$2 for one of the best RPGs ever created No excuse

thats not kotor 2

>>382385281
I already own it

suck my dick, hipster

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>>382385281
>no excuse
No more money.

>>382385281
>anon is so autistic he has been spamming the same thread about a shitty game only germans like since 2009
jesus fucking christ this is why we need euthanization programs

doesnt work on my windows 7,
fuck that game

>>382385342
>one of the
mcfucking end your life

I bought this a week ago

This is the best RPG I've played in a very long time.

Who wants to play a RPG where you don't make your character?

>>382385503
this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYGUgCaai4o&feature=youtu.be

>>382385281
Got any other recommendations? Bombshell is good and 90% off

>>382385503
People without autism
>muh self-insert

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I love this game

>>382385545
>southern American medieval farmers,
can this meme game please go to hell

>>382385545
I don't understand the problem. Are you upset about american accents? It's a fantasy world. Meaning it's made up, fiction.

Gothic 1 > Gothic 2

>>382385738
its called aesthetics you fucking dipshit
those people sound like customers in walmart

>>382385738
take your meds gothic-kun

>>382385768
Not by a fucking mile, and I love Gothic 1.

I've never been more sick of a fanbase than I am of Gothic fans on /v/ right now
Fuck you guys tired of seeing these threads

>>382385281
But the controls are just so BAD.

>>382385820
>>382385831
t. britcucks

>>382385281
>rpg
there's my excuse

>>382385917

>bitching about controls when Gothic 1 exists

Wew

>>382385738
Some of the voice acting is so ridiculous that it's funny as fuck in a good way, like the New Yorkers in Khorinis

At least it's something new other than generic britbong accent

>>382385960
I'm american dipshit

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What the fuck was this guy's problem?

>>382385281
Autistic old kraut game no thx

Is this some kind of long game trolling attempt or what? I mean even when the gothic games were released they were trash and more or less unplayable. Is your intention to get as many people as possible to waste money on this?

>>382386219
this guy has been spamming the same shit since 2009

>>382386130
hey not all german games are bad, tractor simulator is way more fun that op's sword swinger simulator

>>382385545
Why is the english voice acting so bad?

>>382386219
gr8 b8

>>382385281
Alright.
This is one of the few games I see posted around on here frequently that I don't have in my library. Is it actually good, or is it just another one of those games that's probably 30% people actually liking it an the other 70% pretending to like it because "the rest of /v/ does"?

>>382385984
Gothic 1's controls also suck balls.

>>382385476
what???????????

>>382386354
the latter unfortunately, i wanted gothic 2 to be good, it's boring and you can barely pick your own playstyle

>>382386354
It's actually great

the people saying it's bad is just the usual shitposting /v/. Most of them haven't even played it

>>382386354

You into memes my dude? Well, it's the dark souls of German RPGs.

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>>382386354
It's a hardcore old-school RPG with 0 handholding and difficult as fuck gameplay.

People complaining about it are mostly The Witcher 3 or Skyrim kiddies

>>382386452

>you can barely pick your own playstyle

You didn't even play the game, did you.

>>382386354
During summertime /v/ will call it shit
when its not summertime it's really good
take that as you will :)

>>382386601
>difficult as fuck gameplay
Yeah stunlocking everything to death is real fucking difficult my dude.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL2iAX-5CWI

I legitimately wonder if there's like one or two same guys constantly shilling gothic. The games are terrible and whenever these threads are made the posts are mostly the same and they never last till even 100 posts since no one actually wants to discuss this garbage.

I usually don't think shill, but I really wonder. Or they're just germans who obsess over gothic since it's basically the only german game besides simulator crap.

How lost would I be if I were to play it without any knowledge of the first game? Or perhaps a better question: is the first game good?

>>382385545
fucking lol they're all rednecks

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>>382385281
c-can i play it with a controller?

I'm currently playing Gothic 1, the backtracking is annoying but I love the game, can't wait to play 2. Currently I'm at the part where you have to search for the focus stones or whatever they're called

Does it run on Win7?

>>382385545
COULD YOU STOP HAMMERING

>>382386827
First game is awful, stay away. The controls and voice acting alone make the game unplayable.

>>382386729
Is that a mod? Those rain physics are insane.

>>382386827
2 is much better than 1, but 1 is still a good game.

You should play 1 first but you won't be lost if you skip it because the story in 2 is not hard to understand

>>382385597
It's not even a matter of self-inserting, it's a matter of having more variety because you can make your own character.

>>382385281
>Gothic 2
>Good

>>382386754
fucking neo /v/

I want the 15 year olds to leave

>>382386984
No its the power of 2002 germoney devs

>>382385281
oh you're right I should buy oblivion for this computer

fuck you I've seen this exact thread multiple times over multiple days

you could just play Risen trilogy instead since it was the sequel to those Gothic trilogy and made by the same devs. (I tried the demo and Risen wasn't my cup of tea, the clunky weird combat system turned me, maybe dark souls players will find it hardcore and prepare to die though.)

who makes these gothic threads twice daily for like 5 months now?

is it the same person, and why? i don't even come to v much anymore but this shit always here

Man, Gothic 2 has some insanely dedicated fans on this board. We had been having Gothic 2 praising threads every bloody day for years now.

Not that I'm complaining, still beats 90% of the regular shit that is being posted here. But I have to admit that it's a bit baffling. It's a fun game, great even, but what is up with posting about it every bloody day? It's not like the threads live particularly long or have any more substantial discussion.

>>382386827
>How lost would I be if I were to play it without any knowledge of the first game?
It's not too bad. The plot of the first game is more-or-less explained. The biggest problem would be with characters - a lot of them just carry on from the first game and the game kinda assumes that you know what is going on. Otherwise, the story in Gothic games has been always kinda garbage. Gothic is all about environments, minute-to-minute interaction and character development.

That said, there is not much of a reason not to play Gothic 1. Mechanically it's basically the same as Gothic 2 - just with less content and somewhat worse visuals. I do remember Gothic 1 having awkward as fuck controls, but I think the second game was very much the same. That said, it's been ages since I played either.

>>382387086
>neo /v/
the amount of people who like your shit game is so small, this gothic shitposting trend has never been here until semi recently, fuck off

>>382387086
Come on, just be serious. Are you paid or are you just a german obsessed with germany's one game series?

>>382386928
>>382387008
Controls are shit and the voice acting for the english version sucks, that's true. Still Gothic 1 has the better music, atmosphere and story. You can't deny that.

>>382387221
>>382387086
can you please answer this?
I'm also really curious

>>382387167
see >>382386754
Possibly a gothic employee.

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I hate /v/ now.
Before you used to be able to tell who was b8 and who was recommending a good game, now it is LOL THIS GAME IS SHILLED SO IT MUST BE GOOD, you buy it and it is shit. I have actually had better luck talking to friends or watching walkthroughs than listening to you fags.
Fuck you.

been playing through 1, it's alright

People saying it's better than morrowind though are completely fucking stupid

>>382386754
Oh fuck off, you are worse than he is. Gothic is a classic game and for good reasons. These threads are baffling in their frequency, sure, but I'll take weirdly autistic people posting repeatedly about their favorite game over jaded spiteful cunts like you every day. Damn, you are actually dumb enough to think of shills for a game well over ten years old for crying out loud. Grow the fuck up.

>>382387221
You're just a butthurt faggot

Why don't you go to the daily new vegas threads and call everybody there a shill?

Because you're just a butthurt faggot

>What? People enjoy a game that I don't enjoy? NOT ON MY WATCH!!!!!

>>382387410
>Gothic is a classic game
to who? a handful of germans on /v/? this crap is never praised except within this small group.

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>>382387410
>>382387445

found the two germans

>>382387385
2 is better than morrowind not 1
>>382387384
shit taste

>>382387384
Are you fucking stupid or something?

>>382387445
Looks like you're butthurt that New Vegas is the better game and has an actual fanbase outside of 3 Germans on /v/.

>>382387356
yep i was implying that. someone has rights and profit share and makes a new thread every 12 hours or so after his old one dies. he's probably monitoring this after posting the first 5 replies

>>382385281
jokes on you fagboi
i already bought all 3 for $4

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Nothing better than coming to /v/ and seeing a bunch of 13 year old kids shitting of the most legendary RPG in gaming history because MUH GRAPHICS

>>382385859
b&

>>382385281
what's the deal with the sudden influx of gothic-faggotry?

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>>382387643
>the most legendary RPG in gaming history
You Gothic fags are delusional

Is Forsaken Gods worth it? It looks just the same

>>382387573
Maybe I would have agreed with you before but I started playing Gothic 2 and saw how good the game is. OP is doing God's work for trying to make this game more popular because it's indeed amazing and better than most games posted on /v/

>>382385281
Good "RPG" but an actual shit game.

just saw this same thread yesterday and the day before that

>>382387643
>nevermind that slow water lagged combat

>>382387746
No, it was made by some unknown pajeets in India and not by Piranha Bytes, it's fucking shit

Is Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods Edition worth it or should I just stick to standard Gothic 3?

>>382387521
Everybody has shit taste. No matter what game people post there is always one faggot saying "shit game and shit taste".
Fuck off.

>>382387947
>Is Gothic 3: Forsaken Gods Edition worth it or should I just stick to standard Gothic 3?

Why would you even want to play 3 in the first place. It's shit and doesn't even come close to 1 and 2.

The expansion is even worse, it was made by a different studio who has never even played gothic 1 and 2

>>382385545
Are the German VAs using typical country accents, maybe?

>>382387385
>People saying it's better than morrowind though are completely fucking stupid
I guess it's a matter of preferences. Gothic had considerably more dynamic world, more robust mechanics and much more fun character development systems. It was also generally more personal and easier to get immersed in for people who struggle with abstraction. It was also frankly just a lot harder than Morrowind, which I guess appeals to some people.

I always liked Morrowind much more because to me: Good Fiction > Higher fidelity and tighter mechanics, and Gothics world, even though very nicely presented, ultimately felt generic and forgetable. But it's also worth mentioning that I did play Morrowind before the Gothic series. People who played Gothic first may have found Morrowind just too static and impersonal in comparison.

>>382387487
>to who? a handful of germans on /v/?
Pretty much to the entirety of PC userbase born prior to year 2000. So I guess that does count you out.

>>382387520
This is such a weird attempt to "argue". I guess the intention is to insult? But firstly I'm not German so that just flat out does not work, and second of all, calling someone a German does not generally insult them.

>>382387964
nice n64 graphics, faggot

I like this game

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>>382388092
>Good Fiction > Higher fidelity
You should try this thing called books

>>382386601
>old-school RPG
WRONG
gothic is completely it's own thing

Just got it since I had $2.52 gabenbux

Any bugfix mods n shit before I play?

>>382388195
Why do people who don't read always try to make this argument. It's really fucking laughable. Dude, books are my life. I make my humble living teaching classic literature. Games are just another hobby I indulge when I'm sick of reading.

Why would you even assume that people who particularly seek good narrative would not be avid readers, instead of the much, much more fucking logical opposite?

>>382388408
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=636014226

Ignore the L'hiver part

>>382388416
When the quality of writing in almost any game is still worse than your average pulp novel's it's not really a difficult assumption to make.

Even the best of the best, the likes of Legacy of Kain, are only on the level of a slightly above average pop fantasy novel.

>steam

>>382385859
why did you post this
>>382385984
I hate this "argument". Not allowed to complete about shit just because another piece of shit smells worse?

Gothic 2 the ultimate casual filter

>>382386486
so it's shit

>>382385281
Just finished Dragon's Dogma. Should I play this or witcher 3. Give it to me straight. I want the pros and cons. I want to play the best rpg ever made NOW!

>>382386673
why do you make things up?

>>382387238
How many locations like this are in Gothic 2? If there's a lot, i'd Gothic 2 a shot

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>>382386601
>this came out the same WoW was in beta
shameful

>>382388092
found the german

>>382388903
>When the quality of writing in almost any game is still worse than your average pulp novel's it's not really a difficult assumption to make.
It's actually just a completely retarded. Yes, good narratives appear in games less frequently than in books, but that does not mean that they don't appear at all: average writing and peak writing are two separate things. There has been plenty of games with remarkable narratives released. Their volumes don't get even close to the amount of good literature, but that means absolutely nothing: games are a new medium, and not exclusively narrative-focused, it's logical that the sheer amount of well told stories in them is going to be lower in absolute numbers.

That is still absolutely no reason to assume that people who appreciate good storytelling in games are not literate. That is still a completely idiotic, completely illogical conclusion.

Also:
>than your average pulp novel's
Another proof that you don't read much. Most non-classic literature is just as bad as games or mainstream Hollywood movies. Maybe it's you who should crack open a book sometime: they are not some kind of magical legendary medium of great storytelling: majority of releases are actually awful.
But just like with gaming: it's the individual good works, not the frequency with which they appear that matters.

>Even the best of the best, the likes of Legacy of Kain
Maybe you should play more games too if you think Legacy of Kain is some kind of pinacle of gaming storytelling. You are right that they are on par with average fantasy novels. But they are also FAR from being best of the best.

>>382389220
>Should I play this or witcher 3.

That depends on you

If you want hard as fuck challenging RPG with no handholding and that requires time to git gud at it then play Gothic, if you want cinematic easy game with 0 challenge that solves the quests for you then play The Witcher 3

Can I just skip Gothic 1?


SHOULD I skip Gothic 1?

>>382389424
You can, but you shouldn't

You will benefit A LOT from playing 1 first, but 2 is much better and 1 has lots of backtracking and fetch quests and the controls are outdated as fuck and weird (you hold LMB and WSAD to do stuff like talk to NPCs or pick up items) but it's still a good game worth playing

>>382387384
it's been like this the entire time you diiot

>>382389389
You do realize that you are acting out something that is considered a typical behavior of a poorly raised 9 years old child, right? Literally, this is what annoying children do.
And yeah, I know that this will be immediately followed with another "Found the german" post. I don't really care - it's not the actual post that bothers me. What does bother me is that there is actual "adult" human on the other side of the screen thinking this is a worthwhile thing to do. It's just sad. Seriously, seriously sad. You might want to reflect on what the fuck are you doing.

>>382387445
I do tell the new vegas tards to go to /vg/

>>382389418
I hate this meme. RPGs aren't challenging. It's literally the most casual genre. Candy Crush is more challenging that rpgs that literally let you retry shit over and over.

>>382389619
How big is the map there?

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>>382389579
>german shitposting

>>382389418
okay now you're just being retarded

gothic is not THAT hard and if you learn how to swing or use spells you can just stunlock everything before they can even touch you

I'll admit witcher 3s combat was shit but don't pretend gothic is anything more than an above average rpg

>>382389579
found the german

>>382389680
>RPGs aren't challenging. It's literally the most casual genre.

Then you've only played shit games like The Witcher 3 or other handholding garbage

Gothic's combat is much more harder than Dark Souls

>>382389702
I'd say if you count the expansion maybe 50-60% of Morrowind's map?

What makes it better tho is that every single part of it is hand crafted and there's unique secrets and stuff to find every few steps unlike Morrowind where majority of the map is empty

>>382389415
ha you said crack

>>382389680
>RPGs aren't challenging
you've never played a real rpg then

>>382389763
I highly doubt that. Sure if you go fight something that you aren't geared for or are over leveled for, sure. For instance I can go to BBI in dragon's dogma and spent 5 hours trying to kill a basic enemy goblin while being 1 shot. Does that mean DD is the hardest rpg ever? No. It means I wasn't supposed to go there yet. There are always other easy options to proceed and gear up in rpgs.

>>382389415
>it's actually just a completely retarded
you sound like you're a completely retarded

>>382385281
That game is on my library since 2014. Never installed.

Just think about how the legacy of this game on /v/ will end up with it being only known as "that game that gets referenced in ironic shitposting about rpgs threads and the picture by it is 3 autistic screeching germans."

>>382390053
>>382389929
>>382389720
>>382389704

Are you the same people who complained about OP making the same thread over and over again?
Because if you did that, I hope you are realizing the irony on display here now.

>>382390359
found the german crack

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>>382385281
So is is THE best RPG or one of the best? Make up your mind already gothic-kun.

>>382390359
>making fun of a german obsessing over a garbage game for patriotic reasons is the same as a german making the same thread daily for 5+ years due to patriotic reasons

The games suck. Germany sucks now. These threads suck.

>>382389415
No shit nigger, are you ignoring the point on purpose?

No one said that books are a magical medium, if that were the case we wouldn't be talking about trashy fantasy novels in the first place. No one said that the video game medium is inherently unable to produce good narratives, only that as of this day nothing of value had been created.

Therefore if you are looking for anything above average, or even the pinnacle, you are not going to find that in video games, you'll find that in books. When someone tells you to read a book instead, they aren't telling you to pick up A Princess of Mars.

Enjoying the narrative of a good game is perfectly understandable. But valuing it over gameplay? That is just insane. Because if that is how you feel, you shouldn't be satisfied with any narrative this genre has to offer at the moment, because it is clearly not the gameplay that keeps you going. You should have much higher standards than that.

>they are also FAR from being best of the best
Enlighten me.

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>>382390726
jesus you're so sad and pathetic

>>382390726
And yet you are here bitching like a sperg.

>>382390838
The absolute state of this thread is pathetic.

>play Gothic 2
>get out of the starting tower
>look behind a rock
>there's potions and scrolls there
>see a pond and and some trees
>go behind the trees
>there's a skeleton with a bow, arrows and some gold there
>look behind another rock
>more gold and scrolls there

There's so many stuff hidden everywhere it's like playing original Deus Ex but in a big open world

>>382390726
Says the person going out of his way to flood the thread with pointless, inane dull shitposting. Maybe you should actually take a look at what you are doing here.
Quick question: how often do you post in these threads. Because this is the first time I bothered to open them, but I'm still willing to bet quite a lot of money that you spend more time with this inane shitposting that does nothing for nobody than OP spends spamming these threads.

So really, are you sure you have the right to throw shit at anything or anyone? How much time do you spend posting this kind of garbage every day? How much bandwidth of this board do you waste away with posts like these?

If you are a pure garbage shitposter, you should not be complaining about bad habits of other posters. You are an unemployed nigger calling the kettle black.

>>382391276
I've posted twice in this thread. I think you are confusing me for some other anons. You sound buttblasted as fuck right now by the way.

>>382385281
that's not Divine Divinity

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>>382385281
I bought your game, OP, but only because I've already had a passing interest in it due to it being discussed here for a long time.
I'm sure I won't regret this purchase.

>>382385281
Already pirated this years ago

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>>382385281
I already got myself the full package senpai

>>382385281
>No excuse
It's on GOG

>>382391534

>>382388521

>>382390731
>No shit nigger, are you ignoring the point on purpose?
I'm not ignoring anything, I just explained how your entire fucking logic is wrong. You are still conflating AVERAGE with PEAK. Assuming that just because most of games don't have particularly amazingly good writing, it means that ALL games don't have amazingly good writing. Or more precisely narrative: because writing alone does not a good fiction make.

>No one said that the video game medium is inherently unable to produce good narratives,
Except you. One sentence later:

>Therefore if you are looking for anything above average, or even the pinnacle, you are not going to find that in video games,
Do you even fucking read what you write? Because those two statements contradict each other.
Also, you seem to not even understand what the "read a book" post implied. It implied that I don't read. Which is my biggest concern: the stupidity of the assumption that people who seek good narrative DON'T read.

>But valuing it over gameplay? That is just insane.
It's not. First of all, different people seek different kinds of thrills. That alone is ALL you need to know to realize how stupid thing you have just said. There is no inherent or principal reason why one aspect of videogames should be AUTOMATICALLY more important. Actually assuming that is insane.
Second of all: stories actually always matter more than anything else in the world. Even the gameplay is ultimately only valuable because it has certain set of essentially narrative implications for us. So it's actually pretty logical.

>Enlighten me.

There are games like Pathologic, The Void, Silent Hill 2, Cryostasis.
A little lower you'll find good genre fiction like aformentioned Morrowind, Homeworld, Bastion, Vietcong, Mafia 1, SotC, Prince of Persia SoT. Also shit like Planescape, Fallout, Her Story, Papers Please, Grim Fandango and now I'm already out of post space, so we'll cut it here.

I'd rather see people post daily threads about their favorite game and trying to make people aware of its existence than all the countless one liner shitposting threads.

What is the gameplay like? Does it play like a single player MMORPG like a lot of rpgs I got memed into getting?

>>382385281
>No excuse

I don't buy kraut shovelware so thanks but no thanks.

>ywn arrive at Jharkendar for the first time again

depressing

https://youtu.be/hL1N6mBBfKI?list=PLX9R3E_Pz-fY8gR8c0U3_pS8ccuG4oHdV

>>382391498
First of all, excuse me for not being to eager to even belive you. Second of all, you are still shitposting, jumping eagerly and immediately on an option to shitpost the exact same shit other shitposters are regularly flooding every discussion they can.
So my words still apply. You are a shitposter. You are doing nothing but flooding this board with pointless garbage. That is a fact, no matter how desperate mental gymnastics you do to avoid acknowledging it.

>>382392040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

I know it's long but trust me watch it

>>382385281
Red pill me. I have about $4 on Steam, and I don't know what else to buy.

OP here, I'm so sure people will love this game I will buy the game for the first 5 dubs after my post

>>382392226

>>382392150

>people actually wanting to play open world games

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>>382392117
>make post 150 posts into thread
>jumping eagerly and immediately
Bro, simmer down, eat some sourkraut, grab a beer. You are far too invested in whatever the fuck this is right here. Maybe those people have those opinions you rage about seeing so often for a reason. Did you ever stop and think WHY you see it so often?

You're gonna just deflect again and blame it on shitposting. And you wonder why people hate these threads.

>>382392040
It's a third person action RPG that's entirely keyboard controlled. It's not MMO-like but it has the usual structure of a cRPG. Get quest, kill/loot/talk, turn in quest. Explore the world etc.

>>382392402
Gothic 2 is the only RPG with open world done right.

You wouldn't believe how much stuff there is, secret items hidden behind every rock, tree, behind a waterfall etc. It's not an empty world like TW3 or Morrowind

>>382385281
Why is this game great?

I haven't touched it yet and I am considering playing arcanum of steamworks and magick obscura instead.

>>382385281
Looks like shit, gameplay must be shit too

>>382392526
>It's a third person action RPG that's entirely keyboard controlled.

but that's not true, you use mouse to look around, talk to people, pick up items, and it's and you hold left mouse and press WSAD to attack in different directions

>>382392559

>>382392150
watch this video, but basically the game is insanely polished and detailed, the entire open world is handcrafted and there's stuff everywhere. That's just one reason why it's good, there's much more but i can go on for hours so just watch the video

>>382392541
Stop pushing this retarded rivalry with Morrowind

>>382392541
Compare it to a game that is TW3 or Morrowind and cite examples from the other game that Gothic 2 does better.

>>382392649
I just played the first one recently and I did everything with keyboard. WASD to move and the arrow keys for all the attacking and interacting with stuff.

>>382392826
>rivarly with Morrowind

but you don't have to be a Gothic fan to know that Morrowind's world is empty as fuck faggot.

And comparing one game to another to give an example why it's good is not rivarly you faggot

>>382385597
Gothic 2 isn't an RPG then

>>382385281
>games with dark setting combined with shitty 3d graphics

I don't wanna feel like wanting to kill myself.

>>382392889
not him but i can do it for you

it's better than TW3 becaue:

>no quest markers and GPS, just your journal
>no handholding
>actual RPG
>combat is hard
>it's actually fun
I could actually list more but comparing Gothic 2 to a pile of shit that is TW3 is ridiculous so I will stop here

What it does better than Morrowind is immersion, polish, handcrafted world, and the attention to details

Compare this to dead, static, lifeless Morrowind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-lrCAH_1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgyHpqqtctg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKPBvXPg2bU

Why is this series so obscure?

>>382393035
>game sets you in a role
>thus role playing game

its not rocket science faggot

>>382392150
>I know it's long but trust me watch it
it is short compared to other videos that can be 20 minutes to 2 hours.

>>382393350
Because it had 0 advertising, no trailers etc

>>382393350
It's only really popular in Germany, Austria and parts of Eastern Europe.

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>>382393546
Any more obscure RPGs from Europe?
I'm playing some Japanese ones at the moment.

>tank controls

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>>382386110

>>382391896
>Because those two statements contradict each other.

Oh?

>No one said that the video game medium is inherently unable to
>only that AS OF THIS DAY
>Therefore ... you are not going to find that in video games

Do I really have to amend the last sentence with a "at the moment" for you to understand? I honestly didn't expect this to cause difficulties.

>It implied that I don't read
Well, yes. Although I can't read the mind of the anon who posted that, it probably did. And I still stand by my opinion that it is an obvious assumption.

Let me break this down for you, again.

Video games is a medium that relies primarily on gameplay. It is what sets it apart from other mediums capable of telling stories.
No video game AS OF YET (see, I'm trying) produced writing or a narrative that surpasses the average of a different medium.
You do not care about gameplay, the thing that sets this genre apart from said other medium.
So if it is good narrative that you want, there is another medium out there that can give you peak instead of just average.

So why the fuck are you playing video games instead? Anon's assumption of ignorance is infinitely more benign than the assumption of you deliberately picking an inferior version of the thing you specifically seek would be.

>>382390631
>aspect Raidou

>>382393274
>things nobody cares abiut

Game looks like garbage, probably plays like garbage, most definitely has garbage characters and 100% has a garbage world with 0 immersion.

>>382385281
Is there a configuration that "modernizes" the controls a bit? Many people say that once you play it long enough you get comfortable with how it plays, but I tend to jump from game to game and don't feel like relearning the controls every time.

>>382394401
too obvious, if you're going to bait you have to at least try to hide it

>>382394519
I just forgot how out of touch this place is and praises shit games over actual good ones just to be contrarian. You would 100% hate this game if it wasn't some obscure turd.

>>382385281
It's god awful. I can't play the game because it controls are so fucked up. I don't understand how a game made in 2006(?) can have this bad controls... What the fuck honestly.

I can play Ultima Underworld and Daggerfall and lot of other games without a single complaint and they are all made <1998 but this very hyped Gothic series is just something what I can't play because the controls are shit and the camera turns or doesn't turn properly.

Also when I move the character sometimes my input disappears and for example when trying to hit a wolf with sword it doesn't fucking register all inputs. Is there any patch or mods for better controls?

I would love to finish Gothic 2 but I can't unless the controls and camera are fixed somehow.

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>>382394456
They aren't hard (in Gothic 2). All you have to learn is that you change between combat mode and casual mode

In casual mode you can talk to NPCs, pick up items, press buttons, levers etc. all with just left mouse button

In combat mode - you fight obviously

Default button for combat/non-combat mode is space.

And as for fighting - during combat mode you walk normally using WSAD, S being backstep.
But if you wan't to attack, then you hold left mouse button, and then WSAD is no longer walking but instead different directions you can attack

It sounds complicated but you will literally master it after 30 seconds of swinging your weapon mid air at the beginning for practice

>>382385281
I ALREADY TORRENTED IT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP ME

>>382393867
Are you playing Baroque raw or was there a translation ever made?

>>382394682
>Also when I move the character sometimes my input disappears and for example when trying to hit a wolf with sword it doesn't fucking register all inputs.

That's how it's supposed to be. If you press A to swing left and then press D to swing right too fast or too late, your animation will stop.

You press a button at the end of each attack to go into another right away without stopping.

And as you train your sword skills your attacks become faster, more fluid and you get new moves

>>382385665

Does it look like this? or is it modded?

>>382394881
Thanks anon, I'll give it another shot and see if I enjoy it. I'm embarrassed to say that I've never played it long enough to even attempt combat because I get turned off so quickly and try and reconfig the controls but you simplified it enough for me.

>>382395004
Raw. I can read enough to get by. The aesthetic and the music is haunting. My kind of game.

>>382385342
Both kotors are shit. Bioware is shit.

No I'm not trolling.

shit's getting as pathetic as barneyfag, just eat a bullet already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH0pR6z3HAk

I don't have $2, and I don't want to install Steam.

>>382394064
>Do I really have to amend the last sentence with a "at the moment" for you to understand?
You don't have to amend anything. You are an idiot who does not understand that "there are not many games with good stories" is not the same as "there aren't any games with good stories". It's as simple as that.
Because there are already quite a few games with stories well comparable to other media's good libraries.

>And I still stand by my opinion that it is an obvious assumption.
If you actually read my posts, you would not be able to stand by that opinion. It's illogical and moronic, and there is no justification for that.

>It is what sets it apart from other mediums capable of telling stories.
That is purely technical distinction. It's a trait that we decided that was important purely for use to have a clear demarkation. Gameplay is otherwise in no way specialized or priviledged aspect of games. Just like motion is not a priviledged aspect of cinema, even thought it's what we used to use it to define it.

>No video game AS OF YET
Again, play more games, read more book. I've said this before. You are wrong. Plain and simple wrong on this statement. There are plenty of games with narrative well over the average of what other media can offer.

>You do not care about gameplay, the thing that sets this genre apart from said other medium.
I do, but there are other things I value even more. Fuck me, my favorite games of the last year were Factorio, Prey and SW2. I can assure it that I did not like either of those for their narrative.
But ultimately, narrative is just the thing that is most valuable to me in the long run. Because ultimately it will ALWAYS be the most meaningful aspect of a game. In fact the only actually meaningful aspect.

This by the way, is true of ALL media. It's how media work.

>So why the fuck are you playing video games instead?
That is an absolutely retarded question. Try again. Think this time.

gothicposter pls go
and stop shitting up literally every other rpg thread thanks

>>382395438
>I might look like a painting, but I identify as a movie

>>382385281
Did not age well AT ALL. Can't even play at 1080p

>>382395996
Are you actually, completely, utterly retarded. I mean: do you have some form of a medical condition? Because if you don't, then you have absolutely no excuse being this fucking dumb.

>>382396043
You can't play most old games at 1080p unless you spend 10 seconds googling the fix

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FUCK THESE CUNTS

Do not fucking approach them. Especially when they're in groups.

THESE ASSHOLES WILL FUCK YOU UP.

They're the niggers of Khorinis

And they don't even drop any loot

Any noteworthy mods?

>>382395046
I can live with that. But the way camera turns and the way it's glued directly into characters back is something what I don't tolerate. I'd love to love the game but the guy walks and turns like a turtle chasing a turd in waterfall. I installed a 16:9 camera fix but it doesn't seem to do shit.

>>382395438
>Because ultimately it will ALWAYS be the most meaningful aspect of a game. In fact the only actually meaningful aspect.

Riddle me this, if narrative is the only actually meaningful aspect of a game, if I modded Silent Hill 2 so that stripped any and all gameplay out of it and you were forced to play a few hours of Bad Rats between being allowed to progress the story, would you still like it?

>>382396324
DX11 is all you need

L'hiver is a good mod that improves the graphics even further and adds a bunch of new stuff but it's fucking retarded because it changes the location of one crucial NPC and doesn't tell you where, so you spend 5 hours trying to find him. And the new main menu is terrible

>>382391164
>play Gothic 2
>get out of the starting tower
>look under a bridge, there is a cave
>enter the cave
>get gang banged by rats

>>382396517
I was never bothered by that

>>382396521
No. Because it would actually destroy the narrative. It's like arguing that MUSIC is the only important part of movie and then trying to pull an argument "if I replaced all the music in Alien with My Little Pony musical numbers" as an illustration of why you are right. Gameplay has to serve the narrative. Like graphics, and music, and art direction and sound design. Yet you would not actually priviledge any of those either. Silent Hill 2 would be equally as ruined if you removed the music and replaced it with something less fitting. This argument is fucking stupid.

You do realize that narrative transcends plot or writing, right? RIGHT?

>>382385453
It ran just fine on my win7 and works fine on win10 now.

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Gothic 1 > Gothic 2

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>>382396517
This is how the game looks when I'm standing still. Shouldn't it show the whole character pretty much instead of the upper torso?

Also I play with m+kb, the horizontal sensitivity is really sensitive but when I try to look up and down it takes huge amount of mouse movement to make the camera move. I think there might be a configuration file to adjust that...?

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>>382396881

So how is Gothic 3?

>>382395162
Yeah, you just have shit taste or are a contrarian /v/irgin

>>382395063
heavily modded of course

>>382396907
You can zoom the camera out with mouse wheel

And the slow vertical camera movement isn't right, it's fast for me, so did you try checking in options?

>>382396953
ok when you don't count it as Gothic, trash when you compare it to 1 and 2

reminder magic is the only true way to enjoy Gothic

Melee consists only of stunlocking and is entirley for brainlets.

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>>382385917
>>382385984
>1 minute in xpadder

WEW
E
W

>>382389763
>Gothic's combat is much more harder than Dark Souls

I love Gothic but holy shit youre a faggot

>>382397251
Yeah. Except for the annoying fact that you have to make a melee build to get through the first half of the game so that you could fucking UNLOCK the option to even start learning magic.
This has always bugged me. You have to go melee or ranged for a good while before switching to magic and that triggers my build optimization autism.

That said, magic in Gothic 2 was insanely poorly balanced. 80% of the spells were completely worthless, remaining 20% UTTERLY broke the game, and in second half, everything basically boils down to how many of those manapool-increasing herbs (kings foil?) can you find.

I do remember one particularly funny moment where I wiped out more than two thirds of the entire Ork army (and got EIGHT levels worth of EXP in the process) by casting a single spell. Have to say, that felt bad-ass.

>>382385281
>no excuse

shti like this just simply isnt worth playing anymore. id rather play skyrim for the 30th time

on the other hand if like chrono trigger was $2 thats something you go back and play

>>382396953
>So how is Gothic 3?
I think the game was eventually saved by copious amounts of patching and modding, so nowdays it should be essentially playable. Which is a massive step in the right direction.
That said, it's still pretty awful. Huge, but awful.

>>382397197
Aren't you confusing it what that non-piranha bites developed Gothic game? Gothic 4 I think. Because that one was "OK" (well actually kinda subpar) if you did not count it as a Gothic game.

Gothic 3 was just a pure, unplayble mess.

>>382397559
>dark souls
>enemies give away their attack 5 seconds before they do it giving you a shit ton of time to react, and their attacks are slow.

>Gothic
>enemies attack fast as FUCK and you have fraction of a second to react
>also no press X to roll and dodge everything with i-frames button
>no healing during fight

Witcher 1 or this game?

>>382397724
> Gothic 4 I think. Because that one was "OK"

Gothic 4 wasn't OK, it was complete fucking garbge. Why are we even calling it Gothic? It's not even open world, it doesn't have nameless as main protag, everything that made gothic good was removed

>>382397727
im not saying Dark Souls is hard

Just that you really think Gothic is hard

Gothic 1, 2 and 2's expansion Night of the Raven and Risen 1 are worth playing.
The rest of those respective series are shite.

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>>382396743
>Gameplay has to serve the narrative. Like graphics, and music, and art direction and sound design.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. So here is a picture, and with it I rest my case. Have a nice night.

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>>382397079
Yeah, I have all the proper system packs and everything installed. I think I found some kind of widescreen fix and installed that as well.

This is how the game looks after I speak to NPC. It somehow resets the camera to what it should be. But however when I move it will slowly go back to the 'behind the back' position.

I think it might be because I have 2560x1080 screen and when I installed the game it probably did some modifications based on that resolution. I run the game in 1920x1080 desktop resolution though... I'm going to do some googling because I really would love to play the game but now it's too awkward especially if the mouse sensitivity isn't what it should be.

>>382398197
>Weight

What in the fuck is that?

What mod did you install?

Since the autism went low are these the same developers from the studio that made "superpower2" because that is a fucking good game (with mods)

>>382393368
By that logic any game where you control a character is a role playing game. That is, the term is completely useless. Nice one retard.

>>382397727
Dude, I like Gothic and dislike Dark Souls and even I can tell how much a retard you are.
Gothic is not particularly twitch based. It's EXTREMELY stat-reliant: if you aren't leveled enough, there is simply no way to defeat stronger enemies without glitching and exploting the game. It's one of it's biggest strengths and also weaknesses: the strength comes from a particularly satisfying sense of character progression, the weakness comes with poor difficulty curve (it's very spiky, the difficulty goes up when you are thrown into new area with new stronger enemies but aren't yet leveled up, once you get to appropriate level the game becomes incredibly easy for a while, until a new set of enemies is introduced.
It gives you very little direct control in a how to dodge damage. That is why enemies don't usually bother telegraphic attacks - there is not much point since you aren't particularly mobile and your defensive options are limited and cumbersome. Dark Souls relies on telegraphing because the whole game is entirely based around reflexes and pattern memorization.

>>382397808
>Gothic 4 wasn't OK, it was complete fucking garbge.
Read the rest of the sentence. And while it was not good in any respect, it was (at least on release) better than Gothic 3, which was actually virtually unplayable, while this thing at least worked.

>Why are we even calling it Gothic?
Because the publisher and the developer had fallen out, Piranha Bites decided to leave the publisher and seek a different one, but the pubisher was the one with the actual rights to the name of the franchise. So they decided to milk it one last time, gave the game to entirely different developer and told them to do a hack-job because the series was already pretty much finished anyway.

It's the same reason why nu-Prey is called Prey, or why we had an FPS called Syndicate. Simple business shady work.

>>382389295
not an argument

>>382398197
If you installed L'hiver from the world of players site or whatever reinstall the game right now

It's going to fuck up your playthrough. It's not meant for a 1st playthrough and it adds unnecessary bullshit.

Install this one instead. It's a basic version that only changes the graphics and a few other things without adding too much bad crap

http://www.moddb.com/mods/lhiver-en-edition

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>>382398046
What?
OK, I can play this game too. Here is my counter-argument, unquestionably just as powerful as yours.

>>382385281
>No excuse
I'm gay, suck on that.

>>382398309
I did this (I wrote a recipe for installing the fixes)

>1. Install "GOTHIC2: Gold Edition"
>2. Install Gothic2_fix-2.6.0.0-rev2.exe
>3. Install Gothic2_PlayerKit-2.8.exe
>4. Install G2NoTR-SystemPack-1.7.exe
>5. install hd mod
>6. install dx11 renderer + normal maps

I needed to fish these files from German and Russian forums and these should be the latest available. They are still updating these fixes, lol.

After these I installed 'gothic fullscreen fix' but I don't have the original archive anywhere, only the directory contents which has file "Gothic-fullscreen.sdb" and .bat file. I'm sure it's possible to find out just googling that .sdb file what it is.

>>382398835
>>382398949
>http://www.moddb.com/mods/lhiver-en-edition
In addition to the fix list earlier these are my files from the German site -
G2_LH_Edit_ENG_v0.9.6.vdf
G2_LH_Edit_SCRIPTS_v0.9.6.vdf

I need to double check everything and reinstall the game just to be sure.

>>382385281
Will it make you happy if I pirate the gog version? I don't buy PC games.

>>382399217
>G2_LH_Edit_ENG_v0.9.6.vdf
>G2_LH_Edit_SCRIPTS_v0.9.6.vdf

Don't get those files, they are for the full version of Lhiver which is not what you should be getting.

Just install the patches that fix the game. (systempack, rev patch 2.6 or whatever it's called, and playerkit)

Then DX11, and then just the basic version of l'hiver from moddb

>>382399294
Sure.

just got the bundle. any essential patches/updates I need to install?

>>382399494
systempack

if you want to install DX11 which you should, i think some other patch and playerkit is required.

>>382399652
Also do NOT get L'hiver unless it's the one from moddb. Only that one

>>382399652
thanks, anon.

>>382399447
Okay, thanks for the info. I was pretty confused about what I should be installing and it took a while to find all the latest files.

I managed to fix the mouse rotation issue - there are two variables in the config, one which controls the general sensitivity (altough the config file states it only goes from 0 to 1 it will actually increase sensitivity beyond that if it's changed..) and then zMouseRotation... which controls the horizontal multiplier. Because I take everything literally I was just adjusting the rotational value. Now everything works and mouse actually looks around too.

How did you find out that the L'hiver versions beyond .9 are bad? Aren't that just supposed to add hd textures and nothing else?

But anyhow I can actually start to play the game this weekend.

>Buy Gothic 2 because of all the fucking shilling that goes on here.
>The Wizard dude tells you what the goal of the game is.
>It's literally just "Defeat the evil dragons leading armies of Orcs because you are the chosen one!"

Seriously shills? This is fucking Skyrim tier of "what's the most generic high fantasy plot we can come up with? "Best RPG" my ass.

>>382399998
https://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1450267-Release-L-Hiver-Edition-ENG-1-0

Actually found out. I must have been drunk or something. They just add few items here and there and some crafting etc.

>>382399998
>How did you find out that the L'hiver versions beyond .9 are bad? Aren't that just supposed to add hd textures and nothing else?

I've read about it. I've only installed the one from moddb and it only changes the graphics, changes the map a little, adds a few new items which is ok, but I also know that there's other versions of L'hiver which add hunger, thirst, etc and change a lot of stuff on the map. The worst thing to happen for your 1st playthrough

Also I mentioned this earlier but L'hiver (even the one from moddb) changes the location of Lord Hagen in Act 3 from the city hall where he always is to the big fort in the city at the top of a hill. Just remember that because I had to spend hours looking for that fucker because in the original game he never left the city hall

>>382400005
If you'd just bother to ask, you'd know that actual story and plot aren't the game's strong point. Though you will learn that the dragons are just small part of a bigger plot later on, it's never particularly great.
Next time maybe do some basic background research rather than just buying a game because you see it's name posted a lot around this cesspool of shit.

>>382387385
they are such radically different game that comparing the two is dumber than cream corn on the cob

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>>382398197
>weight

anon no

the l'hiver mod is retarded and it adds shit that doesn't fit in Gothic

Only the graphics only version is worth installing

>>382400404
I really didn't think what I was doing. I think this is safe to install, it combines also Vurts textures into a one pack but without any rebalancing or adding new landmasses...

>http://www.moddb.com/mods/lhiver-edition-vanilla-gothic/addons/lhiver-edition-graphics-world-vurt-v091

>>382396963
Yeah anyone who disagrees is a mong right?

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>>382400798
Yeah, I'm uninstalling the game as I am writing this post. I found correct version to install.

I wasn't really reading what I was doing and I thought 'bigger version number the better'. Good to know, I don't want to fuck around with new custom shit and rebalancing, even if it's made by Slavs. Especially on first playthrough.

>>382400852
this one should be good

>>382400449

Then why the fuck should I even continue playing if the storyline is generic trash that doesn't hook me in? In Baldur's Gate I wanted to know why my character was being hunted. In Baldur's Gate 2 I wanted to know why this asshole captured and tortured me. In Morrowind I wanted to know why the Emperor set me free to go work for a crack head. In New Vegas I wanted to know why my character was shot in the head for a poker chip. In Gothic 2... there's no interesting mystery to hook me into the game's world. It's just "kill the big bad dragons becuz they evil n shieet." It's babby's first SO EPIC D&D campaign.

>>382401469
You're a faggot.

>>382401750

Maybe, but it doesn't change the fact your game has a lazy, terrible fucking story when storytelling and writing is arguably one of the most important thing about role-playing games. Stop shilling this garbage and play better RPGs.

>>382401216
I might as well suggest that you start NoTR expansion (if i remember correctly to start NoTR you do the ornament questline which eventually leads you to the mages of water) during Act 2 before you go to the valley of mines.

At least for me that's the best time to go to Jharkendar. Also if you haven't played Gothic 1 shame because at one point you return to the Valley of Mines which is where Gothic 1 took place, and you see how everything changed from Gothic 1

>>382393368
That's not what roleplaying means, faggotron. read a book, you ballymurphy nigger.

>>382401935
No, the most important thing is gameplay and that's where Gothic 2 shines

Everybody knows the main story of Gothic 2 is medicore, but it's never been about the fucking story. Everything else - the world, side quests, NPCs, secrets etc are god tier. Also don't forget this game came out in 2002 when dragons weren't so overused as they are today

and NoTR makes up for the main story

Why am I even arguing with you if you haven't even played the game? Fucking pointless

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>>382401936
Excellent. Everything's installed. The cutscene videos do not display correctly but everything else seems to be working fine. Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.

>skipped G1 because people told it's a turd

>>382401469
>Then why the fuck should I even continue playing if the storyline is generic trash that doesn't hook me in?
Well, that is a legit question. For the record, I'm the guy who just argued that story is ultimately the most valuable thing a game can offer, and that the main reason why I merely like Gothics (unlike say, Morrowind, which I do actually love) is because the story-telling aspect of it is pretty weak.

THAT SAID: First of all: you are playing the second game in the series, with an established protagonist. The question of "how did you get yourself into this situation" has been a major theme of the first game. In the second game you are already an established hero who saved the world once, and people look up to you to do it again: so this is more of an issue of you skipping over previous titles and starting in-media-res.
Second of all: while the plot is weak, both Gothic games always did a solid job with characters and factions, and actually creating a living world in general. If you continue playing, you'll find that you will get attached to the settings, even if the overarching plot is weak, just because there is a lot of interesting people inhabiting it.

Finally, Gothic is particularly popular for it's solid, focused RPG core. The sense of progression you get through character development, the sense of adventure and exploration you get as you grow stronger and can tackle on areas that were previously too hard to get into, the weight of choices in your career and skill growth: those are the things people love about the game the most.

That, the very living world, and some pretty good individual questlines that give the game a sense of presence and belivability, combined with really, really satisfying character progression: those are the biggest streghts and make the game worth playing through.

Judging the whole game based on core plot hook, which even does not cover majority of the story seems a bit rushed and silly to me.

>>382402184

>Game has a terrible main story.
>"B-but the sidequests are great though! A-also the world is comfy!"
>"T-the expansion has a good story!"

Whoa, when did I step into an Oblivion thread?

Been thinking about replaying this. I guess it is settled. I only played magic last time and I wasn't a huge fan and ended up just hitting shit with a stick anyways. Is playing a hunter type with a bow feasible or am I just gonna end up hitting shit with a stick again anyways?

>>382402320
>skipped G1 because people told it's a turd

It's FAR from being a turd. It's still a very good RPG, but it just suffers from backtracking and fetch quest

When it comes to Gothic 1 it's always so hard to explain it.... It's this awkward weird thing that is so outdated and clunky and yet so charming and unique

> The cutscene videos do not display correctly

like how?

>>382385438
>only Germans liked
Wrong.

>>382402479
I recently finished a bow playthrough

It was really enjoyable, and you can cheese enemies in lots of ways

Arrows are expensive as fuck tho so you need to know how to make good money.

And also remember that increasing your % skill in bow means higher chance of hitting the enemy at larger distances.

At 65-70 % you can snipe enemies from far away

>>382402461
You are really sounding more and more like a faggot, and that comes from someone who genuinely thinks that storytelling matters a lot in games.

Are you sure you aren't just looking for things to complain about. So far it sounds like you bought the game just to play the first ten minutes looking for something to be angry about, and then making a B-line for /v/ to whine.

Here is the difference between Gothic and Oblivion: Gothic has good core gameplay mechanics, good narrative on lower-level resolution (on the level of individual quest-lines) and actually detailed world. Oblivion did not have the luxury of any of these. Gothic is good at creating a world that feels alive and where player can really feel his journey from being a weak nobody that everybody picks on to being the legendary warrior: partially because the character progression feels meaningful and influential, partially because the characters aren't just carbon cut-outs.

It's easy to get invested in Gothic as you play it. Oblivion, on the other hand, fails to actually make the player feel involved in anything.

>>382402479
Magic is both underpowered and overpowered. Most spells suck. But then there is the spell that allows you to summon skeletons which can utterly break the game and turn you into a necromant just summoning an ARMY of the fucks and watching them kill anything in his way.
Late game you get a spell that has a long casting time, but simply kills everything in certain radius around the player. And I mean EVERYTHING except for bosses.

I had fun running around the Old Camp aggroing as many Orks as I could, then casting the spell, and just wipping them all out.

I don't remember using any other spells than these two though. Everything else felt rubbish.

>>382402461
You step into witcher 3 thread, oh wait...

>>382402842
I always hated how exploitable the bows and crossbows in Gothic are. I remember cheezing half of the first game with it. It wasn't fun, but (at the time, I was pretty young and dumb) I though all other options were just way too hard.

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Couldn't get over the horrid combat. Refunded same day as purchased.

>>382403415
git gud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQgTa7qS9wg

>>382402582
>>382402582
I fixed them by adjusting .ini file. Also with the DX11 rendered, if you press F11 or CTRL+F11 in the game you can set up individual render fx settings which are not in config files.

Do I really have to use Q and E to turn my character, because even with the sensitivity maxed out my character turns like a fucking Sloth with the mouse. Who thought this was a good idea? Please tell me I'm retarded and that I did something wrong.

>>382403556
Pass. having non functional combat is a problem of the dev not the player.

>>382402864

Gothic 2's combat feels like I'm playing a clunkier Dark Souls or Demon Souls. Not exactly winning me over in the gameplay department there, chief.

>>382403683
you're retarded and you did something wrong.

the character turns fast as fuck for me

>>382403705
it's perfectly functional, don't know what you're talking about

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>>382385281
I helped someone mod anime babes into Oblivion and he bought me a bundle of Gothic games.

I like the idea of Gothic but I wonder, can I mod anime babes into it?

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>>382403895
you're supposed to fight clunky at the beginning because your character isn't trained.

As you train the way your character swings the sword changes

Also it came out in 2002 so not sure what the fuck you would expect

>>382403589
*renderer* it's 6am and plenty of vodka has been enjoyed

>>382385281
If you rely on somebody, you're in trouble.

>>382404010
Yes you can as the Russian comrades have been modding the game heavily and are still developing mods for it. First you need to learn how to speak Russian though.

>>382404064
This video made me buy Gothic 2. I am speechless.

>>382403895
>Gothic 2's combat feels like I'm playing a clunkier Dark Souls or Demon Souls.
Seriously, do not actually know ANY RPG other than dark or demon souls? What the fuck? It feels nothing like those games. And yeah, the combat is going to fuck you in the ass and feel extremely clunky early into the game. Again, the feeling of growing from a bullied weakling to a powerful warrior is pretty essential for the series. It's an RPG, things take a good while before they start falling into place. But I'm starting to think you have never played an RPG outside of Oblivion and Dark Souls.

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>all the assblasted Witchercucks/Skyshitters ITT

Pathetic.

Gothic 2 is very similar to Ultima IX. Have YOU finished Ultima IX?

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>>382404172
Can you link me to the mod repositories or forums?

Shit, I could write a modding Gothic guide for /v/. I've never seen anything on this topic before.

>>382405292
>https://www.worldofgothic.de/gothic2/

and the main mod is from east

>http://worldofplayers.ru/threads/36390/

How aged is Gothic 2 in terms of controls/UI?

>>382405658
Forgot to write, if you scrolls down the russian thread you'll see they are using tools to extract the archives.

I found a link where you can find the tools:
>http://www.bendlins.de/nico/gothic2/

I'm sure there's English information about this as well.

>>382405658
>>382405768
Thanks man.

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>>382406025
I'm pretty sure it's relatively simple to change the player character geometry to a waifu once you know which geometry to replace. I don't know how the character is actually skinned though, it might be that it doesn't have a proper dynamic skeleton like modern games do but the animations have been baked in as vertex caches or something.

But, just guessing that you could try to replace his geometry with something from... let's say Phantasy Star Online 2 or similar for example. I'm sure you can easily find test geometry just by googling.

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>>382385281
>Gothic II
>best RPG ever created
>