyone who isn't a part of your hugbox is out to get you and is responsible for everything?

>>382417802
It feels like you're just finding petty reasons to dismiss the obvious ways video games have gotten worse after being affected by social justice and feminism. Video games have been attacked before, by religion and people who blame them for violence, but always they've been dismissed. But these kind of things do affect the industries. Comic books were affected by censoreship and right wingers once which is why they had to be subject to the Comics Code authority, basically the ESRB of comic books. This resulted in comics being completely admissive of any actual violence, anything drug related, or generally anything non kid friendly. So naturally this made comic books worse until comic books realized they could ignore them. So yes, this kind of stuff actually does effect video games. They're trying to say what can and can't be in video games and who makes them.

>Memes got a president elected
>Memes killed a multi million dollar franchise
Neat. How long until memes send a man to Mars?

>>382418287
If Shia sends his stupid ass flag to Mars I bet that's exactly what will happen.

>>382388079
>Either master Frostbite before production or use a different engine
>Either don't bother with procedurally generated shit or drop it when you can't get it working after a fucking year thus creating more time to fully commit to other aspects of production
>Drop the kett, focus on the colonization aspect and the moral dilemmas that it creates, have more than just angarans

How to make Andromeda not shit

The best part is that they fucked up Bioware's reputation.
It was supposed to be a synonym for quality and thats why they used it for ME:A despite being made by another team.
Now people won't by Anthem eyes closed!

>>382394712
I believe you on them hiring based on diversity, but are there any sources that said so that I can read?

>>382418287
Memes are going to kill us all, mark my words.

>>382388320
massively underrated post

>>382417974
Kill yourself . Go back to your echo chamber

>>382418457
lel
they'll push the romances and the player interaction with NPCs "made by Bioware", selling millions and making loads in microtransactions, ending up into a perfect storm of money combining The Old Republic after it ditched the sub and Destiny pushing a paid expansion every six months

>>382416319
>shagging Vetra
>nutting
>"Oh Ryder!"
>"Oh Garrus!"

>>382388079
>those familiar with bioware's plans told me

>>382417387
Sera, why the fuck doesn't that name bring anyone to mind?

>>382417453
No clue man, but to me they are discount Reapers in a game of discount characters from the original trilogy. They absorb the victims into their own through brainwashing and conversion through space magic machine fuckery.

>>382418189
>It feels like you're just finding petty reasons to dismiss the obvious ways video games have gotten worse after being affected by social justice and feminism.
because it holds no water. an increase in nigger characters won't make the game better or worse unless you're fucking autistic.

>Video games have been attacked before, by religion and people who blame them for violence, but always they've been dismissed
Because wanting to remove violence from games actually affects game play when 85% of video games are about killing foes. wanting a nigger or dyke skin for a 3D model changes absolutely nothing. unless you're fucking autistic.

> Comic books were affected by censoreship and right wingers once which is why they had to be subject to the Comics Code authority, basically the ESRB of comic books.
False equilivance. There's no SJW authority that games have to be run by. Any thing you perceive as "SJW" is 100% creative freedom. your lot is supposed to be all about free speech, if someone wants diversity in their game then it's up to them, not your feelings.

>So yes, this kind of stuff actually does effect video games.
No, it really doesn't. unless you're autistic

>They're trying to say what can and can't be in video games and who makes them.
There's that omnipotent "they" again. There's no coordinated ess jay dubya assault. devs are picked by the company not anita and friends. Anita has as much impact on the industry as yahtzee. people still say PC master race, try to get people to tell you what the first tropes vs women in games was about and they'll look at you like you're autistic.

>>382418808
>Sera, why the fuck doesn't that name bring anyone to mind?

le wacky chav elf

>>382418598
sorry, meant for >>382417473

>>382418874
Oh that's right I completely forgot she existed because she was that retarded of a character concept. Then again since I was a fan of the original trilogy I see the links to the more clearly. I just wanted one more ME that didn't end up so disappointing but I know now I'll never get that ;_;

>>382413402
>sacrificing Mass Effect and Dragon Age
What's left to sacrifice?

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>>382417974

Stop lying.

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>>382418831
>autistic
>ess jay dubya
Buzzwords. If all you have to rely on are buzzwords then you're are not a compelling person to argue or debate with. Of course they cannot directly censor games since video games are considered free speech and protected by American laws, however, that's also why games are wildly censored outside of America. And since there are so many gaming companies that work outside of America that is why they are so widely censored. However, social justice warriors have found a way to get around that. Instead of trying to force gaming company to remove content they instead inserted themselves into the development and publishing staff to have an active role in the development of these games. Many people make fun of those telling SJWs to stop complaining about games and make their own saying that they're getting exactly what they told them to do. However, the point was never that they should make their own games. The point was that games made basically to expose political opinions will never, and could never, actually be good. To these people making things people like is secondary. People like sexy women, but they don't want people to like sexy women so that's why sexy women are becoming less common in games. People like having freedom of choices in role playing games. However, freedom of choice is bad because you might make the wrong choice and do something hateful, so freedom of choice is removed. These two combinations is why Andromeda is so shitty even if they fixed the animations and the bugs. At the end of the day you can't fix what is fundamentally wrong with an SJW game.

>>382388079
>what the fuck went so wrong that one of the bese trilogies in the previous generation ended up like this?
Insiders talk about incompetent management but that's just a symptom. The root cause is resources devoted to the project. EA didn't put their best team on it and the result wasn't best. Same shit Blizzard did when they pulled their A team off WoW onto Titan and WoW went to shit.

Does anyone else feel like they sabotaged it? Of fucking course it sold even worse once they confirmed it wouldn't get a sequel after like 2 months. I mean, it wasn't selling well, but the sales completely dropped at that point.

Not that I care, since Bioware deserves to rot. But why would EA expect people to care about the first part of a new trilogy when the trilogy is canceled?

>>382419652
>Does anyone else feel like they sabotaged it?
with their own incompetence
Bioware employees are pushing the "nasty EA poaching our good guys for Anthem" angle hard, but don't get fooled by it

>>382419776
I can't wait for Anthem to flop. Destiny 2 is going to bury it.

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Dragon Age Inquisition was solid good after all the updates and DLCs. Especially Trespasser was lit af.

Solid 8/10.

I guess Dragon Age is the flagship title of Bioware now, after the ME:A fiasco. Interesting.

Dragon Age lore and story was fucking vastly superior to Mass Effect anyways, I'm sort of glad.

Looking forward to DA4 desu, I'm not going to lie.

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>>382419820
There's room for both and more, the Division sold great despite all the shit Ubisoft shipped with the game

>>382388320
/thread
ME2 was underwhelming after ME1.
ME3 was a fucking joke.

>>382419836
I hated that fucking tranny they forced on you. You couldn't say anything mean to her, or tell her to fuck off.

>>382388079
Will Manveer ever work again?

>>382419836
lol no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3QK-t-4Ru4

>>382390123
But most developers are like that.
Only manchildren develop videogames.

>>382419901
Krem was a bro though

>>382395097
Good.
All what Bioware has ever done is ruin RPGs along with Bethesda.

>>382419964
She made good kindling that's for sure.

>>382419964
>krem was a bro
No, she fucking wasn't. And that doesn't excuse taking player goddamn choice out of an rpg. You can tell this was made but progressives because you aren't allowed to be mean to any kind of minority in the game and the lust demons are completely absent. Also every woman, even ones who appeared in previous titles and were very sexy, are now ugly and completely covered. I honestly can't believe people like this.

>>382419964
>Krem

How to completely ruin the qunari with just one tranny

>>382419453
>Buzzwords. If all you have to rely on are buzzwords then you're are not a compelling person to argue or debate with.
Irony.

>Of course they cannot directly censor games since video games are considered free speech and protected by American laws, however, that's also why games are wildly censored outside of America.
How is this related to SJWs and not...some kind of.....difference in values....that's always existed? NO it must be the boogeymen right!?

> And since there are so many gaming companies that work outside of America that is why they are so widely censored.
Again, different values. Are you really so ignorant that you think this is a recent thing caused by web journalists? it's been happening since 2003 in most countries.

> However, social justice warriors have found a way to get around that. Instead of trying to force gaming company to remove content they instead inserted themselves into the development and publishing staff to have an active role in the development of these games.

So let me get this straight. The SJWs are sabotaging vidya.....by making games. So few critiques on this theory.

1) anyone can make a video game, see the milkshake duck from e3
2)that's not censorship it's creative freedom. they can be as SJW with their video games as they want because it's their video games. don't like it don't buy it. doesn't mean there's a coordinated effort to hurt your feelings.

I'm not going to read any further since the crux of your argument seems to break down to

>things happening in other cultures are SJWs fault
>video games I don't like are made by a secret SJW authority who have infiltrated video games industry and are censoring the games by creating them.
>everything wrong with video games is somehow related to SJWs who are on par with the fucking CCA except not

Rather not waste my time with it. condense it and I'll continue.