Ugh.

>>382348727
>Nintenbros

>boohoo my niche trash game didn't get picked!

>>382348727
Prove it wrong

You can't

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>>382348727
>Action Game

20. Rockman 2 (Famicom) - 18pt
19. Super Mario World (Super Famicom) - 23pt
18. Muramasa (Vita/Wii) - 26pt
17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
16. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) - 30pt
15. Hoshi no Kirby: Super Deluxe (Super Famicom) - 35pt
13. Devil May Cry (PS2) - 38pt
13. Metal Gear Solid (PSX) - 38pt
12. Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) - 42pt
11. Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2) - 45pt
10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
09. Super Mario 64 (N64) - 55pt
08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.

http://www.japanesenintendo.com/post/160517430474

>muh nostalgia
>dude it's a CLASSIC
I hate shit like this. If you really have to choose a Mario game, why not choose the objectively better SMB3 or SMW?

>>382348878
SMB3 exists

>>382348727
> Not Super Mario World

>>382348812
>>382348878

>2d side scroller is an 'action game'

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>Super Mario Bros. 2 voted as the Dark Souls of Mariovania games

Oh...

>>382348878
Saints Row 2 > SMB

>>382348916
watching Game Center CX, I think "action game" is nip code for "platformer"

>>382348948
beautiful...
i shed a white tear from my pipe

>action game
>platformer gets chosen
lol

>>382348878
>>382348963
this guy brings up a good argument. also depending on thetype of action they mean, i would also humbly submit DMC 3.

>>382348996
>>382349080
platformers are dependent on reflexes--ie they are action games
retardos

>>382348948
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt

>>382348948
>10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
>08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
>06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
>05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
>04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
What awful fucking taste Japan has. None of those games are good.

>>382348948
>18. Muramasa
Based nips

>>382348948
>>382349202
This. Literally the worst thing about this game is the fucking awful action game play

I want to like Famitsu but this is awful

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>>382348948
Where the fuck is Castlevania.
I'm mad.

>>382348948
>Megaman
>DMC 1 instead of 3
>Dark Souls 3 instead of 1 or Demon's
>Kingdom Hearts anything
>Blodborne that high when Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 are better games.
>NieR at third
>SMB instead of Mario 3.

There are so many things wrong with this.

>>382349156
Pro Evolution Soccer 2017 is my favorite action game, but Chrono Trigger is a close second due to its ATB system that relies on reflexes.

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>KH1 above KH2

good taste

>>382349421
>Blodborne that high when Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 are better games
What a fucking shit taste

>>382349447
Did you learn for the first time that action game is a very broad category of games, kid? Well, now you know.

>>382349259
Anon you proly have the shitiest obscure taste in the world or are just a fucking mustard...
Go back to play memetale

>>382348948
What the fuck is Action game to japs? Games that have action? Like almost all games?

>>382349454
You mean shit taste
KH2 is in every single way better than KH1
Maybe not in terms of world interaction but whatever

>>382349619
Yeah? What's an action game to Americans? Games with guns and blood?

>>382349580
Yeah, sorry.
btw my favorite fighting game is Sleeping Dogs, which is coincidentally also my favorite third person shooter.

>>382349817
I dislike the defition of action games to begin with, it's something that came from movies and other passive media and cannot be applied correctly in the interactive medium where action is usually the only choice for mechanics to function. But if we come from that definition - yes, it is, because I honestly don't see in what way SMB, Bloodborne and MGS are similar aside from all of them being games.

>>382348948
woah that's a shitty list

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>>382349580
If every game is an action game, none is.

>>382350116
You can't think of a single game not dependent on reflexes?

Why do we worship things just because they're old as fuck? We do this with literally everything.

>platformer is not action game because you don't punch and shoot thing

>>382350203
Action games mean there's a lot of action in them. 2D side scrollers where the character walks at 2mph aren't action games.

>>382350236
Nostalgia
The old masters will always be better yadda yadda yadda

>>382348963

seemingly Japan likes SMB3 the least of the 3 based on numerous poll I've seen

>>382350337
So what is "a lot of action" to you? Explosions, bullets and blood? You seem to be mixing game genres (entirely defined by game mechanics) with the visual themes.

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>>382348727
"Action game" is a very broad term in Japan.

>>382350464
Zelda is an action game, Super Mario Bros is not.

>>382350464
Don't reply to him, he's shitposting. I bet he doesn't even consider FIFA a 3D beat 'em up despite being able to slide tackle.

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>mario
>action
wouldt it be a sidescrolling adventure or some shit?

Let's face it, the real.reason everyone here is mad isn't because of the fact that they called it an action game. It's because DMC3 or some other title you personally liked best wasn't picked

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>>382348948
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt

>>382348727
Super Mario Bros is a better game than whatever you thought should have got it

>>382350575
he likely doesnt consider NHL 17 a fighting game either lol what a faggot

>>382349202
I got curious about this one because /v/ is always posting lewds of that robot.

Looks like generic weeb shit to me. I am pretty sure one of the robots actually teleported behind someone.

>>382350203
I'm just saying that if we can justify calling "action games" to basically eveyrthing that's not turn-based or puzzle games, then the idea itself of action games serves no purpose at all.

>>382350820

It's not one of Platinum's better games. Only Nier and Drakkengard fans really like this

>>382348996
It is in Japan.

>>382350936
puzzle games are action games. they require actions to complete you cant just stand there

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>>382348948
>Bayo top 8
>Muramasa on the list at all
This might be the first list I've seen where nips don't have absolute garbage taste. I'm even willing to forgive gay shit like Kingdom Hearts.

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>>382350419
>objectively the best of the three by any discernable measure
>Japs like it the least

I will never understand what their priorities are

>>382349259
(You)

>>382349619

Passive and observation centric games are numerous there like VNs and train simulators. Mario is very reflex based by comparison.

>>382348948
20. Platformer (Run and Gun)
19. Platformer
18. Action
17. Action (Stealth)
16. Action (""Adventure"")
15. Platformer
14. Action (Hack and Slash)
13. Action (Stealth)
12. Action (RPG)
11. Action (Stealth)
10. Action (RPG)
9. Platfromer
8. Action (Hack and Slash)
7. Action (RPG)
6. Action (RPG)
5. Action (RPG)
4. Action (""Adventure"")
3. Action (RPG)
2. Action (""Adventure"")
1. Platformer

I think the Jap's use of "Action Game" isn't any worse than our use of Adventure or RPG, honestly.

>he doesnt consider Bloodborne a racing game
The game makes your heart race when you've almost beat a tough boss so its a racing game, learn your genres.

>>382349000

>that pic.

When the fuck did this crossover happen?

>>382348948
Zelda, MGS and Souls are not very popular in Japan, how strange.

>>382348948
>kirby
>zelda
>okami
>mh
And you could think they're knowledgeable about arcade games

>>382348727
drones gonna drone

>>382349259
>taste

why do people here act like video games are some sort of high art? they're fucking video games. we're all just kids in adult bodies. "shit taste" in video games isn't a thing.

>>382351447
>>382351104
>>382350816
>>382350575
I love you

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>>382351447
this desu

Isn't Japan known for their shit taste in games?

>>382350040
We keep making terrible nomenclatue for genres, this will never stop beinga thing.

Just look at MOBA. Let's ignore the tug-of-war ad the lane pushing, which is the only consistent element in the genre, and lets name them after something they are not: A game about kills. GENIUS.

>>382349567
I mean, SotFS is better than bloodborne, I don't know where your shit taste comes from.

>>382351637
>dark souls racing
>not kart souls

you had one fucking job

>>382351653
yeah, they all prefer mobile games

>>382351696
That's why ASSFAGGOTS is the better genre name.

>>382348727
>It's a "most influential=best" list

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>>382349259

SMB1 really isn't that good

>>382351653
More like thay can't handle hard ones.
There's a reason why games such as Castlevania 3 and Contra: Hard Corps japanese versions are piss easy.

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>>382349259
>specifically left out kingdom hearts

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>>382348948
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt

>>382351476
The souls series is a meme, and the Japs know it.

>mario 1 at the top
>mario 3 not even on the list

>>382348727
>famitsu
>obvious nintendo shills
what the fuck were you expecting

>>382348948
MY GOD
And /v/ thinks nips have good taste

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>>382348948
Glad to see Japan still knows which monhan is best

>Nier Automata
>Breath of the Wild
recency bias is strong

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>>382350715
>mario
>adventure game

>>382352345
how is it not adventure? Mario is clearly going on an adventure to save princess Peach

>>382348727
I'd go as far as to say it's the dark souls of action games

>>382348948
This just reads like a favorite game list, rather than a specific genre. You show anyone that isn't a retarded Jap this list and ask them what they all have in common and the response will not be "they're all action games."

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>>382348948
this is even worse than western review websites making top 10 lists holy christ

>>382352410
By that broad definition nearly every game is an adventure other than sports and fighting games. But I suspect you're just memeing.

>>382352229
I feel like people constantly slam japan for bad taste though

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>Mario is not an action game
Next you're going to tell me Gears of War isnt a strategy game, I mean you have to plan which cover to take to dont get killed

>>382349259
and what's your favorite game, faggot?

>>382349720
The magic system is miles better in the first one.
The second one has a retarded magic system, one of the worst ones I've ever seen in an RPG.

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>>382348727
I mean, SMB 1 is the Dark Souls of Mario games.
I agree, is the best.

>>382352429
>the dark souls of action games
>not crash bandicoot

>>382348948
I don't see a problem. This is a solid list of great action games.

>>382351004
It's actually one of their best games.

>>382352616
why post that pic tho

>>382348948
None of these are action games. Where's Assassin's Creed? Uncharted? Call of Duty?

>>382352528
>he doesnt consider it a simulation game
youre simulating fighting a war against the locust you fag

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>mario isn't an action game
I bet you think that Street Fighter series isn't RTS because you have to strategize your moves in real time.

>>382352678
To reveal that legendary Hollywood director Quentin Tarantino posts here.

>>382352757
You're an overrated hack.

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>>382352708
>Where's Assassin's Creed? Uncharted? Call of Duty?

take a guess

>>382352708
Those are rhythm games, Anon. Don't be stupid.

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>DMC below Bayonetta
>the only DMC is the list is the first one and not 3
what the fuck

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>>382352616
SMB1 isn't even the hardest. Try SMB2 that was only released in Japan. Is footpunkz still alive? I haven't seen anything new from them since 2014

>Best point and click game: Counter Strike 1.6

>>382353026
>Try SMB2 that was only released in Japan

Actually it got released in the US under the title "Super Mario Bros The Lost Levels"

>>382352984
Bayonetta is a better action game than DMC1. Not to say that it is better overall than DMC1, but if you had to pick one of the two to showcase to someone as a good example of an action game, you'd pick Bayonetta 9/10 times.

>>382350034
You know all those Sony games that are just QTE's and cutscenes? Those are marketed as Action games. You can be as retarded as you want, but thats still not changing that you're wrong, y'know?

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>>382348948
>18. Muramasa (Vita/Wii) - 26pt

The only game here that is actually shit.

>>382348948
Seeing Okami there is such a surprise

>>382353146
Yeah, but the first and official title is Super Mario Brothers 2 and it released first in Japan before Lost Levels came here.

>>382348959
This, it's okay to admit nostalgia and "for its time" have their limits.

>>382353026
The main guy from Footpunkz went and made CollegeSoles, which is more adult content like footjobs, etc. There's a guy in charge of Footpunkz but he might aswell have given up.

>>382353197
>are just QTE's and cutscenes
Dont be retarded, that's just the rhythm part of the games, learn your genres before posting sweetie

>>382348948
>no ninja gaiden black or 2
>dmc 1 but no 3
Damn what happened

>>382353310
Excuse me?

>>382353357
No shit, it's what I just said.

Consider that anything that isn't an RPG, sim or visual novel is an action game for the japanese

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>>382348727
BUT MARIO IS A PLATFORMER GAME AND ITS COMPLETE DIFFERENT GENRE FROM ACTION WHAT THE FUCLLLKKK

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>>382353075
made me chuckle

>>382353576
japanese genres are different anon

>>382350203
Simcity

Check mate stan

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>>382353197
>You know all those Sony games that are just QTE's and cutscenes? Those are marketed as Action games
I don't think so man

>>382352663
>Action

>>382348948
Why all of these games are Japanese?
Did the west never made an "action" game worthy of at least a top20?

>>382348959
>>382348963
Why would SMB3 be on there? It's a roguelike.

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>>382352597
(you)

>>382353484
Well fine then

>>382353428
Clearly no one understands what an action game is in Japan.

>>382353857
>SMB3
>roguelike
It's an RPG, you have an inventory menu and there's magic involved with Kamek and shit

>>382348727

Is SMB the Dark Souls of action games?

>>382349720
The action in KH2 was horrible. I beat so many fights one handed. And it wasn't even a masturbation joke, I was literally browsing the internet with one hand and hitting the attack button with the other because the combat was so brain dead.

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>>382350337
>2mph

>>382353973
The hammer bros and airships move around randomly. It's a different experience every time you play, clearly a roguelike.

>>382348948
>Metal Gear Solid V
>Devil May Cry
>Metal Gear Solid
>Metal Gear Solid 3
>Bayonetta
>Dark Souls III
>Bloodborne
>NieR:Automata
>action games

What the hell Japan

>babbies triggered that their ogrewatch isn't first
I always,ALWAYS love this shit

>>382354074
I LIKE THAT JUMP

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In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly, sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that Zelda is not an RPG. There is nothing that Shigeru "Shiggy" Miyamoto could possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel/villain ratio is at or above standards, and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.

>>382349259
>No faggot and/or generic shit.
This list is pretty good.

>>382354295
i like chex quest, i like rpg

Not a single Castlevania game.

>>382354068
That only works on easy mode you little shit. Try doing that on Critical.

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>>382354295
thanks for reminding me that barkley 2 still isn't out

>>382354213
Why would Overwatch be on that list? It's a point-and-click/RPG game

>>382348948
Most of these games are action one way or another

>20. Rockman 2 (Famicom) - 18pt
2d slow paced platformer
>19. Super Mario World (Super Famicom) - 23pt
2d fast paced platformer
>18. Muramasa (Vita/Wii) - 26pt
2d hack n slash
>17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
open world stealth
>16. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) - 30pt
dungeon crawler
>15. Hoshi no Kirby: Super Deluxe (Super Famicom) - 35pt
2d slow paced platformer
>13. Devil May Cry (PS2) - 38pt
hack n slash
>13. Metal Gear Solid (PSX) - 38pt
action stealth
>12. Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) - 42pt
action role playing game
>11. Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2) - 45pt
action stealth
>10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
hack n slash
>09. Super Mario 64 (N64) - 55pt
3d platformer
>08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
brawler
>07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
action role playing game
>06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
hack n slash
>05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
hack n slash
>04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
3d platformer
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
hack n slash
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
open world
>01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.
2d fast paced platformer

>>382354295
>vidcons
Is it fucking 1996 in here??

EEEEHH? SUUPAA MARIO BURAZASU WA HONTOU NI SUGOINA AKUSHON GEIMU DA YO

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>>382348948
lmao console fags

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>it's a let's get anal about genres and argue over semantics episode

>>382354774
>console fags when half the list is on PC

>>382354763
DAYO NE? CHOU UMAI KAMI GEEMU DESU, DEMO ORE NO OCHINCHIN WA MAJI CHISAI NA.

>>382351697
(You)

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>literally all console games or console ports
what am i chopped liver? why do nips hate pc games

>>382354295
Why did they choose a pump anyway? I never really got that.

>>382355257
>why do nips hate pc games

they are too stupid to handle PCs

>>382352675
agreed. shitters can't into evade canceling. Game also has platinum's best implementation of counters.

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The japs have the right idea. The video game industry is full of many genres and games that belong in multiple genres and that is too impractical a system. I propose we use the following genres: Active games and passive games.
I'd say that it's obvious which genre entails which sort of games but let me give you a few examples
Active games
>Fire Emblem
>Grand Theft Auto
>Street Fighter
>Final Fantasy
>Elite Beat Agents
>Monkey Island
>Gone Home
>Ghost Trick
>Endless Ocean
>Vitamin Quest
Passive games
>Phoenix Wright

>>382354209
What the fuck would you call Bayonetta and Devil May Cry if not action games?

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>>382352708
>this is the kind of titles /v/ would expect on a top "action game" list
laughing at your existences rn

>>382355538
Ludonarrative character spectacle action performer

>>382355481
Japs actually call games like Ace Attorney, Tokimeki Memorial and visual novels in general "Adventure Games".

>>382355538
hack n slash

>>382355538
Visual novels

Action is not a genre. Every single game can be considered an "action game".

>>382355797
ACfag your memes have gone too far.

>>382355538
>>382355748
I think the problem here is that some people are thinking of action as a genre and not a broader definition, which doesn't really works with video games.

>>382348996
If a movie had a guy run around and kill things by throwing fire at them, it'd be an action movie.

>>382348948
Modern "gamers"

>>382350936
It mattered more in NES games, I think japan just stuck with this distinction.

>>382355481
>Vitamin Quest
Loli Mikami fucking when?

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>>382348948
The genre for this list is questionable, but these are all undoubtedly good video games. If there was ever a time for /v/ to be pointlessly mad over nothing, this is the time to do so.

>>382348727
>simple controls
>reflex based
>easy to pick up
>difficult (hurr)
>secrets to discover
>fair amount of enemy variety
Solid choice.

>>382356230
>>fair amount of enemy variety
????

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>>382348948
>>12. Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) - 42pt
>>07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
>Not even the Final Mix versions that DRAMATICALLY improved on the original releases
>Fucking vanilla Kingdom Hearts 1 of all things that didn't even have Leaf Bracer and was a broken mess with unskippable cutscenes
Easiest way to tell that these people literally did not play them.

>>382356230
So every game that isn't turn based is an action game?

>>382351578

Underrated. I should save your post for the future.

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>>382348948
>17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
>No Revengeance

>>382350347
Someone post that old masters caveman comic, always makes me laugh

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>>382348948
This is why polling normies is a bad idea. Also,
>241 points
What the fuck does that even mean? 241 votes? That means the top 20 has only roughly 1000 votes. What a shitty poll.

>>382348916
>>382348996
>>382349080
>>382351018
>>382349009
Japan still uses the classic definition of "action game", being any game where the gameplay is primarily based on reflex or time sensitive input. In contrast to RPGs and adventure games where the games wait for player input. Hence the terms "action-adventure" and "action-RPG".

>>382352494
B-but based Japan

>>382356505
I wonder how many normies just voted for "Super Mario Bros" as a general thing and not because they were voting for the specific game by that name.

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>>382348916

>>382356496
>Revengeance
>action game
It's clearly a stealth game

>>382348727
It's not even in the top 3 mario games...jesus fuck hipster pretend nostalgia is cancer

>>382356292
Goombas, koopas, lakitu, spiny, cheep cheep, hammer bro, piranha plant, bloopers, bullet bill. Don't pretend like smb1 had no fucking enemy variety.
>>382356454
Can be. Action isn't really a well defined genre in gaming, it's more like a super genre.

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>>382348948

>no Shantae

gross

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Super Mario Bros. is the actual Citizen Kane of video games you dumb fucks

>>382355878
>has a story just like a novel
>you can see it visually
Sounds like a VN to me

>>382357116
Did shantae even come out in Japan

>>382357116
shantae wouldn't get into top 30 platformers, let alone general "action" games

serious question: which game is a non-action game?

>>382358056
SMB3, obviously

>>382350820
It´s really good actually.
/v/ used to absolutely adore it before it go "too mainstream".

>>382348878
The entire Metroid series exists. It's exponentially more action-packed of a platformer than fucking Mario.

>>382348996
>action games are only cinematic experiences where you press a button every once in a while to dodge

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>>382348948
>06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
>05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt

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>>382348948
>No Final Fantasy XV.

How will XV-Kun recover?

>>382358056
see >>382356583

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>>382348948
>No Sonic Adventure 1 or 2
Terrible list.

>Super Mario Bros 1

Nope. Like 80 better games on NES

>>382348948
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt

There should be a specific rule against very recent games on these lists. ANY game from 1-2 years ago is going to get a huge boost.

>>382348948
what the fuck

I thought this was like the best action game for NES, not for Best Action Game Ever.

>>382348959

I'd rather play SMB1 over SMW any day of the week.

>>382355827

protip action geimu is a recognized loanword and doesn't mean the same thing it means in English

>>382359354
I wouldn't go that far. It's still great for the NES.

>>382359656
its a great nintendo game but you are crazy if you think its anything other than nostaligafaggotry/hipsterism to say its the best fucking action game ever. it was not even the best action game on nintendo, that goes to contra

>>382348878
The best action game is obviously Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze.

>>382349259
Hey, Okami and Bayonetta are pretty good.

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>>382357689
Pirate's Curse did. Japs actually got a physical release of it before we did.

>>382348948
Two wasn't enough.

>not SMW
one job

*bing bing*
"WAHOO!"

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>>382348727
Deluxe has much more precise controls, SMB2LL. and repayable levels
Deluxe is better

>>382354371
All of that shit is generic as fuck though.

>>382364687
That's the version that introduced me to Mario when I was a kid. I liked the Boo races.

>>382351226
If it came earlier, it gets favored far more. Like Megaman 2 being on the list instead of the superior 9

>>382364847
what

>>382364929
There's a bonus mode where you race Boo across stages. It also included Lost Levels as well.

>>382364929
These
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzMAOhv6nu4

>>382348727

I'm only mad because SMB:3 and SMW are objectively better. It would be like saying the first megaman game is the best.

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>>382348916
Action Game in Nipland is shorthand for Platformer where there are enemies instead of puzzles or avoiding obstacles.

That's why Kamen Rider Ex-Aid's Level 1 form is called Action Gamer and not Platforming Gamer

>>382365129
>>382365031
So should I play Deluxe instead of the original Mario bros?

>>382364887
You are a man of refined taste. Limited to the original run of the classic series we can both agree that 3 is better than 2 as well, right?

>>382352567
Never answer questions like these, they're loaded questions

>>382365464
Not with those Doc Robots, sorry. 3's not a bad game outside of that, though.

>>382365406
If you can get a cart of it. I'd recommend whatever emulates better. I know some Game Boy Color games emulate badly no matter what but I don't know if Deluxe is one of them.

>>382348948
>KH1 is better than KH2
dumb Japs.

>>382365554
Am I the only who liked the Doc Robot stages? It caught me off guard as a kid.
My favorite is 6 though.

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>>382355997
That's a fucking brilliant way to put it m8.

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>>382365778
>6

I'm curious, why do you think that?

>>382348948
Where the FUCK is God Hand ???

>>382365554
You say Doc Robots, I say Mega Man 2's wily stages. Oh well.

I also have a lot of nostalgic love for Mega Man 1 even though I realize it's technically inferior to the games that came after it.

>>382348948>>382348948
>17. Metal Gear Solid V (PS4/PS3/XBO/360/PC) - 27pt
>12. Kingdom Hearts II (PS2) - 42pt
>10. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP/iOS) - 48pt
>08. Bayonetta (PS3/360/PC) - 63pt
>07. Kingdom Hearts (PS2) - 117pt
>06. Dark Souls III (PS4/XBO/PC) - 121pt
>05. Bloodborne (PS4) - 147pt
>04. Okami (Wii/PS2) - 152pt
>03. NieR:Automata (PS4/PC) - 183pt
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
>01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.

Kinda funny that everything at the very top of the list is absolute bullshit, but the lower ranking games are actually viable.

>>382348948
>not a single western game
cry more fuckers, based japs don't give a fuck about your cawadooty shit

>>382365998
Wily stages aren't too bad, aside from the fucking Buebeam Trap stage. That's the worst level in the game, easily. MM1's alright, i always start with Fire Man

>>382349000
I could never tell, is that Goemon on the right hand side cut off by the screen?

>>382365959
I just really enjoyed the music, the stages, the weapons and Rush adapters. Knight Man theme is my favorite of the entire franchise. And also good memories of years goneby. Those summer evenings trying to reach Wily.

I also dont believe in the meme that everything after 2 sucked and/or Mega Man was always bad because muh Kitamura. I like 2 but Mega Man's slight slide when you stop pressing the D-Pad, a carryover from 1, annoys the hell out of me.

>>382354074
>savestates
Fucking casual bitch ass nigga

>>382366175
I always start with Guts Man. I think part of the reason I like MM1 so much is because Guts Man and Elec Man are two of my favorite robot masters in the whole series and I've come to love them even more through their portrayals in external media.

>>382355721
japs call jrpgs a games

>>382348727
>mario
>action game
>being good

It's a boring simple game. It's not bad and fun but that's it.
Yoshi's island is like 100000000x times better.

The "older is inherently better" mentality is what holds video games as a medium back. Older games aren't better, you just think they are because of nostalgia.

>>382359241
sonic is a racing game

>>382366524
could you be any more of an obvious troll

>>382366524
If you cannot understand the genius platforming design present in SMB1 and JP SMB2 then you're not very knowledgable about this hobby.

>>382366607
That's right son. Pre-order any games or buy any good DLC today? Unlocking extra stuff through gameplay is so dated, why not just buy the missing chunk of the game and save yourself the time?

>>382366607
We're kind if going through some hard times though. Just a few years ago, all games were brown and full of bloom, and the "CGI movie with ocasional interaction" is still a big problem.

>>382366682
>>382366680
It's a fucking basic platformer. Stop sucking Nintendo dick so hard. It was new a nice when it came out but there are way more better platformers now.

>>382348948
>02. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) - 205pt
>01. Super Mario Bros. (Famicom) - 241pt.

Nintendomination as usual.

>>382348727
3 and world are so much better than smb it's not even funny. This poll was voted on by super normies.

>>382366891
Stay out of discussion about platformers from now on, you're lacking.

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>>382366891
try again tomorrow, you were already called out once yet you keep trying lmao

>>382366607

Thing is, games are barely games anymore. Devs just want to make movies where you occasionally press a button and the DLC epidemic is still out of control. Everything has some kind of hamfisted political message and it's gotten to the point that people care more about the controversy surrounding a game than the game itself.

>>382367046
>>382367036
>no arguments
>ad hominem
Stop being so stupid. Mario is fucking simple and boring.
Yoshi's island is better in every aspect.

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>>382367185
>he's still replying
Filtered, Anonymous (ID: /cxkasJk)

>>382367291
>says that while still replying
At least you admit it that you are a fucking retard. Usual nintendo nostalgia shitter.

>>382367291
>>382367373
Christ almighty, get a room you two

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>>382367448
>replying to people that have filtered you
just how fucking mad are you right now on a scale of butt to black

>>382367185
Have you ever heard of "beauty in simplicity" you moron? And I know for a fact that I've played far more platformers than you, they're my favorite genre.

>>382366607
>>382366798
>>382366825
>>382367113
Not to mention, developers back then didn't have to worry about every little concern coming from SJW organizations, there was more creative freedom and fresh ideas, and games cost less to make because you didn't have to hire 400 modelers and lighting engine programmers, so devs didn't have to half ass everything else.

>>382367643
DKC, DKC2, SMB3, and SMW. are all much better platformers.

>>382368083
You could make a case for SMB3 and SMW, though I would argue that SMW lacks direction and has quite a few lazy, wantonly designed levels in it. Still a great and enjoyable game. DKC and DKC2 are also great games and two of my favorites, but in terms of their all-around level design, they fall flat on their ass compared to the best Mario or Mega Man games.

>>382368349
Eh, Super Metroid is the best Nintendo action game anyway.

>>382367643
>bunch of better games
>BUT THEY ARE SHIT BECAUSE SIMPLE IS BETTER
What the fuck?

Yoshi's Island does everything better. EVERYTHING

>>382368593
Yoshi's Island is a failure of level design compared to its betters. It is carried by lively music and a gorgeous art style, and manages to be a great game on its thematic consistency, not its prowess as a functionally sound platformer.

>>382348727
And /v/ voted undertale as the best game of all time which is way worse.

>>382369015
>better artstyle
>music
>story
>BOSSES
>variation of levels and enemies
I'm fucking laughing at you right now, you fucking idiot.

>>382348948
Why do japs have shit taste?

>>382369337
>Better art
>Better music
>Bosses
Objective truth, Yoshi's Island a game made with better tech behind it and it could accomplish these things far better than games that came before it. However, when it comes to a platformer, the most important thing to ask is how it handles basic philosophies of level design when questioning whether or not it's shining example of the genre, and in the case of Yoshi's Island, its level-to-level design is lacking. You rant on and on about how platformers before it are simple and boring but Yoshi's Island levels are often flat, thoughtless stretches that occasionally dip down into caves or have a wall for you to blast a way with eggs with little functional drive behind them. It is a great game but a wanting platformer at its core.

>>382348948
There's not a single bad game on the list tho
People are bitching because their personal favorites are not as high as they think they should be but this is still a good list.

Miles above any western best games ever list, since they invariably list utter garbage in various spots

>>382369929
I probably don't even have 20 favorite games, but I know for a Fact BotW, NieR, and DaS3 should not be on that list, especially as high as they are, they're just new games.

Though I suppose BotW is a lot of Japs first taste of the bethesda formula.

RE4 is the best action adventure game 2bh

>>382369826
>often flat
Shut the fuck up already you autist. You say so much but nothing of value here.

EVeryone who says that SMB1 is better than Yoshis Island is a fucking nostalgia shitter

>>382370206
every "best game ever" list is plagued with new games. As far as new games go, nier, botw and dark souls 3 (even if ds3 is not as good as the others, it's not bad) are not bad games, unlike the other shit usually posted on these kind of lists.

To clarify my point is:
>all the games on the list are at least good, even if not the best ever
>the list itself is better than the usual lists posted by game sites in the west

The list is not perfect, but it's not bad enough to justify this much shit flinging.

>>382370321
>No fuck off stop discussing the games what I like is perfect and what you like is trash
Nice argument. Am I really the nostalgia shitter here?

>>382370454
It's just as bad as west lists that always have garbage like Undertale, TLoU, and Life is Strange.

NieR is literally a waifu game with the same formulaic Platinum gameplay.

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>>382348948
These are the games beloved by the most people. They aren't actually the best games just the most popular. Classic Mario isn't the best game but as a series people give respect to Mario and vote on the early platformer for defining a critical genre.

Metal gear rising is the actual best action game and bayo 2 is slightly better than 1

>>382366272

Nah it's the Dragon Quest kid that wears a turban.

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>>382366125
Call of Duty is very popular in Japan. Google it you dumb weeb.

>>382370834
>1 game
vs
>3 games that always get listed every time in every list

the west has much worse taste. And formulaic platinum gameplay is still more involved than anything in the games you listed.

>>382370915
>Any Platinum shit
>Best action game
How to easily discard an opinion

>>382371120
Platinum is literally the jap equivalent to bamham combat.

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>>382348948
>Breath of the Wild

>>382370481
>likes the older game that does everything worse
>im le nostalgia
Fuck off already, you idiot.

>>382348727
WAT

>>382348948
>breath of the wild

opinion instantly discarded

>>382371282
Even were that the case, I'm okay with that.
Platinum combat is miles better than bamham combat.

That also explains why your average Japanese action game is better than your average western action game

Just look at the fucking Spiderman PS4 gameplay. Looks like ass because it's taking ques from the Batman games.

>>382371282
Like, I get you want to shit on platinum, but I don't care about it enough to defend it. It's still just one (1) game on the list.
If you have nothing to say about any other game on the list, the list still wins compared to most other lists made by western game sites.

>>382371418
You refuse to discuss the level design of both games with me because you lack any knowledge about what makes a platformer great. I never said Yoshi's Island was a bad game, it's stellar, but if you told me that it was a timeless example of functional platforming design over a more classic Mario or Mega Man title I'd laugh at you. Rightfully so. I also notice you've been hung up on Yoshi's Island in particular, that ONE game that's a flawless gem in your eyes. It sounds like nostalgia to me, sorry anon.

>>382348948
>Muramasa
Niiiiice
I mean, I'd probably put Odin Sphere Leifthrasir there instead, but I'll take Muramasa

would any of the countless marioanons please explain what the indistinguishable horizontal stretches in mario 1 get so right that every single video game since then has empirically failed at

>>382372045
developers werent shit and old.

>>382372045
Every pitfall and enemy was intricately placed in prediction of what the player would do, and to punish steep mistakes. Every hidden power-up block or underground area was placed in such a way that it rewarded the acute awareness of the player and made the future, more punishing stretches of the levels all the more bearable to go through. It's platforming design 101 in all of its simple glory.

>>382372384
I think I remember now why I hate open world games like botw and the upcoming odyssey. The level design has gone to shit.

>>382372615
I don't hate BOTW, but I hold it to a different set of standards. What's wrong with Odyssey? I haven't seen anything of it since the original trailer, I was hoping that it would be close to 64-style level design based on what was shown.

>>382372991
must be very low standards

>>382348727
The fuck is that emulator garbage they used in the picture? The actual hardware shows that the sky in SMB1 is tinged purple

>>382373112
BOTW excelled at some things and failed at others. Excelled at a huge sense of scale and freedom, and had a certain joy of exploration, it failed at interesting and focused dungeon design. I think it's a fine mold for a better and more intricate sequel.